I first realized the power -- and evil -- of the dreaded practitioners of “manufactured doubt” when I was working at OSHA in the late 1990’s on the ergonomics standard. That was the regulation that was going to address the plague of disabling back injuries, carpal tunnel syndrome, tendinitis and other musculoskeletal disorders that at that time – and still today – make up the most common source of injury among American workers.
In case the vision of a worker making 20,000 knife cuts a day in a chicken processing plant, or lifting 250 pound slippery patients all day long didn’t convince you that back, shoulder and wrist injuries were work-related, there were enough scientific studies to choke a horse. The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health put out an analysis of the data in a book big enough to put the New York City telephone book to shame.
After 10 years of fighting industry opposition and a hostile Congress, the standard was issued in late 2000. Nevertheless, in one of the first actions of the Bush administration, the Republican Congress and George Bush repealed the standard. The main argument used by the Republicans and industry? Ergonomics is junk science, and not enough sound science. "We don’t know the exact amount of physical stress needed to cause carpal tunnel syndrome," industry-paid researchers argued. "We don’t know exactly how much weight a worker can lift to cripple her back."
The fact that we DID know more than enough to protect workers, even if we didn't know EVERYTHING about causation, didn't seem to matter. Despite two Congressionally mandated studies by the National Academy of Science that confirmed the relationship between work and musculoskeletal injuries, researchers also concluded (as researchers always do) that more study was needed. Surely, corporate America said, we can’t regulate something if “more study is needed.”
In Doubt is Their Product, George Washington University Professor, and former (Clinton Administration) Assistant Secretary of Energy for Environment, Health and Safety, David Michaels has written a book that is essential (and fascinating) reading for anyone who wonders why it's almost impossible for this country to protect its workers and citizens from the effects of harmful chemicals, pharmaceuticals and other phenomena -- like global warming.
Needless to say, the ergonomics standard was not the first worker or consumer safeguard to fall under the ax of the industry’s “sound science” argument. In fact, as Michaels describes and documents, it was the tobacco industry that first made a religion out of creating doubt in order to fight off -- or at least delay -- government regulation. The title of Michael's book comes from a 1969 memo from an executive of the Brown and Williamson Tobacco Company: "Doubt is our product since it is the best means of competing with the 'body of fact' that exists in the mind of the general public."
I mean, after all, cigarette smoking may be associated with lung cancer, but that doesn’t mean it causes it:
What was the mechanism by which the tobacco smoke caused cancer? Were there other factors associated with both lung cancer and tobacco that might be responsible. Was there something in someone’s constitution (which today we would explain as genetic) that increased both lung cancer risk and the propensity to smoke?
You get the idea. As Michaels explains:
The industry understood that the public is in no position to distinguish good science from bad. Create doubt, uncertainty, and confusion. Throw mud at the ‘‘antismoking’’ research under the assumption that some of it is bound to stick. And buy time, lots of time, in the bargain.
And that has been the recurring theme of those opposing any government protections ever since – whether talking obvious hazards like asbestos and beryllium, to others like Lead. Vinyl chloride, Chromium, Formaldehyde, Arsenic and Benzene. Pharmaceuticals, like Vioxx – and even global warming.
Of course, Brown and Williamson may have given a name to the tactic (and Michaels’ book), but they didn’t invent it. If you've read Deceit and Denial by Gerald Markowitz and David Rosner, you'll find almost identical tactics since early last century throughout the history of lead and vinyl chloride – as well as asbestos.
If you learn nothing else from this book, know this: "Polluters and manufacturers of dangerous products tout ‘‘sound science,’’ but what they are promoting just sounds like science but isn’t." In other words, when you hear companies or politicians or government officials claim that they have not problem with regulating a chemical "as long as we're basing any controls on 'sound science,'" run screaming for the hills. According to Michaels, "Sound Science" is actually the "sanctification of its own bought-and- paid-for research," and "junk science" is "any research that might threaten corporate interests."
Now let me admit right here that a book about the scientific method, epidemiology and regulatory politics may not strike the average reader as choice summer reading. But that average reader would be wrong. Doubt is Their Product is a fairly quick read that not only gets the blood stirring with stories of corporate malevolence -- but Michaels also describes the victims of that corporate malevolence -- the thousands of children who died of Reyes syndrome because the pharmaceutical industry successfully delayed putting warning labels on aspirin bottles, the thousands of heart attacks because Merck covered up studies that showed that Vioxx caused heart attacks.
