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	<title>Comments on: The Pending FISA bill &#8212; It&#8217;s Worse Than I Thought</title>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/23/the-pending-fisa-bill-its-worse-than-i-thought/#comment-1511798</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;boo at 295–i’m not an obama mama…….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;my candidate dropped out.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;agree with the rest of it……..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>boo at 295–i’m not an obama mama…….</p>
<p>my candidate dropped out.</p>
<p>agree with the rest of it……..</p>
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		<title>By: libbyliberal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/23/the-pending-fisa-bill-its-worse-than-i-thought/#comment-1511675</link>
		<dc:creator>libbyliberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A good read and love the links. Thank you all above. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Am calling and calling senators about this.  Like I called the reps before this.  Encouraging my network to do the same.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Loved George Carlin’s link — helped me process some anger and frustration. God bless him! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Any listing of what senators besides the higher profile ones on this are on the pro list and who is on the con list?  Would be helpful.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Love Feingold. When I watched old Frank Capra films… and grooved on say the Jimmy Stewart character… I didn’t know just how unique the noble guy was in life.  The standup guy or woman.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good read and love the links. Thank you all above. </p>
<p>Am calling and calling senators about this.  Like I called the reps before this.  Encouraging my network to do the same.</p>
<p>Loved George Carlin’s link — helped me process some anger and frustration. God bless him! </p>
<p>Any listing of what senators besides the higher profile ones on this are on the pro list and who is on the con list?  Would be helpful.</p>
<p>Love Feingold. When I watched old Frank Capra films… and grooved on say the Jimmy Stewart character… I didn’t know just how unique the noble guy was in life.  The standup guy or woman.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/23/the-pending-fisa-bill-its-worse-than-i-thought/#comment-1511672</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And Russ Feingold will not filibuster it either: WASHINGTON - “Wisconsin Sen. Russ Feingold will not filibuster a compromise version of an electronic surveillance program although he thinks it will infringe on U.S. citizens’ civil liberties.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Feingold said he and other Senate opponents won’t try to stop the vote, but they ‘won’t allow it to pass quickly.’”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the link:http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200880623141&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The attacks against Obama seem over-the-top to me.  Sorry he can’t reverse this travesty while a nominee, and while he’s at it, reverse all the other terrible ills of which this FISA bill is only one.  But to call for “drying up his funding” as I’ve seen on Emptywheel’s site by looseheadprop and others  is to cut off your nose to spite your face.  As bad as it is (and the spying has been going on for, what, now 30 years?), there is a forest to look at, not just one tree.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Russ Feingold will not filibuster it either: WASHINGTON &#8211; “Wisconsin Sen. Russ Feingold will not filibuster a compromise version of an electronic surveillance program although he thinks it will infringe on U.S. citizens’ civil liberties.</p>
<p>Feingold said he and other Senate opponents won’t try to stop the vote, but they ‘won’t allow it to pass quickly.’”</p>
<p>the link:http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200880623141</p>
<p>The attacks against Obama seem over-the-top to me.  Sorry he can’t reverse this travesty while a nominee, and while he’s at it, reverse all the other terrible ills of which this FISA bill is only one.  But to call for “drying up his funding” as I’ve seen on Emptywheel’s site by looseheadprop and others  is to cut off your nose to spite your face.  As bad as it is (and the spying has been going on for, what, now 30 years?), there is a forest to look at, not just one tree.</p>
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		<title>By: peony</title>
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		<dc:creator>peony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 04:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“the monstrosity of a law we passed yesterday will not stand…”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;David Davis, Tory MP&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you for the link, sporkovat.  The contrast with “our” politicians couldn’t be more stark.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“the monstrosity of a law we passed yesterday will not stand…”</p>
<p>David Davis, Tory MP</p>
