45 years ago, President John F. Kennedy gave a speech in Berlin. (text and video at the link) He gave it 22 months after the East German government closed the border and began building a permanent wall around West Berlin, 18 years after the Soviets tried and failed to strangle West Berlin with a blockade.
Kennedy did not mince words on that day in Berlin. Pointing to the steadfast witness of the people of Berlin to the power of freedom, as they defiantly stood up against the authoritarian power of the communist east, Kennedy used a single phrase again and again to challenge those who would sell out freedom one little bit at a time:
There are many people in the world who really don’t understand, or say they don’t, what is the great issue between the free world and the Communist world.
Let them come to Berlin.
There are some who say — There are some who say that communism is the wave of the future.
Let them come to Berlin.
And there are some who say, in Europe and elsewhere, we can work with the Communists.
Let them come to Berlin.
And there are even a few who say that it is true that communism is an evil system, but it permits us to make economic progress.
Lass’ sie nach Berlin kommen. Let them come to Berlin.
Freedom has many difficulties and democracy is not perfect. But we have never had to put a wall up to keep our people in — to prevent them from leaving us. . .
And up until recently, we had never thought it necessary to sacrifice the freedom from warrantless searches enshrined in the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution, either.
In this FISA fight, with the Bush Administration’s push for retroactive immunity for the telecoms that illegally cooperated with the BushCo’s unconstitutional warrantless wiretapping, Steny Hoyer and the other watercarriers for the Bush Administration might want to heed Kennedy’s words, adjusted just a wee bit. Perhaps what they need is a Congressional fact finding tour . . .
There are many people in the nation who really don’t understand, or say they don’t, what is the great issue between the patriots in Congress and those pushing for a monarchical presidency.
Let them go to Berlin.
There are some who say that a monarchical presidency is the wave of the future.
Let them go to Berlin.
And there are some who say, in Congress and elsewhere, we can work with the monarchical presidency.
Let them go to Berlin.
And there are even a few who say that it is true that a monarchical presidency is an evil system, but it permits us to make economic progress.
Lass’ sie nach Berlin gehen. Let them go to Berlin.
Freedom has many difficulties and democracy is not perfect. But we have never — never in over 200 years, never until BushCo took office — tried to sell off part of the Bill of Rights and call it "protecting freedom." Orwell would be proud.
Go to Berlin, Steny Hoyer, and take the other spineless members of the House Democratic Leadership with you.
Go to Berlin, Chris Carney and John Barrow, and take the other toothless members of the House Bush Dog caucus with you.
Go to Berlin, Jay Rockefeller, and take the rest of the Democrats in the Senate with you who are afraid to stand up against Bush or your donors, for fear of losing your jobs.
Go to Berlin, all of you, and look at that reunified and free city. Go to Berlin, and see how those who stood up on behalf of freedom have triumphed. Those of us who fight on behalf of the Fourth Amendment against these odious FISA amendments are fighting a similar battle for freedom. Instead of a wall, we stand up against unreasonable, unchallengeable, and unconstitutional searches. It’d be nice if you stood up, too.
45 years ago tomorrow, Kennedy said this to a cheering crowd freely gathered to hear him:
So let me ask you, as I close, to lift your eyes beyond the dangers of today, to the hopes of tomorrow, beyond the freedom merely of this city of Berlin, or your country of Germany, to the advance of freedom everywhere, beyond the wall to the day of peace with justice, beyond yourselves and ourselves to all mankind.
Freedom is indivisible, and when one man is enslaved, all are not free. When all are free, then we look — can look forward to that day when this city will be joined as one and this country and this great Continent of Europe in a peaceful and hopeful globe. When that day finally comes, as it will, the people of West Berlin can take sober satisfaction in the fact that they were in the front lines for almost two decades.
All free men, wherever they may live, are citizens of Berlin.
And, therefore, as a free man, I take pride in the words "Ich bin ein Berliner."
In 1989, that day came to the people of Berlin, and they have never forgotten it. With JFK, I proudly claim that I am a Berliner.
Senators, you too can make that claim. All you have to do is follow the lead of Chris Dodd and Russ Feingold. (Senator Obama, it would be nice to see you first in line behind them.)
But Steny and you Bush Dogs, don’t you fret. We Berliners haven’t forgotten about you. Hope you like your ad tomorrow, and all the ads to come.
UPDATE: Senate Cloture vote passes 80-15.




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Great post Peterr!
Vote tally here on the motion to end debate.
