Here comes the torrent of bullshit.
Yesterday morning Floyd Brown and Co. sent out a press release and e-mail announcing the Barack Obama's brother had acknowledged he was raised Muslim -- something that Obama himself has denied.
According to Floyd Brown, of ExposeObama.com, “Malik Obama, Barack’s half brother, confirms that Barack grew up Muslim.”
Except, of course, that the half-brother never said any such thing. The quote upon which they rely for the claim was a reporter's not-very-accurate paraphrase; the actual quotes make clear the brother in question converted to Islam well into his adulthood, and never hinted that they'd had a Muslim upbringing (they hadn't).
Yet like flies to shit, the wingnutosphere sure-enough pounced on it with glee, from Crazy Pam Atlas to LGF to, well, you don't want to go creeping around some of the corners of the blogosphere where you could find this. But there was also Brit Hume on Fox spreading it:
Throughout his campaign, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has assured his supporters that he is a Christian. He has been battling what his campaign calls an online "smear campaign," which contends, among other things, that Obama was raised as a Muslim. There is even a statement on his official campaign Web site reading, "Obama has never been a Muslim and is a committed Christian."
But, Obama's half-brother is not so sure. Malik Obama tells the Jerusalem Post that if elected his brother will be a good president for the Jewish people — despite his Muslim background.
This one doesn't come close to passing the sniff test. Even Jake Tapper, who sometimes turns a blind eye to this crap, noticed that the claim was completely bogus:
This interpretation spreading throughout the blogosphere and cable news is just not supported by the facts. The paraphrase was sloppy, for such a sensitive subject, and Malik's quotes don't even come close to supporting any assertion that Obama himself has a Muslim background.
Just remember: These stories originate from the very same folks who brought you Willie Horton, the "Clinton conspiracies," the Swift Boaters, and whatever package of lies and bullshit was up for circulating in any given election year of the past two decades. And they're being run by far-right crackpots -- including an "executive director" who was disbarred for selling right-wing tax-fraud conspiracy scams.
Good enough for Fox and the wingnutosphere, obviously.
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It’s a lack of self awareness in its purest form with these people. It’s like they don’t even care if they have any credibility at this point.
They are scared shitless.
Actually, I get the clear feeling they don’t. They didn’t really have any credibility in those other situations either — in fact, it allowed the candidates they were supporting to benefit from the distance that resulted while still reaping the benefits — but they were still very effective.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. They are just lashing out in all directions because they don’t know what else to do. The right wing is going down and they know it.
This is the end of one smear merchant speaking
from Kos
http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....915/538089
Well, I would say they are throwing whatever turds they can find against the wall and seeing what sticks.
What is wrong with being Muslim. It is one of the great religions, as great as Christianity. I thought that you turkeys had freedom of religion.
Pueblo County Sheriff’s Office website states NO BOND. Seems Larry’s gonna spend a while in the DC jail. Bet that’ll be fun. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. heh
Nothing is wrong with it. I find them waaaaay less scary than Southern Baptists.
What is he in for?
I thought that you turkeys had freedom of religion.
Used to - but it has always been suspended during election season. And as a general proposition, I don’t know that such pre-9/11 thinking should be allowed around here. /s
I think that there’s a list of acceptable religions buried in a defense appropriations bill somewhere…
What is he in for?
Litterin’?
I know some wingers and my dad was a proud Bircher and they are absolutely convinced that they are absolutely right. Not “I’m right”, but “I’m God-blessed correct–and no less than my country’s survival depends on my doing whatever it takes to keep my guys in power and the evil Democrats out”.
Dirty tricks are the application of the whatever it takes part of their mindset.
It’s really weird; if I say something that seems unfair to them they are all over it, demanding fairness. If they say or do something unfair or outright lie, they defend it as action that is righteous to the higher cause, which I am an enemy of. Anything goes if it forwards the cause.
Back up the bus Balzar. No poster or commenter here has EVER said there is anything wrong with being Muslim. Further more, this site has been a bastion of not only tolerance, but TRUTH. Truth, free from bullshit try to get a cheap dig in, like you just did. You have chosen to engage the wrong group.
Mr.Cbl
Thanks for the post, Dave.
