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		<title>By: Smgumby</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/25/now-that-was-a-speech/#comment-1515241</link>
		<dc:creator>Smgumby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well that wasn’t hard at all.  Dodd’s speech is off to Obama via multiple routes.  I &lt;a href=&quot;http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/contact2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;emailed&lt;/a&gt; a condensed version.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I posted a full version on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/matthewmixon/gG5RcY&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;campaign blog&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I have a paper copy going to him via snail mail.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that wasn’t hard at all.  Dodd’s speech is off to Obama via multiple routes.  I <a href="http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/contact2" rel="nofollow">emailed</a> a condensed version.</p>
<p>I posted a full version on the <a href="http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/matthewmixon/gG5RcY" rel="nofollow">campaign blog</a>.</p>
<p>And I have a paper copy going to him via snail mail.</p>
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		<title>By: mui1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/25/now-that-was-a-speech/#comment-1514419</link>
		<dc:creator>mui1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://dodd.senate.gov/index.php?q=node/4469&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Note to Dodd.&lt;/a&gt; I suppose if Lieberman is going to sell his soul to Chimpy, and you partner up with him we should get something, right? Well New Haven needs the money than Stamford. Pssst, its desperate, we could use money for the schools and library.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dodd.senate.gov/index.php?q=node/4469" rel="nofollow">Note to Dodd.</a> I suppose if Lieberman is going to sell his soul to Chimpy, and you partner up with him we should get something, right? Well New Haven needs the money than Stamford. Pssst, its desperate, we could use money for the schools and library.</p>
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		<title>By: mui1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/25/now-that-was-a-speech/#comment-1514414</link>
		<dc:creator>mui1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Er Dodd’s staff needs to fix that linky link. I was poised, pointed and ready to go: click image for video, and then anticlimax. nothing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er Dodd’s staff needs to fix that linky link. I was poised, pointed and ready to go: click image for video, and then anticlimax. nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: SanderO</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/25/now-that-was-a-speech/#comment-1514347</link>
		<dc:creator>SanderO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t know that Russia is into the cold war struggle sphere of influence rubbish, but if they become a player on the world stage as one of the nations who cooperates as opposed to the US whose approach is to dominate… they will benefit from our coming collapse from yet another war.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We are being screwed by the empire freaks with their military attack dogs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t know that Russia is into the cold war struggle sphere of influence rubbish, but if they become a player on the world stage as one of the nations who cooperates as opposed to the US whose approach is to dominate… they will benefit from our coming collapse from yet another war.</p>
<p>We are being screwed by the empire freaks with their military attack dogs.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/25/now-that-was-a-speech/#comment-1514237</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I also think that there is this feeling that ‘war crimes’ is something someone from some OTHER place does - even if intellectually they know that it’s war crimes, they really cringe at labeling Americans with that. Slobedon Milosevich - that’s a whole different story, right?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The rest of the Western Civilization knows their own history and they look to the American dream as much as we do, sometimes more, for the hope of a more ideal world. Nobody wants to tear us down just now when there’s still plenty of time for us to get back up and continue the race. Everybody is hopeful and wants our “leadership” in the sense that they hope for a future for themselves that is as wonderful as that which we strive for every day.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It was said in the early 1980s that our pride was hurt by the Iranian Hostages event. That may have been true, but it was ‘them’ who hurt us. Our recent problems have been self-inflicted and that’s not as common. We can’t blame ‘them’ for our current bad behavior. But, the American people are hopeful and idealistic — we want to live the dream — and we’ll do our best to get back on track as soon as possible.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, the American people aren’t particularly vindictive and mean, so we can’t really expect a great deal of ‘looking back’ and ‘punishments for the guilty’. In this instance I think the Bushies are counting on that and it isn’t helpful.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There will be a time for repairing damage and then there will be a time where we consider our next big step forward. Are Americans going to say they’re perfectly comfortable with “the good life on Easy Street” or will they see the continued growing wealth disparity as problematic? It reminds me of the old question of what kind of gift you get for someone who has everything: with all we’ve got, just what do the American people want America to be like in 25, 50 or 100 years?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I also think that there is this feeling that ‘war crimes’ is something someone from some OTHER place does &#8211; even if intellectually they know that it’s war crimes, they really cringe at labeling Americans with that. Slobedon Milosevich &#8211; that’s a whole different story, right?</p>
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<p>The rest of the Western Civilization knows their own history and they look to the American dream as much as we do, sometimes more, for the hope of a more ideal world. Nobody wants to tear us down just now when there’s still plenty of time for us to get back up and continue the race. Everybody is hopeful and wants our “leadership” in the sense that they hope for a future for themselves that is as wonderful as that which we strive for every day.</p>
<p>It was said in the early 1980s that our pride was hurt by the Iranian Hostages event. That may have been true, but it was ‘them’ who hurt us. Our recent problems have been self-inflicted and that’s not as common. We can’t blame ‘them’ for our current bad behavior. But, the American people are hopeful and idealistic — we want to live the dream — and we’ll do our best to get back on track as soon as possible.</p>