Here are the fifteen who voted to keep the debate going:
NAYs
Biden (D-DE)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Wyden (D-OR)
And then there were five who did not vote:
Byrd (D-WV)
Clinton (D-NY)
Kennedy (D-MA)
McCain (R-AZ)
Obama (D-IL)
Kennedy and Byrd I can understand, for health reasons. Obama, McCain, and Clinton do not impress me by their absence.
18:42: The motion to invoke cloture on the motion to proceed to H.R.6304 – FISA, was
PASSED on a 80-15 vote
NAY Votes: Biden, Boxer, Brown, Cantwell, Dodd, Durbin, Feingold, Harkin, Kerry, Lautenberg, Leahy, Menendez, Sanders, Schumer, and Wyden
Wonderful post, Peterr.. I remember watching the wall come down in ‘89 and many of my fellow liberals knew the next wall would be built around us, by us. And we knew the Nixon / Reagan crowd were the very folks hell bent on making it happen. Today the modern wall just got a lot higher and lot thicker. Only places like Palestine and Iraq know where things are truly headed, if we let our Senators have their way.
And to emphasize a point that some don’t get, when you read “the motion to end debate,” the precise question being debated at this moment, under post-cloture conditions (e.g., the 30 hour clock, no Senator may speak for more than one hour) is “Should we proceed to the consideration of H.R.6034?”
The question is NOT “Should we pass H.R.6034?”
Remind me again what is the difference between the Republican and Democratic Parties?
Digg it, firedogs.
How many (R)’s did you see on that list?
At least some of the Democrats are making an effort.
Peterr, thank you.
wow, i’m flabbergasted.
brown-d ohio
i can’t believe it, i really can’t!!!!!!!!!!
i talked at length with two different people two different days, specific points, even called back a few times when i thought of more, oh my, i can’t believe his vote.
from what i heard the other day, that’s not the way he was going……..good. too bad he didn’t influence reps charlie wilson and zach space more.
sherrod will get a call tomorrow and so will the others.
and i wish jfk would have been around to see his portentous words about berlin come true. twice.
thanks, peterr.
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i don’t know why clinton wasn’t there, but she was yesterday and there’s no mincing her specific and PUBLIC words and statements about this bill.
wish she would have voted and used that big stick instead of just tapping and poking with it…….
Not really OT, but the WSJ gave Jane some prominence wrt to the FISA Fight:
Digby has more on why we work to elect progressive dems — and why it’s not simply tilting at windmills. There isn’t a good piece to snip out . . . click through for the whole thing.
It doesn’t mean a thing when it’s a cosmetic vote. I would say look at how many Democrats aren’t on that list. (Hint: a big majority of them)
Oh oh. Tweety just called Osama Obama…
Good piece, Peterr.
who would have thought that it would be the progressive blogosphere pushing for the rule of law?
This latest excrement of Dem capitulation just sends me over the edge. Steny must go. Jello Jay must go.
Not just more Democrats, but much much better Democrats.
Now.
Ich bin ein Amerikaner!
Fuck the neocons!
Obama would have voted on this but he was too busy leading to lead.
Extremely moving and powerful post, Peterr. Thank you.
As an AR Democrat, not one Republican challenger in any of the House or Senate races this year… even in the Primary. Not one Democrat challenging the only congressional Republican in the state. (a horrible Bush bot, John Boozeman)
So I will be voting for Obama for president, but I will be voting Green on every other option in Nov.
Enough!
there are about 30 democrats and 2 republicans in the house of representatives who fought this. 30 is greater than 2.
i’m sorry that’s all i have. i’ve been watching all day and really don’t know what to say.
i know this wasn’t THE vote, but it took big steel balls to vote nay on this one……..they stood out naked, only fifteen of them……..what balls. i remember using the word cajones in one phone call…….yep. and how i was proud to work for the phone company, how i knew the rules and how every single one of them should be charged for what they did…….and are doing now. they are criminals and they knew what they were doing was illegal.
looking at that list, i feel like i’m cheering for the freshmen on the small school div 3 rural team playing the div 1 state champs, about how great they hung in there by only getting outscored by 90 instead of 100.
but that’s ok, they played a good game, and i am proud of what they did today. it took courage.
the ones that didn’t even try to get play cuz they would lose or had a bet on the winners? smash bam splat…….belly whopper. they won’t be carried around on anyone’s shoulders.
Very inspiring Peterr!
Give me Liberty or give me
deathguarantees that I will be safe from all threats, real or imagined. ~Stenyi’m not sure i will be voting for obama. if i had to decide right now, i wouldn’t.
