Picture credit: "Russ Christ," by watertiger. Click on image for larger size.
Tim Russert died a week ago. I have little to say about the man personally, because, like The Editors, I did not know him personally.
Neither am I much concerned with who will replace him on Meet the Press, as I would much prefer for that program and all similar programs to be either canceled or completely reformatted so they are not clubby little vapid insider smarmfests, hideous vehicles for the perpetration of a conventional wisdom typically at odds with the public good.
As an interviewer he could be "tough," but was rarely illuminating. After the 348th time he sprung an ancient quote in order to create the appearance of inconsistency it is quite possible that people began to catch on to his favorite tactic: it got just a bit old. And it was never very difficult to anticipate just what his other questions would be ahead of time. If you knew the game and you knew the players, you knew the lines.
That's what is really meant when he is lauded as "fair." He played the game by the rules, and the first rule of Russert Fight Club was to never say anything that might call into question the seriousness of the Very Serious People who came on his show. You went on Meet the Press to have your legitimacy consecrated. You faced "tough" questions you and everyone else already knew the proper answer to, even if you were spouting egregious bullshit and everyone knew it. You just had to know how to play the essentially meaningless "gotcha" on the short hop: if you sounded good, you were golden. You were performing and that was understood.
Look at the reaction from wingnuttia -- they know it's a game, and how to play it, at least the savvier among them. The dreaded MSM becomes just a bit less ferociously committed to electing Democratic candidates when it comes to Tim Russert!
The thing that always impressed me the most about him was his sense of fairness. Yes, he could be tough on politicians, but as far as I could tell, he treated everyone fairly and well, whether it was people across the ideological spectrum or across the economic and class spectrum. Even though he was at the absolute top of the Washington ziggurat, he had not a trace of elitism.
So much for The Partisan Liberal Media as an article of faith on the right. Russert was the most influential journalist in Washington -- but was not biased! What a racket -- that MSM stuff? That's for the rubes, (sort of like how the religious right will be continually stroked on the abortion issue, but will never achieve consummation). It's all about belonging, about playing the game and profiting by it.
Tim Russert was at the top of his profession, a profession deeply subordinate to dominant political power. But he was in the dominant position among the dominated, which is not a bad place to be, if you can stand it. If you can bear knowing that your job is to define and police the boundaries of "acceptable" and "legitimate" political speech, boundaries that are set up precisely where the powerful want them placed so as to avoid the need to ever have to answer real questions, as opposed to questions that are merely "tough."
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Evening, Thers. While his family and friends have my sympathy for their loss, he was a sorry little man and the country is better off without him (even if involuntary retirement would have been a more benign exit).
Hi all.
Watertiger is teh awesome with the Photoshop skillz.
Thers! russert crap!
Here’s an idea: Let’s just indict the Very Serious People who deserve it, and ignore the rest of them. Et Voila! Problem solved, more comeuppance for evildoers, less time wasted watching TV… and more time for commenting on blogs! It’s a 4-fer!
enjoying the cool?
Ob crikey!!! That picture is frikkin’ hysterical!!!!
all hail the fantabulous watertiger’s photoshop skills
Good grief are my Internets moving slow…
Although I’m pretty much a News junkie, I have never watched a Russert MTP program.
I did watch him as one of the moderators in the primary debates. I was appalled.
When it was revealed in the Libby trial that Dick Cheney (and staff) used Tim as a tool to convey their lies, I was not surprised.
RIP Mr. Russert.
Timmeh never ahd a six-pack like that in his wildest dreams!
Brian Williams gets first
auditioncrack at MTP on Sunday…next one…Evening wear…..Here is a little DIGG for ya Thers!
Great psot, Thers! thanks.
I have to say that the ongoing canonization of Russert really chafe my ass. As The Editors point out, he was a mediocre interviewer and a lousy journalist. He was also a whole hearted imperialist warmoonger and genreal enabler of the Bush administration. When the Rightwing says you are fair, it really means that they can expect to be finely fluffed every time they go on your show. Asshats!
dugg and thanks nahant
Hiya DrD.
I’ve no idea if Russert was a sorry man or not; actually he seemed quite satisfied with himself. He was surely well paid enough.
Just please don’t have David Gregory do the swimsuit competition.
