A new poll shows Obama widening his lead to double digits over McCain, doing well with most groups including Clinton supporters.
That news begins unity week for the once antagonistic Obama and Clinton forces, as they plan a joint appearance for New Hampshire on Friday and meet Thursday with campaign donors to coordinate fundraising. And according to ABC’s Jack Tapper,:
ABC News has learned that on a conference call with his national finance team this afternoon, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, asked his top contributors to help Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, retire her more than $10 million in outstanding vendor debt. He did not specify an amount.
The announcement came about the same time as this statement from Bill Clinton’s spokesman:
"President Clinton is obviously committed to doing whatever he can and is asked to do to ensure Senator Obama is the next president of the United States," Clinton’s spokesman Matt McKenna told Reuters in a one-sentence e-mail.
John McCain can only watch with envy. His efforts to recruit disappointed Clinton supporters do not appear to be doing well, as only 11 percent of Clinton supporters are now supporting McCain, acccording to the most recent Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll.
That poll shows Obama leading by 12 percentage points — 49% to 37% — in a head-to-head contest, and by 15 points, — 48% to 33% — in a four-way race that includes Barr and Nader. Seems the Republicans aren’t crazy about McCain:
Even among voters who say they do plan to vote for McCain, more than half say they are "not enthusiastic" about their chosen candidate; only 45% say they are enthusiastic. By contrast, 81% of Obama voters say they are enthusiastic, and almost half call themselves "very enthusiastic," a level of zeal that only 13% of McCain’s supporters display.
"McCain is not capturing the full extent of the conservative base the way President Bush did in 2000 and 2004," said Susan Pinkus, director of the Times Poll. "Among conservatives, evangelicals and voters who identify themselves as part of the religious right, he is polling less than 60%.
"Meanwhile, Obama is doing well among a broad range of voters," she said. "He’s running ahead among women, black voters and other minorities. He’s running roughly even among white voters and independents."
Among white voters, Obama and McCain are dead even at 39% each, the poll found. Earlier this year, when Obama ran behind Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) among white voters in some primary elections, analysts questioned whether the African American senator could win white voters in the general election.
But the great majority of Clinton voters have transferred their allegiance to Obama, the poll found. Only 11% of Clinton voters have defected to McCain.
Obama’s inroads with the "religious right" come despite, or perhaps because of, a spat over biblical interpretation he’s having with James Dobson. Dobson seems bent on proving his beliefs are more religiously intolerant than the rest of us. He may be right.
So the likely Democratic candidate is reaching out to the Clintons, and he’s gathering growing support from Democrats. They’re all enthusiastic, except . . . us. Sure would be nice if the candidate could stand with Senators Russ Feingold and Chris Dodd (see last night’s speech) and with his party’s most activist base on protecting the Constitution, judicial oversight and executive accountability. Then we could share some of the enthusiasm too.
Over at Hullaballoo dday reports Harry Reid saying FISA votes may not come until after the July 4 break. The Senate’s focus is the mortgage relief bill, but Marcy has more on what Reid’s delay means.
In the meantime, per Jane, you know what to do.
Obama’s offices:
Senate DC office: (202) 224-2854
Senate DC fax: (202) 228-4260
Campaign: (866) 675-2008 (choose option 6)
Christy has more Senate numbers, while Glenn (h/t selise) and Marcy have more reasons to call.
You can donate to our Blue America PAC to hold elected officials accountable for their votes on retroactive immunity here.



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Go away Bill Clinton! We don’t need your “help.” Listening yesterday to Amy Goodman’s 2000 interview with Bill was disturbing. It was election day 2000 and Bill ends berating Amy on a call where he was supposedly trying to rally the “base” to vote for Gore. Ugh.
And of course we know how much Bill “helped” Hillary this year.
good morning Scarecrow, agree with you about on this
Good morning Scarecrow
Is the delay on the FISA vote is a good sign, or just kicking the can down the road?
Listened to a lot of what Dodd said last night, but had the sinking feeling it was all a show.
I see JohnnyMac is talking about going nuclear energy,Great JM but I have one question,and that is where is the waste going to go?
Things like this FISA bill are harsh reminders that we’re far outnumbered in the political landscape. This is changing through the work of the readers and writers of places like FDL, but sadly politicians still pick their battles based more on how many votes a particular stand might cost them, rather than on principle, for the most part.
