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	<title>Comments on: FISA Passes in House</title>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/20/fisa-passes-in-house/#comment-1506408</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why are the motivations of 2/3rds of the “Representatives” completely opaque? Why don’t we understand why they do what they do?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think there is a mistaken view that we are their constituents.  The truth is their constituents are corporations, the wealthy, the connected, and each other.  If you look at it this way, things sharpen up and come into focus fast.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why are the motivations of 2/3rds of the “Representatives” completely opaque? Why don’t we understand why they do what they do?</p>
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<p>I think there is a mistaken view that we are their constituents.  The truth is their constituents are corporations, the wealthy, the connected, and each other.  If you look at it this way, things sharpen up and come into focus fast.</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/20/fisa-passes-in-house/#comment-1506406</link>
		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Then donate to Blue America PAC instead.  It is totally outside ActBlue and the support goes for Progressive Dems and things like information ads against Stainy Whore&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then donate to Blue America PAC instead.  It is totally outside ActBlue and the support goes for Progressive Dems and things like information ads against Stainy Whore</p>
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		<title>By: wrensis</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/20/fisa-passes-in-house/#comment-1506404</link>
		<dc:creator>wrensis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Christy for the vote tally&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Christy for the vote tally</p>
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		<title>By: behindthefall</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/20/fisa-passes-in-house/#comment-1506397</link>
		<dc:creator>behindthefall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is a very well-informed group of people at FDL, so:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why are the motivations of 2/3rds of the “Representatives” completely opaque?  Why don’t we understand why they do what they do?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very well-informed group of people at FDL, so:</p>
<p>Why are the motivations of 2/3rds of the “Representatives” completely opaque?  Why don’t we understand why they do what they do?</p>
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		<title>By: victoreador</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/20/fisa-passes-in-house/#comment-1506394</link>
		<dc:creator>victoreador</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey Serge! here’s what ActBlue did to you:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gillibrand, Herseth, Boyda, McNerney, Sestak, &amp; etc…(only a partial list) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ALL&lt;/strong&gt; ActBlue-&lt;strong&gt;ALL&lt;/strong&gt; voting for this atrocious betrayal of Democracy and the Constitution&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ActBlue has lost my limited donation budget.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Serge! here’s what ActBlue did to you:</p>
<p>Gillibrand, Herseth, Boyda, McNerney, Sestak, &amp; etc…(only a partial list) </p>
<p><strong>ALL</strong> ActBlue-<strong>ALL</strong> voting for this atrocious betrayal of Democracy and the Constitution<em></em><em></em>.</p>
<p>ActBlue has lost my limited donation budget.</p>
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		<title>By: victoreador</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/20/fisa-passes-in-house/#comment-1506384</link>
		<dc:creator>victoreador</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m with you Al! This is the &lt;strong&gt;Constitution&lt;/strong&gt; they’re shredding here!&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt; If ever leadership was demanded, it’s here in defense of the sacred oath they all betrayed!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m taking the additional step of writing to ActBlue to demand a refund of all my many contributions to their candidates who voted for this abomination:&lt;br /&gt;
Gillibrand, Herseth, Boyda, McNerney, Sestak, et al.. I’ve completely lost trust in ActBlue’s ability to identify worthy progressives. I’m unsubscribing from their email and action lists and will look elsewhere for reliable analysis and advice on candidates’ character and commitment.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m with you Al! This is the <strong>Constitution</strong> they’re shredding here!<em></em> If ever leadership was demanded, it’s here in defense of the sacred oath they all betrayed!</p>
<p>I’m taking the additional step of writing to ActBlue to demand a refund of all my many contributions to their candidates who voted for this abomination:<br />
Gillibrand, Herseth, Boyda, McNerney, Sestak, et al.. I’ve completely lost trust in ActBlue’s ability to identify worthy progressives. I’m unsubscribing from their email and action lists and will look elsewhere for reliable analysis and advice on candidates’ character and commitment.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Clausen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/20/fisa-passes-in-house/#comment-1506356</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Clausen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I will carry on for (((Steve Gilliard and Quaker Girl))) among so many others.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will carry on for (((Steve Gilliard and Quaker Girl))) among so many others.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/20/fisa-passes-in-house/#comment-1506328</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ok. will do.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok. will do.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/20/fisa-passes-in-house/#comment-1506298</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I would make a footnote or extra mention.  In some ways his vote didn’t count because the bill was going to pass anyway but OTOH to be the only Republican who voted No certainly stands out.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would make a footnote or extra mention.  In some ways his vote didn’t count because the bill was going to pass anyway but OTOH to be the only Republican who voted No certainly stands out.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/20/fisa-passes-in-house/#comment-1506282</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i recommend item #12 on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.netrootsmass.net/Hugh/Bush_List.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hugh’s list&lt;/a&gt; for the background.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and if you want an example of how these votes can be gamed, so that we don’t know who is really supporting us and who is playing cya, you might want to take a look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/8/9/175141/9215&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my old diary&lt;/a&gt; from last august on the house PAA vote then.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i recommend item #12 on <a href="http://www.netrootsmass.net/Hugh/Bush_List.html" rel="nofollow">hugh’s list</a> for the background.</p>
<p>and if you want an example of how these votes can be gamed, so that we don’t know who is really supporting us and who is playing cya, you might want to take a look at <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/8/9/175141/9215" rel="nofollow">my old diary</a> from last august on the house PAA vote then.</p>
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