And more Jane quotes over at Politico.com:
But at the same place, Markos is all about splitting the baby:
So I repeat, our wayward Democratic Congressional Leadership believes:
Power trumps principle!
This is a good day to be a jelly donut.
Re; the Housing Bill. There some serious crap lurking…Games within Games..
Senate Housing Bill to Require Collecting of Online Payment Information
http://techliberation.com/2008…..formation/
STENY MUST GO – he must step down as “leader”. his kind of leadership we do not need.
Thanks for clarifying. your comments really help tons and are much appreciated!
that’s just bullshit.
that’s how we never weld any power within the party.
are you happy or mad? I’s so confused at this point, with up meaning down, and superstructure of the MSM.
Brown of OH voted WITH Feingold, Dodd et al.
Please help me understand why you are so upset at HIM only, if indeed anyone allied with them. They are bedrock for us, are they not?!
Please rant slowly so a tired old lady can understand. Your anger does not make sense to me.
Can’t argue with your decision.. since I know you or other disappointed progressives won’t vote for McCain.
Pelosi too.
ES, why don’t you run in 2010? It’s unacceptable that there are no dems running. We’ll get your back!
i just want to point out that 2008 is not 2000 – there is now a majority of dems in congress and that majority is expected to grow substantially. if the dems would do their job, they could protect us from the excesses of a mccain presidency. this risk of voting third party in 2008 should not be the same as in 2000 when the republicans controlled congress.
unless you believe that the dems in congress are completely useless. yeah, i know – this is where my argument falls down.
i wish pelosi was at the top of the list to get rid of.
… and of course i would NEVER vote for mcsame. i’m considering a third party protest vote.
dmac!!!!!!!!!
Are you ranting or cheering for Brown?! Please!!!
It’s important to me, okay?!
If ranting, and not doing likewise to Dodd, explain that too!
Puleeze! I wish to get a little sleep tonight.
1,684 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Kevster:
We don’t jest need more and better Dems we need more and better REAL Democrats…in addition we need to hold the existin’ elected leadership’s feet ta the fire. Where are those die-hard supporters of the junior senator from NY askin’ her where the hell is her leadership on the FISA bill?? I’m not gunna ask Obama ta pull his pants down on the floor of the Senate only ta be abandoned by the corporatist Dems led by she who should be forever nameless while they run chucklin’ ta the bank with the telecom money. No Kevster, we need more and better REAL Democrats and should start by puttin the heat on those who supported the corporatist candidate…we’re seein’ the battle for control of the new Democratic Party and Obama needs to concentrate on the political calculus that will allow him to govern if those who lost the nomination for President end up leadin the party in the Congress.
Look for the married couple from New York ta try and double their personal fortunes at the expense of Obama’s first term. My money is still on Obama, he ain’t stupid and ultimately, the only way he gets the money and the votes ta win and ta govern is from the grassroots machine he has created…he can’t sell out ta corporate money ‘cuz they will then eat him alive and he knows it!
KEEP THE FAITH AND REMEMBER YOU HAVE A LOT MORE POWER IN YER PUNCHES THAN YA THINK!!
In the February Senate votes on FISA, 29 senators voted against it. To the group who voted against cloture listed above, note these folks who changed their minds to vote YEA today:
Akaka – HI
Bingamen – NM
Cardin – MD
Dorgan – ND
Feinstein – CA
Klobuchar – MN
Levin – MI
Murray – WA
Reid – RI
Reed – NV
Stabenow – MI
Tester – MT
(Byrd and Kennedy also voted NAY in February, but are medically out of things right now.)
These folks need to be leaned on, as well as others like Sheldon Whitehouse, Obama, and Clinton.
Wonderful post, Peterr. Thank you!
I can’t stand wearing ties in summer. /s
In 2006 I voted for as many, if not more, Greens than I did Democrats.
I voted for the Green Party candidate over DiFi, even though to this day I can’t remember his or her name, but don’t regret doing so
I know they aren’t as busy.. but it’s refreshing to maila question to each and every Green and get a personal reply..a reply that makes me stand up, cheer, and send money.
Wow, I’m amazed at all the Obama ‘venting’ going on…
There are games within games and they are in full swing..
You know Rove and Co are laughing their arses off at us..
The Repugs apparently don’t need to destroy the ‘threat’ of Barak, we are doing it for them…
Fact, Barak comes from solid progressive roots.
He is a very smart political player.
