Yesterday evening, Sen. Chris Dodd gave a ripping speech on the Senate floor regarding FISA, the rule of law, and the disrespect for the institutions of government that supporters of telecom immunity have shown. It was the best speech anyone has given since this whole illegal domestic spying program was revealed.
Sen. Dodd laid out the law and the facts of the whistleblower revelations about what has been done...everything. It was clear, concise, and passionate, and if you missed it last night, you need to watch it.
Here's just a segment:
...And if I have needed any reminder of that fact, simply look to all those who have joined this fight – my colleagues and the many, many Americans who have given me strength for this fight. Strength that comes from the passion and eloquence of citizens who don’t have to be involved, but choose to be nonetheless.
They see what I see in this debate – that by short-circuiting the judicial process we are sending a dangerous signal to future generations. They see us establishing a precedent that Congress can—and will—provide immunity to potential law breakers, if they are “important” enough....
Mr. President, unwarranted domestic spying didn’t happen in a panic or short-term emergency, not for a week, or a month, or even a year. If it had, I might not be here today.
But that isn’t the case. What we now know is that spying by this Administration went on, relentlessly, for more than five years....
But that isn’t the case either, Mr. President. Indeed, I am here today because with offense after another after another, I believe it is long past time to say: “enough.”
I am here today because of a pattern—a pattern of abuse against civil liberties and the rule of law. Against the Constitution—of which we are custodians, temporary though that status may be....
So, why are we here? Because, Mr. President – it is alleged that giant telecom corporations worked with our government to compile Americans’ private, domestic communications records into a database of enormous scale and scope.
Secretly and without a warrant, those corporations are alleged to have spied on their own customers – American customers.
Here’s only one of the most egregious examples. According to the Electronic Frontier Foundation:
Clear, first-hand whistleblower documentary evidence [states]…that for year on end every e-mail, every text message, and every phone call carried over the massive fiber-optic links of sixteen separate companies routed through AT&T’s Internet hub in San Francisco—hundreds of millions of private, domestic communications—have been…copied in their entirety by AT&T and knowingly diverted wholesale by means of multiple “splitters” into a secret room controlled exclusively by the NSA.
The phone calls and internet traffic of millions of Americans, diverted into a secret room controlled by the National Security Agency. That allegation still needs to be proven in a court of law. But it clearly needs to be determined in a court of law and not here in Senate.
I suppose if you only see cables and computers there, the whole thing seems almost harmless. Certainly nothing to get worked up about—a routine security sweep, and a routine piece of legislation blessing it....
I imagine you wouldn’t see much harm in voting to allow this practice to continue either.
But if you see a vast dragnet for millions of Americans’ private conversations, conducted by a government agency that acted without a warrant, acted outside of the rule of law—then, I believe, you’ll recognize what’s at stake here. You’ll see that what’s at stake is the sanctity of the law and the sanctity of our privacy. And you’ll probably come to a very different conclusion....
Read the entire speech and watch it on video here. Bravo, Sen. Dodd -- and thank you for standing up, time and time again, on this issue. Much appreciated.
Glenn, dday, Kagro, emptywheel -- all have more on this issue. And I'll have more in a bit as well.
UPDATE: The Senate, for this morning at least, will be dealing with housing bill issues. Just confirmed that with some folks on the Hill. Am keeping an eye on this, though, and will update if that changes.
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Christy!
Morning barbara! Ahhhhh…second cuppa coffee…
First cup of coffee….but oh so validating to wake up and see this post. (after a night with the kids at grandma’s. delicious)
Wooot!!!
Trying to think of ways to appreciate Dodd. Maybe he doesn’t need the money but I am going to send him a few dollars anyway just to show how I seriously I appreciate his stand up on this. When I send money, it’s serious.
What other ways can we show how many are behind him.
Feels good, that perhaps all those phone calls and faxes, matter to someone.
Morning Christy!
That was quite the speech indeed, hope he changed some Senate minds.
Thanks for this Christy. I saw all of Dodd live. I was very pleased. Using st. ronny’s own words, masterfull.
{sipping sounds} as opposed to sucking sounds.
Remember all those “tests” that were out there when the Dem field was huge? Check your stand on issues and see which candidate matches your views? I was endlessly surprised at how often Chris Dodd showed up in the top few of my results. Chris Dodd? Who?
Well, now I know. Now we know. Hmmmm.
Damn I like that Chris Dodd.
Obama, why can’t you be more like your brother in the Senate?
