It’s as though they put together a side by side interview with a thoughtful Warren Buffett protege and Glenn Beck’s drunken, more moronic twin. Just take a read:
What do you see as the gravest long-term threat to the U.S. economy?
Obama: If we don’t get a handle on our energy policy, it is possible that the kinds of trends we’ve seen over the last year will just continue. Demand is clearly outstripping supply. It’s not a problem we can drill our way out of. It can be a drag on our economy for a very long time unless we take steps to innovate and invest in the research and development that’s required to find alternative fuels. I think it’s very important for the federal government to have a role in that process.
Mccain: Well, I would think that the absolute gravest threat is the struggle that we’re in against Islamic extremism, which can affect, if they prevail, our very existence. Another successful attack on the United States of America could have devastating consequences. You’ve been a supporter of climate-change legislation that would essentially impose a penalty on the use of fossil fuel….
My favorite interpretation of this thus far comes from a commenter at Kevin Drum’s, Andy James, who says:
If you’ve read Our Dumb Century, you probably remember the Onion’s summary of the battle of messages in the 1980 campaign:
Carter: "Let’s Talk Better Mileage"
Reagan: "Kill the Bastards"It just continues, doesn’t it?
That pretty much sums it up, doesn’t it? Guess McCain didn’t get around to reading Alan Greenspan’s book yet so that he could understand economics, so he went with the Rudy Giuliani "repeat what scares the bejeebers out of the base" method of answering the questions. Or maybe he’d just had a Slurpee before the interview and got a case of brain freeze…except that the Beltway clique is buying the "scaaaaary terrah boogah booogah run RUN!!!!" malarky hook, line, and stinker. Strategery or dunce cap? You decide…
PS — Just a heads up: Russ Feingold will be a guest on Democracy Now! tomorrow morning around 8:00 am ET to discuss FISA. And Amy and David Goodman will be here at FDL at 3:00 pm ET/noon PT for a special book salon. Hope you’ll be there…
(YouTube — The Shiny Toy Guns sing a scary Halloween song on Yo, Gabba Gabba. Seemed to fit McCain’s mood…)
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What? I’m first!
hey I left a joke for you downstairs…
btw, The Republicans in the House have exploited every single opportunity when they speak to mention “drill” and “Pelosi premium”, it’s amazing how childish they can be. The one the
worst of the worsta really bad partisan, the Virginia Foxx (Blind Partisan-NC). I have now spotted Marsha Blackburn wandering about, so I am sure we will soon be treated to some of her hilarious oratory. It will be interesting to see how many times she uses PP.I was going to write on this because our governor, Butch, was talking about how we need to open the reserves, open up any area for drilling to relieve the “pain at the pump.” Didn’t say shit about pushing our level of ingenuity to foster new forms of energy or to get cracking on, just, other forms of energy. Same ole shit.
I want a prize damnit. Heading down – and then back to work.
Let me just say this at the top of the comments. I heard on the radio that Charlie (I heart ruthless dictators) Black say that another attack would be a campaign advantage for McCain. Creep.
I would like to nip that in the bud. Another attack would just mean that Bush failed AGAIN to keep America safe and would be PROOF POSITIVE that his new GWOT is FAILING.
/rant.
That your first zed? you always remember the first zed. That’s a prize in and of itself…
The stupid, it burns.
Is there such a thing as an intelligent Republican any more? Seriously, there are clever Republicans, devious Republicans, psychotic Republicans, and closeted Republicans. But smart Republicans? Not so much ….
Oil companies/Cheney/GOP to USA: You think you are screwed now?
The answer is to let us screw you some more!
Catch up on yer reading:
Nonzero: The Logic of Human Destiny
Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed
by Jared Diamond
The Origin of Wealth
by the way that Obama quote is the first thing I’ve heard him say that makes me think that maybe I could vote for the guy.
More….
Solar Grand Plan
Tidal Islands anybody?
TexAss Wind Blows Green!
Dead serious about my Obama comment. I won’t vote for anybody who doesn’t realize that building a sustainable society is the most important item on the agenda.