But he was arrested on a Delaware charge…! If Larry clears that charge, I’m sure Pueblo will step in then…! ;-)
What a loser Sinclair is…
http://youtube.com/watch?v=r3hJASCerAk
Does anyone know what the charges are against Sinclair?
Oh that’s hysterical. hehehe
Everything I’ve read says he was arrested on a fugitive warrant from CO. The warrant is for “Theft Forgery.”
Exactly. And Obama needs to come out strongly on this.
More on Sinclair’s arrest here.
The Colorado ones include forgery and related charges from him forging his name on other peoples IRS refund checks. He has previously served time for forgery and other con games - all of it involving lying and manipulating other people.
Dave, Thanks for the post. It’s interesting because I still don’t blame Kerry for not fighting harder against the Swift Boaters. They were not the ones who carried the message, it was the MSM. Obama is definitely a stronger candidate and when the Wright episode came up, he did give an excellent speech on religion which toned it down. Kudos to Jake at ABC for at least setting the record straight on the latest smear.
wait a minute - this is real? I thought it was a joke.
Maybe we should send The National Press Club a thank-you note?
You gotta love it! Have we heard from the National Press Club?
Speculation is that the arrest stemmed from a Delaware warrant, although there is also an outstanding felony warrant out for Sinclair from the Pueblo County (CO) Sheriff’s Department.
The CO warrant is here
First link no workie. Try this.
We aren’t going to hear from the National Press Club cause they all got head from Larry Sinclair right before the speech.
You are soooo bad!
Thanks. What’s so interesting is most of the Freepers aren’t buying Sinclair’s claims against Obama either:
((((WARNING…FREE REPUBLIC LINK…bluck))))
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2032794/posts
Oh but I bet other Cro-Magnons are!
Interesting revelation…!
LMAO Mary!
Nope, probably not. They were all whining about Jane and the firepups picking on them about this. We are all just totally misinformed and he was just renting a room. Then some dope said ‘we’ were suppressing Larry’s right to free speech.
Have we heard from the National Press Club?
I’m thinking that maybe they’ve heard (plenty) from us.
Nothing lends credibility to one’s anti-Obama accusations like being arrested (on unrelated crimes) immediately thereafter.
BWAAAHAAHAAAHAAA!!
That little video clip of the petitions being delivered to the NPC takes on a whole new meaning.
I loved this part…
I love the smell of rank irony in the late afternoon.
Brazen. These people are brazen.
Hey Loo Hoo, I’m thinking of your friend Daryl and his brother’s past brush with the good law.
Birds of a feather….
Ha - just thought of this - Sibley is suspended so he cannot represent Larry as long as he’s still in DC. WHat a hoot.
Plus Larry was crying the blues on his website a couple days ago about he didn’t have the money to pay the NPC the rent and was literally begging for donations.
Hmmm…wonder if NPC actually got paid?
Gawd, since MSNBC is only paying homage to Russert today, I’m forced to watch CNN… Lou Dobbs was just touting McInsane’s views on off-shore drilling and ‘illegal aliens’… Gahhh…!
In knobbers?
Apparently Michelle O. did a good job on the View…
http://weblogs.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/blog/
Still? oy.
well, how can you say they didn’t have credibility and were effective at the same time? some dumbshits must have believed them!
eeeewwww!
was he the one wearing a kilt?
M$NBC is STILL singin’ that song? The troops don’t get that kind of coverage.
They are STILL playing the Russert thing? What are they thinking - it’s not as if he were Mother Teresa.
Exactly. Too bad there isn’t some rule that they have to spend just ONE whole day on each soldier killed. Of course they’d be so far behind already they would be doing the stories for the next ten years.
As an atheist myself, one mythology or ‘tother, it’s all the same to me! I just can’t understand why one has to claim one to run for office.
I know. What I heard reported is that the service was “private” but the family wanted it “televised”. It didn’t make sense when I heard that…the man wasn’t a head of state or anything. Come on.
I suppose next they will want a memorial on the Capital mall.
KO to the rescue! Talking about McBrain’s choice to support off-shore drilling at this point in the campaign.
jayt note to McBrain - Thanks for handing us Florida!
What’s up? These stories are cut from TPM:
Heh, far from it… I’m no fan of him and I’m disgusted with the reverence being displayed…! I feel for his family, tho…!
