Remind me never to go on any kind of wilderness expedition with Jonah Goldberg. OK, that’s not the kind of thing I actually need to be reminded about, but still.
After reading his latest columnar epic on the non-virtues of the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge, I know exactly what kind of campmate he’d be: the one who spills the washwater into everyone’s sleeping bags and burns a big hole in the tent while he’s at it. And then fires off a gun just for fun in bear country (note: gunfire attracts grizzlies, who assume a carcass or guts may be found in the vicinity thereof).
He’s the kind of doofus who thinks that you can just take a bite out of one chunk of an ecosystem and it doesn’t have ripple effects that harm many more creatures than just those found in his immediate view. Which is why he thinks drilling in ANWR — which, incidentally, would neither increase our "energy security" nor do anything about prices at the pump — is harmless, which we’ve known for some time is simply untrue. [The Natural Resources Defense Council has lots more on ANWR.]
There is an illustrative example of this closer to home here in Seattle that involves our resident population of killer whales in the Puget Sound region. An article I wrote last year for Seattle Magazine explored to what extent they’re being harmed, somewhat unthinkingly, by the thousands of people who come out annually to see them in whale-watching boats — tours that, for the most part, tend to be about enhancing the habitat of the Sound’s wildlife:
The problem is self-evident on a typical summer day off the western coast of San Juan Island. When orcas arrive on the scene, they are accompanied by a massive flotilla of boats: whale-watching tour craft intermingled with private recreational boaters, kayakers and regular users of these waters. The boats zoom in and out and around, creating a frenetic scene. At times during the summer, whale observers say the orcas are accompanied by boats from nearly sunup to sundown.
It’s even more apparent to anyone who drops a hydrophone beneath the surface of Haro Strait and listens to the whales’ conversations, which come in the form of whistles, chirps, calls and clicks. Along with those sounds is the cacophony of engine noise, ranging from the high squeals of small outboards to the overpowering thrum created by large vessels en route to Vancouver and points north through the strait. In recent years, scientists have been studying the effects of these boats and the noise they create on the whales; the data they’ve collected indicates that, at least in years when the supply of chinook salmon that comprise the bulk of their diet is low, the boats are amplifying the harm to the whales.
David Bain, a marine biologist who specializes in killer whales (who was with the University of Washington until recently), has been painstakingly collecting acoustic and behavioral data on the southern residents for over 15 years now. Tall, balding and bearded, he’s the epitome of the careful scientist as he explains in a quiet voice that he’s found two things of concern.
Whales do less foraging when the boats are around, he says. “That probably means that they’re eating less, and acquiring less energy. There is an energy balance in whales, and whale watching has an effect on that.” And the sheer number of vessels creates a critical mass of obstacles that whales then have to maneuver around, causing them to expend more energy than they would otherwise, he says.
He notes that even kayaks can be a problem, especially if they dart into the whales’ path or invade their space, and fail to warn the whales of their presence. Still, a kayak that observes the preferred whale-watching guideline of 100 yards’ distance will have almost no effect on the whales because of its silence, while any power boat within audible range is creating at least some level of disturbance.
You get a little sense of this in the video I made that is atop this post, comprised of photos I mostly took from my kayak of San Juan killer whales, and the recordings I made of them with my hydrophone. At one point, you can hear the whales peacefully communicating — and then a boat engine from a private boat that had been watching the whales kicked on and sped off, but the noise they created lingers on (I actually edited down the noise by several minutes, but you get the idea).
In any event, it all stands as a reminder of how easy it is for humans to harm entire ecosystems, and all the creatures within it, unthinkingly — even when we think that we’re appreciating them, let alone when we’re "harmlessly" building roads and pipelines and drilling operations in the midst of a wilderness.
Would that buffoons like Jonah Goldberg could figure that out. In the meantime, could someone keep him away from my tent?



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david!
Doofus. Love that word.
Saw that Brit Hume thing tonight. Fred what’s his name and Krathaumer say the Republicans have a great issue with this offshore drillinmg and the Democrats are really on the defensive and have a lot of explaining to do. No shit. They said that.
What are these guys smokin’?
Orcinus!
I hear that a poll taken today now has Obama at 70 percent in Florida. Thank you John McCain!
Evening Dave. Good post and squelching of the lamentable Pantload. Jonah is demonstrably ineducable, as you well know from your own experience.
Salmon.
Would that buffoons like Jonah Goldberg could figure that out.
He knows it. He just doesn’t give a shit.
Yeah, mostly he’s worth a poke with a stick just for a laugh every now and then.
Thanks for the Post David we must protect nature’s children if mankind is to survie into the future!
