Enough is enough.
The deal that's been cut by the Democratic leadership to give George Bush everything he wants and grant retroactive immunity to the telecoms is an outrageous betrayal of the public trust. With the passage of this bill, we'll never be able to discover the extent of the lawbreaking that the Bush Administration and the telecos engaged in as they spied on American citizens.
So we're joining together with some strange bedfellows indeed -- the ACLU, the Break the Matrix folks (who did the money bombs for the Ron Paul campaign), and others we are in discussions with to go after the people responsible for this travesty. The ACLU has a press release here.
As Glenn notes, first on the list is Steny Hoyer, who is now saying the Blue Dogs Made Him Do It. So we'll be hitting them too. As the graph above shows, we've raised over $160,000 $170,000 just to start. If you want to help, you can contribute through our Blue America PAC here.
As Glenn says:
Steny Hoyer and other House Democrats are about to block the court from ever ruling on those issues and, instead, hand the telecoms something that no ordinary citizen would ever receive: namely, complete immunity without their ever having to answer for their conduct in a court of law. It is corruption in its most extreme and transparent form.
The message of the campaign we are going to launch will be that ordinary Americans who run afoul even of the pettiest laws, such as alleged minor drug possession offenses and the like, have the full weight of the criminal justice system smash mercilessly down upon them. People and small businesses who are sued in court are required to defend themselves no matter the expense. Steny Hoyer and his comrades do nothing to oppose that.
If you'd like to sign on to be a Strange Bedfellow, you can do it here.
And Froomkin takes note in the Washington Post.
Is it just me, or is it getting hot in here?
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So, Jane! How’re you doin’.
Perfect name!!! Well done!!
Jane, Great post as usual. Did the dogs survive the game last night?
I love it that Froomkin picked this up.
Lots of Capitol Hill folks read Froomkin religiously . . . and this will bring smiles to some while others will be frowning.
Bwahahahahaha . . .
OT just because it is a time when everything is crazy: Sean Hannity has Elizabeth Hasselhoff scheduled for this evening. In part, at least, to talk about Michelle Obama. Why would it be good to have her talk about anything.
Presumably because Elizabeth is one of the hosts of The View and Michelle Obama was a guest host today on that show.
Steny & the Dem leadership are courting telcom $$$ for the DNC - election season is here and favors are flying.
Oh, and because Elizabeth is considered the “Republican voice” on The View
It is absolutely time to let these asshats (yes, I said Asshats) know that just because they have a “D” after their name, and that they might have done a good deed or two along the way in their political career, they are not immune from being challenged ferociously for their political positions.
As we used to say, “One ah-shit wipes out 1000 attaboys”, and this Telecom Immunity is a definite “ah-shit”. If Hoyer and Pelosi think they are going to get a free pass by bringing this up, securing the votes to pass it and then make a symbolic vote against it they have it wrong. That shit can’t play, it can’t be allowed to play.
Hoyer et al need to be showcased in every media on the planet for what they are, back-stabbing bought-and-paid-for property of the telecoms.
This is not a game anymore, this is our country…
and horrors!
did this !
I would be happy to contribute $$$ to this important cause if either (or both) of two easy conditions is met
1. Set up a paypal button
2. Improve the SSL interface security of the donation page–
I never put in my CC number unless the bar turns yellow to show encryption is on.
Anyway, Paypal is much easier.
DD
That’s the name of this particular FISA effort, but not the final name of the PAC we’re forming. We’re gonna have a contest for that later on.
ok, back on topic - I am confused as to the machinations - I get that it is unclear why Steny is doing this, esp without running it by leadership - is the Speaker giving him enough to rope to hang himself
hey, I said I was confused
totally OT, but what happened at the HJC hearing. I got to listen to part of it (mostly Wilkerson) but did Feith show up?
Best way to spend the “Strange Bedfellows” money–offer David Gregory $50k to give a speech on FISA. Then offer Wolf Blitzer $50k to give a speech on FISA.
All of a sudden, they will get smart about FISA.
All the more reason not to want to hear what she has to say in her smiling, snarky, ignorant way ;))
but did Feith show up?