In fact, the book is filled with stories so gripping (and depressing) that that you’ll want to run out and buy copies for your relatives who assure you that if that drug or chemical was bad for you, surely the government would have let us know or banned it. You’re hopefully about to join in a discussion with David, so before that happens, here’s a taste of what you’ll get if you read the book.
- Science for Hire: Fighting regulation of harmful substances is not just confined to the companies that produce the materials, or even their industry associations. So-called "product defense firms" like "ChemRisk" and "Exponent" have sprung up to defend corporate poisons.
The work has one overriding motivation: advocacy for the sponsor’s position in civil court, the court of public opinion, and the regulatory arena.
They take the data from good studies showing that a chemical does harm, and reanalyze the data showing the exact opposite results. Then publish the new "study" -- unless no reputable journal will publish it -- in which case they just start up their own "scientific"journal. Michaels describes how these firms have reanalyzed data to show that -- despite good evidence from studies, and sick or dead workers and consumers -- roller coasters really don't cause brains damage, soft drinks don't cause obesity, perchlorate (a rocket fuel component ) doesn't really cause thyroid disease, the pesticide atrazine doesn't really cause cancer. "This is science for hire, period, and it is extremely lucrative," making the firms millions of dollars defending against disease claims and regulation.
- The "tricks of the trade" that scientists use to mislead the public: The most devious is selling the belief that "absolute proof is required before we act," when actually, the Occupational Safety and Health Act only requires that regulation be based on the "best available evidence." So what do scientists do to prove a chemical is dangerous or safe? We obviously can't intentionally expose a group of workers to a chemical, and then wait 20 or 30 years to see who has cancer.
The alternatives are epidemiology and animal studies. But epidemiology -- the study of disease in populations -- "is a sitting duck for uncertainty campaigns." The problem with studying the effect of a chemical in a population of workers include the fact that you may not know -- thirty years ago-- how much they were exposed to, or what other chemicals they were exposed to, or a number of other variables for which assumptions must be made. And most chemically induced cancers mimic other common cancers and may not appear for thirty years after exposure. So it's relatively simple to reanalyze the data, change some of the assumptions, and voila! serious doubts are raised.
The alternative to epidemiology, however, is animal studies -- exposing animals to toxic products to predict what will happen with humans. The "we are men, not mice" crowd has been successful in casting doubt on these as well.
The problem then becomes a convenient Catch 22:
Animal studies are important, but manufacturers often hold out for epidemiological evidence with humans before accepting any label that a substance is a carcinogen. Alternatively, they will hold out for animal studies if the only existing evidence comes from epidemiologic studies.
- Covering up the science: The Bush administration's Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) has done virtually nothing about regulating the thousands of uncontrolled chemical that workers are exposed to. We have seen action in only two areas: hexavalent chromium, a cancer-causing component in paints for which OSHA issued a standard under court order, and diacetyl, an artificial butter flavoring that causes "popcorn lung," which destroys workers' lungs. Despite several deaths, hundreds of serious illnesses, and union petitions, OSHA spent seven years ignoring this problem (without even a fact sheet!) before finally launching the regulatory process -- only after Congressional hearings and a bill passed by the House of Representatives that would have forced OSHA to issue an emergency standard.
Both of these chemicals have something in common. The industry's that produced them had done studies that confirmed their health effects at low levels, but that evidence was hidden from regulators -- and from exposed workers. In fact, Michaels was instrumental in discovering the the incriminating information on hexavalent chromium in some old file cabinets holding materials from a court case.
- Beware the Courts: The book also discusses the Supreme Court's 1993 Daubert decision, aka "the most influential Supreme Court ruling you've never heard of." The Daubert decision gives trial judges the authority to rule in -- or rule out -- science and scientific experts and studies before the jury even gets to hear a case. The problem here, of course, is that with the bankruptcy of our regulatory system, the courts are often the only place that the victims of corporate poisoning can go. Where "product defense" experts can cast "doubt" on the few experts that aren't bought and paid for by corporate America, victims will be left with nothing.
- Beware the Government: As a result of court decision and Presidential directives, the regulatory process is already bogged down almost to the point of what observers call "paralysis by analysis." OSHA, for example, regulates only about 500 chemicals out of the thousands out there that are used in high amounts and may be harmful, and most are based on science from the 1950's and 1960's, before we had any sophisticated understanding of cancer causation. Yet the agency has managed only to update a small handful of chemical regulations, and those often take years for each one. Not good enough, says the Bush Administration. In fact, our regulatory system has become, in the words of science author Chris Mooney (in a review of this book),"the bureaucratic equivalent of clotted arteries."
