…The plane is owned by King Aviation LLC, a subsidiary of her family’s beer distributorship, Hensley & Co., where Mrs. McCain is chairman.
She used the jet on several trips last year that included campaign-related activity but never got campaign reimbursement, according to flight-tracking records and campaign-finance reports verified by the McCain campaign….
If the campaign had paid for Mrs. McCain’s trip to New York and three others that appear to have included some campaign work, it would likely have cost a total of about $15,000, the equivalent of first-class fare for the trips combined.
Jan Baran, a Republican campaign lawyer, said the campaign should have paid. "I don’t know why they want to fight it," he said. "The chutzpah is not that they’re not paying for this trip, it’s that they’re using a corporate airplane at a highly discounted rate."…
Nice when your Sugar Momma is willing to pick up the tab for you, isn’t it? The rules apparently only apply if we aren’t talking about Republicans. Even those Republicans who like to prance around and pretend to be all mavericky and shit. Wonder if McCain’s lobbying cronies for the oil industry have gotten him a fuel discount for the Sugar Momma Express, too? Just asking…
(YouTube on McCain’s oil industry lobbying crony ties via BraveNewFilms.)
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Aloha, Christy!
Hi Christy. Gotta like this headline:
Leave Cindy McCain ALONE!!!!!!
But Christy, haven’t you heard? Talking about how McSame is getting free rides on the Sugar Mama Express is attacking the Sugar Mama in the McSame Newspeak…
heh!
That youtube needs to be made, pronto.
epu’d myself, but this is too important not to get seen. so i’m bringing it up from downstairs.
OT – this is not good. via sysprog in the comments at glenn greenwald’s:
a reminder…. barrow’s primary challenger is regina thomas. here’s what howie had to say when she visited fdl:
can someone please tell me i have this wrong?
Yes, Howard Dean was being mean by bringing that up. Apparently that is tantamount to discussing Cindy Lou’s problem with her stolen “Mother’s Little Helpers”, or her tax returns…
Jeebus, is there nothing that they won’t lie about? Simple answer to simple question: NO.
Maybe we should start calling her Fructose Momma…
I’m sure there’s a pithy why and wherefore in that suggestion but it’s been a long, frazzly day and I can’t come up with one….
Oh noooooo.
heh, heh… Christy said shit
and shit
;~P
more from glenn’s post earlier today on the fisa fight:
my bold.
this truly sucks – big time.
We gots us a Senator like that rightchere, eh?
No one here ever called Obama a liberal. I am not justifying it. Neither am I surprised.
Perhaps Senator Obama needs to hear from us directly, and some dumbo on his staff needs an adjustment of sorts.
I hope it’s a mistake on some staffperson’s part, I really do.
;(
This is exactly the wrong “Change” one we can’t believe in. Looks like politics as usual to me.
Please don’t tell me it’s fool me once… I don’t need that again, really.
Kagro-X over at the tolerable Orange [not the mind-bending View Orange /s] it on topic: Cindy McCain and Jack Abramoff have the same “skybox” problems.
marymccurnin made me say it….
well, i think he needs to hear from us for sure.
And a couple of congresscritters.. Maybe all of them.
so is this an incumbency this? A FISA thing?
obama has been telegraphing that from the begining, imo. if there is going to be a change, i think it’s going to be up to us to fight for it.
I’m guessin’ it’s an electoral collage thang….
Ah.
you know? i do believe obama’s website has diaries.
I think it’s time for a test– he wastes no time in responding and neither should we.
I am willing to fight for the change we must have.
i don’t see how. could you explain please?
Selise…I have the same undertoad.
Where’s the YouTube?!
1) donate to regina’s campaign
2) contact obama’s campaign
?
I knew there was a reason to support Edwards. I just knew it.
The problem for Obama is that the progressive activist netroots are not going to sit still for this for long. Glenzilla has already started calling out the Blue Dogs, if Obama prefers to lie down with those Dogs do we need to get their fleas too?
Is this now a case of buyers remorse all over again? Compassionate Conservatism repacked with a different party affiliation? I hope to hell not.
lather, rinse, repeat
Yes, it does.
Apologies for the OFF TOPIC Christy.