No. He “declined” to attend because he would have been “uncomfortable” sitting with one of the other panel members.
that’s a real reason?
Liebermanitis
Hoyer has collected $18,000 or so from Telecom PACs according to OpenSecrets so now we know what the price of the Republic is…
Wonderful…just wonderful.
Gee, Jane - I’d love to be a Strange Bedfellow - but I(sniff) don’t have a blog…you can’t sign up without a blog…
That’s a joke, right? Did Feith actually say that? Who would he have to sit with - what was the problem..did he smell or something? I haven’t heard that one since elementary school.
He better get used to having to sit next to people who make him uncomfortable because I don’t think they give you a choice of cellmates in prison.
It is getting hot in here.
that’s a real reason?
No, but that was the reason that he gave. From Feith’s perspective - Why Not? Hell, who on the D side is gonna stand up to
himanyone?Steny Hoyer, a modern day Judas, clutching his bag of silver from the telecom industry.
Go back two threads for some info in the comments…no Feith.
Who would he have to sit with - what was the problem.
Certainly it wasn’t lap-dog Rivkin - I’m thinking it could have either been Levin, who was fired by ’somebody’, or Wilkerson, who as usual, had all guns blazing…
thanks! I will.
Yeah, and did anyone take into account how uncomfortable it must be for the congress men and women who had to be in the same room, indeed on the same panel, with Darrell Issa?
firedoglake is your blog!
Jane, I’ve been a pest all afternoon, trying to find out if I can mail a check to Blue America PAC and earmark it for this FISA fight. I found this mailing address at the FEC through OpenSecrets Dot Org:
Committee ID: C00427617
BLUE AMERICA PAC
PO Box 27201
Los Angeles, CA 90027
Treasurer Name: Klein, Howard
Would Howie be annoyed if I mailed a check to that address, earmarked for the FISA fight?
did anyone take into account how uncomfortable it must be for the congress men and women who had to be in the same room, indeed on the same panel, with Darrell Issa?
Iss-hole? Hey, they why they get the big bucks, big pensions, and sweet health-care packages. Sometimes ya do have to suffer a little…
Issa planted himself firmly in the “no waterboarding” camp, and can now proclaim himself to be anti-torture.
Of course, he didn’t speak about *any* of the other coercive techniques.
I’m thread-hogging - sorry - out for a while….
Totally OT
Wolfie — even in his death, Tim Russert was able to bring together the two presidential candidates for that hour and a half….
my gawd…has the thoughtless self-absorbed Mary Joe “little people” Matalin crassness mindset run amok in the cocktail wienie cult?
Over at dKos they’re saying that Hoyer’s now claiming that lots of House members are asking for the Senate bill to be brought forward.
The questions being asked at dKos are, who is doing the asking, how many, and why the Senate bill? Implying that it’s all Jay and Steny, and probably mostly Steny.
Side note: Tim Rutten has an op-ed in the LA Times today, arguing that Bush and Cheney shouldn’t be charged with war crimes after leaving office, because the victors don’t punish the losers in this country. It really doesn’t make much sense (they aren’t losing an election, they’re being term-limited out); I wrote, and a lot of others did too, that they ought to be charged. (Big problem with using the Times’s feedback box: limit 650 characters. Call it 100 words, two short paragraphs.)
DrDave, this is one of my favorite axes to grind. I always complain about ActBlue & Barack & DFA & MoveOn not taking PayPal when John Edwards accepted PayPal for his presidential campaign. But I have gotten nowhere with my whining, so I’m just going to mail a check to Blue America PAC at this address:
BLUE AMERICA PAC
PO Box 27201
Los Angeles, CA 90027
Treasurer Name: Klein, Howard
I faxed all three of my Congresscritters today:
I intend to stay on their cases, too. They are all by now quite familiar with my exasperating ass.
Keep at it, I’ve called Obama’s office, asking him to make a statement about this before it goes to the floor.
bmaz also suggests calling Durbin’s office. It’s be great if Dodd & Feingold had a chat with Obama & Durbin …
Go Bedheads!
No one would have predicted the demand for oil from China and….
a quote from McCain surrogate to Sit!Wolfie.