Obama isn’t that concerned about winning over every Dodd or Kucinich voter, and when you look at the cold, hard numbers from the primary results, that may be a smart move in terms of getting elected. This is especially true now that we see BigMedia coordinating their pro-McSame/anti-Obama messaging which will continue into the Fall. Obama still has a lot working against him, so he’s walking a very fine tightrope at all times.
Yes, it’s taking a bit of trust with Obama as he continues to be silent on important votes, but my confidence that he’ll be a Liberal Prez comes from voting record, his life’s work before politics, his writing over the years, his wife and Liberal friends (talking with William Ayers is a positive IMO) and his radical Liberal, atheist mother.
Either way, Blue America is where it’s at for us at this point in time anyway!
Good morning, folks.
Welcome megpiepie1.
bonkers — don’t think you’re quite into the the spirit of the event yet.
Elliot — I saw the Great and Powerful KOS on KO couple nights back, and he ordered us to be unenthusiastic. That’s about four notches cheerier than where some of us are. Don’t think he knows the half of it.
Didn’t mean to submit so soon. Hit the wrong button. LOL
I am hoping and praying that Obama will do the right thing. You all have to understand he is not the Candidate right now. I just have this ugly feeling that Clinton is in the wings and at the convention they can turn the votes against him and not nominate him. Do you realize how many Blue Dogs and other Democratic congress people are not endorsing him. In the back of my mind, I have this feeling it is futile anyway. The prez has something up is sleeve. Iran Iran Iran. and then lockdown on the American political season. NO Elections. I sincerely hope I am wrong. There is just something sleezy about what is going on right now.
What do you think the president said and did to congress? I’m fron TExas and there is a lot of people here not happy with this Prez.
Oh details…details. You Liberals are all the alike.
Obama could lose massive support for capitulating to Clintons…Obama will lose millions of bucks in ’seed money for change’ if he passes donations along to Clinton. He doesn’t need Clinton…she is the problem not the answer. Paying off the debt that Clinton used to try and kill Obama’s campaign is insane…I don’t get it.
Good mornin’ Scarecrow and all you pups. Nice, cheery post to start the day…hope it doesn’t degenerate into poo flingage.
He can’t use his campaign money to pay her debt. But he can ask his donors to help pay it off. (Not his people donors) He is already getting vilified for not doing this sooner. But, I don’t trust the Clinton’s either. They are really beyond the pale.
Obama has simply asked his supporters to give money to her campaign if they feel like it. It’s a smart move really, since it’s up to each individual if they want to help Hillary, and shows “good faith” on Obama’s part to Hillary supporters. Win-win all around really.
Yeah, the waste is a little problem, isn’t it? Back in the last 70s we at the California Energy Commission were ordered by legislature to study whether the US had a credible plan and technology to deal with the waste, because if not, they’d suspend further nuke licensing. Our study said, “not even close.” They then asked whether we could do without them. Our study said “yes.” And they did. That was then.
One of the forgotten issues wrt nukes is the cooling water demands. Thousands of acre feet. They need lots of it, so you either build nukes along the coast — not too popular in California — which is also along the corridor of coastal cities (dangerous), or you build them in the inland valley — farm lands that use fresh water from the Sierras, and where they compete for water with the farmers. California is in a serious drought, so McCain waltzing into California having said we need 45-100 nukes (about 10 percent would be in California) is heading for a lot of potential opposition.
GOP-er asshat extraordinaire, Utah’s Chris Cannon has gone down in a primary election.
So long Bush-bot.
-G
Just gotta be aware when the snakes slither into the fresh cool waters of the Lake.
from glenn this morning:
As noted yesterday, Obama gave a rousing speech during the South Carolina primary in which he inveighed against “wiretaps without warrants.” On August 1 of last year, he delivered a speech entitled “The War We Need To Win” and said this (h/t cjackb):
It’s difficult for even the hardest-core Obama supporter to reconcile these statements, made when he was seeking the Democratic nomination, with his current support for a bill containing new warrantless eavesdropping powers and telecom amnesty. That’s just a fact.
Out to
hisCindy’s “rustic cabin”. It’s the secret to those great BBQed ribs he cooks soooo slowly that the meat just falls of the bone.Excellent to point out the difference in helping Clinton directly and indirectly however MSM is playing it as direct help…curse that MSM.
Sheesh, and all this time I thought these fenderheads were already radioactive enough.
From Nation
A very interesting article about the MSM and their love affair with McShithead
Happy to have Hillary telling her supporters to vote Obama, but Bill really should hide for the rest of this year.