Digg this post Pups David had to do a lot of work to bring this to us!
“We’re repiglicans and we hate nature. And all things natural. That’s not as God intended it to be!”
a very long stick
My guess is that Pantload is not a nature kind of guy.
dugg and thanks nahant
He just thinks it’s more important he be able to gas up Lucianne’s industrial-strength vibrator.
The very idea of Jonah Goldberg camping has provoked hilarity here.
Nah they already closed the season on the west coast except for Alaska. Must be be some other shit!
thank you so much david
Whale dung.
or Ambergris in some species, iirc.
In any possible sense of the word “camping,” it’s pretty hysterical.
Nice pics, David!
I want to take a moment to thank nahant and neuro for their thoughtful digg reminders, and the kind words they use to remind the rest of us of the value — and work! — involved in creating a post hereabouts. Thanks!
your very long stick
(under a kilt)
Hey, EDP. How you doing? Have you been affected by Noah’s second coming in Iowa?
Dugg. Great sounds. Until the motor boat anyway. Thanks David!
Snirk.
In the meantime, could someone keep him away from my tent?
Dunno. Is there food in there?
my very well endowed stick under a kilt
Thanks, had fun taking them but was never happy with my camera. Replaced it this year with a new Nikon D300 that I will be testing out this week.
Just doing what I can to support the Lake and it’s front pagers. But without the rest of the pups helping we would soon fade away.
Can’t wait to see them…! ;-)
Is there something you would like to share with us?
Thanks for helping me clean out the fridge y’all. Someone else might need to find a snack for this evening.
I’m in Iowa City, so it’s impossible not to be affected. Fortunately, I live on the high ground (many of the residential areas here are above the floodplain, which is a big reason why we’re not in as bad of shape as Cedar Rapids). Things seemed to be calmer along the river today, but the water hasn’t gone down very much as yet…and there’s still only one shuttle bus route crossing the river so far.
I am truly jealous a D3000 sit I wish. Me with my little Nikon CoolPix 5600 :>( But it does take good pictures…
what poll is that??? That’d be great but I can’t imagine that being right.
I have a 5400 and adore it but I would take me a D3000.
Glad to hear all is well. Hope things get back to “normal” as quickly as possible. God knows if FEMA will do anything to help the folks who have been affected. Had an aunt who used to live in Des Moines, but they moved to Arizona after they retired.
I have to ask – has FEMA shown up to help? Has anyone from the gov’t been around? Will the Commander Guy do a fly-over?
Betsy, someone was complaining the other day that FDL doesn’t have a butler serving shrimp and mojitos like Ali, the fellow who famously served Broder and Russert in the Dean’s recent encomium to his fallen fellow Villager.
D’you think we could come up with something like that?
Wow, I’m amazed at how loud the motor is… I’ve listened to a lot of whale song that is produced here in the isles, of course motors are edited out, so it caught me by surprise, and you said you even turned down the volume…
Dave, you are going to love that D300. It’s probably the best digital camera Nikon has made, unless you want to fork out another $3000 for a D3 to get a full-frame sensor. I love my D300, and have a hard time not sleeping with it under my pillow…
Man, that’s a big frigging lump.
He’s ahead in ths one:
Still waaay to early but it’s encouraging. If for no other reason than because McCain is going to have to spend $$$$ here he’d rather not have to.
Spesaking of spending $$, didn’t BO once say he was going to do public financing in tne general election if he got nominated??
I haven’t seen anybody who looked like FEMA unless that was them in the helicopters today. Frankly, I’m starting my hopes for a federal response at zero just to save energy downgrading my expectations when the screwjob comes.
How’s this?
Cameras don’t frig.
Probably why I am not sleeping so well at night…
Wow. Got all of the supplies you need?
I suspect that The Pantload in The Wild would be about as good as Bobo at an Applebee’s Salad Bar…
Maybe he said if little Johnnie McCain did the same. He is still not taking money from lobbyist or that weird bundled kind.
This was one of my early efforts, and it’s got a lot of extra noise in it. I’ve learned how to reduce the extra noise (the boat has to be perfectly still) since then. Hopefully I’ll make better recordings this next week.
I made a similar video here of the whales in Johnstone Strait, up along northern Vancouver Island, which is better quality. But I figured I should show Haro Strait whales in a post about them.
We’re all right. It’s not easy getting around town, but there are still plenty of stores open. Like I say, it helps that much of Iowa City is built on the high ground.
No.
Obama said he was open to discussing keeping the general election publicly funded if his GOP opponent was. Considering Obama’s huge small-donor funding, I think he’ll claim he’s “publicly funded” without taxpayer assistance. And crush McCaint’s campaign in the $$ department.