‘Cause if we don’t we are looking at our own ‘Collapse’.
No messin’
Has anybody seen Wordsmith? I’ve got a pony here…
These have been the salad days for thoughtless morons.
-G
I don’t know why, but this video just cracked me up. *g*
I’m guessing Caesar salad?
McCain’s Iran answer reminds me of the time during the 2000 election where the candidates were asked who their favorite political philosopher was and Bush answered “Jesus Christ.” It’s that same quality of “I have a talking point I want to get out, even if it makes absolutely no sense.”
You can’t beat a singing banana! I love fruit costumes!
That Bush talking point made a lot of sense in the context of Rove’s math — and his use of evangelical churches as GOTV phone banks. *G*
Hello Hello…I’m back. My PC has been on the fritz for two weeks and all I could do was read your wonderful insightful articles and comments. But I want to chime in here about Obama’s response to “our gravest threat”. He was so right and particularly so about the government having to have a central role in getting a handle on our energy policy. (McDumb’s response was as expected). The first thing I want to hear our leader say when he is in the oval office is that we go back to 55 or 60 mph. That alone would save bookoo gasoline. I am now driving no faster that 60 and want to get a bumper sticker for all the horn blowers that says “Drive Slow, Save Gas”. Hooray for us. Next thing would be to urge, push, demand that auto manufacturers retool for hybrids or hydrogen and/or batteries in new cars. I’d go for tax incentives for both car makers and car buyers. After that, more conservation measures, more alternative energy sources – wind power, solar power, etc. Looks like biofuels bring with them unintentioned consequences, like higher food prices and shortages. We need to be flexible and when something doesn’t work, go on to the next.
Obama will most likely be the first thinking president in a long time.
You’ve been a supporter of climate-change legislation that would essentially impose a penalty on the use of fossil fuel….
My bold ” You’ve been ” as in Obama? As in the interviewer, Fortune the magazine?
A “penalty on the use of fossil fuel….”
Which is a good thing right I mean the less fossil fuel we use the less money Osama has right?
If God is on Bush’s side, then why wasn’t gas $5/gallon at the beginning of his reign? doesn’t seem fair.
/s
Was there ever such a thing?
I’ve been watching them sinc 1965…year I got politically active.
And….
They’ve taken a nation on the verge of greatness and….
Turned it into a Third World nation.
Well something is odd, the House has screwed around all day. They just honored Pittsfield for being the first place the Baseball was ever heard. The are now honoring African American Music Month. The Republicans started off the day with a one minute blasting the scheduling of trivialities while the people were paying the Pelosi Premium.
Virginia Foxx just laid out the R strategy to recapture the Congress. “Here’s how we’ll do it…” They are betting the farm on gas prices going up. They’ve introduced a Bill to have a gasoline tax holiday over the summer. When She used the words “Republican Majority Congress would” the hair on the back off my neck stood up.
They’re honoring James Madison U for a 100 years of service now…
“Let me just say this at the top of the comments. I heard on the radio that Charlie (I heart ruthless dictators) Black say that another attack would be a campaign advantage for McCain. Creep.”
Another attack will result in lots of dead, injured and suffering men, women, and children. Only a less than human, souless, craven, sick fuck would see that as a “campaign advantage.”
Yes, the first zed and I couldn’t think of anything more clever! Gotta trundle back to work. Check on the latest later.
Could I impose a sec and ask a favor from you guys: there was a horrific hearing on Friday afternoon regarding exposure of some KBR employees and US soldiers and others in Iraq to a toxic chemical while working on KBR’s site there — for which KBR is claiming they have no financial responsibility even though they knew at the time the chemical was highly toxic and that exposure could be carcinogenic and a threat to health. The media coverage has been really scanty, and I’m trying to get the word out.
Could y’all take a moment and give this a little Digg nudge? I’d really appreciate it…
OHMIGAWD! I’ll take it!
“What do you see as the gravest long-term threat to the U.S. economy?”
____________
“Gravest”?
LOL!
Is that like “fullest”? Another absurdity.