Hope Obama doesn’t take advice from Hillary though…it’d would just be nice if Obama can get some of Hillary’s “Harriets” on his side. He’s gotta win by a landslide since we know they’ll be pulling out every trick in the book in Nov.
Yahoo has a nice fluff piece up and a photo of McCain right now. People are conflicted about the war, but some are still voting for McCain – find out why.
Also – FISA, 4th Ammendment, and Telco Immunity story is suffering a Media Blackout – the likes of which we haven’t seen since the John Edwards campaign.
selise — thanks for the Greenwald update. I’ve switched my “Glenn” link to that one.
well, if he wants the power to spy on me without a warrant – especially after campaigning in the primary for the opposite – he may very well have lost my vote.
SWEEEEET… Here’s hoping we can do the same to John Barrow in GA12 next month.
Yes. It’s troubling. Not sure how many more of these shitty votes I’ll take before deciding to write-in someone.
Of course, Obama hasn’t voted yet.
i’m hoping that the money bomb being organized by the ron paul folks will break through.
Well, the dude lost to someone even more wingnuttier than the BushBot. Not all that encouraging.
exactly. and it’s not over until it’s over.
but a kabuki vote isn’t enough – he’s got to support the filibuster.
Our primary challenger is a grand lady — Regina Thomas, who was here as a Blue America candidate.
Absolutely. To the phones!
re: how i plan to vote in the presidential election: i don’t know. i’m too pissed off right now to make a rational decision and because i don’t have to decide now i’m kicking the can down the road.
waiting for 9am – 8 minutes to go.
helping a multimillinoaire many times over retired debt, a large portion of which was self inflicted, is plain damned sick.
Yes, I saw her FDL appearance and have supported her. Just for clarity, I was referring to the Utah BushBot, not Barrow.
Needless to say the massive lead that Obama now has over McCain will be hailed by Our Liberal Media as Good for the Republicans.”
Scary numbers. When I look at those numbers, I translate the 700 nukes @1000MW each into 700,000MW of something we haven’t invented yet — non-carbon generating capacity still to be defined, just to get 1/7 of a target that’s not good enough — didn’t A.Siegle say we need to get to 350ppm? It is a staggering problem, and nothing the candidates are talking about so far seems remotely in the ball park yet.
Bushbots is Bushbots is Bushbots… Not all that much difference that I can see!
p.s. something else that can be done today – marcy is, i think, going to have a post up this morning asking for help with a quick research project. it’s not up yet, but something to keep one’s eye on – if you, like me, are looking for something constructive to do with the anger.
Yeah, but it helps to demoralize the GOP-er incumbents and that is good. Plus it is another experienced GOP with connections down the drain.
-G
I agree. She should just “loan” her campaign enough to cover all those debts, and that’s probably what she’ll have to do when all is said and done.
It is wise though for Obama to tell his supporters to help her out if they feel like it, and that’s all Obama has done. It’ll smooth over some of the divide.
OT, but a little George to start your day:
“We’re a warlike people. We can’t stand not to be fucking with someone.
We couldn’t wait for the Cold War to end so we could climb into the big
Arab sandbox and play with our nice new toys. We enjoy war.
And one reason we enjoy it is that we’re good at it. You know why we’re good
at it? Because we get a lot of practice. This country is only 200 years old,
and already we’ve had ten major wars. We average a major war every twenty
years, So we’re good at it!
And it’s just as well we are, because we’re not very good at anything else.
Can’t build a decent car anymore. Can’t make a TV set, a cell phone, or a
VCR. Got no steel industry left. No textiles. Can’t educate our young
people. Can’t get health care to our old people. But we can bomb the shit
outta your country, all right. We can bomb the shit outta your country!
Especially if your country is full of brown people. Oh, we like that, don’t
we? That’s our hobby now. But it’s also our new job in the world: bombing
brown people. Iraq, Panama, Grenada, Libya. You got some brown people in
your country? Tell ‘em to watch the fuck out, or we’ll goddamn bomb them!”
RIP
Good point. There are some reasonable Repubs (don’t ban me please!), and getting another DeeCee Insider outta there is positive.
Good Morning Scarecrow and Firedogs -
that would be the same James Dobson who still wont endorse McCan’t – bawaahaaahaaaa
We don’t ban people for thinking there are reasonable Republicans; we don’t even ban reasonable Republicans.
mornin’ s’crow and pups—
well, you can always send some love to dodd
heard he still has campaign debt……or just send him a note or call to thank him for standing up AGAIN.