That has been turned by the media, led by Tim Russert, into a “commitment” to federal financing, but Obama never said any such thing.
Actually, I would kind of like to take Jonah on a long hike into the Bob Marshall Wilderness, fire a gun, and leave him there.
Yeah, though I’ve learned never to make fun of the Spawn type of camper because they have an amazing knack for ruining things for everyone else too. Kind of like in real life. So I just avoid them altogether.
That’s correct, Teddy.
We need to pound this one, too.
We don’t have to worry about Tim making those kind of remarks cause I heard today that he died.
Or give him a gun to defend himself against the bears with. Say, that .22 you carry as an extra …
I did not know that about bears being attracted by gunfire. We never see bears in the Western Addition on weekends, when there’s plenty of gunfire. I wonder why not?
Obama said he would consider it if McCain did the same. However, you know how well McSlime did on the public financing since he is apparently breaking his own law every single day.
I should clarify that I would like to shoot the gun into the air, not at Pantload, no matter how richly he deserves it.
I heard today Tim made a rainbow.
You’re talking about black bears. Grizzlies in Montana wilderness are another ball of wax.
Though I shoulda been clearer.
Betcha Lucianne could fight a bear, and win.
Hmmm. Highest density of grizzlies in the lower 48, an attractant, and a pea shooter…. Sounds like fun to me.
Not doing a Cheney, got it.
How do you do that?
“…Spawn type camper…” ROTFLMAO
I know a few folks like that. But the Spawn thing, that’s perfect… Camping with a plasma TV and gas stove…
Heh, that’d only piss off the bears…! ;-)
Probably rape it.
Yes, but it was off the record…
I’m not really sure – I was talking to mom and she told me she had just heard it on the news. I think she watches NBC or MSNBC but I am just not sure. She’s a DFHer like me and we share stories back and forth on this stuff on a daily basis. She watches the MSN and Cable and I am on the toobz…
I’ll see if I can find it.
a double rainbow with cheribims and seraphims holding Tim’s hand as he moved heavenward to shake God’s hand and ask him a few soft ball questions.
We have this type of bear in my neighborhood.
Cute! Now I know why I always delete my browsing history and cookies every single night!
right. so if mccain did public financing, Obama would be going against ghis stated positioj if he didn’t?
I’m just asking. Even if it is a change in position, I say good for him because as you say, he’ll crush McCain raising $$. I don’t think it’s an issue with any legs. I wAs just curious. If it comes up, I’d rather see him say “Fuck you, I have a ton of $$$ and I changed my mind” than try to split hairs and all that, because then it wobn’t go away. For a while anyway.
If he went to heaven then please send me somewhere else.
That is word-for-word what Keith said. Well, the double rainbow coming from the soul of Tim part. Luke said that this Sunday there would be a special Pearly Gates MTP between Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr. I wonder if Tim will ask Alexander Hamilton about the whole octoroon thing. And the, um, gay thing.
Should be a great segment. Set your TiVO, if you are also dead.
Just finally got around to watching Al Gore’s “An Inconvenient Truth.”
Yeah.
Is it hard to get a grizzly bear into one of those harness-thingys?
Bears are attracted to industrial strength vibrators too?
No.
Looking for the quote now, but he said he would consider it if the Gooper nominee would also.
no cement, no lock
I guess that leaves me as the only one who hasn’t seen it.
Well, actually no.
Obama did not state that he WOULD to public financing – just that he would consider it. So his position is that he would consider it, but only if McCain did it as well.
He could skip public financing since he never made a firm commitment to do so. Although to hear the MSM and all the reich-wing hacks tell it it will be etched in stone with a bolt of lightning etc etc etc.
‘Fraid not. I only serve kosher foods.
I think Obama will say,
It would be nice if he said “Fuck you!” too, but I wouldn’t count on it….
Great movie– makes me cry every time.
I have watched it many times with and without friends.
(given many as presents, too!)
Synopsis:
Some things are in fact true nothwithstanding Al Gore having proffered them.
I am now Officially Depressed.
I met one further north, when I was with my dad on a moose hunt… I wouldn’t want to experience that again… It took four shots from several thirty odd sixs to drop it…!
Occasionally we get this type in mine. In some neighborhoods they are a regular feature. One of my colleagues had a mountain take down a deer in her back yard a few years ago.
I haven’t seen it. I don’t do movies. I do read the reviews though. And I have heard of Al Gore.
The gunshots sent them across Market…
Given all the other folks who claim they are going there, I already have reservations for the other place.