But it threatens to get worse. Much worse. Through a number laws passed by the Republican Congress, and interpretations of those laws by Bush's Office of Management and Budget, good-government sounding programs like the "The Data Access Act," "Data Quality Act" and "Peer Review" -- which have little to do with actual quality of the data, or review by honest scientific peers -- threaten to gum up the works even more (if that were possible.)
So what are the answers? What is to be done? Michaels has a number of solutions that involve transparency, full disclosure and a "Sarbanes-Oxley" type of responsibility for producers of potentially toxic substances. But my time (and space) are up. Ask him yourself.
And by the way, if anyone still thinks that all of this is just an academic exercise, when you're done with this tonight, check in with the Charlotte Observer to check out the effect of the "junk science" movement and repeal of the ergonomics standard on real people who are preparing your dinner as we speak.
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David, Welcome to the Lake.
Jordan, Thank you for Hosting this book salon.
Thanks Jordan, and FDL, for inviting me. You’ve written a lovely introduction - I’m happy to take questions.
Good to be here, especially for such a worthy cause.
So David, what kind of response have you gotten from the scientific and corporate communities?
ARe we going to get back to any meaningful protection, thinking about the FDA, EPA, etc. All we hear is disaster. Thank you.
In the science community, the response has been very good - The book got rave reviews in Nature and New Scientist last week. What is surprising, though, is the silence of the groups and corporations I write about. None have responded at all, perhaps knowing if they defend themselves it will look worse.
It will take a great deal of work for the next administration to rebuild the regulatory agencies that have been decimated by the current one. And I think that some have become so impotent it may be worth rethinking the entire endeavor. OSHA is the best example of this.
Welcome, David!
These guys really work the Seven Classical Fallacies, don’t they? Too bad logic isn’t taught in schools any more.
OSHA has promised to get a pre-proposal on diacetyl (popcorn lung) out pretty soon for “small business review.” I’m sure we’ll be hearing a log of protest about the inconclusive science.
By the way, I have the reviews up at the website DefendingScience.org along with some of the smoking guns I reveal in the book. I have also put up all (about 1150 of them) references, with hyperlinks, so anyone can see the original documents supporting my statements.
Welcome to FDL David and Jordan.
I have not had an opportunity to read your book David so pardon this possibly dumb question.
How does the “Sound Science” argument pushed by the nay-sayers play into the (seemingly purposeful) dumbing down and discrediting of science that we see when so many schools/Governors and such like are pushing the “Intelligent Design” and so-called “Creation Science?”
Clearly we’re going to need some legislative changes in the Occupational Safety and Health Act to have any chance of speeding up the regulatory process, especially with chemicals.
“Teach the controversy” - around creationism vs. evolution is supported by Pres Bush and (I think) Sen. McCain. The idea is the same - there is some uncertainty, so let’s acknowledge that both positions can be right. It’s anti-science, of course.
The people who are demanding “sound science” really are demanding something that sounds like science, but isn’t.
OSHA has issued one new chemical standard in the last 7 years - only because a federal judge said OSHA had to do it. But even a well-meaning administration wouldn’t be able to overcome the backlog. More than 90% of OSHA’s standards are more than 40 years old, and many are hopelessly outdated.
I heard someone once observe that our media has lowered itself to: “And now for the other side of Adolf Hitler, we have…”
I think journalists are always ordered to look at the “other side” of the “controversy,” even when there isn’t one. And science is so confusing to some people “sound science” types get away with it.
If I weren’t so familiar with them, I’d be shocked by some of the positions taken by the “product defense” scientists. We have a paper up on our website from one of these groups disputing the evidence diacetyl causes “popcorn workers lung”. They will produce a study with any conclusion that their sponsors need, to defeat public health regulation or win in court.
It does seem that reporters are getting over the “two sides to every story” conceit. Especially around global warming. When they include a statement by an Exxon-funded expert they identify the expert accordingly, then many even put in something explaining how most scientists disagree with that person’s position.
But for the most part, reporters are caught in the “equal time” trap.
People don’t realize that government “protection” is so feeble. There was an article in the Washington Post a couple of weeks ago about the new European chemical initiative, which actually moves toward proving a chemical safe before it goes into use (or testing the ones already there), whcih is not the case in this country. This is a quote from the article:
What about the Universities (VCU) taking money from the cigarette companies for research that they then can’t publish?
It seems that those instances, the universities are not performing as true arbiter of science
Hi David and Jordan,
thanks for coming to the Lake to speak with us.