There is huge stuff going on in the background…We may need to refocus a bit..
(((love you all, my fellow attack pups)))):)
Would SOMEONE please explain what dmac might have meant by targeting Brown at #10??? Did Brown vote with the Dodd crew or not? I EXPECTED him to. dmac apparently totally missed it, or I did.
I’d love some clarification from SOMEONE, ANYONE!
And this “huge stuff” would be?
ummmmmmm adie at 10, passion is passion, a two way street, passion is not always anger!!! in fact, if i’m pissed, i make it pretty clear, so, pretty much take my comments on the other end of the passion scale unless i am saying otherwise. i am usually specific when those times come.
you, passionate adie, outta know about passion, it spits out of you in a rant that can be mistaken for anger….. : )
i said in the middle of it, good…..and that i wished he would have influenced wilson and space–who voted for this mess.
i thought you knew by now i’m not an anger-monger by nature.
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
I am especialy unhappy about Tester and Webb,
having contributed to both of them.
I think she’s cheering Brown. She spoke with his people at least twice, and he hadn’t committed. Then he voted against cloture along with our heros.
When RoveCo gets Steny Hoyer to carry their water for them, you can be sure the GOP is laughing.
While it is true that Obama “comes from solid progressive roots,” it would be nice to see some ripe progressive fruit come from that tree, like stepping up in defense of the Fourth Amendment.
(And you might want to spell his name properly: Barack)
citizen norske: since winning the nomination, obama spoken as a right winger before aipac, taken on the rubin economic team, taken on the clinton foreign policy team, is backing the congressmember howie calls the most reactionary in the congress…. and after all this i was still willing to support him.
but this fisa capitulation is just too much. i don’t know if supporting obama makes sense any more.
Listen to Senator Reid close the Senate
The Housing Bill is deferred to “after recess,” and therefore is no longer a foil delaying consideration of FISA or any other bill.
yes, adie at 44, chill, brown voted with dodd, but as of yesterday that’s not what i was hearing from different people at his office…..so, i was a little surprised to say the least………
what the heck is your deal tonight? i was happy about it. reread what i said.
i then said how proud i was of all of them in my next comment, so quit drawing attention to me please, i didn’t say anything wrong.
what the hell…….
Ian’s upstairs with more on the FISA vote.
with all due respect, i don’t think it’s me destroying obama – he’s doing that all by himself.
am not saying you shouldn’t support him. if you want to, please do – with my support and blessing. i’m just not sure i’m going to be.
thanks loo hoo…….
Barry The Privacy Slayer could have stood up last Friday for the Constitution. Instead, he lay down for those seeking to destroy the Fourth Amendment and replace it with corporate immunity — as well as immunity for the Bushies and Dem “leaders” who were complicit in massive and sustained violations of criminal law.
For this, Barry — the former Constitutional Law lecturer — deserves our lasting contempt. His naked ambition compels the Smiling SUit to seek the highest Federal elected office sworn to uphold the Constitution. His choices demonstrate he will corrode the Constitution in pursuit of Power.
I do not have words to describe my contempt and revulsion for him and the other ambitious Federal pols who gut the Constitution so they may feast with Power. He is a willing servant of the megacorps who seek to overthrow democracy infavor of oligarchy. His actions re FISA are despicable: as is he.
I thought the whole rationale for Reid’s playing games with FISA was precisely to get the housing bill done before the break. With Democrats capitulating right and left, it is getting hard to keep straight which reason to cave goes where.
We need to call Clinton’s office and ask why she did not vote on this. Phone: (202) 224-4451
If anyone gets an explanation please post it here
Good piece.
One interesting thing is that no-fly, no boating lists are moving towards being exit visas. And the US is building a wall…
crap
on verge of more passion, but controlled. thanks for reply.
So, this means he voted WITH the Dodd Whitehouse crowd, but you’re kinda disappointed he didn’t influence some others to come along?
Do I have it right, pretty much?
p.s., although very experienced at ‘legislaturing’, Brown is a rookie Senator, right? Please to be positive when you make that proposed call tomorrow.
Semi apologies for rant. I am sick and tired of people painting with too broad a brush when in smack-down mode with good/so-o-/bad mixture of legislators in their sights, and I might have read you wrong, or…. not.