I remember being up at Lolo Hot Springs in the mid-’80s with my buddy Tom Webster hanging out in the pools — you have to hike back there about two miles, but we had ridden our mountain bikes from Missoula to get there — and this bozo — a Spawn type of camper — back there with a portable TV. He couldn’t stand to miss his weekly episode of Miami Vice. And he was actually able to get reception.
Yep, that’s the Spawn kinda camper.
Okay, I skimmed the Goldberg article but couldn’t make myself read every sentence of that pap. Let me use a little authority to refute him. I lived part or all of eight summers in Kaktovik when my husband was one of the bush pilots up there. I assisted on some nature trips. I hosted news media and writers in our “hovel,” including the late Ed Abbey. I watched the permafrost thaw and widen by the scars left by vehicles. Year after year.
We didn’t have running water. We didn’t even have outhouses as the permafrost made that unfeasible. You don’t really want to know the details of the infamous “honey buckets.”
Most groceries were three hours away by plane (that is over the coastal plane, up and over the Brooks Range, over the Yukon flats, up and over the White Mountains, and into Fairbanks, often with little weather reporting, so it could be a bit of hunting and pecking through the clouds).
The doctor was in Barrow, two and 3/4 hours away by plane. I helped deliver a baby in the back of a plane. The old men of the village walked on bowed legs because of rickets, during the hard times of their youth.
People my age were taken from their families and sent Outside to boarding schools. Oil money has given them a health center, telephones (we didn’t have them when I first went up there in 78 and a commercial flight and mail only came once a week, if the summer fog wasn’t too thick).
Now there is a school in the town and families can live together. Now there is a fire fighting system so that a house fire doesn’t take a family. Now there is public safety so people don’t have to cower in their homes when a drunken fool takes to town with a gun, as we did in the late 70’s.
But why do they have to sell their souls and their environment to get the basics? Now, while people in Kaktovik love caribou, they are much more dependent on the sea than the land for their subsistence. So, if they have to sacrifice one area, they would rather sacrifice the land than the sea which gives them the bowhead whale.
But the inland people, down in Arctic Village and across the Canadian border, depend on the caribou that swing up to calve in ANWR during the summer and then swing back and are hunted later in the year. They get a vote in this too, don’t you think?
I’m tired of pompous people who never spent a night hugging the curvature of the earth on a prairie pronouncing that it isn’t “pretty enough.” My daughter, at the age of three, would beg to go roll on the tundra and look at the beautiful arctic flowers. We would watch the snowy owls and the sandhill cranes (and look over our shoulders for polar bears and griz). To watch a musk ox swirl and run is one of my most joyous memories, but to Goldberg, it doesn’t match a Hallmark card or even some stereotypical calendar, he sits in his fat-assed judgment, as if he were the Creator himself.
He’ll never match the elegance or the nobility of the village elder, offering me whale meat, saying that he had fixed it for me. I love that land, the wolves howling in the midnight sun, or the wolverine loping up the riverside with that strange and deeply unsettling gate.
Sorry for the rant, but this thing has frosted me forever. When my daughter was three, she poked her finger into the chest of the Secretary of Interior (I was holding her) and said “Don’t put pipes on my pretty land.” I couldn’t say it better even now, twenty one years later.
So, we’re all packed. Managed to get each person to one suitcase (Cassie also has a duffel bag) and one carry on, but it means Texteen carrying my ice pack lunchbox and anything else too expensive to put on the back of the wheelchair. All shampoos are in tiny containers in ziplock bags in the backpacks. My medical machines are in their original cases with the manufacturer seals and the prescriptions taped to the case.
Thank you David.
A lot of fairly harmless snark on the thread tonight, I see.
I just can’t join in, not on this kind of subject. Too close to the heart.
This is not DisneyTM folks. This is real and WAS thriving before we arrived on the scene. Please try to leave as small a footprint as possible when you go into the wild. In today’s scrambled arena, wild is fragile and endangered, even by those who would enjoy its company.
Ok. I think I am going to be violently ill now.
Change that. I also have a duffel bag since mine was the ticket purchased in March.
Wow. Thank you, AdAstra. An awesome contribution.
Sounds like a plan, Ma’am! Good luck!
Can one edit? The wolverine has a gait, not a gate.
You may know Tom, BTW. He runs the University Theater and does a lot of music promotion. He was one of the guys who got the Stones to play in MoTown.
One can ask the mods to edit for one. Oh mods??? Please read 104.
I really enjoyed you comment. Alaska is fascinating to me – have never been there but the pictures I see are beautiful.
That was not a rant. It was a beautiful movie in my head as I read it. Thanks.
David — do you know how I can contact Dr. David Bain? I believe he may be the David Bain I went to grade school with.