I’m glad Dodd attempted to paint a broad picture of domestic surveillance. So much discussion of FISA issues treats the federal surveillance programs as surgical efforts at excising bad guys.
‘G’mornin’…first cuppa coffee…typo warning…
Yes, I too watched Dodd’s speech on rawstory.com. ‘teh awesome’ as my kids are wont to say. At the same time, an email from Sen. Clinton dropped into my mailbox with her message: “Now, the Bush Administration has vowed to block any surveillance legislation that does not provide retroactive immunity to telecommunication companies. I believe that granting retroactive immunity under these circumstances is wrong and undermines accountability. To that end, I supported and co-sponsored efforts to strip this provision from the FISA legislation. I was discouraged to see that amendment fail the last time it was considered in the Senate. In the weeks to come, I will continue to work with my colleagues to pass an improved bill, one that takes the needed steps to defend our homeland while also defending and respecting our Constitution, our laws, and our privacy“
There is only one word to describe the sentiment impelling Americans to give up their liberties: COWARDICE. The Republicans are purveyors of cowardice, and the democrats are betting that the cititzen of the United States can’t resist. And the founding fathers foresaw this danger. Scott Horton quotes this from a message from Madison to Jefferson:
This cave by the democrats is so cowardly. People don’t respect cowards. Is it any wonder demos are thought of as the weakling party? The repugs would never do this, they do what they want, the public be damned and it gets them re-elected. They piss on your foot and tell you it’s raining. The dems just can’t see that voters detest ass kissers and will vote against them even against their own interests.
Dodd was my first choice all along and even though he’d already dropped out, I still voted for him during the primary since he was still on the ballot.
“…every e-mail, every text message, and every phone call carried over the massive fiber-optic links of sixteen separate companies routed through AT&T’s Internet hub in San Francisco—”
Something for us all to remember — the communications system in the world — the internet especially — bounces around. I recall a site that I saw once years ago that showed how and where internet stuff was being routed and my emails in Upstate NY to my sister in the DC area were being bounced all over the country before they got to her. So, people need to understand that it was not just West Coast people’s communications that were being swept up in that room in SF.
- General Warrants
- Writs of Assistance
- Private Bill (retroactive and prospective immunity)
What’s not to love?
;)
Initially, I was a very big fan of Dodd, but I became a bit disillusioned with him when he said that he wouldn’t prosecute BushCo. He was the last candidate I expected that from, given how proud the is of his father’s service as a prosecutor at Nuremberg.
I would add ‘complacency’ to cowardice. Many Americans do not participate in their own government.
(((Quaker girl)))
This capitulation on FISA is the end result of Pelosi taking impeachment off the table. Since they decided not to impeach, they had to leaglize the whole thing or else admit Bush broke the law. Admiting he broke the law means impeachment and so around and around we go.
The NSA vacuuming is based on a number of trigger words/phrases. I think it is time for all communications to include all, or at least some, of those trigger words which, hopefully will screw up their system. Words like bomb, terrorist and muslim. It is time for citizen action to screw their system.
bom dia pups
I was on the road last night but my local liberal station played parts of the speech live.
I wonder if the NSA has programmed lolcat into their triggers yet *s
Off to work! Keep an eye on those wankers!!
Crap, Exxon just won in the Supreme Court.
“…I have a hit on Echelon, keyword ‘Blackbriar.’ Repeat, ‘Blackbriar.’ It appears to be a European signal…”
Bourne Ultimatum @10:19.
No longer fiction.
I saw Dodd, sent Dodd love via fax: the faxes almost always seem to get through when phone mailboxes are full. OT, for people who are counting scandals, Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) has just droned on to reveal Treasury IG Shindell (acting) has intervened to close an investigation into misuse of Public Transit Subsidy Program by “Senior Treasury Officials,” whoever they are. Add it to the list…
Unfortunately, the Republicans have the advantage that they’re the party of big business, so they can sell out to big corporate donors and only be corrupt, not cowardly. Unfortunately, in this case, for the Dems it seems to be more corruption than cowardice:
Telecom industry contributions to Dems pay off big
Great Speech.
A bit off topic, but can anyone explain to me why Republicans confuse the usage of the two words Democrat and Democratic? I just listened to Indiana Rep. Pence on C-Span and was so annoyed by his talking points that I phoned his office to ask the same question. They could not answer it. Help me out here.