The ultimate strange bedfellows? McCain and Bush Energy Embrace, the screentext calls it. Oh, go ahead, guys, call it a hug….
Sex, sex, sex — morning, noon and night. That’s all you Dirty Fuckin’ Hippies (TM) ever think about.
I love it.
I sent faxes to 30 Senators yesterday enclosing the KagroX posting on Kos about the fake court review fabricated in Steny’s “deal,” then sent faxes to 35 Senators today enclosing the EFF list of statutes & constitutional amendments violated by the telecoms. Mostly targeted the Blue Dogs and GOP Senators, but I always include Dodd & Feingold so they know we are out here blasting away.
I have neglected the House, because I can’t find a quick way to upload House members’ names and faxes. I need a “comma delimited” file to “import” into my Apple Addressbook. Anyone got one?
“Sex”?
I think I heard about that somewhere.
Excellent letter, cribbed yours to Pelosi, Boxer, and Feinstein.
Thank you!
I am a manager of internet operations, I’ve been banging html for 13 years, and I can assure you the ActBlue contribution architecture is completely secure with SSL encryption. Using Mozilla I clearly see the encryption lock symbol in the bottom right corner, I see it in the code and I see it the https server. It’s totally clean and safe.
I’m conflicted about this, I give away a fair amount for my perspective, so much so that’s its become an internal issue, even though I’ve nailed all my duty I feel guilty about giving so much.
Now I’m being asked to give against my own people, for an outrage of betrayal that never, ever should have happened. I can’t do it, not today, enough is enough.
What a nightmare. Jesus somebody make the nightmare stop.
Thanks,
Appropriate and pay it forward at will.
I’m in bed, too, with The Strange Fellows.
What’s the plan, here? Will ads need to run this week? Or are we just showing our muscular fundraising in hopes of getting them to see it, and back away from the “compromise?”
Or is it a secret? (That’s okay too!)
On a BA chat last year, Howie had this to say about PayPal:
There hasn’t been a way for us to accept PayPal donations . . . it is so seemless and smooth and relativey bureaucracy-free (for me) if people donate through our ActBlue page. We accept checks for Blue America at P.O. Box 27201, Los Angeles, CA 90027, but anything over $200 triggers FEC paperwork– unless it goes through ActBlue. They make everything SO easy.
I’m not speaking out of any inside information, but I’d guess that the FEC regulations for organizations like BlueAmerica (and ActBlue) that do “pass through” donations to multiple candidates are quite a hassle, and trying to blend PayPal into that would be a nightmare.
Lots of individual candidates have PayPal buttons on their own pages, but a campaign like that is a much different kind of legal organization. From the FECs point of view, you can’t compare a single candidate’s fundraising setup with an organization like Blue America.
love it!
jane, i just used the embed at thestrangebedfellows.com and found that the font really doesn’t work for a single standard sized sidebar (about 200pt?). it’s too small to read. thought you might want to pass the word on that we need an alternative embed (the one they have is designed for a width of 400pt).
you can see what i mean here:
http://www.netrootsmass.net/Co.....index.html
Loosehead on war crimes in the new post.
Thanks Jane.
digg
Nope, we’re doubling down on Carney, getting ready to go against Steny and others. I’ll be light posting today because we’re moving quickly.
Heh, heh. Good one AF - and always a treat to see ya. ;~)
IMHO, telecoms have leverage with everyone. They’re the modern-day equivalent of 19th century railroads. Everyone travels on their hardware. They can twist arms with their suppliers, throughout US industry, technology, health care, and financials/insurance.
Steny may be cashing out old favors that he still owed with this farce he’s running.
On the other hand he may just be dumb enough to sell out the Constitution for $18K. I can’t rule that out.
thanks, Peterr, I was hoping Howie would take checks by mail. I’m going to send a big one, so I will include my own “FEC info.” (name, address, employer, occupation, certification of own funds, certification of not corporate or union funds, certification of not using someone else’s money to write check–redundant version of “own funds”)
Great work Jane. I called the local office and national office for Rep Capps they seemed warm to that idea of no. All ther prvious opponents need a tie down on this.
