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	<title>Comments on: Steny Hoyer FISA Ad To Run in Washington Post</title>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/20/steny-hoyer-fisa-ad-to-run-in-washington-post/#comment-1506639</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i wish that somehow the ads could list all who voted ’yea’ on this…in one big display…seems that would be covering more ground at once in each ad….their names listed, over and over and over and over and over  again.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wish that somehow the ads could list all who voted ’yea’ on this…in one big display…seems that would be covering more ground at once in each ad….their names listed, over and over and over and over and over  again.</p>
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		<title>By: peony</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/20/steny-hoyer-fisa-ad-to-run-in-washington-post/#comment-1506619</link>
		<dc:creator>peony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My guess is Obama feels vulnerable on national security.  Notice how he trotted out those dinosaurs from the Clinton Administration for his national security team.  Wants to show he can be commander in chief.  Thing is I don’t think anyone can be president of the United States who doesn’t buy into this mind set for war and American supremacy/hegemony.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is Obama feels vulnerable on national security.  Notice how he trotted out those dinosaurs from the Clinton Administration for his national security team.  Wants to show he can be commander in chief.  Thing is I don’t think anyone can be president of the United States who doesn’t buy into this mind set for war and American supremacy/hegemony.</p>
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		<title>By: peony</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/20/steny-hoyer-fisa-ad-to-run-in-washington-post/#comment-1506488</link>
		<dc:creator>peony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“This is just the beginning. We’ve now raised over $266,000 and we’re working hard to put it to good use, and make sure a price is exacted for this abuse of the public trust.” JH&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, let’s make ‘em cry for their mama.  Obama’s not getting another dime from me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“This is just the beginning. We’ve now raised over $266,000 and we’re working hard to put it to good use, and make sure a price is exacted for this abuse of the public trust.” JH</p>
<p>Yeah, let’s make ‘em cry for their mama.  Obama’s not getting another dime from me.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterK</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeterK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m hoping that your odds are a bit low.  Dodd did make a big big point of opposing this before.  I will write him a “this is the moment” email over the weekend.  Maybe some pressure there will help him buck the hierarchy (disgusting jerks).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m hoping that your odds are a bit low.  Dodd did make a big big point of opposing this before.  I will write him a “this is the moment” email over the weekend.  Maybe some pressure there will help him buck the hierarchy (disgusting jerks).</p>
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		<title>By: nonplussed</title>
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		<dc:creator>nonplussed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah and they can brute force decrypt it in how long. They own more super-computers than anyone else ot they used to when we were a first line country. That was way back in the Echelon days, too. I run tor, too, so i know everything I just said is not news to you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;EFF &amp; Cryptogram! I’m getting drunk to mark the day the music died.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah and they can brute force decrypt it in how long. They own more super-computers than anyone else ot they used to when we were a first line country. That was way back in the Echelon days, too. I run tor, too, so i know everything I just said is not news to you.</p>
<p>EFF &amp; Cryptogram! I’m getting drunk to mark the day the music died.</p>
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		<title>By: NMRon</title>
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		<dc:creator>NMRon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just canceled my contribution to BO.  My money’s going to colorofchange, strangedfellows et. al. now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just canceled my contribution to BO.  My money’s going to colorofchange, strangedfellows et. al. now.</p>
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		<title>By: Twain</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/20/steny-hoyer-fisa-ad-to-run-in-washington-post/#comment-1506470</link>
		<dc:creator>Twain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;True and we must keep our eyes on the goal. GOOD Dems, progressive Dems, and lots of sunshine on what they are doing. We do, however, need the WH and the Congress - otherwise, our agenda is gone.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True and we must keep our eyes on the goal. GOOD Dems, progressive Dems, and lots of sunshine on what they are doing. We do, however, need the WH and the Congress &#8211; otherwise, our agenda is gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Peterr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/20/steny-hoyer-fisa-ad-to-run-in-washington-post/#comment-1506467</link>
		<dc:creator>Peterr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;When we finish throwing our collective temper tantrum it will still be the SUPREME COURT - first, last, and always.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And it will be &lt;a href=&quot;http://blueamerica.firedoglake.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blue America&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Local races like US Representative may not be as sexy as presidential races, but today proved that they matter a great deal. Donna Edwards was needed today, but more than that, we need more like her.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Steny, not so much.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When we finish throwing our collective temper tantrum it will still be the SUPREME COURT &#8211; first, last, and always.</p>
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<p>And it will be <a href="http://blueamerica.firedoglake.com/" rel="nofollow">Blue America</a>.</p>
<p>Local races like US Representative may not be as sexy as presidential races, but today proved that they matter a great deal. Donna Edwards was needed today, but more than that, we need more like her.</p>
<p>Steny, not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: boogiecheck</title>
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		<dc:creator>boogiecheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Joe Donnelly voted for it…not a surprise.  This is the email I received when I sent a note with my concerns of illegal wiretapping:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;My top priority as your Congressman is to ensure that our country is equipped &lt;strong&gt;to prevent and respond to threats against American interests, &lt;/strong&gt;both at home and abroad. Nothing is more important to me than protecting our nation from those who would do us harm. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As you know, the 1978 FISA law governs the domestic collection of foreign intelligence. Last summer, our intelligence agencies disclosed that a large backlog of FISA court warrant requests had formed because the law had not adequately been updated to take into account technological advancements. In addition, the decision by a federal intelligence court judge that even some foreign-to-foreign communications require FISA review further underscored the need to modernize existing surveillance law.