Pelosi effective disabled the safeguard that the founding fathers put into the system for preventing presidential abuse. She thereby enabled the continuation of a well-documented on-going program of war crimes, an actionable breach of oversight responsibility.
same here dakine at 15, same here……..but i guess he’s needed in the senate more than the white house with the lack of sens and reps with steel balls walking the halls.
pups, send him some love and thank him, and if inclined, money, he still has campaign debt.
http://www.chrisdodd.com/doddpod
and while you’re at it, thank kucincih for his articles of impeachment….their office staff is my favorite on the hill.
1-800-450-8293
i keep telling reps and sens that i don’t know of one voter that has said, hey, the telcos should get immunity. who are they representing with their vote?
and then i tell them how many have contributed to blueamericafisa in just a week….for ads against dems who voted for the telcos and the loopholes that would prevent prosecution of those who broke our laws.
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OHIO ALERT-or anyone else that wants to call, they didn’t ask me where i was from…..
and ohioans, there is a bill on strickland’s desk right now, ready to sign, and he’s indicated he’s going to sign it, that will make it law that if you have 2 dui’s and are pulled over, they can take your blood right there and now……we really don’t want that door opened….
i already called about it……
1-614-644-help
Breaking News:
Bush Administration to appease charter member of the Axis of Evil, North Korea.
John Bolton’s head explodes.
-G
It’s an intentional slur.
Clinton:
People like Clinton, whose idea of ‘defending the homeland’ is to engage in sabre rattling, harassment, belligerence, and outright hostilities against nations thousands of miles away should be banished from the Senate
I would like to hear more from those who are willing to push for a ‘live and let live’ foreign policy less from people attracted to her pernicious, pea-brained, self-centered parochialism.
Unfortunately, their filtering is sophisticated enough not to trigger on random keywords (based on the word of a friend who’s a contractor working on this sort of thing.)
Ah, now that Condi wants to set up a hair salon/shoe boutique in Tehran, they have to move on.
This whole bill is a disgrace, and Barack Obama is a disgrace himself for breaking his promise to filibuster.
-Sigh- looks like my money is going to act blue and my vote is going to Bob Barr in protest.
Good Morning Christy and firedogs -
so relieved to see Dodd step up - there were moments since last friday where I doubted him
I has a confusion -
am working strictly from the premise that this is all about Dem complicity and permanently hiding it from public view. I still think Harry’s announced opposition is just more slight of hand -
but after reading Kagro’s post - (everybody wanting to go back to their districts claiming to have voted on Mortgage, unemployment, eye-rack suppl.)was this just more of their cluelessness/tin ears ?(I mean rully, who don’t they misread ?!?!?) did they actually just screw this up by trying to ram it through without checking the agenda first ?
I will continue to hope for and work for delay, delay, delay - but coming from my accepted premise, they will find a way to run the table soon
I’m betting it doesn’t need trigger words. They can afford the capacity to record and archive (in perpetuity) EVERYTHING, i.e., all phone calls and keystrokes of everyone.
Is this on youtube? May be a good way to virulize it.
Salut! to Dodd, and thanks, Christy, for keepin’ us up to date.
And remember, all of this started before 9/11. Guess they didn’t manage to keep us safe on that one…
We need to make “Dodd’s speech” the viral Word O’the Day.
Going to update with this link at my homeblog now…spread the word, pups! Digg, Spotlight [haven’t seen anything yet on CNN], comment on Cafferty’s blog, email Tweety and KO and Brokaw/MTP, spread to Mr. Shieffer, recommend to HuffPo, email Mr. Rich…. work to be done…. fire up.
Prairie [there’s gotta be a nap in this day somewhere] Today: Big Oiiillll. Big Bad Oil.
I dunno - is removing North Korea from the terror watch list good or bad? A victory for Condi, and Cheney is against it, but what is the reality?
Homeland Homeland uber alles…..
Frank Luntz did a focus group years back (in the Gingrich era) and found that people had positive reactions to “Democratic Party” but negative or less positive ones to “Democrat Party”. They then set out on a deliberate campaign to train all their people to use the wrong name, for that slight advantage (and to be assholes), leaving Democrats with the unhelpful options of letting it go or weakening their own message by stopping to correct it.
How about Nader in protest. At least go left :-)
They do it deliberately as a word choice so that “democrat” sounds jarring to the ear. It’s a Frank Luntz special…
So it is time to find out just what phrases/context they are monitoring.
prolly some “Pioneer” or “Ranger” who would benefit immensely if the embargo were lifted - it’s all about “the commerce” with this cabal
Remember when you misbehaved in school as a child and they shouted “THIS.WILL.GO.IN.YOUR.PERMANENT.RECORD!” ?
FISA is an Obomination !