One of my best friends did venous ultrasounds at a hospital. And anyone who’s had or seen an ultrasound can easily see how holding a transducer out away from the body for an extended period of time all day long is a physical strain for the sonographer. She developed serious carpal tunnel syndrome which required medical treatment.
Yet the doctor and hospital claimed her injury was not work related. It was beyond absurd. So I thank you, for her, for writing this book and I hope that it gets the widespread attention it deserves.
I’m sick of the actual junk science that pervades our society today.
The academic community is coming around to the idea that secret research can threaten science. During the late 1990s there was a series of alarming instances in which corporations blocked the publication of research (that they had paid for) that was detrimental to the companies but important for protecting the public’s health. Outraged, the editors of thirteen of the world’s leading biomedical journals, including the New England Journal of Medicine and the Journal of the American Medical Association, declared in 2001 that they will publish only studies done under contracts in which the investigators are ‘‘free of commercial interest.’’ The journals no longer accept papers about studies performed under contracts that allowed the sponsor to control the results. In a joint statement, the editors asserted that contractual arrangements that allow sponsor control of publication ‘‘not only erode the fabric of intellectual inquiry that has fostered so much high-quality clinical research, but also make medical journals party to potential misrepresentation, since the published manuscript may not reveal the extent to which the authors were powerless to control the conduct of a study that bears their names.
So things are changing - the journals are ahead of government agencies, who have no limitation on the science they will accept for consideration.
The many scientists in my extended family are offended by what is often portrayed in the media as “science,” and the practitioners of such “science” give all scientists a bad name.
Unless the journalists have some kind of basic mathematical and/or scientific training, though, they have a hard time sorting out the kooks from the people who know what they are doing. Most of the time, the media is happy if they spell all those fancy words right.
Journalists who cover science — and politics — need to understand statistics, for instance, so that they know what “levels of confidence” are. They need to know the basic scientific method, and have an understanding of what “peer review” means (and what it does NOT mean).
Michael, how much of this mess do you put on the media for not seeing through the smoke that industry and anti-regulation Republicans are blowing?
One of the things I write about, and that Jordan and I have both worked on for years, is reforming the workers compensation system. Anyone who has ever had a work-related injury knows the system just doesn’t work.
Fascinating. Unfortunately true. I will get the book and after reading will share it with students. Joan Barice MD
Jordan, welcome back to the Lake and thanks for hosting today.
David, thank you for your work and for this excellent, exhaustively documented book. I know I’ll be relying on it as a resource for many years to come.
I’m grateful for the documentation and the 75 pages of references, but seldom find that outside of biomedical texts. What a luxury!
As I’ve been appreciating such richness, I couldn’t help wondering if providing so many pages of references felt like an obligation: a pre-emptive defense against the “junk science” epithet and all the other predictable industry attacks on those who provide a clear look at industry’s asault on science.
During the weeks of OSHA hearings, we heard tragic story after tragic story from nurses who had to give up their profession, poultry workers who couldn’t even hold their children, hotel workers who worked in pain all day long.
The industry lawyers actually accused them of facing injuries that they had actually received bowling or playing tennis after coming home from the meatpacking plant. These workers just couldn’t believe that anyone would ever believe that there was no science behind such obvious injuries.
Read that Charlotte Observer article I noted at the end of the review.
you are so right Peterr
Some of it is the media’s fault. But its hard for reporters to convince their editors to let them do stories about regulatory failures unless they have “victims” - but a system that allows exposure to a carcinogen now will cause illness decades from now - its just not a sexy story.
And what the Bush Admin is doing is rolling back or just not issuing regulations, and changing the structure of how the regulatory agencies work so that the next admin will have a lot of difficulty making things better. That’s hard to write about in a daily paper.
Someone asked me whether this book is appropriate for “newbies,” who don’t necessarily understand epidemiology. I may not be a good test case for that (although I haven’t taken a science class since high school), but I found the explanations of epidemiology and the how corporate “product defense” firms to be remarkable easy to understand. Every journalist should read this book.
It would seem that in order to pressure our government and politicians to have meaningful regulation we have to have an educated public prodding them. When our media does little to inform the public what other avenues might we try? Should we be doing informercials? What can we as individual citizens do?
I agree that every journalists should read this book. Are free copies being sent to them?
I wanted to be sure that my work didn’t fall into the “dueling docs” category - If I made some assertions that a polluter didn’t like, they would make the opposite assertion, and many readers, along with reporters and policy makers wouldn’t know who to believe. So I carefully documented every statment I made - and Oxford University Press had an attorney go over the book very carefully. I’d be happy to get into a dispute over the issues I raise - I am confident about what I’ve said, and I back it up with references galore.