I should express myself more clearly (you can tell I am an anthropologist and not an English prof). Russert was a sorry excuse for a man. I am quite certain he had no regrets whatsoever about his actions.
No comment…;>
backing up tanker trailer of brain bleach and giving the lake a good spray
Hey Suz well did they like the cabin by the creek?
Thankee nahant, & Kirk!
great post Thers!
I’m struggling to try to articulate a thought/ question I’ve had. Sorta like did Russert actually create and define that “genre”, or was that an open slot that he happened to fill, something that was there for the taking bec. of the corporate media? Thus, with Russert gone, will things really change? Or will there another warm body to step in and fill this corporate media slot?
“Anticipation, la la la…”
Thank you Suzanne, I needed that!
i dunno.. had two showings this afternoon and the open house tomorrow. my agent will be in touch with the 4 agents who have shown it since thursday.
thanks :)
Hee hee, fair enough.
I can’t wait for the jewelry to come out so I can wear his did ass on a chain around my neck.
Whoever fills the ’slot’ for the first six months can kiss their career good-bye. They will constantly be being compared to St Russert, and will always (by definition) suffer by comparison. SO if I was a bobble-head I would be running in the other direction from anyone even remotely suggesting me to the powers that be. HA!
Wishing you lotsa LUCK SUZ!
Great art, watertiger, and Thanks for posting it and the write!, Thers. But where’s Olbermann. I love him, but he’s not exempt from this circus!
Who didn’t LOVE the “crying make-up” on him the night after??? Mr. siri and I were BOTH cracking up at that!
i think standing over st joe and threatening that his next location was going to be in the septic system if he didn’t get off the duff and get me a forking buyer might have had something to do with it
dead ass
oy
KO said emphatically, in his usual emphatic and slightly teed-off way at the rumor that he was under consideration that ‘he was not interested, and was not qualified.’
I read that. I was asking where was his mugg in the artwork above??? In the “crying masses”???? He deserved a pic in that. Need to ask watertiger, I know, I’m just sayin’……
Hugs Mrs.K8!
Hi everyone;)
The samba in a swimsuit. Can’t wait.
You wait. They’ll pick Tweety.
I hope they have the good sense to retire “Meet the Press”.
Not that they wouldn’t come up with a similar format under a different title as soon as they possibly could.
And may Timmeh be at peace in the great ever after. May his family find peace here on Earth, poor souls. And I hope his journey was a good one.
I’m just sayin……
Or Mike Barnicle.
Or Luke Russert.
Press the Meat.
Hi Margot!
Big storms here today.
Hi LS.
*clink*
There are worse choices than Mike Barnacle.
And a “clink” to you too!!!
Hi, pups
I had the same thought, Siri. “Wait…Where’s Keith?”
I do feel for all of Timmeh’s colleagues. That kind of loss is tough. But as many have said here at the Lake, just because you’ve got cameras doesn’t mean they should be _on_ all the time. We’re not your therapist, OK?!
FunnyHusseinDiva
Lost my wireless connection…. it is 60 degrees and misting….. what a switch from 112 and abundant sunshine….
When the journalist (using that loosely) becomes the story then they are NO LONGER a journalist…. they are one of the actors in the play of life…
It doesn’t really matter. Whoever takes over MTP works for GE, and GE profits from war and warmongering. Everything else they are telling us is a bunch of propaganda BS.
VG — what Russert did was to completely reduce to rubble the notion that journalism should be independent from political power. He made it cool to sell out.
Of course it wasn’t just him and he didn’t start it and there was never an idealized past when everything was wonderful, but he was the consummate insider and he legitimized insiderism to an extraordinary degree.
His great contribution was the invention of a phony “toughness” that gave himself & his profession the illusion of autonomy while masking its utter subordination. This is why politicians loved him, especially the GOP ones who really ran things during most of his career. If they could face down the RUSSERT why they were really tought themselves!
It was a game, and the house always won.
He’ll be a tough act to follow but there’s never a shortage of people desperate to become King of the Dipshits.
Same here, Chris.
I have a question for you, I’ll put it on F/Book tomorrow.
They could always go back to the old format. Four real journalists and one guest. Lessee, Amy Goodman, Naomi Klein, Mr Robert, and Greg Palast questioning [insert your favourite slug here].
Good for you for putting your foot down!