Thanks for the links selise. I just called Obama’s campaign. (866) 675-2008. Press 6 to get past all the garbage. I talked to Liz who was extremely helpful, but as would be expected, didn’t know anything. I gave her my name, because I sent Obama money. I told her I was very concerned, because the Atlanta Journal Constitution was reporting that Obama had cut an ad for Barrow. I told Liz I thought Regina Thomas was a much better candidate and that I had sent her money too. I should have said it would be better if Obama just stayed out of the primary fight.
and
Write to papers and ask for an explanation…
I’ll do what I can from here, and any GA pups out there might want to do the same.
(then I am going to jump up and down and holler!)
Just sent e-mail to Obama campaign. Said that he should not be supporting a Blue Dog because the Blue Dogs will never vote for progressive legislation and that Obama was harming what we are trying to do.
With Bob Barr in the mix, Georgia becomes less of a lock for McCain. A known incumbent Democratic Congressman would, on paper, be a better vote-getter for the up-ticket Democratic candidate in a red state like Georgia….
or not….
Tried to do the same, but got a recording and no messages being “taken at this time”– could it be the poor volunteer is being inundated?
Hope so.
Will keep trying.
WHat email addy do you have, por favor?
Well done.
The primary between Barrow and Thomas is on July 15.
It’s eminently reasonable to ask Obama to stay out until after the primary.
“The word undertoad comes from the phrase Under Toad which was coined by John Irving in his book The World According to Garp. In the book, the youngest child, Walt, is constantly being warned to “watch out for the undertow” while playing in the surf, but he mishears the word as Under Toad:
Garp…realized that all these years Walt had
been dreading a giant toad, lurking offshore,
waiting to suck him under and drag him out to
sea. The terrible Under Toad.”
Please, tell me this is not the case…
thanks for the number, i tried calling but got voice mail. will try again… perhaps in the morning if i only get voice mail tonight.
this is not change i can believe in.
barackobama.com
This Sux…!
Utter Bull excrement…!
I have a list in my head and Steny is second only to HoJo – I can’t stand him and he has such a snotty expression on this face all the time. blegh
Bend over…now….pick up the soap…
Republican Convention?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IHC9bxQkLCQ
I assume you noticed this post by Jane from earlier today…
It is.
I know it’s difficult to get any Democrat elected in that area, but hell’s bells just stay the heck out of it Senator.
I’m not comfortable.
Sorry, I was late to the party…! I just signed up as a Strange Bedfellow, tho…! ;-)
and because misery loves company, i’ll share what i just found in my rss feed…
i think we have two jobs this presidential cycle. to defeat mcsame and to make obama live up to his “change” rhetoric.
I hate it when you find out you are free…and then you start walking…and then you find that there is this fence that the guy put up that just told you to walk towards the fence. I hate it when that happens.
Tried to call just now; no volunteer operators available, messages can’t be recorded now. I will call tomorrow, as a contributor to Obama’s campaign, and voice my displeasure as well. This isn’t a primary fight Barack should get involved in, as we progressives have a swell candidate in Regina Thomas.
Barrow is the worst of the Blue Dogs. Clearly he’s feeling the heat.
I won’t be sending any more (tiny amounts!) of money to Obama for America until this is resolved. Thanks for the phone number, Boo.
You first…! 8-P
hoyer is a liar.
Bwahahahaha…not on your life baby…
We do and we will. The powers-that-be must be seeing what we are able to do and ears perk up. I got as e-mail from ACTBLUE today which said that ACTBLUE has raised $51 Million – that has to get some attention.
Of course he’s a liar…spit.
Not THEM !
I am praying & on my knees now, soon I’ll need smelling salts.
OK– perhaps he’s just going through the motions until he brings out the new folks (he is smart, I hear), though the quote is making me vomit.
Something is amiss….amiss, amiss, amiss…
Consider options.
yeah. and after reading some of the PHR report, i have to say this has been hard day.
The old DLC folks are going to be looking for work.. any work.
M Albright on team Obama, really bothers me.
I don’t care who he talks with – I care what he does. I would like for him to get all sides.
Good Evening.
I still love the Sugar Momma express. If only the New York Times would pick it up…
I remain a skeptic…stand back and observe….
House leaders struck a bipartisan deal on Wednesday night on a major spending measure that would provide money for the war in Iraq through the end of the Bush administration, establish a significant new education benefit for veterans, and meet Democratic demands for added unemployment benefits…”I think we have an agreement,” said Representative Steny H. Hoyer of Maryland, the majority leader, who worked out the final deal in talks with Representative John A. Boehner of Ohio, the Republican leader, as well as senior members of both parties from the Appropriations and Ways and Means Committees.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06…..ref=slogin
sure. and why not ask cheney for his advice while obama is at it.
personally, i’d prefer he doesn’t look to mass murderers for advice.