Thanks.
oregondave AT hevanet DOT com
I have met him, but do not really know him. His former tech director is a friend of mine.
Amen!
I’ve fixed it.
Thanks for your advocacy of both the people and the wild things. It is too easy for people who have never been in the back country to make decisious about stuff they know nothing about. It is people like you who have that knowledge and the voice to speak up that will help the rest of us help you save it.
Thanks again!
There was a really interesting article today about how the airlines have screwed this whole charge-for-baggage thing up. They should be charging a premium for carry-ons, not checked bags. The overheads are now going to look like stuffed landfills now, since it’s “free” and the delays in getting everyones “carry-ons” will slow the entire boarding/departure process down as Flight Attendants have to try and separate too-large bags from their travelers and “gate check” them.
No one ever accused major airline management of being smart, just rich. For some strange reason.
Yeah, I’ve never figure that out. They have that little sign and a box that says you cannot carry-on anything that won’t fit in the box. But I see people all the time with carry-ons that would not fit in that box in anyone’s wildest imagination. I think that box should be by the door and if it doesn’t fit – you don’t get on the plane until you go back and check it. Why should everyone else be inconvenienced because you can’t follow directions!
thanks david
I have considered mailing my clothes ahead of me.
Sea mamals don’t like US Navy sonar it does a lot of damage besides hearing David. Any poop on that from you or CTuttle? I know the navy ahs operation clearance for sonar exercises to detect enemy craft.
Because that’s the way it is.
I see people everyday ignoring the “rules of the road” and driving like maniacs.
I see people everyday ignoring the laws and shredding the Constitution.
Few follow the directions…
The whole thing is ridiculous. I have a great post making fun of it all, scheduled for the treehouse in about an hour.
There’s some contact info for him here. There’s a pic of him here.
I’ve done that lots of times and really like it. Very little to carry.
my sister moved to england and mailed all her stuff there – was cheaper than paying for moving – sold the big stuff and mailed the smaller tables etc.
Charlie Rose has Abramoff crony Ralph Reed on his show tonight to talk politics (mostly Obama and religion) and so Reed can flog his new novel. I do not know which of these two gormless goops deserves the other more.
ola pups
how is everyone this warm evening?
The Navy is under a court order to not use sonar for training exercises or experiments in areas where sea mammals congregate off the California coast for breeding and resting. They fought it and kept losing, and Bush gave them permission to ignore the court and then the Ninth Circuit stepped in and basically said Bush could NOT give them permission and the order stands. Last I heard, the Navy is observing sonar silence at the appropriate times, monitored by a half dozen enviro-groups who brought the lawsuits.
Sigh, no wonder the highlight of my week is Bill Moyers.
warm but packed.
Thanks. I had found the picture, so that’s why I asked . . .
mary
you have mail on FB
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My brother lives in AK and loves it. I’ve yet to go, but I have heard from all of my family that it is truly breathtaking. Thank you David.
Nite all– enjoy the full moon.
good that your packed. are you excited?
boa noite angie
Tex, Love to read it, send me a link usndemvetathotmaildotcom (is that the right way to make a mailto link?)
Good, actually. Just watched the longest and maybe the most beautiful sunset ever from the west-facing window of my third floor apartment.
Twilight and sunset go on for ever this time of year here on the northern prairies.
Night angie.
Time for an oil derrick off the coast of Kennebunkport.
-G
That will do fine.
I don’t know. I personally think we should open the Bush family compound to drilling.
i can imagine how gorgeous it was. it is the opposite in brasil (well the northeast). sunsets literally last a few eyeblinks.
right in the middle of their boat dock should be the proper location
G’nite, angie.
Happy full moon (and an early Happy Solstice).
Good dreams.
I just got back to Alaska from three weeks in the lower 48. God, am I glad i’m back!
check your email, but the link isn’t live until 1 AM eastern.
The environment can and will be a bigger issue in this election if we all stand up for the issues that matter most!
http://www.mccainheartsyuccca.com
It really needs to be right next the Bushies dock!
HA! so many possibilities with that comment Dr. Dick.
Love it!
woohoo! glad you are back too et – missed ya
ET!
Have the media gerbils on the treadmill been right about anything this entire primary season? Anything?
-G
Beautiful story. Are you new here? Welcome to the Lake.
I would say with crude leaking all over… but Maine’s coastline is much to beautiful to allow drilling…
okay, will do :)
ET,
Alaska is now being called a state that is in play for Obama.
-G
welcome home, ET.
Oh wow. Thanks for reminding me. She is now 20.
I am open to all of them.
I believe, Loo Hoo, that AdAstra is our beloved SubwaySeranade.