This is one area where I think that Obama made a mistake. He has been running around denying that he is Muslim, and his camp has been saying that allegations that he is Muslim are “smears”. I think Obama could have done a better job of explaining that being Muslim is NOT a smear.
Of course, our lovely Chimp-In-Chief and his cronies have done a good job convincing the 28%ers that being a Muslim = being a terrorist. That’s why it has become a smear.
We all know they live on a different planet and he was the head dude on the planet. They ought to give MTP to Rachel Maddow.
Right on!!! I was seriously worried that KO would be pre-empted…!
ooohh, pictures on KO of Obama sitting with a large group of generals - immediately to his left -> Wes Clarke.
Me no likey…
Of course, but it’s not as if he found a cure for a disease, or worked in homeless shelters. He was a newsman - eh, make that spokesman for the WH.
Please pardon my dunceness, it might be the over 100 degrees heat, but, what are knobbers?
As if…! The beltway crew would cower in fear and decline all invites…! Rachel would be hurling high heaters, not the softball lobs of Russert…!
They ought to give MTP to Rachel Maddow.
Agreed. Add in the bonus effect of Chris Matthews’ head exploding, and it’s a glorious two-fer.
They just refuse to take him at his word on this issue, which is troubling on a multitude of fronts…
Even if Obama actually
a Muslim at some point in his life (which he wasn’t, but for the sake of argument), why do the wingnutters have a problem with him converting to Christianity? Isn’t that their ultimate goal? To convert everyone? I fail to see what, if any relevance his past religious background (particularly that of his childhood) has on anything…
Nice way to welcome someone into the faith…
I still have first dibs…1 ;-)
I have been reading John Dean’s book “Conservatives without Conscience” and it has really helped me understand my own wingnut family. I recommend it if you have the time and inclination. I have always been baffled by their lack of empathy and complete lack of curiosity/skepticism in that they just believe whatever the powers that be say without any data to support the claim. They will always be that way, but at least I will understand their problem better.
Your explanation is far too logical to get any traction.
What was your conclusion as to why they are that way?
I still have first dibs…1 ;-)
this is gonna come down to dueling pistols at dawn, isn’t it? *g*
Is that your choice of weapons…? ;-)
I’d bet the original quote from the Jerusalem Post actually came from MEMRI. MEMRI claimed to have “translated” the first Oil for Food docs, too, and did all they could to bring down George Galloway and any Dem they could sniff out of the reports while covering for Condi Rice (she was at Chevron when it breached the Oil for Food agreement) and their pals. Think Claudia Rosett journalism. NY Sun, Clifford May, FDD, that’s MEMRI. And funded by the same people, too.
They’re all over those nasty muslim connections to Obama and still love Galloway so much they’ve put up a video of him addressing Hamas TV - on Obama.
You just know there’s much more to come.
My feeling about that is that I don’t believe those Xtians who practice ‘converting the heathens’ actually believe they are truly converted. I think they believe the heathens will always have first loyalty to their original religion or whatever.
Doesn’t speak well for them and their so-called conversions does it?
I think this is borne out by the treatment of peoples in the third world by the Catholic Church - wherein the ‘pagan’ rituals and celebrations are often incorporated into the Catholic calendar in those countries, and also by the fact that the priests in the churches there are never natives - they are always imported from somewhere in Europe.
Of course, our lovely Chimp-In-Chief and his cronies have done a good job convincing the
28%ers24%ers that being a Muslim = being a terrorist.New polling data today…
I so want to see video of him explaining the kilt. That by far has to be the best part of the press conference.
I had that “scales falling off the eyes” moment too when I read Dean’s book and People of the Lie by M. Scott Peck (if you can ignore the exorcism part).
Read anything about narcissism and it explains tons.
Is that your choice of weapons…? ;-)
well, that’s my choice *for you*. Me, I’m bringin’ heavy artillery… heh.
Either that, or Super-Soakers….
Video of the press conference!
LOL, me too. where’s the youtube? I want it now!
wow! thanks!!
Thank you jayt! That’s excellent news!
Super Soakers work… Maybe a little cayenne tossed in…! ;-)
Can you spell blow job?