I am, by nature, suspicious.
Helllllloooooo…
Selise, you don’t need to flame me that way. You know very well that’s not what I meant.
I cut out for a while…what are you skeptical of (in particular!) and what should we observe?
my apologies to you twain. i should not have flamed you.
although i didn’t know what you meant, i know you – and i should have trusted your good intentions.
again, my sincere apologies.
It is like a play, or a book,…there’s all these people who will profit from legislation and/or deals….and/or insider information…making up crappola in a backroom with wienies and cocktails….kiss, kiss….no…3 kisses..kiss, kiss, kiss…okay….French style….Italian style…whatever….
Really…that is the reality.
We have cocktail party politics and diplomacy….
He/she who eats, drinks/fucks the most discreetly wins…the war on people who interfere with the profits…
We are all on edge from this horrible week of torture and FISA news, and now with this Barrow betrayal by Obama!
Let’s all be kind to one another, at least hereabouts….
I don’t care who he talks to either; but I am disturbed.
If he doesn’t already know these folks and their policies, I am disturbed.
If he’s doing it because he’s already facing so much slime from so many corners, I guess I have to bear it.
I know I was disturbed by his speech to A*PAC and his interview on CBN (I silently and foolishly hoped it was the Canadian network he was talking to– LOL). I just hate that, in this country, one has to pay homage to so many that are really not keeping our Constitution, our history, our reputation, and the future of our planet and her inhabitants foremost.
Accountability and ingenuity has to start somewhere, but then I have been labeled naive before.
Team of Rivals. Obama has said he’s studied Abraham Lincoln’s style of governance.
well said. and i obviously needed to read it. thanks teddy.
I am “vaguely” worried about Obama’s rise to power. The MSM’s designation of him as a “rock star”….sounded a bit like “marketing” to me…early on….then his sort of vague support for global markets….things like that….
I don’t know. I’ve been supportive of him, and I hope that he is just playin’ the game to win against the Neocons….
I have hope, but at the same time….I am skeptical and realistic.
I hope he’s the real deal.
I want Obama to do the right thing always. I also think that it is possible that the people from the Clinton group just might be able to tell him about the mistakes they made and how to do it differently. They have nothing to lose by admitting their mistakes and they certainly made some.
but twain, i haven’t seen any sign that they’ve admitted their mistakes. have i missed it?
Not in public they haven’t – might be a little different behind closed doors or one on one. I don’t believe for a minute that those from the Clinton years are like the ones we have now. I don’t think they are evil or greedy or want world domination. They were wrong about lots of things but so are we all.
Dave Chappell for President…heh…
Ain’t nobody admitted anything.
I owe you a coke!
(was away dialing again)
I think it is the real deal with Obama. I believe him when he says he loves America and wants to return to sanity. He probably has to do a lot of things and go lots of places he’d rather not, but such is the cost.
He wants all the perks of being president, I’m sure…but I don’t blame him for that, he’s earned it. Plus, the bonus. He’d only have to be half as good as he sounds (present post excluded*g*) in order to be miles and miles ahead of Bush.
A lot of policy advisors like this bunch aren’t really out in the public eye to make apologies and admit mistakes the way the actual politicians are. And while they may not have written a mea culpa book like Scotty McClellan, they may be perfectly willing to share their knowledge of what went right and wrong with someone in a policy meeting with him that they wouldn’t necessarily feel comfortable with out in the public eye. Albright, in her position as UN Ambassador, being a diplomat, I would not expect her to come out in public and say stuff like “I screwed up when I said X to prime minister Y”.
I’ll give him (Obama) the benefit of their advice. While Bill Clinton was not a saint or hero by any stretch, he did get some things right. Picking good people helped settle the Irish ‘troubles’ and when we went into Kosovo and Bosnia we did it with the help of NATO – and NATO countries in Europe are doing 90% of all the heavy lifting over there now – as they should. And that was due at least in part to Clinton and/or his foreign policy team.
in order to be miles and miles ahead of Bush…
Oh man, the jokes just write themselves…. heh.
Knowledge is power and Obama needs a lot – I want to see him smash McC in the debates and he has to know about the past in order to meet the future.