<p>On the other hand, the American people aren’t particularly vindictive and mean, so we can’t really expect a great deal of ‘looking back’ and ‘punishments for the guilty’. In this instance I think the Bushies are counting on that and it isn’t helpful.</p>
<p>There will be a time for repairing damage and then there will be a time where we consider our next big step forward. Are Americans going to say they’re perfectly comfortable with “the good life on Easy Street” or will they see the continued growing wealth disparity as problematic? It reminds me of the old question of what kind of gift you get for someone who has everything: with all we’ve got, just what do the American people want America to be like in 25, 50 or 100 years?</p>
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		<title>By: DWBartoo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/25/now-that-was-a-speech/#comment-1514232</link>
		<dc:creator>DWBartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I hope and suspect wigwam, that you are correct, yet our nation seems quite unable to grasp all that WE are losing … &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thus, in one swell foop, we have rendered ourselves pariahs and shown beyond all question or doubt that other nations, apparently, are capable of imagining consequence and thereby giving the appearance of possessing at least a meager store of principles, while we actively continue to demonstrate that we have none.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At some point, however, the rest of the world will have had enough of our meddling and destructive arrogance.  We are no longer a bastion of hope and decency, but have become a terror and a threat to conscience and the possibility of peace.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Billions for war, yet not a penny for peace.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think it quite obvious where our ‘values’ lie …&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope and suspect wigwam, that you are correct, yet our nation seems quite unable to grasp all that WE are losing … </p>
<p>Thus, in one swell foop, we have rendered ourselves pariahs and shown beyond all question or doubt that other nations, apparently, are capable of imagining consequence and thereby giving the appearance of possessing at least a meager store of principles, while we actively continue to demonstrate that we have none.</p>
<p>At some point, however, the rest of the world will have had enough of our meddling and destructive arrogance.  We are no longer a bastion of hope and decency, but have become a terror and a threat to conscience and the possibility of peace.</p>
<p>Billions for war, yet not a penny for peace.</p>
<p>I think it quite obvious where our ‘values’ lie …</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
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		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is “American journalism” an oxymoron?  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080623_the_hedonists_of_power/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.truthdig.com/report....._of_power/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is “American journalism” an oxymoron?  <a href="http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080623_the_hedonists_of_power/" rel="nofollow">http://www.truthdig.com/report&#8230;.._of_power/</a></p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/25/now-that-was-a-speech/#comment-1514113</link>
		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Certainly Russia would benefit …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My concern is that ‘they’ might feel compelled to do ’something’ …
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&lt;p&gt;They can be expected to provide weapons, as we did in Afghanistan in the early 80s.  They have too much to lose, however, if they take a combat role.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Certainly Russia would benefit …</p>
<p>My concern is that ‘they’ might feel compelled to do ’something’ …
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<p>They can be expected to provide weapons, as we did in Afghanistan in the early 80s.  They have too much to lose, however, if they take a combat role.</p>
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		<title>By: DWBartoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWBartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Certainly Russia would benefit …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My concern is that ‘they’ might feel compelled to do ’something’ …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You know how ‘leaders’ in countries where ‘money is all-that-matters’ behave, doncha?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Besides, ‘Murkah being ‘numero uno’ must still rankle and the lust for empuh seems an historically  powerful ‘draw’. And, no doubt, their military, having suffered some uh, ’setbacks’ in recent decades must wish to flex their muscles.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the other foot, they might, as you appear to suggest, simply be quite pleased to stand happily in the wings while we display our absolute mindlessness and thereby align most of the rest of the world agin us.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I always assume that ‘great’ powers always need to prove that their’s are bigger.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Certainly that is what our Great Homeland, thanks to the Strausian waltzers, is all about, in foreign affairs, in domestic affairs and in interplanetary affairs as well …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wonder what will happen if we ever meet some real actual ‘aliens’ …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course, if ‘they’ have a big book entitled, “To Serve Man”, some of ‘us’ will realize what zone we have entered …&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly Russia would benefit …</p>
<p>My concern is that ‘they’ might feel compelled to do ’something’ …</p>
<p>You know how ‘leaders’ in countries where ‘money is all-that-matters’ behave, doncha?</p>
<p>Besides, ‘Murkah being ‘numero uno’ must still rankle and the lust for empuh seems an historically  powerful ‘draw’. And, no doubt, their military, having suffered some uh, ’setbacks’ in recent decades must wish to flex their muscles.</p>
<p>On the other foot, they might, as you appear to suggest, simply be quite pleased to stand happily in the wings while we display our absolute mindlessness and thereby align most of the rest of the world agin us.</p>
<p>I always assume that ‘great’ powers always need to prove that their’s are bigger.</p>
<p>Certainly that is what our Great Homeland, thanks to the Strausian waltzers, is all about, in foreign affairs, in domestic affairs and in interplanetary affairs as well …</p>
<p>Wonder what will happen if we ever meet some real actual ‘aliens’ …</p>
<p>Of course, if ‘they’ have a big book entitled, “To Serve Man”, some of ‘us’ will realize what zone we have entered …</p>
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		<title>By: wobblybits</title>
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		<dc:creator>wobblybits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I get in more trouble with that old rational thought thing&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get in more trouble with that old rational thought thing</p>
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