Bill Moyers Expose did a story a few weeks that told the story of several journalists’ work in exploring the potential threat of the chemical Bisphenol A in Americans’ food. The regular journalists were a bit confuse, but luckily one of their journalists had a scientific background which made all the difference because she could understand which studies were good and which were BS, as well as how to look for who was sponsoring the research. You can view it here.
I’ve gotten requests from many journalists and I try to get them copies. We also have a lot of the material on www.DefendingScience.org, and our blog - The Pump Handle: http://thepumphandle.wordpress.com/
“What can we as individual citizens do?”
Good question. First, David, you have a number of solutions in the book that you may want to discuss, but many of them unfortunately don’t apply to “individual citizens.”
A good topic of discussion….
David, reading the chapter on the Daubert decision just makes me want to scream.
If I understand correctly, the landmark cases that forced Big Tobacco to enter settlements were pre-Daubert.
Do you see any potential for the petrochemical industry’s persistent and systematic misrepresentation of morbidity and mortality arising from their products forming the basis for confiscatory judgements that could force that industry into accepting settlements or face fiscal destuction?
(I’d be happy to see the liablity from the petrochemical industry’s fraud used as the basis for state/national seizure of Big Oil’s assets, but that’s just me…)
FWIW, I think you succeeded in warding off the “dueling docs” strategy. Kudos! (and props to Oxford Uninversity Press)
I’m not an attorney, but I don’t think the science bought and paid for by the petrochemical industry cans erve as the basis for any legal action per se.
But in the book, I call for “Sarbanes-Oxley for Science” - part of which is a requirement that corporate executives take responsibility for the science they pay for that is being used to shape (really slow) regulation.
Kind of like writing about the federal budget deficit or the public debt. “Yeah, it’s big, and it’s growing, but it’s tough to write about so let’s write about something else.”
Blergh.
Thanks for helping to call attention to the problem, David.
“What can we as individual citizens do?”
When the attempt to repeal the ergonomics standard began I expected workers of the world (or at least the nation) to rise up in righteous anger to smite any politician who voted against it. That didn’t come to pass. Other than those directly affected, people — even labor union members — weren’t educated enough to act fast enough (a matter of days) to lobby Congress. That was part of the reason I started Confined Space — to “pre-educate” people.
But all of us need to educate the journalists in our neighborhood — even if we non-scientists don’t have all the necessary information, we need to hook them up with people like David.
And for God’s sake, nag your Congressmen and Senators unmercifully. They have to know that people are paying attention AND they’re pissed off.
It is very hard for the average citizen to do anything here - except to pressure their legislators to have a system in which the best, non-conflicted scientists give advice to the public and policy makers.
Scientists with conflicts of interest cannot overcome those conflicts since the effects are so powerful, and also subliminal. Many do not know how their financial arrangements shape their thinking.
Is there any kind of organization for scientists similiar to the ABA or AMA where scientists can be disciplined by their peers for participating in junk science for profit?
There is not. And I don’t believe we need an organization - but we need to make sure that this science gets discussed and the names of the scientists openly talked about. This is regulation by shaming - it can be very effective, although some of these scientists clearly have no shame.
The recent press on Bisphenol A made me pull out my 1996 (paperback) copy of Our Stolen Future, where I reread many of the concerns (and findings) presented as “news” about Bisphenol A in 2008.
Though I’m happy to see the recent attention/efforts, the dozen-year lag confirms how effective the “doubt and delay” strategy has been.
If it is not too personal, I’d love to hear how you Jordan and how youo David keep hope alive and manage frustration over the years and decades when you know how toxic a substance is, yet find industry can lie and buy their way into keeping the substance on the market.
Wow, Jordan, what a great introduction. I am definitely adding this book to my cart at Amazon.
Welcome, Mr Michaels, this book sounds fascinating. My question is:
Throughout history, workers have been the guinea pigs, and their dead or sick bodies have stimulated much of the research and eventual regulation that we have today (And this isn’t ancient history. Two words: Popcorn Lung) This is a very sad system, but even that doesn’t work very well unless you happen to have some observant doctors and a disease that has unique characteristics (like diacetyl/popcorn lung). And another crucial help here is a labor union. With a union, workers hopefully have access to staff who know something about health and safety problems and know how to get in touch with experts. And a union can protect workers when they complain about their illnesses.
I am seeing the same tendency in other fields. A Columbia Law professor named William Simon just wrote a paper about legal scholars providing opinion letters for corporations enabling them to skirt the law, too.