Could be wrong…
good memory newton..
Was off locking doors and will say goodnight again to y’all– thanks wobblybits and DrDick.
I had been staring at the gorgeous full moon and wish you a happy Solstice right back, Kirk.
Welcome home, ET– hope your travels were delightful.
Happy traveling to you TexBetsy.
Happy birthday to your sweetie, Dr. Dick.
Thanks Angie. Welcome back ET. Happy Birthday Dr D’s Shadow.
g’nite angie
Missed you, too, Suzanne. After three and a half days in Sacramento and Rancho Cordova, there was NO WAY I was going to go withn 50 miles of another California city. We managed to visit one small town after another in Northern California that time has seemingly forgotten. In one way or another.
And ETette is safely graduated from college and headed to her first job – doing the first ever butterfly survey of the North Cascades Wilderness Area. Butterflies are a marker kind for climate change, so her employer is figuring it is about time to get some baseline data. Next year they’ll survey Mt. Rainier National Park. And then alternate between North Cascades and Rainier every other year until they an create a model.
Either that, or a complete lunk. I’m hoping you’re right, Suz.
Thanks for the link David. My apologies for stepping on your toes as you are obviously much better informed than I am.
Great article on your page too.
Good to know. I hope Greenpeace is one of those monitoring as well as Scripps Institute, Seems like satelite monitoring like googlr easrth could track the pods to see how close Navy was. I remember the incident in Hawaii waters when a Navy sub sank a Japanese tourist ship and gave a lot of BS testimony. A ninth and 5th District judge both ordered the Navy to comply with NEPA! Outstanding.
I like Smoke’s one green and one yellow eye…!
that sounds like a wonderful job for ms etette
Hi Suz! How are you this fine evening?
Nope, I’m not new here, but I’ve been silent for awhile. I’m in a lot of transition, getting ready to move to Butte, Montana in August when I get the youngest off to college. I used to post as NZ Expat, when we were living overseas. We sent our son back to the States to finish high school (which he did in May) and I came back for his senior year. Though I thought I would be returning to NZ, my husband took a job in Montana. With the rising fuel costs, I guess it is best to be on the same continent as our young adult children, if we ever want to see them.
I’m headed to Montana for two weeks shortly, with little to no internet access, and even now, I’m supposed to be doing other things than posting here. But Goldberg got me riled tonight.
I FBed you back. :)
CORRECTED!
http://www.mccainheartsyucca.com
busier than the short arm inspector after the ship pulls outta port (as my dad would say).
fork.. i was totally wrong thinking you were subway
sorry nzexpat aka adastra
They are all on the same treadmill kissing each others’ butts.
Yup. Maybe three, just to be on the safe side. Looks oily about 30 feet offshore.
my bad.
sorry for the stray lead, loo hoo
thanks… welcome to the lake – i don’t recall seeing you here before.
please remember, we like to keep blogwhoring down to once per day…
Actually, that is “redeye”. Both of hers are actually blue. She is a Chicago junkyard kitteh (literally) and her mother was feral, but she obviously has a lot of Siamese in her.
Now there’s an image I don’t need to remember…LOL!!
It is true. Here were the February 4 numbers:
Barack Obama — 6,471
Mitt Romney — 5,177
Mike Huckaby — 2,596
Hillary Clinton — 2,138
Ron Paul — 2,004
John McCain — 1,837
Just after this Address to our State Democratic Party Convention, he promised to try to get up here. He’d be the first Democrat to take Alaska since LBJ, and the first candidate ever to visit during the campaign season.
OK, so who did Subway become?
Definitely, a lunk…! ;-)
Quizno? :-)
(((NZ Expat/ADAstra)))
missed you, and am hoping your move is not too traumatic.
Nite Suzanne– see you all tomorrow.
#$%^&*(^$
That would make sense. But if so, why the name change…again? Subway? How’s your wife doing these days?
Let me welcome you to the neighborhood. Butte has its attractions (or so I am told), but do not go swimming in the Berkeley Pit.
Dugg it!
twas my booboo too loohoo.. adastra is not subway but nzexpat – name changed because nz expat is now in the states and not an expat :)
only 12 diggs so far :(
Hey – I want the
creditblame!It was all me Loo Hoo. I fed Suzanne the partial and she ran with it.
Does Cal Thomas have the self awareness to realize how much of an out of touch dildo he has become for his “terrorist fist bump” mockery of the Obama’s?
-G
subways new name is AstralTechnician
sorry for the confusion
Well, pleased to meet you. Keep in touch, and welcome to the US of A.
got it
Thank you so much *g*
boa noite pups. i’m fading fast here. restful slumber to all.
boa noite wobbly
Aloha, wobbs and angie!