If Obama really cares about stopping the
corporate soverigntyFISA hack, one word:filibuster.
Of course, a corporate tool dressed as a Senator wouldn’t do that.
Absolutely, and that does not include getting involved with supporting Blue Dogs who will probably cut his legs out from under him on day 101 of his new adminstration.
The Blue Dogs have their own agenda, and it does not include what is best for America, but always includes what’s best for them personally.
then we disagree about clinton’s foreign policy team. i do think most of them have done terribly evil things and i don’t regret calling them murderers.
not as bad as cheney is, imo, like saying not as bad as hussein.
And that’s what I said in my e-mail to him a little while ago. I always e-mail both the campaign and his Washington office.
I think it is a terrific contrast to McCaint for Barack Obama to hold these open meetings with his foreign policy team, and all the former military brass who support him. Openness, transparency, clean government — that’s what this looks like. It’s a great contrast to all of McCaint’s stinky lobbyists slinking on and off the Stray Cock Express to make their sleazy phone calls at $1000 an hour.
We may not like every one — or many! — of the advisers Obama listens to, but it’s very important that he’s seen as a Very Serious Person within the Beltway, or he will be belittled and derided into defeat by those who are still in control of what passes for political discourse in the Village.
Right now, I trust him to make the right decisions based on what he hears. And he’s certainly heard from me about John Barrow, and I expect some action on his part SOON!
Barack Obama has been to the school of George Lakoff framing.
When he says to AIPAC, I will do anything, anything at all, to help ensure the survival of Israel , most people jump(ed) to the conclusion that he meant a military option.
Using Lakoff’s framing method though, what he said was I will do diplomacy, arm-twisting, foreign aid, negotiations, “appeasement”, any other options that I can think of besides the military one.
And the people at AIPAC are the masters at splitting hairs so they understood perfectly well what he was saying as well.
We all have to learn how to think differently than we have for a long time, because we now have someone running for POTUS who thinks differently IMHO. And that’s a very good thing.
when we bombed the serbs, we did it without a un resolution. it was a war crime as surely as attacking iraq and created the precedent for “preventive” war.
I can go with this…Barack Obama is the bravest man ever…an African American man running for President of the United States of America….anyone who says he is weak is a frikkin’ moronic idiot. This man puts himself in “harms way” every time he walks out in public to spread his message….22,000 people in Austin…80,000 in Oregon…
That…is something….magic.
That is what I hope for.
I’m also cognizant of the MSM’s manipulation of his “image” from the beginning…..rock star….the MSM, in particular, GE. MSMBC….supported that framing of his image….why???? Why did GE participate in developing his political image?
if it was a one off i’d be more inclined to share your optimism.
Gosh Kirk, don’t you know that he has to campaign. He can’t be bothered with such picayune things like you know, actually working in the Senate and exhibiting leadership. That would be be, I don’t know… beneath him now?
During the primaries it was always one of my pet peeves that all but one of the sitting senators running for Preznit (Dodd) just could not be bothered to take a leadership role in the FISA stuff, despite all of them claiming such wunnerful slogans as “ready on Day 1″ and stuff…
The only thing they seem to be ready for on Day 1 is to enjoy being the winner and not much else. Or am I being a bit harsh here?
And realistically speaking – who is there for him to consult with on foreign policy? The Clinton people or the Bush people?
I also think he is listening to people with a range of views.
Jesus Christ for President – Anybody (everybody) else is just human. There are no saints in Washington, D.C., only degrees of sinners – sounds like Planet Earth to me.
The Senate bill has already passed – without immunity. Obama cannot do anything about it at this point. It is up to the Dems in the House to decide if they want the Senate bill (which Hoyer derided as ‘bad’) or the so-called good House version that does include immunity.
So…unless Obama has suddenly changed from being a Senator to a Representative, he really cannot do anything about it at this point. And the House doesn’t have filibusters.
I heard that, and had to keep kicking myself to listen…carefully.
But what did the rest of ‘Murka hear?
Bingo…Hello!!! Selise!
iirc, obama wouldn’t even support feingold’s censure resolution. it didn’t start with the campaign.
Shoot me now.
May I ask if your simply requested he stay out of primary races or not support Barrow evah?
so lets call ‘em like we see them. because no saints is not the same thing as what we have going on in deecee right now.
UMMM? I don’t think so. Got something to share?