It is the nuke industry that wants to build their damn polluting power plants…. says he from the shadow of Seabrook.
It’s a slur to disavow the lexical adjective implication of actually being “democratic.”
viva Clamshell Alliance !!!
(yep, I’m that old :D)
Except if you are an applicant for hiring at the DOJ - in which case, ‘your permanent record’ only lasts until the IG wants to investigate. Then, it gets weeded.
bwahahahahahaha….oh my. Cue shrill shrieking from crazy Pam in 5…4…3…
Gosh, do you think we were in prison together?
my 53 was for you - more coffee
Hi, wb. I’ve been hit or miss here lately. Any word on (((Quaker Girl)))?
What Bobby said. Next time someone says it, refer to them as the republic party and see the reaction. I have done it a few times and they stopped with the slur.
we were all so disappointed when they arrested, handcuffed and took us all to jail at Diablo Canyon (I sat behind Martin Sheen) - but released us all without a record
Wait, wait! Help me understand how a vote for Bob Barr helps America. I am not being snarky.
I received a response from Obama yesterday to an email in which he called the FISA bill an “imperfect compromise” but one he would support. I no longer support Obama.
I also received a reply from Dick Durbin. He said he was against telecom immunity but studiously avoided saying whether he would vote against the bill (he probably will) or participate in a filibuster of it (he probably won’t).
I haven’t been on as much lately so I have no idea. I just send her lots of love, peace and light.
mercy!
I didn’t realize you were hardened criminal!
Christy, now that Rockridge is defunct, do you know what George Lakoff is up to now? He is the Dems best hope in framing and messaging, IMO.
Sorry to hear that but I understand your disappointment. I’m also very disappointed but it is more than one issue for me. I, we as a nation cannot and will not survive under John McCain
They even use it in written communication, I’ve rec’d replies from my rep Virginia Foxx (ych) referencing SCHIP as the “democrat bill”.
I was a guest of John Sununu for an overnight. He was bought and paid for by the nuke industry and went on to become a whore for bush1.
Gotta go and do hously duties
just got off the phone after a long conversation with a volunteer at the obama campaign.
read him obama’s statement in sc among other things (from casual_observer at glenn’s)
i promised not to quote him, but i will say the entire conversation was not encouraging.
also - my phone call was picked up on the first ring.
Pretty sure he has another book coming out…beyond that, though, I don’t know.
From Wikipedia:
Democrat Party (phrase)
Seems valid to me. Like Canada Geese. Have a 2-4 for me, eh?
keep up the good work Selise. I’ll call as well (when I’m done for the day at the Food Bank) and put some pressure on as well. We have to keep those feet to the fire - keep them all accountable to the american people
Tol’ ya.
it’s a slur. they do it on purpose. they have been called on the carper for it too (one of the members of congress made a comment on the floor–forget who)
and yes, I called Senator Dodd’s office this morning to thank him for so eloquently doing the right thing.
also called Boxer and DiFi to civilly remind them that that is how a Patriot acts
BTW the Senate confirmed the FEC nominees:
http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin.....e-FEC.html
I was wondering too…have been thinking of her. But sadly, hospice is for very short-term situations (my cousin was in hospice care) and it is very likely she has left us. We’ll keep her memory in our hearts, but I suspect no relatives would think to let a blog know.
We need to get Dodd on MSM in order for other than the CSPAN and progressive blog ‘choir’ can hear him. Can’t he and Feingold and the other supporters call a press conference, or pull what the Got Ours, Pissoff crowd like to call a stunt? If they ask viewers to pummel Reid and a few other key senators with calls, faxes and emails, do you think the public would respond? Somehow we need to get the mass of undereducated citizens educated and involved. Fast!
Well said, Madison and wigwam.
Republicans think we are cowards. Are we cowards? As your Republican friends if they think they are cowards…
Obama is a fucking liar. There was no “compromise.” The Republicans and the White House got everything they’ve been asking for. Glenzilla has amply and repeatedly documented this fact this past week.
I’m acquainted with these slights, but still there are cases where you supposed to say democrat rather than democratic.
Never, never, never take any option off the table. Pelosi not fit to be commander-in-chief….maybe that’s why she took impeachment off the table. She knew she’d be unfit to serve.
