Poor John McCain can’t catch a break trying to get some daylight between his own self and Preznit Clusterfuck.
This morning, McCaint decided California’s fifty-five electoral college votes (as well as Florida’s twenty-seven!) weren’t worth trying for, as he bravely stood up in front of an appreciative bunch of Houston oilmen and advocated offshore drilling:
"We can do this in ways that are consistent with sensible standards of environmental protection. And in states that choose to permit exploration, there must be an appropriate sharing of benefits between federal and state governments," he said.
McCain got a loud standing ovation from the crowd in Houston, many of whose members likely are connected to the oil companies that turned this city into the metropolis that is has become.
Such courage! Such honor! Kind of like Barack Obama going to Detroit to challenge auto industry executives about making products with higher gas mileage — except, you know, the opposite.
Of course, McCaint’s new offshore oil drilling plan puts him at odds with the Preznit, who has long protected his little brother Jebbie’s Florida turf. Bush opposes lifting the federal moratorium, at Jebbie’s urging. This gives McCaint some precious daylight between himself and the incredibly unpopular Bush. Right?
But McCain’s central message, derided by Senator Barack Obama in a day of political attacks and counterattacks by the two campaigns, was that he was not President George W. Bush or Vice President Dick Cheney, and that he would not pursue the environmental policies of his two fellow Republicans in the unpopular administration.
"John McCain stood up to the president and sounded the alarm on global warming five years ago," said the narrator in a television commercial released on Tuesday by McCain’s campaign. "Today, he has a realistic plan that will curb greenhouse gas emissions."
Except, of course, that when it comes to daylight between himself and the Preznit, McCaint always needs to check with the White House Political Affairs Office. Apparently, that got overlooked today.
WASHINGTON, June 17 (Reuters) – President George W. Bush will make an announcement on Wednesday about energy and call on Congress to pass legislation lifting a ban on offshore oil drilling, the White House said.
"With gasoline now over $4 a gallon, tomorrow he will explicitly call on Congress to also pass legislation lifting the congressional ban on safe, environmentally friendly offshore oil drilling," White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said on Tuesday.
Dana "Pig Missile" Perino in the middle square, to block, please! You gotta wonder, who is the White House rooting for, anyway?



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Teddy!
Fitz nuptials!
Evening Teddy. Hey Doodle.
McCain, d’oh.
Digg it!
(((Teddy)))
Hiya, Bets! ‘grats on the new chair, mon cherie.
Fitz indeed…. is this the thread where the LakeLadies (and some LakeLads, too) come to rend their garments and wail?
Randall Samborn, Fitz’s spokesperson, ever vigilant…
Good evening, Teddy.
Is there anything less cogent than John McCain’s campaign for President?
Oh, yeah – ChimpCo.
And get the fuck offa my lawn.
Hello, everyone! How about that sneaky Pig Missile, waiting for McCain to sop up all the press adulation for “breaking with the Preznit’s policy” and then — wham! — smacking it out of the park, during Countdown!
If the damn Dems go along with W and vote for drilling in the Gulf…I’m switching to Republican….just for spite…
You so funny…
Rending garments and wailing here…
teddy!!!
I missed that. Did I miss anything?
I was just wondering why the ‘family values’ crowd isn’t celebrating the Obama family? I mean two people who obviously love each other, two cute kids, a dad who actually appears to like being with his kids.
Unlike say, an adulterer, serial married guy who calls his wife a c**t, and who was probably fooling around with Vicky Isenman…
dugg and thanks neuro
So McSame will further pollute our coasts (Florida has a huge no fishing zone if I remember)
While Obama will move tp alternatives like electric motors
McSame will go down in infamy.
Already OT. Oy! Forgive me Teddy. Need to ask some advice.
Traveling for 8 days. What can I freeze and what should I give to a neighbor?
grapes
yellow squash
refrig package of ravioli, uncooked (do i cook and then freeze?)
half onion in a plastic bag
Hopefully we’ll eat it all tomorrow night, but can’t guarantee anything.
*sigh* married!
Not rending no garments here.
Firstly, already married.
Secondly, he’s got pocky face skin.
Thirdly, Happy for him and her. Hope she sees him once in a while.
Let him fight the bad guys.
Woot for him.
Hi Y’all.
LS you are Not switching…no matter.
And I can imagine them sleeping in the same bed together. Unlike Geoarge and Plastic. Or John and Cun4.
Suzanne!
STOP being so damn healthy!
Thanks for that…
Dugg!