I couldn’t access the first link but I was able to access the 2nd one. I noticed that the pumphandle blog had a blogroll but none of the blogs were ones like this one. Do you think it might help if you link to blogs like this one where people like me who might not be in your field will still be able to be exposed to your information even if we didn’t deliberately seek you out?
It is possible that a real focus on disease prevention to reduce costs might give some incentive to reduce toxic exposures - but I like to think that we should prevent diseases just because that’s the right thing to do. If prevention doesn’t pay (and it often doesn’t) that is no reason not to do it.
So in other words there is not much policing in any of those fields. Sounds like someone might want to start an organization that helps to expose these people who profit from the suffering of others in whatever field they happen to be working in.
My colleagues at the Project on Scientific Knowledge and Public Policy (SKAPP) are open to all suggestions. Please drop me a note offline later, with any outreach suggestions.
Sorry about miswriting the other link - here’s the correct one: http://defendingscience.org/
I like your idea pmorlan,
Actually, the organizations that do exactly this kind of shaming are the professional journals that publish the peer-reviewed research on which the scientific community depends.
Scientists who put their name to junk science used to cover up (rather than illuminate) accurate research have a helluva time getting anything published. The story you tell @ 21 is a perfect example of how the leading journals in a particular field are moving to do this kind of discipline.
We are certainly trying to do that - One of the things I’ve done in the book (and linked on the website) is to put up the original documents - showing meeting minutes, for example, of trade associations, where scientists who worked for tobacco sell their services to other industries - saying this is what we can do for you.
The Hall of Shame
How do we “keep hope alive and manage frustration over the years and decades when you know how toxic a substance is, yet find industry can lie and buy their way into keeping the substance on the market?”
Good question. I’ve been working in Washington now for over 30 years (ugh!), although a good part of that time has been spent traveling and talking to workers about their health and safety concerns. I just focus on two things: keeping things from getting any worse (which is hard enough), and trying to educate people in hopes that we can take a few small steps forward when the opportunity arises.
And speaking of the opportunity, I’ve been accused of taking (unfair?) advantage of workplace catastrophes and exploiting tragedy to push my “agenda” (which would be worker protections.) To that I say “Damn straight!” We need to be armed with information like that in David’s book and anything else we can so that when some catastrophe happens that reaches the front pages and the 6:00 news, we’re ready with an action plan — media, legislative, electoral, whatever… We need to use those opportunities, and yes, even the dead bodies. I’m sure those who have died in workplace tragedies would be happy to have their deaths used in a struggle to make sure it doesn’t happen to anyone else.
OK, off the soap box for a few minutes….
Is that at the pumphandle website?
We work very hard to make sure none of these scientists get appointed to Federal Advisory Committees. They work hard to get on them, because they make their money shaping or stopping regulation, so if they can be the givers of advice to the agencies, they are worth a lot of $$ to polluters. But many have been appointed anyway, needless to say.
I was the lead author on an editorial in Science magazine a few years ago on the Bush Admin stacking advisory panels. This was a part of that.
Start here: http://defendingscience.org/Do.....roduct.cfm
Some of the smoking guns are here:
http://defendingscience.org/Doubt-Documents.cfm
The rest are linked through the references.
I think there is a strong undercurrent of anti-science in our country and this plays into the hands of industry groups trying to introduce doubt about scientific facts. Science is considered uncool and working people generally don’t trust it. They say things like “in the real world…” as if scientists are disconnected with the real world.
I think there is a vicious circle where people are ignorant of science so they don’t trust it, so the don’t value science education, so they are ignorant…
So tell us about some of the other solutions you take about David.
This probably isn’t the time or place to ask this but are there any entry level job opportunities in the field of health and safety for workers? While I’m no spring chicken I’d certainly like to be involved even it means just doing clerical work to help those that are leading the charge on this extremely important issue.
This ‘exploitation’ of the victims has a name in BushWorld: the Blame Game. They wield it mercilessly at anyone who proposes practical solutions, fact-finding, and accountability in the wake of any disaster. “Not playing the Blame Game” protects their corporate cronies until the disaster is off the front page and out of public awareness.
I think playing the Blame Game is an important part of assessing any disaster. And you are correct — who but the dead victims would be better advocates for reform and correction, if they could only speak?
David, in 1998/99 I was part of PSR-LA and worked with LA Safe Schools to force the LAUSD to invert their pest control policy into one based on the precautionary principle: that drove (and still drives) the district to use “least-toxic” methods [degrease the cafeteria kitchen rather than spray it - what a concept!].