Steney’s staff, on the other hand, seemed nervous when I read the statement from your post on FISA that he has a wide coalition with buck in oppostion. This could take down the Blue Dogs in their next election cycle and they need to hear it over and over.
Plus the DNC should get calls not to sell us out for corporate bribes.
1 (800) 828 - 0498
1 (800) 459 - 1887
1 (800) 614 - 2803
1 (866) 340 - 9281
1 (866) 338 - 1015
1 (877) 851 - 6437
oh much more than that Jo.
he got $19,500 from Comcast alone, and $73,500 from the communications PACs.
So basically, your Fourth Amendment rights are worth $93,300 to Stainy Whore.
I woulda held out for more personally, but it’s hard out there for Stainy Whore.
Much appreciated.
I called my resident Blue Dog (and to be fair a very good guy who usually votes the right way) Patrick Murphy.
I explained that, although I know he votes the right way, Stainy Whore is blaming the whole FISA fiasco on Pat and the rest of the Blue Dogs. “I think Pat should publicly distance himself from this,” I said, “because I wouldn’t want to see ads run against him. However, since the Majority Leader says it’s the Blue Dogs forcing his hand, he may get caught up in the ad campaign. Wouldn’t that be sad if Pat Murphy lost his job because Stainy Whore managed to heap the blame on HIM?”
Hey Fractal, left you a message at the bottom of Blue Am but looks like Peterr has gotten you the address. Appreciate your help, thank you!
Jane, I wrote about this last night at Left in Alabama and I think it’s great! My question, LiA is not my blog, though I do contribute to it from time to time. Should I put that in the “blog name” field? Or should I leave that up to the owner of the blog?
your’re welcome (or am I supposed to UR welcome?)
170 grand and counting . . . .
just awesome. sorry my bit won’t get counted until my check gets to LA, but I hope a bunch of folks mail checks. This is going to be such a gas, watching these clowns squirm when we go up on the air! (gas? showing my age)
Yeah, I was just counting his graft from this years election cycle. I did not count Comcast, but your’re right.
The old George Bernard Shaw joke still holds true: “We’ve established what you are madam, now we’re just establishing the price”
America for sale to the highest bidder. Justice for sale cheap.
That is smooth politics. Great work make the Blue dogs stand against telecom immunity effort by Hoyer and Bonds. Negative add campaigns can hurt.
Fienstein’s office says she is out of this loop but keep calling for her to step to the plate.
Last year I asked my local teledom worker if they were spying on us he said of course not. Yhen I explained the story to him. We need to educate everyone connected to this outrage. And when you call remind them that call is being recorded in a database.
yeah, it’s all about wedges. “Hey, I don’t think you’re a bad guy, but Stainy here says you’re the culprit. Prove him wrong, because those ads are gonna hit everyone involved.”
It’d be great to see a whole bunch of Blue Dogs disavow this. And Stainy’s not too good at pulling off these tricks: let’s not forget how the GOP made Stainy and Queen Nancy look like the idiots they are a few months back.
$18,000 pieces of silver to betray his country eh?
I feel like calling him and asking how much he charges to do what’s right.
Who knows maybe he’s really cheap.
I will be down with this.
Thanks Fractal–
I’ll send a check.
But couldn’t the PAC raise more money by using simple, secure internet tools?
Hi Jane and pups.
This is incredible. I have almost no time right now, so can’t check upthread to see if anyone else has commented on this, but I thought you guys might be interested that EFF is also on the warpath over this new Steny deal nonsense.
Since EFF is sending out e-mail announcements that they are fighting it, I was surprised NOT to see them listed at strangebedfellows dot com.
I fired an e-mail right back to them telling them about the site and effort by you folks.
I carry no weight in the electronic world. Would someone at the Lake right now be willing to contact the right people at EFF and make sure they’re on board? It looked, from their report, as if they’re working independently already. Thanks much. Good luck to us all. gr-r-r-r. Steny’s way over-ripe for being kicked out of the coalition of goodguys. blergh
http://www.eff.org/action/no-false-compromises
I can’t believe it. I actually contributed $25. Why?
It’s THAT IMPORTANT that we not let the big guys get away with this. Lord, I hope they don’t…
Thanks for the mailing info. Check in the mail to Howie.