Night wobs.
AstroTechsomethingoranother.
Can’t remember. He played in the NYC subways and had the handle SubwaySerenade, then changed. Now I’m thinking about him and worrying. His wife was quite ill.
Well, Butte has two things I can think of. Sort of. Columbia Gardens – which is really in Anaconda, and the fact that it is sort of in the middle of the state and you can get anywhere else from it. Ha!
My dad grew up there – his dad, he and his older brother all worked The Pit. What a place. Skid row city. I guess they are trying to revitalize the downtown and make it more inviting. But The Pit dominates everything nonetheless.
Wobbly! Boa noite.
I lived in Great Falls for almost a year. Montana is one of the most beautiful places I have ever seen.
Thanks for the welcomes, Angie, Dr. Kirk, TexBetsy, netonusr….
We missed three weeks of mostly lousy weather, with it being as cool, wet and windy up here as it was in the Pacific Northwest for the beginning of June. It got nice the day we got back, with temperatures in the 70s since. Busy catching up on the garden and working for Diane Benson.
Why is it I always get a headache when I think of Montana these days?
I know it’s a beautiful state…
They have discovered some new bacteria in the water at the bottom of the Berkeley Pit. This bacteria has the ability to live in that toxic stew of heavy metals and other noxious stuff, and flourishes there. Amazing!
last summer, dr dick had all those fires and the smoke was giving him (and everyone else there) headaches… maybe from that?
You’re fixated on Conrad Burns?
We got Tester now. Take heart.
Welcome back, ET. The news from your state doesn’t quit these days!
At least in the western portion. Unfortunately, in many places you do not want to look too closely below the surface. We are still paying for the legacy of more than a century of mining activity in heavy metals and arsenic contamination. The Berkeley Pit we mentioned (an abandoned open pit copper mine in the middle of Butte) is full of water so toxic it will kill water bird which land on it.
I know you all can do better!
Think kindly of us – we are slowly turning from red to blue. We have a Dem governor, one house of state legislature and both senators now in the blue column. That’s good, no?
Big new wind farms, lots of ethanol from switch grass, not corn. Trying to do our part…
Crapola. I was thinking of Wyoming. My bad!
One of the extremophiles the biologists have been going crazy abou. Possibly a relic from the beginnings of life on earth.
(refers to the need for more Diggs, see link at 192 or top of page)
Slowly but surely we are changing the face of the state.
you would think that Jonah, being himself a beached whale, would have more empathy with the environmental plight of wild species
Hugs…I didn’t mean anything about the good people…in fact I was thinking of Cheney. Wrong state altogether. And good thoughts of the people of Wyoming!!! I better stop now.
Hey, you are so right, and FUNNY!
Here in Missoula we are cleaning up an old dam. Took the dam down and are digging out about 2 million cubic feet of toxic sediment that had built up behind it. Two rivers now running free and wild again. And the first trout up past the dam site!
no wonder you had a headache.. cheney is a carrier
That’s a hoot, Loo Hoo! I’ve been so busy, I hadn’t seen it yet. Thanks.
Where are you? If I don’t find a job soon in Butte, I was thinking about trying to find ways to help turn Montana a deeper shade of blue this coming autumn. Any ideas?
I’m off to bed. I’m going biking in the Rattlesnake NRA in the morning and need my rest.
Hey, I get a headache just thinking about Darth as well. Bellyache too. No apologies necessary!
I am so frustrated by the issue of “drilling in the Arctic Reserve. I’ve fought this for so many years. My man is FROM AK, from reservation up there. He’s Native and this is a huge issue in our lives. He knows and sees the impact of big corp drilling or threatening to do so anywhere near the wildlife up there. it TOTALLY honestly effects the migration patterns and therefore, the peoples food sources. This is a HIGHLY CHARGED issue in my home and effects us and family PERSONALLY. I keep fighting as I can. I have moved money from this issue to Barack’s campaign, we don’t really have a lot of money to give to multiple sources. Thank you David for putting a spotlight on this, and I’m sure Bu$hCo is escalating this issue cause it’s his last days in office, you know, GIT WHILE THE GITTEN’S GOOD thing going on. i live in the 4 corners area an see more and more oil rigs on reservation, which has to do with poor governance of Navajo Nation, but it creates more road kill, wasted landscapes and NO ONE down there is benefiting in any way! it’s truly sad to behold.