Well it’s that time for put my apron on and start cooking…grill is heating water is on the stove so I will catch up with ya all a bit later after we indulge in tonight’s dinner.
Extra thick pork chops, pesto pasta steamed zucchini, yellow squash and fresh Bread with whole cloves of garlic embedded in it…toasted of course!
w00t!
(now back to the smelt)
“Russ Christ”? hee-hee-hee….
Well, going by the ‘rules’ in Thers’ piece above, KO doesn’t fit the profile. He says rude stuff about the Chimp in Chief and other people, calls them liars and stuff.
So he really isn’t one of ‘them’, now, is he?
This one may be Watertiger’s best evah!
Have been hard “pressed” to listen to all of the fawning over Russert. From what I have heard though, it seems that he asked about people’s families and actually remembered their names.
It’s as if this type of courtesy had actually hypnotized the inside the Beltway crowd. They sound like they’ve been snake charmed and addicted and can’t face their worlds without this unique (to them) type of personal acknowledgement.
Good journalism was never a part of this equation.
Oh, that’ll happen.
How’re the tigers, SD?
I can’t think of a single story he ever covered to his distinction. The Greats from before all had at least one major piece of reporting to their credit, as best as i can remember.
I’ve been unable to avoid commentary and tributes to him in the various media. All of it was about his character, humbleness, love of family, etc. None of it has been about him as a reporter.
yeap
timmah was not ‘the press’. he was a press spokesperson
Oh I forgot to leave you guys some pork chops….Enjoy!
I, personally, find all of the BS “political pundit shows” to be a form of infotainment…people listen because of the adrenalin rush about “sound bites” that manipulate our minds, and make people think they really mean something. They are manipulating our minds by editing. They are run by corporations that are profiting from war.
It is BS, and a bunch of “actors” are the so-called “experts”.
BSTV
FB open…
Wait, wait, leave a space for Rachael Maddow, OK?
Oh, and thank you, Thers, for the excellent dissection of the Russert Myth.
FunnyH.Diva
Perhaps with the exception of Rachel Maddow and KO…both employed by G.E. though….
Oh no. The GOPers would never stand for an out lesbian questioner, no matter how well she played the game, and she doesn’t play.
It would be nice if she had a show and could question some of these idiots…well, I can always dream.
Well…OK, I guess. But he’s sure been busy this week perpetuating the Russert Myth/Mystique. Guess everyone has a blind spot.
FunnyH.D
The pundit shows are like a grown-up version of Disney’s “Space Mountain”…you wanna go back one more time…
[insert your favourite slug here].
Is it possible to have a *favorite* slug?
Thers!!!
Thank you for the response, a brilliant one, I might add. Quotable, and more than. And, I think, 250 words or less (fair use allusion) ;)
mmmmm, thanks nahant. I have a little sage bush just now taking off in my garden.
Pretty good. My little 19 year old looks like she’s fading a bit. Just had her checked but my gut tells me her age is catching up with her. We’ll see. Thanks for asking.
LOL!
I read this, totally laughed, and THEN I read more and totally laughed again!
Thanks! diva. and YOU are!
lol……….
I’m sure, being a GE employee, that he doesn’t have total control over all his content. He gets to choose the WPITW and oddball news, but I bet they have a lot of input into his actual countdown stories. And in this case…
Yeah, though rules can change. Olbermann has been pretty shrewd, though he did kind of go overboard in the primaries (IMHO), and his Special Comments should be a lot more, well, special — they lose value when they’re too frequent.
But I’m afraid that while I like KO it’s the whole structure of journalism that’s rotten, and I’m skeptical that it can be salvaged. If KO was The New Russert it would mean he’d have to trim his sails a lot more than he does now. It’s the nature of the job.
I haven’t seen ADM advertising on Countdown.
Don’t expect to, either.
Ah, so she is “out”. Maybe that’s another frontier for the post-W decade: recognizing good journalism regardless of gender or orientation. Yeah, I know. I just wanted to dream, too.
FHD
I’ve got the same gut feeling about my Mastiff. He’s got some vague things…gonna be 9…that’s old for a Mastiff.
I’m telling my lawyers!
Well, it’s kind of hard to ration the Special Coments when you have Bushed every day and WPITW every day and all the other crap every day. You just get so mad you’d like to do a special comment on each and every one I just imagine.