I hate that doubly asinine phrase “…to the fullest extent of the law.”
Gravest…
STOOPID.
Darth Cheney: So?
What else is new? These people have no conception of how life is at the receiving end of war. They are like Barbara Bush, not bothering their beautiful minds. The MSM has removed it from their short attention spans and now they are transfixed on the latest advertainment
Well it’s official. Leonard Downie is stepping down as executive editor at the WaPo to become a VP at the parent company. I would love to see the ad for his replacement. It should say something like “Hack and suck up needed. Ability to overlook the worst Presidency in American history a plus. Applicant should be be able to spot and nourish Republican and corporate shills. Journalistic skills not required.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06…..ref=slogin
These have been the salad days for thoughtless morons.
As I sit here eating my salad (yes, it’s Caesar), I’m wondering just how I oughta take that…
Glenn Beck’s drunken, more moronic twin.
gonna need more information than just that in order to tell them apart…..
btw Christy, if you hadn’t highlighted that hearing this morning, I never would have seen it. I was aware of the sodium dichromate story, I did not know there was a hearing on it. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.
There’s no excuse for what KBR did to its own employees and to the Iraqi people.
I really blew it on that link! It was suppossed to say advertainment. btw, the link does work.
“Almost two dozen public interest groups have asked the Federal Communications Commission to start a proceeding on what they call “advertainment”—TV programming saturated with product placement.
These organizations cite as cause for concern a Nielsen report indicating a 13 percent boost in product placement spots on network TV last year—over 25,000 placements in the top ten shows. If you watch American Idol on a regular basis, you saw over 4,000 product placements in 38 episodes this year, CCFC says.”
Is that the deal where they’re claiming some kind of underhanded lawyer duplicity (sorry) that they don’t have to obey the law because they’re headquartered in the Caymans? Or something like that
McCain said he didn’t kmow much about economics, and he’s on a drill to make sure he proves himself right.
I knew you’d get a chuckle out of some of his answers. They are incredibly sad…
I also can’t believe the terra terra thing will still work (unless there’a snother attack). Look how well it did for Ghouliani.
That’s part of it, yep — but it’s gotten more complicated. I did a thumbnail review here of the facts from the hearing last Friday…
Well, yeah. And like McCain’s, it made no sense as an answer to the question, but makes perfect sense if you’re abusing the interview for purely electoral purposes. What McCain’s answer lacks, though, is that quality of a C student who knows he’s BS-ing the answer by ignoring the implied “and explain why” part of the question. However, that wasn’t explicitly asked in 2000; the interviewer probably naively assumed any politician with an IQ over 80 would know such an aswer was expected…
Mccain: Well, I would think that the absolute gravest threat is the struggle that we’re in against Islamic extremism, which can affect, if they prevail, our very existence. Another successful attack on the United States of America could have devastating consequences. You’ve been a supporter of climate-change legislation that would essentially impose a penalty on the use of fossil fuel….
OMFG!!!
McDummy strikes again
McDummy prolly 52% brain capacity imo
im thinkin Cindy Lou is about at 49 %
Christy,
I’m so glad you’re going to be hosting Amy Goodman here tomorrow. In the almost three years I’ve been reading articles and posting here, the two places I respect the most on the web are fdl and Democracy Now. OK, and maybe Howie Klein’s Down With Tyranny.
little Billy Kristol,thinks babyboots will bring one one
need i remind you Glen Beck is paid 10,000,000.00 US dollars PER YEAR to spew his idiocy
Yes, the neocons are on quit a drive to bomb Iran. Convinced themselves that Iran would be too scared to fight back.
need i remind you Glen Beck is paid 10,000,000.00 US dollars PER YEAR to spew his idiocy
maybe I should start drinking again.
I could fake the moron part…
Another attack… staged of course is not out of the question. These guys can’t win on the issues so the only thing they can do is scare people and maybe even call off elections because of the emergency. How convenient!
How the R’s can expect to remain “in power” is beyond me, except that they play dirty so who knows… and the courts are theirs so don’t expect this to be decided by Ms blind justice.