1-800-450-8293 capitol switchboard.
http://www.chrisdodd.com/doddpod
and don’t forget to tell reps and sens about the blueamerica fisa campaign, how many people are reacting to it, and that they may be affected by it.
and tell obama backing barrow was dumb and costly, to us and to him if regina thomas loses because of it.
and the medicare bill isn[’t going to be resolved in time by the july 1st cut-off date……..an emergency extension is needed, is going to affect a lot of people and their families…….please add this to your list of points to make when you call and write……
Bill Foster, Denny’s Hasturd replacement who Blue America ran against, voted on the side of angels and against the FISA fiasco. Obama did an ad for Foster as well, so maybe he can have some influence on Barrow if Regina loses? Trying to find some solace and comfort in the situation…
mornin,
just so ya know -
some folks heard ya the other night :D
There used to be a lot more before Newtie and Bugman Delay started in on the Republican party. They’re almost extinct now.
OT:
I just sent this email to Senators Martinez, Nelson and Reid:
Subj: Warrantless wiretapping by profit-making spy corporations
Does the Senator realize that approval of retroactive immunity for ATT & Verizon means that the profit-making data contractors that handle 70% of the Federal domestic spying program will have unrestricted access to global corporate data?
Sincerely,
Karen J Jacobs
my address
you apparently haven’t been to Obamaworld yet . . .the kewlest site evuh!
why this is “just some telecom thingy” doncha know
oy
Morning pups. Selise, if you are still here, Jonathan Turley mentioned on KO last night that he would be testifyfing on the Hill today – any idea of whether he meant HJC or SJC and if it will be on CSpan?
I haven’t even gotten the routine form email response from either Nelson or Martinez to any of my emails. Gotta get rid of both these bums next time around.
did foster have a position on fisa legislation during his campaign? (i’m wondering if he should be on the list)
Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.
Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.
Namaste
That’s ok, just have to flood their inboxes TODAY! I used their mandatory subjects: telecommunications, intelligence. ^..^
Sure would be nice if the candidate could stand with Senators Russ Feingold and Chris Dodd (see last night’s speech) and with his party’s most activist base on protecting the Constitution, judicial oversight and executive accountability. Then we could share some of the enthusiasm too.
I’ll drink some coffee to that one. So Feingold and Dodd will filibuster. They should have the support of the Dem nominee for president and campaign partner. Whatever happened to that group that put up a NYT ad during one of the other FISA fights that said (paraphrase): Clinton and Obama, do your job; show up to help Dodd et al. ?
Also important:
Looks like trex needs some love at iamtrex.com.
The problem for me is that McCain gives me such the heebie jeebies that . . .
no, i’ve been a slacker wrt the hearing list this week and i’m working on a diary now (how fisa went down in the house part 2). i write painfully slowly (unless it’s unedited comments as i do here) so i don’t know if i’ll get to it – at the earliest it will be tonight.
will check re turley right now – also regardless if i get my act together on the hearing list, don’t miss the big hearing on thursday –
cbl2 at 50–it’s warren!!!!!!!! my best friend john always played lawyers guns and money, dad get me outta this, hunh..for me..
looks like my dial-up computer is gonna be tying up the phone line for a while this am…
the other night, yeah, i remember that, kinda……for reasons not stated, i had a few gin and tonics lotsa lime, was buzzin’ like a fat fly on a window–in a good way……
and i posted a link for mr. cbl last night, texbetsy’s pics from ecahns…think it was epu’d……he was jonesin’-to use dr. bong’s phrase–for some pics.
http://picasaweb.google.com/Te…..-6thXTEXgc
other people, kathryn in ma, posted some on facebook, but i’m not on there……..
G’morning, and please vote Obama. The man is flawed. Did we not know that? But any alternative is toxic. Deadly. Illegal. Immoral. Also bad.
forgot–thanks bonkers
: )
g’morning scarecrow!
another great thread but let’t not forget, krystol as informed us if the president beleives obama will win America WILL attack Iran
now, krystol is ALWAYS wrong when he’s trying to disuade us from the truth, predictions about the results and cost of war, etc, however he is ALWAYS right when he’s “predicting” the actions of the president
now, to be fair, he might be making a vailed threat, “vote for mccain or have another war”, which does seem likely given the current temperment concerning this president, however we do need to be on guard, knowledge is innoculation and we must look out for the president actually attacking Iran because it seems mccain cannot possibly win
it’s the HJC. here ya go:
you know, we are all comming down on obama for his position and actions on this fisa, (myself at the forefront), however I would like to know, is hillary supporting a filibuster?
it seems to me she better if she expects to be the go to gut in the case of an obama fall, and to judge now, obama is going to start to lose tons of democrats if he keeps this up
don’t ask me to decide now. you wouldn’t like my choice. please let’s wait until i have a chance to think without all the anger.