Drive by, and off topic, sorry
From an email
Oh, btw McBush doesn’t have a chance in Cali
Hope you have a recipe that uses all that, Betsy!
Three great WaPo chatz tomorrow:
Alex Gibney (”Taxi to the Dark Side”) chatz at 1pm eastern about his new project, “Gonzo: The Life and Work of Dr Hunter S Thompson,” which screens tomorrow at the Silverdocs film festival in Silver Spring.
Donna Edwards also chatz at 1pm eastern; her special election to the House of Representatives was today!
Also chatzing at 1pm is friend of FDL, White House Watch author Dan Froomkin.
LOL
Betsy, freeze the ravioli, no cook it. Cook squash, then freeze. Frozen grapes make great snacks. Onion – you could could with squash. Saute them in butter or oil until soft. Do the onions first.
I can’t help it.
Freeze everything.
And, then have a geeeerrreat time in the big city.
Thanks for the duggs!
Dang, I was thinkin’ about Fitz and the teacher…
you’re just so cute!
You can freeze the grapes and the ravioli as is.
Chop the onion up and then you can freeze it also.
The squash – eat it or give it.
teddy, i sure hope dana pig missle perino has a perfectly horrible day at work tomorrow
Music. The refrain irks me, the verses rock.
That was supposed to read “you could cook” not could could.
OH! Them, too!
The squash? Blame Wangdangdoodle! She bought too much! Hey Doodle, want a squash?
Isn’t that the sweetest? A 34 year old HeadStart teacher to his 46 years. So cool. Hope they have minifitzes.
Edwards Defeats Challengers!
Some great photos of Donna campaigning, at the link….
If it is zucchini, make her eat it. I hate zucchini. Yellow squash is OK.
you mean, like denying that the preznit’s endorsement of offshore
spillingdrilling positions McBush closer to him?and then denying it sixteen different ways after the press corpse asks it sixteen different ways?
What did I miss?
I ate all the zucchini except for half of one.
I brought 4. It’s not like I grew my own and left them on your doorstep.
Of course, you can return them if they are still viable.
The Bush snuggle-up to McCain on the offshore drilling moratorium was revealed as Breaking News! on Countdown tonite. I thought it was funny, after all the stories all day long about McCain “distancing” himself from the Preznit with his courageous speech in Houston today.
Thus this post.
Normally a departing incumbent Presnit of the same party would be coordinating with the new candidate to get the message straight. Unfortunately, in this case, McSlime doesn’t want to coordinate – and thus – the coordination is happening anyway!
Ha hahahahahahahaha!
I went to your wedding altough I was dreading the thought of losing you
The organ was playing and my poor heart was daying my dreams my dreams fell through.
When I awoke it was only a joke and the special counsel was called to Impeach the nasty perps…I think I hear Bruce Sringstein Born In The U.S.A.
Donna Edwards results?
I wonder if the preznit is going to dog McBush like that all the way until November.
As if in some last frantic desperate attempt to lift his own sagging ratings by grabbing onto McBush’s coattails
which are nonexistent
can’t wait to see the preznit walking through a marketplace in Iraq in a flak jacket and buying $5 rugs
He can’t coordinate, cuz he can’t remember
She won!
W wants brother Jebby as the next Preszdeeintnt. He floated his name out yesterday….nothing happened…no earthquakes…no outcry….
Just wait.
McCain/Jeb or…if McCain bows out for some reason….
Jeb/romney…This is the Neocon dream ticket….right here.
Diebold…..
LooHoo, did you see that Issa was WPITW on Countdown, for his segue from a Tim Russert tribute to a plea for offshore oil drilling? Keith was righteous — called him “slimy” and a “sleazeball”
Here’s the link (ad runs first, starts right away….)
cuz he wouldn’t understand even if he could remember
At my 43!
Like “Don’t reinvent the wheel” from the healthcare post! G
Did you catch this morning’s Senate Energy & Natural Resources Committee Hearing on Transmission of Renewable Electricity, T. Boone Pickens pretty much slapped him upside his haid.
It’s in the Recent Programs section, scroll down for Senate Energy & Natural Resources Committee Hearing on Transmission of Renewable Electricity.
Pickens gives his opening statement at about 15 minutes, 54 seconds, Q&A starts around 45 minutes, 40 seconds.
The above statements from Pickens are at 1 hour, 19 minutes.
Whoo Hoo!!!