He took time off from the campaign, and from his family, to attend the Russertapalooza today. That means he should have time to stand up for American values in the USSenate.
And to take his supporter Jello Jay aside and ask What. The. Fuck.
I asked that he stay out of the primary and support the winner. I’ll post my emai in the next thread.
That’s entirely reasonable.
g’evening pups
Hi, Suz
Is it hot at your place?
RussertPalooza indeed. Like Generalissmo Francisco Franco, Tim Russert is still dead and they are still singing his praises as “phenomenal journalist” on MSNBC.
I guess they never heard about his “it’s all off the record unless I am forced to make it on the record, which will never, ever happen”…journalism. Guess that Grand Jury testimony never made it to the newsroom over there. Now that’s phenomenal journalism…
I think we have to be a bit careful here. If we spend all our time looking for negative stuff – we certainly will find it. And then we can spend the rest of our time tearing down each person who has that negative thing. The end result is that we will wind up with no one left.
I prefer to acknowledge the less than perfect stuff, find and shine a light on the positive things, and then work really hard to help improve the not so good stuff.
In this case, we have Obama – no saint, but he does have good qualities. The alternative is McSlime. I’m sure he does as well (although I’d be hard p[ut to name any right at the moment!).
I prefer to get Obama elected regardless of his less than perfect personage because the alternative is just too horrible to contemplate.
Yep. Silly me.
For an ambitious pol, the FISA vote
– and throwing Regina Thomas under the bus
– and giving his top econ adviser post to a cultist form the Chicago Econ School
– and claiming to oppose the Irak Occupation while never filibustering the funding
…are just the usual blow job for Power.
At this point I expect the ambitious pol Obama to make the FISA vote his Sister Souljah moment: the perfect vehicle (along with his economic and foreign policy team) to show Power that he’s their eager, willing tool.
Hey: if you’re gonna sell out to neo-liberal economic cults and the Imperial War Party, the Constitution only gets in the way.
forking hot 92 in the shade at the creek again this afternoon
Your’re absolutely right: he missed his profile in courage moment.
Sure made his profile in opportunisitic ambition moment.
It wasn’t preventive war. The Serbs were actively engaged in ethnic cleansing in Bosnia and Kosovo at the time. The intervention was supported by our Nato allies. There were very few casualties and we got out quickly. There’s no comparison between the Balkans action and the Iraq war.
I wonder how stupid Congress actually is to not understand that by not impeaching these bastards they have in essence sealed their own fates as a no-longer co-equal branch of government?
But they do get to keep their parking spaces at National Airport.
And get to be multi-million dollar lobbyists at some point after they leave Congress.
i believe in examining democrats with the same level of skepticism i bring to examining republicans. that doesn’t mean i think they are the same, it means i’m attempting to be intellectually honest.
and it is also the result of having been burned by democrats because i didn’t pay as much attention to their bad acts as i did to the republican’s.
and crowning Luke.
And just think – Christy’s post was about the Sugar Mama Express – I think we strayed a bit.
Bada Bing…
Not…they don’t “think”…they eat, drink, party…but they don’t “think…
are you only counting nato casualties?
Well, it’s all election-related. ;^)
legally, i think the comparison holds. according to the un charter which we have signed, we’re not allow – by international law – to attack another country unless it is in self defense or under a un mandate. having the support of our allies does not make it legal.
and if i have timeline correct, the worst of the killings and ethnic cleansing happened after we attack – as was predicted.
Obama was there for Dodd on the cloture vote. He was also present for the vote on the Amendment that stripped telecom immunity from the bill. He missed the final vote – but the vote was 68 in favor of the final bill and he really didn’t need to be there – he was there for the two really important votes and voted correctly. Unlike some others.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/2/12/224018/154
My understanding is that it was a bit more of a policing mission, and the rules of engagement were fairly restrictive. Mose casualties were the result of ongoing ethnic cleansing between Serbs and Moslems.
late nite unclaimed zed upstairs
did read this one too?
Good news.
I’m certain we can expect him to take center stage in opposing the FISA scam – becuse he cares so much about opposing corporate power.
I look forward to his stirring oratory on the topic tomorrow.
If he could make time for Russertpalooza, he can make time for the Constitution.
Unless, of course, opposing corporate Power would be bad for his ambition.
So, Kirk, are you voting for Barr or Nader? Just kidding, of course, but are you angry tonight?
if the ethnic cleansing was a result of our attack then we are responsible for those deaths too – especially if it was predicted to happen if we attacked and we did it anyway.