PLEASE, do whatever each and every one of you can to STOP the drilling in ANWR. It DOES have a terrible effect on the wildlife there, and therefore completely impacts the People’s ability to feed themselves and their families. They haul wood, cut and burn it for heat in the winter. 3 miles
north into the arctic circle, they are off the grid. They live this way and have for centuries. Please do what anyone can to stop this. Most of the people there now are elders, some in-betweeners, and a few youth. But it’s a lifestyle that has survived through the centuries, really, and they WANT their lives, they don’t WANT the lower 48 to infringe upon that.
Thanks~ David. And Thank You pups, for listening and acting.
pax
Aloha, DD!
g’nite dr (pause) dick
I thought I learned in a political history class that Nixon, in 1960, pledged to campaign in all 50 states, and shortly before the election, when he should have perhaps been visiting more battleground states, took the time to make a trip to Alaska to fulfill his pledge, a move considered unwise by some pundits. That may have been in Teddy White’s book.
Or did you mean the first Democratic candidate?
sleep well, dr d.
I’m in Missoula (I teach at the university). Plenty to do around here. The Democrats are looking for volunteers and even paid staff people. The governor and Sen. Bauchus are both up for re-election (both should win easily) and lots of close other races. The Obama campaign is also looking for people as in the most recent polling McCain’s lead is within the margin of error.
late late nite zed to claim upstairs
I apologize for the repost, but I really want the good people in here to READ this and take it to heart. Elders, who are the Native’s most VALUED resource are in innement danger and need a voice from “down here”.
Help???
Thank you ALL! And David, Thank YOU. For bringing this up.
I am so frustrated by the issue of “drilling in the Arctic Reserve. I’ve fought this for so many years. My man is FROM AK, from reservation up there. He’s Native and this is a huge issue in our lives. He knows and sees the impact of big corp drilling or threatening to do so anywhere near the wildlife up there. it TOTALLY honestly effects the migration patterns and therefore, the peoples food sources. This is a HIGHLY CHARGED issue in my home and effects us and family PERSONALLY. I keep fighting as I can. I have moved money from this issue to Barack’s campaign, we don’t really have a lot of money to give to multiple sources. Thank you David for putting a spotlight on this, and I’m sure Bu$hCo is escalating this issue cause it’s his last days in office, you know, GIT WHILE THE GITTEN’S GOOD thing going on. i live in the 4 corners area an see more and more oil rigs on reservation, which has to do with poor governance of Navajo Nation, but it creates more road kill, wasted landscapes and NO ONE down there is benefiting in any way! it’s truly sad to behold.
PLEASE, do whatever each and every one of you can to STOP the drilling in ANWR. It DOES have a terrible effect on the wildlife there, and therefore completely impacts the People’s ability to feed themselves and their families. They haul wood, cut and burn it for heat in the winter. 3 miles
north into the arctic circle, they are off the grid. They live this way and have for centuries. Please do what anyone can to stop this. Most of the people there now are elders, some in-betweeners, and a few youth. But it’s a lifestyle that has survived through the centuries, really, and they WANT their lives, they don’t WANT the lower 48 to infringe upon that.
Thanks~ David. And Thank You pups, for listening and acting.
pax
Thanks. Ad Astra is part of the Kansas motto, Ad Astra per Aspera…to the stars through difficulties. I’m native to Kansas and find myself here again after bouncing about the globe. I’ve always been fond of the motto and think it has the hope that our candidate talks about.
I would have liked to stay NZ Expat, but hardly truth in advertising. I have found something to love everywhere I’ve lived (Wichita, Hillsboro, Newton, Lawrence, Ks; Lincoln, NB; Bethlehem, PA; Seattle, WA; Kaktovik and Fairbanks, AK; Oak Park, IL; Columbia, MD; Taupo, NZ. I guess I shouldn’t tie my handle to a place, but I’m quite oriented to place and maps and like putting myself in the context of place more than anything.
When I was in college, I saw Five Easy Pieces and I had to go to that place, which was the Pacific Northwest. Had eight wonderful years there, but jobs took us away. Now I may be too used to abundant sunshine to return up there. Butte may be a bit chilly for me, but I’ll find something to like there, I know.
I suppose you’re right. I’ll check. Thanks.
Will do. What brought you guys to Four Corners? Just got there (Farmington) the summer before last.
siri, bring it upstairs…
I admire you…you’re so adventureist!
We are two different stories. We met in 04, after having both at the same time left our places of birth and came to this general area. We met on the internet, met in r/t as month afterwards and traveled the SouthWest (within Navajo Nation boundaries, mostly) for about 3 weeks. Then he wanted to see my home, so I showed him and he never left. In a nutshell, so to speak (likely TMI, but it’s bedtime).
LOO HOO!!! You are in Farm???? Now??
wow
THAT would be VERY kewl!