If we don’t send the R’s packing we will have fascism in no time.
ET!
Been thinking of you after hearing about the “Intern’s Survival Guide” put out by Don Young’s interns. How’s that been playing up there?
Amy G is a national treasure. How cool Christy! You gals rock.
but if his spewing on tv gets them hundreds of thousands or millions of votes it’s really cheap, ain’t it?
I just sent an Alaska update to Howie Klein about an hour ago. It is really, really long. It doesn’t even mention the Young Intern guide. More important stuff going on. He should have it up sometime later today at DWT.
well,well,well
Feingold: ‘Farce’ wiretap deal could be hiding ‘impeachable offense’
By Nick Juliano
The battle to protect Americans from warrantless wiretaps and hold telecommunications companies accountable is all but lost, Sen. Russ Feingold, a leading critic of President Bush’s likely illegal surveillance programs, said Monday.
The “farce” of a surveillance law deal heralded by House Democratic leaders last week could permanently hide evidence of an “impeachable offense” on the part of President Bush, the Wisconsin Democrat said.
oh fuuuk…this is NOT good
RNC Retains $50 Million Cash Advantage Over DNC
By Eric Kleefeld – June 23, 2008, 11:00AM
Here are some new fundraising numbers that complicate the notion that Obama will have an enormous fundraising advantage over McCain this fall: The Republican National Committee now has $50 million more on hand than its Dem counterpart.
The latest FEC filings show that the RNC raised over $24 million in the month of May alone, and has over $53 million cash on hand. By contrast, the DNC raised only $4.8 million, and has just under $4 million cash on hand — a paltry amount compared to the national GOP’s coffers.
Looking forward to it.
There has not been one since Richard Nixon left office. Now, that’s kinda scary idn’t it?
**note: Jim Jeffords excepted.
From the Fortune article
Sorta kinda says it all, doesn’t it? Every republican campaign since 1972. Seems like a good way to get rich without working the manicure off your finger nails.
pond scum
Get aload of Black. Not only will a terror attack help Mr. Womanizer; he also benefits because there was murder in Pakistan. What a mensch this guy is…so generous of spirit and kind.
i think people want to hear things that don’t contain conflict……no matter what it is.
back to their days of wonder bread and riding thier bike, being tucked in for bed.
i spent saturday at a gathering of ’christian singles’ at a friend of mine’s horse farm. she’s voting for mccain and wanted powell……i may have her convinced to hold her nose for obama, which is what i’ll do.
the pot luck was quite the eye-opener. always is……(and go ahead and make cracks, i already told you i travel in a lot of circles, including rastas and buddhists and even, gasp, country clubs……..i am welcomed at all venues, why? because they know i am genuinely interested and care about people, no matter what their views……i wanna know what they think and what in their lives made them think that way, and whether they are still curious and want to grow….she sent me four emails to press into coming…)
i haven’t been to the gatherings much, out of town, and didn’t know if i want to take it on. my views on christianity have drastically changed in the past 4 years.
well, decided to…….ended up only 5 ladies showed, and we ended up on the patio, and it came around to economy and stuff……so, i talked about writing letters and calls about issues, etc…….
see, what you gotta understand is, my friend has a huge home, lots of stuff, huge horse farm, runs it all herself, leader in her very large wesleyan church, and they want to impress her, and i know her, knew where the silverware was and brazenly looked for glasses……and took plates when people were done, that kinda thing…..talked me up about how many kinds of ’interesting’ people i know, and the ’interesting’ things i’ve done, so, that gave me a platform to bend a few ears….subtle ways in polite company of saying, status, leave her alone……….plus, there was a lady there, lonely, rich, whose daughter tried to have her committed to take her money, crying talking about it, and who knew what to say to her? ME….so, later on the patio as we were dishing out my penzey’s spices and herbs that i brought to share, as i described what each one was and who wanted what, they started asking me about politics, so i answered with what they can do with what they think about issues and left it at that….and a seed will grow…i’ll go back in a month or two and water them………so, keep putting the thoughts into people’s heads that maybe something isn’t so perfect and maybe they should call and write and maybe they can help someone else’s situation along with their own views if they would just do that……
i may be rambling, i had a gin and tonic, wwell, two strong ones, but what i’m trying to say is, people want bland, so, give them their bland-let them have it, and let them know that adding a little spice is not being adventurous, it’s making you eat more healthy food…….that adding a new thought and view is expanding their brains to avoid alzheimers…and to understand others better, cuz they surely knew by the time they left that that is my only agenda, my views are mine, my caring is universal…that it’s ok to use the brain that their god gave them.that false gods come in the guise of false thoughts……..