Thanks, dmac. Didn’t see it last night.
Yup. Iran has to be attacked and we can’t count on Israel and the Democrats to get the job done. So there’s only about a six-month window of opportunity to do what needs to be done.
Hmmm. Yum yum yum what will be in store for Heather wilson of the sealed affadavits? (I saw Heather Williams, and thought of Wilson) Or Domenici?
thanks a million for those snaps – always love to see the firedogs.
wish it had captions/labels – I recognize ecahn and our Bets but would love to put names with the other faces – who is that huggin’ those westies ? is that our Elliot ?
No way in hell Obama is going to support a Feingold/Dodd filbuster, it would be political suicide with the center & he probably didn’t appreciate Feingold’s remarks on his rejection of campaign finance.
The “center” of what? Are you claiming that the rank-and-file American want to be spied on?
Thanks Selise, I appreciate all you do.
Sociopaths always have great “reasons” don’t they.
Obama doesn’t have to support filibuster, he just has to not show up (ala McCain) and that is one less vote for cloture. He could also ply the Republican game (ala Specter) saying I support the bill, but vote against cloture because of an unfair process.
mornin’ hotness,
feelin’ much better this morning
look what I found over at Big Orange :D
don’t forget to leave a big fat
tiprecommend !mucho smoocho
Vote for McCain AND have another war.
There is something in all of this that the Dems have failed to capture and articulate. Something along the lines that terrorists have left us alone because they thrive and grow when Republicans are in office, all the chest-pounding and bleating notwithstanding. That they thrive because the real deal is oil uber alles. Period. That if Obama continues to look viable, they are likely to strike to herd the American sheep back into the comfort of the Republican fold.
The other part of the problem IMSHO is that when most Americans hear that it’s all about the oil, they pat their SUVs fondly and say, “Booyah!” All of which makes truth-telling massively complicated in a country addicted to petroleum.
well then, obama shouldn’t have made the statements he did during the primary campaign.
also – what center? who supports immunity for telcos? i mean other than the telcos and the complicit political elite?
I was being a smart-ass. It’s what I do. Sorry.
some people have asked that their names not be put with their faces. if the rest of us put our names out there, then it might be possible to figure out the remaining. i understand the urge, but ask that if you indulge in it, you don’t post it. thanks.
no problem. smart ass is good.
I don’t get Obama’s stating that he’ll work in the Senate to do something about retroactive immunity while mainly supporting the FISA amendments legislation. He doesn’t consider the immunity provision all that significant, yet he knocks it just enough to provide ammunition to be used against him. His statement is not politically adroit, and could cause him trouble even if it did not come across as disingenuous.
gotcha! didn’t think of that.
selise thanks again for the heads up on the hearings – Scott Horton doing play-by-play will be so kewl !!!
*rubs eyes, trys to type while propping lids open*
There is a whole lotta vote for McCain or else bein’ pushed by all the Usual Rethuglican Suspects.
Oh the other hand, Imus interviewed Jann Wenner this a.m.about Rolling Stone article interviewing Obama. Glowing words all around. The show re-airs on RFD-HD evenings and WABC usually gets the interviews posted at their website within a day. Also propped The Great Derangement. Imus luvs Taibbi.
the neo cons and the supporters of this president will say;
“we haven’t been attacked since my programs have been in effect”
this however is the same thing my dad used to tell me;
“this watch necklace, passed down to me from my father protects us from gorilla attack, we have not been attacked by gorilla and we have this necklace to thank”
same thing
Yeah, that would really show leadership.
Yes.
The “center” I referenced = most uninformed (or misinformed) citizens who equate warrantless wiretapping with “I don’t care if they listen in on me, I’ve got nothing to hide”
here’s what we have to remember about mccain;
the republicans now enjoy more vile hatred then they have in their history, “democrats for reagan” will switch back, more voters will vote, more disenfranchised voters will vote then the previous election
the previous election kerry won, with these new dynamics, I cannot believe mccain even polls much less polls close to obama
and though obama is pulling away lately, it seems some kind of gaming is going on with the polls
they are expecting some kind of turnaround for mccain
now let’s be clear, the presdident had his chance to win the next election for mccain, when Iraq was making overtones that they wanted us out, all bush had to do was;
“see?…the surge worked, they have stood up, we are there at their invitation and now we will draw down”
bing, mccain is our next president
but the president didn’t seize the oportunity so here we are today
now, obama better step to the plate, he must renounce his position so peeps like myself do not believe he has corrupted himself
he must demand of the democrats, “do not vote for this bill as it stands”
Especially not those who are goofy with er . . . hospitality.