I’m of the Balzar religion…what you gonna do bout it?
No way! Someone asked if he ever had sex with Larry Craig!
Super Soakers work… Maybe a little cayenne tossed in…! ;-)
done. Can we do it on your home-field?
Pardon the delay but had to pick up food and give Min her meds.
Oh!
Jane’s upstairs with our favorite fugitive!
If he had sex with Larry Craig he would be ratting on his best bud so I’m sure he said no…
Ha!! KO spends a segment talking about the politicizing of Candidates’ spouses, followed by a commercial touting Tweety’s topic for tomorrow’s Hardballs - The political makeover of Michelle Obama - “Watch Her!”
Ha!!
Hey, did we just witness the shortening down of Oddball? Hope so…
(((Min!)))
I laughed when KO said having to do daytime television was (something rough) to get to the Whitehouse.
I nevah evah watch daytime. I can honestly say I’ve never watched the View.
I think it is a character trait. My mom is a math teacher…actually taught me logic in high school!! My stepdad a retired AF pilot. (My biological father was an artist and once a psychologist said to me “oh, you clearly got your mental organization from him” which made me feel better…less like mutant spawn.) But I think they both are completely comfortable with having rules and marching orders laid down for them and just following them without thinking…and defending them, too. When I think about it, math is all about immutable rules and being in the AF is pretty much the same, huh?
The enlightening thing for me in Dean’s book is that there are decades of psychological testing of personalities to support that a certain percentage of people are authoritarian conservatives (which describes my parents to a T). And scarier, that there are a certain percentage of social dominants who have all the authoritarian conservative traits along with an amoral streak that makes them pretty dangerous.
I think I will just be happy for the contribution of my biodad and try to deal with the wingnuts knowing they can’t help themselves. it is pretty fruitless to argue with them and unfortunately because my mom has lung cancer I have to spend a lot more time with them recently.
Oh you should definitely consider posting that upstairs in the new thread..
Jane’s upstairs with fresh video of Sinclair.
I am so sorry about your mother. Peace.
thanks. going there tomorrow. Deep, deep breaths.
So sorry about your Mum.:) Peace and love.
Thanks!
Completely OT, but I just want this ‘war’ to stop. I read this blog back in 05 and over time you can see the change in this young man.
How can ANY politician/person continue to support any of this anymore? They send our troops to die for A LIE! and while they are waiting to die or go crazy, they trap them with Stop Loss and other ‘regulations’. This ‘War’ was lost the moment we invaded Iraq illegally. We are not fighting a ‘War for Freedom’, We are an Invading Occupation. Our troops brave stand for this Country should be respected and we MUST bring them Home. Now….
/sorry too many tears. too mad.. :(
Scroll down to this post..
FOB Garrison
http://funwithhandgrenades.blogspot.com/
This is farther down the page..Post to West Point..Cuts right to it..
Moar iss-yoos
He was head of the state of denial.
yeah. And W claims we are their by the Iraqis’ invitation donchaknow. I wish I could escape the feeling of reliving 35 yrs ago and my ex in Vietnam, but it is so familiar. Same ol’ same ol’. and the men still living with the aftereffects. Personally, after listening to two days of hearings about torture, I think the men (plus one woman I can think of) responsible for this one should be impeached, convicted, tried, convicted, and then all shipped off to the Hague.
but that’s just me.
Remember every time the right opens their pie hole it’s because they’re hiding the fact that they’re willingly taking it up the heeha from something else you should not know about.
Bush’s accomplishments in the other war - the drug war was just announced in a new report issued by the UN, that actually ’shocked’ this other wise pussy whipped institution.
After pumping another billion dollars of hard working American dollars, per year, to Columbia, not to mention what Columbia receives from other donors since 2001, the report says coca production is up by 26%, back to pre-Bush levels.
It’s also up in Peru and Equador.
Trade deals were already passed for Peru and Equador. Columbia trade deal won’t be passed at all - thanks to the momentary awakening of the Dems.
It won’t be long before we find out which US politicians are profiting off of those drug sales- someone must be. I bet that book is being written as I speak.
and what is sad is that the solution is so obvious. legalize everything and tax it. Takes out the crazy level of profit, neutralizes the violence. oh well.