78 days of bombing civilian – not military – targets is not a policing mission.
No. We killed between .5 and 1.5 million civilians in Iraq. I don’t know the number for Serbia but I know it is minute by comparison. And we saved may lives in Kosovo.
i didn’t say the numbers were the same. their not.
but the law is.
and are you really sure we saved any lives in kosovo? i mean with evidence that is independent of clinton apologists.
selise: if the ethnic cleansing was a result of our attack then we are responsible for those deaths too – especially if it was predicted to happen if we attacked and we did it anyway.
No. The Serbs threatened to step up their attacks if we intervened but they were already pursuing ethnic cleansing before we attacked and there was no reason to believe they were planning to stop.
I suppose your reaction to the ethnic cleansing was “let’s not get involved– it doesn’t concern us.”
False choice – akin to suggesting those who criticize US policy in Irak are somehow disloyal. The imputation that my objection to Obama’s repeated, deliberate support for corporate Power are simply the result of emotional state is equally false.
I said I was just kidding. There’s plenty to criticize but I do think it’s not a good thing to give the Repubs talking points. Whatever faults Obama may have he is not McC.
Yes I’m sure. There were many news reports including video footage of the Serbs’ attacks in Kosovo. The idea that we should have turned away and ignored the killing is revolting.
The leader of Serbia – Slobodan Milosevic – was put on trial in the Hague for war crimes. He died in prison there, but all indications are that he would have been convicted.
Selise, I would be interested to know what the resolution to any ‘conflict’ between treaty obligations to a group like NATO and mandates of the UN would be.
You have said/implied that NATO is not an authority and that only the UN is, so how are the various treaty groups (of which NATO is only one of many that the US belongs to) able to carry out policies and enforcement of their rules, duties and obligations?
that is bullshit.
there are other alternatives besides bombing civilians from 30,000 feet and doing nothing.
there were many news reports about iraq’s WMDs too.
once again, it is bullshit that i have ever advocated turning away or ignored the killing. you owe me an apology.
Yep.
Obama’s pick for chief economic adviser: Jason Furman. Director of the Hamilton Project: Same Old Corporatist Whine In New Vessels.
Just like the corporate attorney who chose to represent Chiquita’s providing AK-47′a nd money for right wing death squads – the pal Obama selected to vet his veep picks.
Just like the Village War Party insiders Obama chose for his foreign policy team.
Just like the incumbent Blue Dog Obama supports.
Same old corporatist values in a great suit with a dazzling smile.
i agree. just as i think saddam hussein would have been found guilty of war crimes.
… i fail to see the relevance.
exactly.
that doesn’t mean i don’t want mcsame to loose – i do.
but i want us to be as clear eyed as possible about what is going down. how else are we to fight it?
He’s not Stalin, Hitler, or Satan either – but the the fact he’s not doesn’t precude criticism of his values, policies, and choices.
He’s another ambitious pol seeking power. Irrespective of his party affiliation, he’s basically a very well-financed job applicant. Though the non-Rethug major party canddiate will have my vote, I’m not their acolyte or fanclub: I’m their employer.
wow.
How much have ethnic cleansing have we done, contributed to, stood by, and bombed for.
a sampling:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_Cleansing
No I don’t. I’m sure you remember that Nato tried very hard to convince the Serbs to stop the killing and they only threatened to increase it if we intervened. The killing only stopped after our intervention. You know very well if we had not done anything the killing would have continued. They had already slaughtered thousands in Bosnia and Kosovo before we became involved. To compare this to the preemptive war in Iraq is an outrage.
I’m sorry – I was just trying to be funny and obviously did not succeed. People are really touchy tonight and I should have just kept my keyboard shut.
these are the statements that you made that i demand an apology for:
you attributed to me and accused me of supporting doing nothing – that is untrue and very, very wrong.
ok, i’m out of here. reminds me too much of republicans defending their president’s lies and killing.
{{{{{selise}}}}}
Twain, no apology needed on my end.
On a totally different topic – I hope the heat wave in NoCal is not parching you all as much as it is baking SF.
77 in my house right now. Warm, indeed.
here is SF the kitties didn’t want to go out on the deck today – they waited til sunset. not our usual june “brrr” weather
tomorrow the high will probably be 55. It’s sorta strange this year. Very cold in the mornings.