So many scandals, so little time.
That was the good thing about the old show. And I’m old enough to remember it with Lawrence Spivak. Spivak was usually there every week but different journalists made appearances on the panel. Carville and Matlin would have never gotten on the original MTP. They interviewed newsmakers, not pundits or hacks. Like Russert the pundits think of themselves as newsmakers. Snake oil salesmen.
no,
not everyone.
i mean it totally when i tell ya, mr. siri and i were just on the floor cracking up, at KO’s red nose, the whole thing…..
i wonder if those other’s who GOT that are being shy to step on out and call bs on OK.
sorry. i love the guy, he’s done some major damage to Bu$hCo, imho.
He’s in the books, right along side of george. I’m still trying to figure out why Keith & Co. did that. It was fake. That’s just true.
Sure. Mine’s Bill “Sardonicus” Kristol.
I think there is probably also some pressure on him for more of that. It is one of the keys to his success and I am sure his employers keep him aware of what they expect.
Yes. In this case there’s a personal/professional bond and real grief.
And as long as KO still has Rachael and John Dean and Jonathan Turley (con law) and some of his other really smart guests come on for meaningful discussion, I think Countdown will be the best. And I’m soooo glad the stupid “celeb. sighting” crap seems to have been cut. Maybe the primaries were good for something…
FHD
and one thing further, i really wonder how on board with that whole production he really was.
Yeah, but then they lose their status as “special.”
It’s a dilemma.
My favorite slug is…wait, there are so many…AAAAAKKK! My head is exploding!
(get out computer cleaner, air spray etc.) (Begin cleaning)
Well, he could do special comments and then every so often ‘extra-special’ comments
*snark*
I will say…thank goodness for KO, Rachel Maddow, and definitely Jonathan Turley. They are about all we’ve got on MSM. Thank goodness for Amy Goodman and crew…and Laura Flanders too!!
They are a bit heavy-handed with his makeup, aren’t they?
I probably missed the “sad face” night in question. I skipped a couple of the egregiously Timmah-centric shows.
Hmm. I must be dense tonight, but I need a translation.
Oh, Countdown has a blog, so if anyone really wanted to stir things up and call bs on KO…
FHD
I second that!
Fast approaching 100 comments and no music?
Tom Waits has a completely different take on Waltzing Matilda.
AAAAAKKK! My head is exploding!
exactly.
And i agree with the end of the pundits policy, but if need be, maybe, say, with Mr. and Mrs. Carville, they can do that blur-the-faces-out thing, or put ‘em behind a screen so that just silhouettes can be seen.
Mary Matilan gives me the night-sweats (not in a good way, ya understand).
I’m fading fast so I will bid all a good night. Take care and enjoy the snark.
g’nite dr (pause) dick
Nite DrDick
Hee hee.
But of course that’s the problem.
G’nite, Dr… Dick.
I third that.
When I’ve replaced my dying laptop with something that can handle podcasts, I’m sure I’ll become a huge GRIT TV fan.
FHD
Ask and ye shall receive
How Does Tomorrow Dream
I’m sorry.
I mean that his whole “tude” toward George Bush, Bush the Lessor in some circles, is already being documented. I think Olbermann will be written about in the future. He’s in the books about this time in America along side of or within articles about George W. Bush.
As Bob Somerby at The Daily Howler has made clear the following quote says a lot about Russert the ‘journalist.’
The price the heart pays…
*sob*
Ach! I forgot Olbermann!
I have to admit that I refused to watch the television after Russert’s death, because I knew it was going to be another Reaganesque canonization of a not especially talented journalist.
I was hard-pressed to think of who, besides the obvious characters, would be worthy of disciple status.
Great post, Thers!
Ah, now that makes sense. Thanks. Hope you’re right. But I want Jane and Christy and Marcy (emptywheel) in the books, too. And those reporters from McClatchy/KnightRidder.
FHD
Howdy, ma’am. Mighty fine work up top.
Can someone explain please…how can you be only 13 years old…and play fiddle like this…this is Ruby Jane…she’s gonna play with Willie Nelson’s band at his picnic this year…I met her last night…she played with Mr. LS and others last night…(not those in this video), but I’ve never seen anything like it…an amazing young girl…:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOHa55mKqO4