so, i just wanted to share a little of my life-long strategy of how i’ve mixed in the world and still have friends and that sometimes that’s all you need to influence people…….sometimes.
that’s why they still invite me to bible study. curiousity. and trust.
and christy–i sold the car that had the wva bumper sticker–when you tell the truth you don’t have to remember what you said…….that came up saturday, too….that i have to get another one for my new car.
forgot to say that they all watch fox……not anymore i’d bet.
Lauryn Hill – Everything is Everything
i was first once, but didn’t say zed cause I was never here in the zed days.
hehe
ya know i just realized,the stock market indicies are just about where they were years ago,when braindead chimp took over
.
more like Glenn Beck’s doddering Shop Teacher, not the cool one who chaperoned field trips either – the cranky one missing fingers on each hand ya had for Sex Ed your freshman year :D
dear gaia, Eisenhower ?!?!? how did the FORTUNE person keep a straight face
An interesting thing to note from that Fortune article (thanks, Christy!) is who the candidates talk to… McCain talks to lobbyists and failed corporate leaders (Carly Fiorina, just look at HP before and after she was there) for his economic plans. Obama talks to Steve Jobs, a tech/marketing guy who understands what failure and rebuilding mean. And Warren Buffett, an investor so smart that everyone wants to know what he thinks. The republicans would love to be having them some Buffett, but not this year.
hey cbl2–was it you who gave me sen and rep links to educate me on procedures about a month ago?
i didn’t bookmark it immediately, browser crashed, closed all of my windows, didn’t go back and look right away and then couldn’t remember what day it was……
do you still have them?
11501.9 end year 2000
chimp has been very good for the Economy,just ask him
sorry d – wasn’t me
try googling:
senate procedures – comments – firedoglake
tweak that first part if you recall a better, more specific reference/buzzword
sorry that was the Dow
too late..we have it now
corps run the country and the leaders
McCain is right. Just not in the way he intends. Our gravest threat is the way we’re conducting the struggle we’re in against Islamic extrmism. We, or rather the Bush-Cheney cabal, are our own worst enemy. Until we change that, we’ll continue doubling down on the strategic disaster that began with the invasion of Iraq.
More from loosehead
When I read that it didn’t make sense. It makes it seem McDumb and Obama were standing together in a debate forum. Clumsy, to say the least.
contests for candidates to win $5,000 for their campaigns–
http://www.progressivepatriotsfund.com/candidates/
russ feingold’s progressive patriot’s pac, info on candidates and vote
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http://ga4.org/pacforachange/c….._vote.html
barbara boxer’s pac contest
http://www.pacforachange.com/candidates/
candidates list for boxer’s pac, but all candidates aren’t on there. duh.
seeing ed teller reminded me to post this…….cuz the alaskan challenger is on the list, i didn’t vote for him, sorry, there was another i like better…….but you can…….
thanks cbl–it was you or LS, i had just gotten back into town and put it off until the next day……..will googley…….thanks…….
It’s more than just ‘energy’ and even Obama doesn’t have the courage to let the U.S. public know that they’re way of life will HAVE TO CHANGE; as but one example watch this:
http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/425/index.html
Nor does Obama -or any other politician- point out the salient points- and examples given- by John Kao in ‘Innovation Nation’ http://www.innovationation.org/
And now that we’ve given up being a nation that produces ‘things’ -besides weapons- where do we go from here?