The pp empowered community members to sidestep the “dueling doc” strategy and the “waitingfor the body count” strategy, and it immediately appealed to the elected LAUSD Baord members (some of whom pull in more votes than elected Congresscritters).
And all of a sudden Monsanto stopped sending reps to the public policy meeting: we’d disarmed them. Whole lotta Roundup (now known to be associated with lymphoma) didn’t get sprayed around playing fields and palygrounds.
I was and am struck by what power the pp brings to members of the public and elected officials confronting toxic industies and policies.
I agree with your point in “tricks of the trade” that overzealous use of the pp can be detrimental (any idea used as an ideology seems to cary that risk). With that reservation in mind, when you were in Federal service, to what extent did the “on the line” scientists and regualtors (as opposed to the Executive Branch appointees) embrace the pp as a vehicle in which to roll over the industry “doubt” tricks you describe so well.
More than a third of Americans believe in angels.
I agree with Jordan - the terrible toll of people who are killed at work is mostly invisible and therefore unknown or forgotten. Jordan started an invaluable listing of workers killed on the job - it is now compiled by Tammy Miser - at http://weeklytoll.blogspot.com/
These are flesh and blood reminders why something has to be done about these problems.
good point, we can’t even manage the metric system
I don’t think religion necessarily conflicts with science. I’m more concerned that more than a half of Americans don’t believe in evolution.
Thank you very much for the links and for the book. And thank you for making a difference!
I know you probably don’t hear it much but rest assured that a lot of us have deep respect for those of you who committ so much of your time in an effort to help protect the rest of us.
I’ll try to be quiet now and give others a chance.
That is certainly part of it. But another part is the cartoon version of science that many Americans have. Something like: science is the search for the truth, scientists are trying to get there together. If they disagree, we simply must wait longer for the truth to come out, so we can’t, or shouldn’t, take any steps until the controversy gets resolved.
This allows polluters to manufacture scientific uncertainty. The title of my book comes from a memo written by a tobacco executive:
“Doubt is our product since it is the best means of competing with the ‘body of fact’ that exists in the minds of the general public. It is also the means of establishing a controversy”
Working at UCLA as a shrink in the medical (not psych) hospital, I learned that a certain major “birth defect” or fetal abnormality (babies born with their intestines protruding out from their abdomen, with no or very little “covering” was predictably asociated with ag workers in the Central Valley. Nurses would guess (accurately) where the baby was from and what the parents’ occupation (farm worker) and sometimes the crop(s) before the air evac flight carrying the latest such infant ever touched down. Many wanted to do something, but we of course were boung by HIPPA. The parents were terrified of disclosure (feared loss of job and often deportation).
I still hope to see academic medicine (one school at a time) build real-time communication about these “sentinel cases” into the PR shops all major med schools have. Talking about the concept (without breaking HIPPA/ pt confidentiality) after gainig family permission could be an effective strategy and powerful tool.
Alas (or thank goodness), I won’t be a med school dean - but I hope to see the idea taken up.
“job opportunities in the field of health and safety for workers? “
Excellent question and major need. I joke (but it’s not much of a joke) that when I started in workplace safety I was one of the youngest one at meetings — and I still am.
During the Carter administration, when Eula Bingham ran OSHA, the agency began a training grant program which funded labor (and public interest) health and safety programs, and hired a lot of activists who are still in the field (at least the ones who haven’t retired). That money slowly tricked away during Reagan and Bush. We started to revive it under Clintion and have been fighting successfully to maintain it during Bush II. But it’s a pittance ($10 million) compared with the money that goes into compliance assistance activities for employers. Unions aren’t doing to well financially, so we need to make sure when the opportunity arrises to put more money into bringing people into this field.
The other problem is that when there’s no money and no attention, and OSHA is totally demoralized, and unions are under attack, workplace safety issues seem less “sexy,” so there’s less demand — at the union, university and professional level. In other words, we need to work on supply and demand.
Meanwhile, if you live in a large city, there are opportunities with COSH groups. Contact me offline (jbarab@gmail.com)
yep I’ll be quiet too.
Sorry for babbling somuch. The reason (though not an excuse) is that your work, David (and Jordan’s work) touches my heart. Thanks to you both.
Kirk: One thing this society is NOT plagued with is people who babble too much about these issues.
I wish you and pmorlan wouldn’t be quiet, you are both adding so much to the discussion.