I’d also suggest that folks contact Chris VanHollen, chair of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and Chuck Schumer, his counterpart in the Senate. Each should be impressed by the amount of cash we’ve been able to raise on such short notice, and that should lead them to listen to and support our POV on FISA.
Don’t have the #’s, but I’m sure someone will link ‘em [please?]
Glenn, Jane, Christy, ACLU and crew,
Thank you to all who are coming together to fight this most important fight since the founding of our country.
We all need to get our friends to support. We all need to keep those calls/faxes to Reps and Obama’s office going until they cannot keep up with the information flow. As well as our donations too.
Many, many thanks to all for fighting this important fight for rights.
BTW, Hoyer is full of hooey when it comes to protecting citizen’s rights.
Here are the fax numbers of Congress critters for people to send their complaints about this to:
Durbin fax (202) 228-0400
Conyers fax (202) 225-0072
Wexler fax 202 225-5974
Feinstein fax - Fax: (202) 228-3954
boxer - (202) 224-0454 fax
reid Fax: 202-224-7327
Pelosi Fax # (202) 225-8259 8259
Davis Fax: (202) 225-2948
hagel Fax: (202) 224-5213
snowe Fax: (202) 224-1946
dodd | Fax: (202) 224-1083
feingold Fax (202) 224-2725
obama (202) 228-4260 fax
Clinton Fax: (202) 228-0282
Edwards Fax: (919) 967-3644
Rockefeller 202 224-7665
Kerry 202 224-8525 chmn.subcommittee ss,pensions,family policy
Conrad 202-224-7776 chmn. subcommittee taxation,oversight,ltg
Baucus 202 224-0515 chmn. Senate Finance Cmte. Chmn.
Dorgan 202 224-1193
Senator Cantwell 202-228-0514
Sanders 2022280776
And remember this quote? “Nancy Pelosi, quivering at the thought of becoming the nation’s first female Speaker of the House, said on Nov 9, 2006, “This new Democratic majority has heard the voices of the American people.” She added, while apparently attempting to stifle a burst of wild, maniacal laughter, “Americans placed their trust in Democrats. We will honor that trust. We will not disappoint.”
And here is what I faxed this past Sunday; feel free to use any of it.
“I am again writing regards the FISA legislation. I find it frustrating in the extreme to have to keep writing about this issue.
I have read where Rep. Hoyer and Senator Bond have ‘hammered out a deal’ regarding FISA legislation that would grant immunity to the telecommunication companies AND remove the requirement for judicial review in the future when the executive branch wants to wiretap an American citizen being contacted from overseas.(What was written was that the FISA court would ‘review the process’ by which such Executive branch decisions are made; incredible to me that ANYONE in a Congress sworn to uphold the Constitution would even consider such a thing, especially in view of the abuses by the current Executive branch.)
If the only role for the court – be it District or a FISA court – is to determine whether the companies received a request from the Administration, and not to determine whether those requests were legal, it’s a sham review.
And since Rep. Hoyer spoke on the House floor on March 15, 2008 saying “how the FISA law is in place, protects the American public, and how the Bush Administration chose to break the law.” why is he now ‘making deals’ which subvert his House statements? What has changed?
I have also read where Rep.Silvestere ‘wants to move this off the table’.
I ask you the following question (besides -again- indicating as a constituent of Representative Susan Davis- my opposition to immunity and whose opinion reflects a majority in Representative Davis’ district): “how can lack of prosecution of illegal activities be “on” the table at one place (FISA), and prosecution of illegal activities can be “off” the table at another place.(impeachment)?”
This -from The American Conservative Magazine- is the ‘terrorist’ that worries me: “The holders of great wealth, especially if they are organized into a political lobby of similar holders of great wealth, can buy not only more goods, more capital, and more people. They can also buy (through the vehicle of campaign contributions) more important people: politicians and other public officials and therefore public policies.”
Bruce Sims
San Diego, CA 92116
CC: Representative Susan Davis
Speaker Pelosi
Representative Conyers
Senator Boxer
Senator Feinstein
Senator Reid
Senator Obama
Much appreciated