I should have added that the oil producing nations, oil producers, corporate oil barons, whatever, are loving our addictions and want status quo. The Rethugs, no matter what McBush says today on the shores of Santa Barbara or Bodega Bay or Mendocino or wherever, will not change the rhetoric. It will all be about “feeling better” not about change.
Now, do I think Obama will force us to come to grips with our need for a real, actual, honest-to-goodness nationwide energy efficiency initiative like we’ve never seen before? 50-50. But that’s better than 0. Because that’s the only thing that’s going to solve our problems short-term (the next 5-7 years) until we get some of these longer term things going. Some of these we like (solar, wind, bio-anything), and some that some of us may not like (nuclear, etc.). But the numbers (our energy consumption as a nation and as individuals) don’t lie.
Just off the phone with oshama’s office. He is going to support the “compromse”. What an unadulterated twit. But at least I now know for certain that he is nothing but a bought and paid for lackey of the MIC. Leader, change, Hah!!!!
I don’t where the I’ve-got-nothing-to-hide crowd find their faith that no item of collected peronal information can be misconstrued. I can hardly think of any item of collected personal information that can’t be misconstrued.
I read that that if you are maxxed out to Obama then give to Clinton.
Not me. I give a little when I can. I want to feel a part of Obamas campaign, not paying for her vanity.
Senator Obama is going to win an Electoral Landslide this fall. The choice is too obvious, the electorate is too energized and McCain is too old in every sense of the word. Look for Barr to do better than expected in the South.
The progressive blogs need to take up policy initiatives to help create a rolling start. Every aspect of American life requires its own moonshot mentality. FISA may be our well justified fixation de jour, but the broad restoration of civil liberties will require more than one piece of legislation.
If you’re an activist who wants actual change to happen, look down ticket, to the contended House and Senate races. Obama’s coat tails are going to be the stuff of legend and we cannot miss opportunities to extend the majorities.
I keep getting knocked down, I try to get up again but this is too much
we have put so much faith in this man and I am betrayed.
me goes off to sulk, see all later
Would it be petty to rush over to NoQuarter and gloat?
Yeah, it would.
Yes an Electoral Landslide!
let’s find a way not to betray each other – fuck the politicians, they are not our allies.
Meanwhile, I have noticed a real hard sell by all of the usual suspects to paint the situation in Iraq as a great victory.
Brooks, Cal Thomas, the rest of the smouldering dildo-ratti are pushing the great success theme.
Yet Afghanistan is turning into an asheap.
-G
ash-heap.
-G
Watch out for those coat tails they are full of shit.
Christy’s upstairs
Not to sound like “I told you so”, but as Naomi Klein said, the time to press the candidates for positions (not cheerlead as folks were prone to do) was during the primary, not after.
I take credit for the Westies… their called Bellibo, the two dogs with one name (actually Belle and Beau). I the proud owner in the orange shirt. There were lots of pics taken and I sent mine to TexBets and she put them on the Picasa site. I suggest others email them.
We had some drinking liberally members at the meet up as well as some local college prof friends of eCahn. It was a wonderful event. Thanks eCahn!
DFH drunks!!!
I would def not put it past the Neocons and their bushbot to attack Iran right before the election to try to tip the vote… or even suspend elections for some emergency “need”.
If the don’t it looks like Obi will win and the change he promises is another round of the old guard who were their in Clinton times. Once he feels the power he seems to want to suck up to the same big boys in industry.
I don’t think we can expect to many radical changes from that dude. But anything is better than McSame.
Didn’t poppy have a go at Somalia just before the cigar man was inaugurated?
Called Obama again. Left a terse message.
Obama is a sock puppet, and that isn’t chocolate pudding that Pelosi, Hoyer, Reid, et al. are licking off their fingers.
I am voting against Obama.
Oh hey, be careful of who you call DFH ;-)
Grumbling in the ranks? what are the Obama bots afraid of? You got what the MSM wanted. Now let us hope that he is at least better than Hillary.