O/T: via LA Times
bastards…mother nature is not going to take much more of dicking the planet around
What about protests at Obama headquarters all over the country? Sit ins? Signs? If we got the press involved, would he wake up and take notice??
yep.
that was one of my questions to the campaign volunteer: “do you think this bill is a compromise?”
there is:
democrat : refers to someone affiliation to the party (he is a democrat)
democratic: is the proper name of the party (the Democratic Party)
And the Supreme Court in a 5-3 decision cut punitive damages for the Exxon Valdez disaster down to $500 million from $2.5 billion.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin.....ref=slogin
It also decided 5-4 that capital punishment for child rape is cruel and unusual punishment.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin.....pe.html?hp
Did you read James Hanson’s interview, or hear him on Diane Rehm? He is to the point of bringing crimes against humanity charges against Big Oil execs….
I call these clowns “Repu’ublicists.” My insinuative epithet alluding to their philosophically kindred Ba’athists. That’s also why I refer to Bu’ush and McBu’ush the way I do.
I am a Democrat. But the party is the Democratic party. I vote democratic. Any time the reference is to the Democrat party, it is a deliberate slur.
Good morning all,
I heard recently that Obama said, “I don’t do cowering.”
That is good.
There has been far too much cowering going on amongst the d’s.
Now, how about ‘cowarding’?
It is possible that Obama is NOT really serious about ‘change’ we can actually see and feel.
However, We are!
Especially we ‘aging agitators’.
Obama and every other politician would do well to remember that ‘reality’ …
Our patience has been sorely tried.
POLITICAL WARNING to ‘POLITICIANS’: Do not … repeat … DO NOT ‘believe’, for even an instant, that there will NOT be very serious consequence for those who play the ‘Same Old, Same Old …’
Obama, the ball is in YOUR court, you are said to be a ‘team’ player who is willing to share the ball, that’s good, but as captain of the team, you have to demonstrate that you know what to do with that ball …
always a possibility but I’m not foolish enough to say i withdraw my support from his campaign….McCain is not an alternative folks….keep that in mind (it has tempered but not diluted my disappointment/anger)
Is Chicago ‘68 convention a-brewin’, anew?
QuakerGirl rose is about to bloom second flower. FWIW
that’s a great idea. if the bill does get delayed until after july 4th, the holiday weekend would be a great time to do this. and don’t forget to bring flyers explaining what you are doing and why.
I read this speech this morning before leaving for work.
I was wondering what would happen if we enlarged a bit on his point about ignoring laws that are inconvenient or that we don’t like. Ask the senators what would happen if we-the-people did the same thing and stopped paying taxes - or credit card bills - because we don’t feel like following those laws.
I bet that would get their attention. Then hit them with the question:
how is that different from what the WH has been doing?
I haven’t read the article or heard the interview. I will have to check it out (thanks for the heads up)
Exxon probably spent more than that in legal fees fighting the case
b*stards
The punitive was originally five billion, so it’s now been decimated (reduced to 10%).
GOOD Morning Redd Sunshine!
1. Himself woke up with a headache, and we forgot to take out the garbage - for the 2nd week in a row. (excuse: we’ve painted a whole lotta walls, and things are lookin’ purty here, if you ignore all the piled-up stuff for Goodwill et al). Pretty much looked like a normal morning, as I glared quickly at the silent tv and marched past.
Little did I know!?!
2. After weeding a bit & picking up the newspaper - nope, nothin’ there, ‘cept s’more poor souls were killed in the EyeRack occupation, dammit.
3. F-i-n-a-l-l-y get around to the Lake and, WHOOOOOOOT!?!
I’m helplessly, hopelessly in love with Lake dwellers and Senator Dodd all over again!
He felt our strength at his back, didn’t he!?!
You better believe I’ll write him [another] happy-gram.
Hey, all you nay-sayers who want to dump ALL the politicians.
Your assignment today is to read and reread Dodd’s speech.
Dodd’s what I mean by a “Keeper”.
Good on ya’ Senator Dodd, Christy, Jane, and everyone.
Now, I assume we keep the pressure on?
I’m thinking a few hundred letters to the editor wouldn’t hurt either. The print news is still snoozing through this fight. That won’t do. ;->
very clever. I may have to cop that (of course giving credit where it is due)
Perhaps the distinction between “compromise” and “capitulate” is overly subtle for the minds of Democratic leaders.
Hope you take a pic and let the rest of us have a peek *g*
Good Morning Christy,
I am more than willing to compromise any rights I have that haven’t been paid for with the blood of our forefathers, other than those skip it.
different people are going to have different responses to this betrayal. i beg you that we do not condemn anyone for their thoughtful response.
let’s strive for unity of purpose while acknowledging that we will never have unity of tactics unless we resort to a top down authoritarian directive.
I wouldn’t disagree with the usages suggested. I thought I’d intimated as much, but there it is.