In fact, most scientists working for regulatory agencies (at least till they were depopulated by the current admin) saw through the tricks easily, but had to address all the issues raised by the mercenary scientists because they knew that the same arguments would come up in legal challenges to the standards. Polluters would say - “you didn’t take these studies into account”.
Its a successful strategy. I have one set of hand written notes how scientists consulting for tobacco explain to tobacco lawyers how they could tie up a regulatory agency for two years with the right questions. These same scientists are now working for the makers of Bisphenol A, the chemical in plastic baby bottles of recent controversy.
Thank you. And what I said to David @69 applies to you too.
Perhaps this points to the “victim” that is needed, before some editors and/or journalists will write about things like this: ordinary scientists and teachers of science, whose work and life is being maligned by the junk science promulgated by unscrupulous corporations.
I say this not to minimize or forget those who are injured or killed by the lack of regulation or controls on product uses, but to point to others who might appear to “regular readers of our paper” (as editors call them) as ordinary folks who are immediately impacted by junk science.
In many ways, we are moving backwards on many of these issues. Undocumented workers are moving into the most dangerous of the remaining industrial jobs in the US (like meatpacking). Aside from occasional newspaper exposes, they are entirely ignored, and when they are injured, they return to their homelands, crippled and forgotten here. The cost of this dangerous work is socialized not in the US (as was the case 20 years ago) but by poor villagers in Latin America.
One other comment about what individual citizens can do. You may not have noticed, but this is an election year, and I don’t think the environment, much less workplace safety is very high on the list of things that voters are concerned with.
So when you’re meeting with candidates, especially local candidates, start brining these issues up. They can dismiss one “crank,” but when they start hearing the same concerns from six or seven and then ten or twelve voters, they might decide to ask their staff to look into it.
That’s right. But for many environmentally caused conditions, we can identify the victim only statistically. Look at radon - the EPA estimates thousands of radon-related ling cancers occur annually. Have you ever heard of someone with ling cancer attributed to radon?
Just.can’t.help.it
I gotta ask: might individual civil suits targeting the “rent a consultant” types who make fortunes falsely denying harm on behalf of their
johnindustry of the moment start to damage polluters’ use of these tools (both senses of the word) in making false and misleading statemetns re the safety of their products? IIRC, the same strategy was used by various state AG’s against tobacco - and the tobacco co’s have much larger legal budgets.As the strategy succeeded against tobacco, it still seems to me it cold be used in an analogous fashion against “experts” colluding in misrepresentation.
[Not to be difficult, but I guess I don’t see why this successful strategy could not also be used in response to the petrochemical industry’s long and deliberate misrepresentation campaign.]
I can hardly wait to read David’s book. I remember reading Alicia Mundy’s book, Dispensing with Truth, which detailed the fight against Fen-Phen. I also enjoyed David Kessler’s book on the tobacco industry. There was another book that I read about Archers Daniels Midland that was scary and fascinating.
Great suggestion.
Both those books influenced me, too.
The Bush lie that ergonomics is not “hard science” is like their arguments over global warming. It’s primarily cost-avoidance, but it’s also about the primacy of business interests over those of citizens. Europeans, whose governments offer universal health care and, therefore, prize preventive (less expensive) medical care, have recognized ergonomic science for decades. University College London’s master’s degree in ergonomics and computer science is just one example.
The neocons’ principal rationale is hatred of the notion that government has a right, sometimes an obligation, to regulate business. Despite the fact that interstate commerce was of such agreed importance that the Constitution explicitly gives the federal government authority to regulate it.
Regulation imposes standards and costs on businesses, rather than allowing them to offload those costs onto their employees or customers. Businesses, of course, want to avoid those costs and, philosophically, any limitation on management’s unrestricted right to dictate and change work conditions. (Hence, their promotion of such things a Right to
FireWork laws in many states.Businesses have fought such regulations since the turn of the 19th-20th centuries, when Upton Sinclair’s exposure of working conditions in the meatpacking industry helped convince a reluctant government to establish the FDA and the Labor Departments. The price for such government attention to its citizens was the business community’s demand for “equal protection”, which gave us, in part, the Commerce Department.
It’s not about science. It’s about whose voice the government listens to, who gets a share in making decisions and benefiting from public tax dollars. Big Oil, Big Timber, Big Ag and Big Coal shouldn’t be the only ones whose voices are heard or who receive enormous subsidies at taxpayer expense.
Going after the product defense consultants seems like a great idea. I’d be fascinated to see what happens.
By the way, one of the groups I write about The Weinberg Group, recently changed its website - it now does “product Support” not “Product Defense”.
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