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;On August 4, 2007, I joined the House of Representatives in passing S. 1927, The Protect America Act, which the president signed into law the next day on August 5. S. 1927 was designed to temporarily allow the Director of National Intelligence and the Attorney General to collect electronic surveillance of individuals reasonably believed to be outside the United States without a FISA court warrant.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;If the subject of the requested surveillance was located inside the United States , the FISA court was required to review and authorize the request before any surveillance was conducted.&lt;/strong&gt; This six-month law, temporary by design to allow in-depth debate and the careful crafting of a responsible and permanent update to FISA law, expired on February 16, 2008.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On February 14, I voted to extend the temporary law for another 21 days to allow Congress and the President more time to complete an update of FISA law. The extension failed to pass the House and following that vote, I voted against a motion to adjourn for the upcoming Presidents’ Day recess because I felt that Congress needed to stay in session until we could bring the FISA matter to resolution. Although the Protect America Act has expired, America has not been left in the dark. Existing surveillance warrants authorized under the expired law will remain valid through August, and law enforcement and intelligence officials still possess all the tools they did prior to last August as the permanent, 1978 FISA law is still in effect.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As you probably know, one contentious issue has been whether Congress should provide existing immunity protections retroactively to telecommunications companies that may have cooperated with President Bush’s now defunct warrantless surveillance program. To date, the full House has not considered any legislation providing retroactive immunity. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I believe Congress and the president should put aside their partisan differences and get down to the business of crafting a new FISA law for the 21st Century that provides the necessary tools to the intelligence community to keep American secure, &lt;strong&gt;while also safeguarding our civil liberties. &lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you again for contacting me about this important issue. Please do not hesitate to write, call or email me again if I can ever be of assistance. Also, if you would like to receive regular updates on my actions on your behalf in Congress, sign up for my e-newsletter, The Donnelly Dispatch, at &lt;a href=&quot;http://donnelly.house.gov.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://donnelly.house.gov.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                                                  Sincerely,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                                                  Joe Donnelly&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;                                                                  Member of Congress
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&lt;p&gt;First, he didn’t address the illegality of wiretapping without a warrant.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Secondly, notice that he frames the need for this to “protect American interests”…not terrorism, but interests…curious wording there.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Last, he fails to make a case of why telecoms deserve to be shielded from lawsuits after breaking the law.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Donnelly voted for it…not a surprise.  This is the email I received when I sent a note with my concerns of illegal wiretapping:</p>
<blockquote><p>My top priority as your Congressman is to ensure that our country is equipped <strong>to prevent and respond to threats against American interests, </strong>both at home and abroad. Nothing is more important to me than protecting our nation from those who would do us harm. </p>
<p>As you know, the 1978 FISA law governs the domestic collection of foreign intelligence. Last summer, our intelligence agencies disclosed that a large backlog of FISA court warrant requests had formed because the law had not adequately been updated to take into account technological advancements. In addition, the decision by a federal intelligence court judge that even some foreign-to-foreign communications require FISA review further underscored the need to modernize existing surveillance law.</p>
<p><strong>On August 4, 2007, I joined the House of Representatives in passing S. 1927, The Protect America Act, which the president signed into law the next day on August 5. S. 1927 was designed to temporarily allow the Director of National Intelligence and the Attorney General to collect electronic surveillance of individuals reasonably believed to be outside the United States without a FISA court warrant.</strong> <strong>If the subject of the requested surveillance was located inside the United States , the FISA court was required to review and authorize the request before any surveillance was conducted.</strong> This six-month law, temporary by design to allow in-depth debate and the careful crafting of a responsible and permanent update to FISA law, expired on February 16, 2008.</p>
<p>On February 14, I voted to extend the temporary law for another 21 days to allow Congress and the President more time to complete an update of FISA law. The extension failed to pass the House and following that vote, I voted against a motion to adjourn for the upcoming Presidents’ Day recess because I felt that Congress needed to stay in session until we could bring the FISA matter to resolution. Although the Protect America Act has expired, America has not been left in the dark. Existing surveillance warrants authorized under the expired law will remain valid through August, and law enforcement and intelligence officials still possess all the tools they did prior to last August as the permanent, 1978 FISA law is still in effect.</p>
<p>As you probably know, one contentious issue has been whether Congress should provide existing immunity protections retroactively to telecommunications companies that may have cooperated with President Bush’s now defunct warrantless surveillance program. To date, the full House has not considered any legislation providing retroactive immunity. </p>
<p>I believe Congress and the president should put aside their partisan differences and get down to the business of crafting a new FISA law for the 21st Century that provides the necessary tools to the intelligence community to keep American secure, <strong>while also safeguarding our civil liberties. </strong> </p>
<p>Thank you again for contacting me about this important issue. Please do not hesitate to write, call or email me again if I can ever be of assistance. Also, if you would like to receive regular updates on my actions on your behalf in Congress, sign up for my e-newsletter, The Donnelly Dispatch, at <a href="http://donnelly.house.gov." rel="nofollow">http://donnelly.house.gov.</a></p>
<p>                                                                  Sincerely,</p>
<p>                                                                  Joe Donnelly</p>
<p>                                                                  Member of Congress
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<p>First, he didn’t address the illegality of wiretapping without a warrant.</p>
<p>Secondly, notice that he frames the need for this to “protect American interests”…not terrorism, but interests…curious wording there.  </p>
<p>Last, he fails to make a case of why telecoms deserve to be shielded from lawsuits after breaking the law.</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/20/steny-hoyer-fisa-ad-to-run-in-washington-post/#comment-1506463</link>
		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/20/mccain-to-latinos-im-your-pal-just-dont-tell-anyone/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dave Neiwert a few flights upstairs&lt;/a&gt; on McCain and Latinos.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/20/mccain-to-latinos-im-your-pal-just-dont-tell-anyone/" rel="nofollow">Dave Neiwert a few flights upstairs</a> on McCain and Latinos.</p>
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