P. E. A. C. E.
What I’ve been watching. It’s really quite systematic.
yes. i realize that now. i expected Brown always to do his homework and to follow his best judgement for the best of the country he serves, even though i never personally met the man.
i have abundant experience viewing from afar as Brown has worked his way up through the ranks in OH, the on to the national arena.
in my mind, he’s a “Keeper” if ever there was one. We in OH have learned to trust his judgment AND his word.
dmac was loose enough with wording, and emotionally exercised enough, that i simply couldn’t tell what her reaction was, positive or negative.
Strong recommendation: ANyone who calls or writes Brown, please treat him and his staff with respect and not bother to try strong-arming him. He’s one of the good guys, as far as I and my fellow progressive Ohioans can tell, going on decades now, very approachable, and without ego problems.
Thanks Loo Hoo. I really appreciate your steady hand today. ;->
My friend Al, who I’ve mentioned before once or twice, was an Earl Warren Republican.
Al’s father was a farmer in San Jose when most of the town was whatever they used to grow a lot of in San Jose before it became what it is now. Al is an enrolled tax agent which means he can represent you as an individual or corp. in front of the IRS, and over the years he’s had several Fortune 500 type clients. I’ve never seen him not wearing a suit. Al is as buttoned down and conservative as they come.
He became so incensed with what the Republicans … and Democrats have done, that he’s now a registered Green
and adie, i’m on dial-up, it takes a while to keep up, and if i’m commenting, it takes longer.
plus, i was doing something else inbetween.
And the wall around us is going up– to keep “illegal immigrants”, i.e., cheap labor, out.
Who are the people who like walls?
Lou Dobbs?
Who else?
Let them go to Berlin.
Bob in HI
dmac, perhaps i was hasty, on edge. who isn’t these days?
sources sparking my concern (from your #)10:
I hope you get to meet Sen. Sherrod Brown one of these days.
No problem. We’re all frazzled these days. Brown was flamed, and me to, for speaking in his favor during his Senatorial campaign. So I’m still smarting from that and, no doubt, over-reacted. Some then questioned him as a true progressive, and he was dropped by BlueAmerica as a result of their pressure, as far as I can figure. Thank heaven, he was elected anyway.
Apologies for the fuss.
um adie at 61, i don’t quite understand what you’re saying…….i have been making calls and writing letters for a long time now, i was taught to do that when young..i actually wrote carolyn keene/mr. nancy drew when in grade school, that might have been my first letter….i don’t ’smack down’ anyone, i state what i want to state, with facts usually. even when i call radio shows, same thing……my nickname here is infolady and ladyliberty, given to me by regulars……so, i guess i don’t quite understand the lecture and think it’s misplaced if aimed at me. i post a lot of things about calls and letters and don’t ever remember stating anything that would give you that impression of me…….so, maybe you’re mixing me up with someone else.
and i pretty much believe that anyone can call and say whatever the hell they want however they want, but i’ve found that civility and facts work pretty well for me. you get more information to use later that way.
and it’s not my fault or my responsibility that you read my comment wrong and reacted to it…….
and no, i’m not angry now, just confused and wondering how i got in the middle of this in the first place just because you didn’t understand what i posted, when all i was saying was ’good job’ ’i’m proud of them’………
and sherrod, although a good man, isn’t perfect, he’s got a few things that i’m not so happy about, the mca among them.
and he didn’t state his vote until he voted today, and that was chickenshit as hell……..but i’m glad he voted nay. and i’ll tell him that.
Thanks from me also, cboldt.
Great to have your knowledge here.
adie at 67, you need glasses hon, check out my last section–the part that said, good.
and adie, even if what you thought was true, and isn’t, i’m entitled to my own opinion…….that’s not up to you.
that belongs to me and is my right.
adie at 68–that’s ok, but sometimes you jump to the punch a little quick when it comes to sherrod, and he’s just a man adie, human………
and i’m in your corner, that’s why i was a little shocked at your comments. maybe you’re working too hard and need to enjoy that nature preserve a little more babe.
i’m directly involved with issues and politics, i don’t need you to ride my ass or call me out about what i need to do or how i should think. ok?
you keep saying you raised independent thinkers, you want me to be any less?
didn’t think so.
I agree with most of what you say.
I was trained in ethology and scientific writing (published) so maybe too easily concerned by loopholes I find potentially damaging, or at least confusing.
I’m too picky, and not worth the salt to sprinkle on the wounds. Okay?
P. E. A. C. E.
Oppps, big sorry on the spelling. Thanks :)
Peterr, your posts are such an enrichment to FDL. (We suffer from an embarrassment of riches here, don’t we?)
My next email to Sen. Obama will have to include a reference to this post. Thanks for the inspiration! :)