<p>Thank you for the link, sporkovat.  The contrast with “our” politicians couldn’t be more stark.</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/23/the-pending-fisa-bill-its-worse-than-i-thought/#comment-1511458</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;BooRadley and selise.  You speak wisdom that calms the nerves.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Re not reading bills: agreed.  I used to blame that on repugs’ habitual midnight delivery the things.  That excuse won’t work now.  It’s pretty obvious leadership decides behind closed doors, strong-arms the lesser beings on the floor, and has their way.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s way beyond what Molly Ivins proudly used to call “messy”. Now it’s by far too neat and packaged by a few K-street powerbrokers. dang.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gotta go for sure.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jammies: check&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kitty cradled over the shoulder &amp; buzzing: check&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Night guys.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BooRadley and selise.  You speak wisdom that calms the nerves.</p>
<p>Re not reading bills: agreed.  I used to blame that on repugs’ habitual midnight delivery the things.  That excuse won’t work now.  It’s pretty obvious leadership decides behind closed doors, strong-arms the lesser beings on the floor, and has their way.</p>
<p>It’s way beyond what Molly Ivins proudly used to call “messy”. Now it’s by far too neat and packaged by a few K-street powerbrokers. dang.</p>
<p>Gotta go for sure.</p>
<p>Jammies: check</p>
<p>Kitty cradled over the shoulder &amp; buzzing: check</p>
<p>Night guys.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thanks for the kind words. i think we all try to do what we can.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don’t think we’re in a 100% agreement on tactics&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;that’s ok - maybe even a good thing. to me unity is about unity of purpose - not unity of tactics, so long as the tactics chosen aren’t immoral (for example: killing, bombing, etc).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the kind words. i think we all try to do what we can.</p>
<blockquote><p>I don’t think we’re in a 100% agreement on tactics</p>
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<p>that’s ok &#8211; maybe even a good thing. to me unity is about unity of purpose &#8211; not unity of tactics, so long as the tactics chosen aren’t immoral (for example: killing, bombing, etc).</p>
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		<title>By: BooRadley</title>
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		<dc:creator>BooRadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OT, one of the many terrific points you made on just this thread was that you don’t think they even read the bills. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think that’s exactly the case.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT, one of the many terrific points you made on just this thread was that you don’t think they even read the bills. </p>
<p>I think that’s exactly the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Night guys.  Thanks for all the hard work you’re all doing.  Tomorrow the sun will come up, whatever.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For now, I’m swacked zausted, but we keep making the house just a little more sellable every day.  And our hummingbird fledgelings survived the recent hailstorms, with a little help from mommaAdie’s nectar. ;-&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;P. E. A. C. E.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Night guys.  Thanks for all the hard work you’re all doing.  Tomorrow the sun will come up, whatever.</p>
<p>For now, I’m swacked zausted, but we keep making the house just a little more sellable every day.  And our hummingbird fledgelings survived the recent hailstorms, with a little help from mommaAdie’s nectar. ;-&gt;</p>
<p>P. E. A. C. E.</p>
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		<title>By: BooRadley</title>
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		<dc:creator>BooRadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I completely agree. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What has killed me is to see Republicans do what they used to accuse Democrats of. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think there are some signs of hope. Corzine in NJ is slashing the state budget. I think if liberals/progressives use our intelligence, we can find ways to use the right pressure points where Congress is sensitive.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree. </p>
<p>What has killed me is to see Republicans do what they used to accuse Democrats of. </p>
<p>I think there are some signs of hope. Corzine in NJ is slashing the state budget. I think if liberals/progressives use our intelligence, we can find ways to use the right pressure points where Congress is sensitive.</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;okay.  thanks. *sigh*&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ve fwded links to LHP’s post here, plus one of her source links to Sen. Sherrod Brown, since he told me in e-mail that he and staff are reviewing the thing.  I don’t expect much.  I just want him to know info like this, and WE, are out here watching every move they make.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He normally seems a very sharp, dedicated guy.  It makes you wonder just what all the varied forces are that operate in D.C. ethers.  We’re definitely not breathing the same air.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay.  thanks. *sigh*</p>
<p>I’ve fwded links to LHP’s post here, plus one of her source links to Sen. Sherrod Brown, since he told me in e-mail that he and staff are reviewing the thing.  I don’t expect much.  I just want him to know info like this, and WE, are out here watching every move they make.</p>
<p>He normally seems a very sharp, dedicated guy.  It makes you wonder just what all the varied forces are that operate in D.C. ethers.  We’re definitely not breathing the same air.</p>
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