I think this was deliberate rat-fucking by the White House today. Today proved, pretty clearly to me, that this White House wants a clear deck in 2012 for Jeb to run against Preznit Obama.
Yay Donna!!! Wake up Pelosi!!!!!!!!!
That’s an oxymoron, right…? ;-)
Aloha, Late Niters!
Let’s just hope that brand is irrepriavly bamageged. And fuck spell check.
Are there states claiming their resources as their own? That’s pretty much the way it’s been done, no? Minnesota Mining &Manufacturing uses Minnesota resources…logging for states with timber, etc. Why would state resources suddenly become federal? Am I all screwed up on this?
They are so brash, they’d run him now….
There was a diary on Kos yesterday about a guy called Mica…I think it was a Dengre diary, I’m not sure. Anyway, this Mica guy is at the core of voter fraud in Florida…totally worth investigating. Maybe you read about it or know about it already.
Iceland suggestion.
I did see that, and it’s saved for my eventual “Worst of Issa” YouTube to come out round about September…
Jack of Asses.
McCain goes on and on about the “pristine” ANWR, but I think (despite the suntan lotion floating on the surface of the waves) Miamians and Santa Monicans are gonna say, “What are we, chopped liver?”
Everybody considers their own ocean pristine. Nobody wants oil derricks in their view. And Americans know it’ll have as much impact on their current gas prices — or oil prices worldwide anytime, ever — as a gas tax holiday.
It’s another gimmick and a giveaway to Big Oil. And the audience cheers at the Houston Petro Club made it very clear who is for it.
Can spell check even make a recommendation…? ;-)
Not to mention that we might want to keep our oil in the bank for a rainy day…
Here’s the Dengre diary from Kos about this Mica guy…he says Mica and crew are up to no good for the ‘08 election. We need to expose these criminals.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..04527/7035
Oh yeah. In my pants.
Gahd, I hope not!
It’s great the way it is!
Irreversibly damaged? ***G***
Evening all. I see McSameOldSameOld has his marching orders and is mavericking ahead at the behest of the oil men.
*clink*
It could have been Iceland Bimini…that makes sense too..both geographical locations……
I agree whole heartedly…! My current pet peeve is the Navy’s use of sub-sonic sonar… It totally f*cks up the whales, dolphins and orcas sense of direction and equilibrium…! Btw, the Boston Garden is chanting “Nah na Nah na, hey hey, GOODBYE…! 8-)
Oh yeah…
one more question from the lady who never leaves home ….
one of the wheels on my suitcase doesn’t turn. The axle is broken or missing or something. Do they repair those things?
McSameOldShit?
NIMBY syndrome is gonna have a NIMO subset
Evening everyone!
It would be at least a decade, maybe longer, before any oil at all could be had from ANWAR or any offshore sites. Meanwhile, the price goes up. Better to spend that money on finding alernative sources than drilling for oil when we already know there’s a finite supply.
Bushy is delusional to think that Jeb might have a chance at the White House. He’s managed to damage the family name to the point that it will not be viable for at least a generation, hopefully much, much longer.
Looks like joy in Beantown tonight, the Celtics are beating the Lakers like a rented mule.
Perhaps the oil oligarchs will credit him with changing W’s “mind” while the rest of coastal America goes What The Fuck?
Yay Celtics. Yay Boston.
Do you always have wheel trouble when you travel? Depending upon the value of the suitcase, you may be able to get it repaired at a luggage repair store; but if it is cheap stuff, like mine, better to be a good American consumer: throw away the luggage, buy a pretty new suitcase, and fly your flag pin proudly!
It is gruesome…! Aloha MM!
teddy prefers that we keep his threads sports free. we can celebrate on my late late nite thread tonight, sports fans (or commiserate)
Jebidiah Bush had better wait until his brother passes away (God rest his soul) before tryin for the White House.
How’s the fucker going to run AGAINST his own brother’s record? On the other hand, how could he run ON it..?
I think it’s just too fuckin bad for Jebidiah. The idiot came in and fucked things up.
It was cheap crap my folks bought TexTeen when he was too little to carry his duffle and grandpa didn’t want to!
Maybe the shoe doctor place could fix it…or at least jury rig it…with another kind of wheel…like a little cart wheel or something. It’s a pain to not be able to wheel it through the airport. There’s always superglue.
Thank you Suzanne, I thought people were talking about Irish people…. Sometimes I don’t even recognize the references!
The Dorque in Chief thinks that Obama’s presidency will be terrible and that we will turn to another Bush to “save” us from the environment, decent health care, etc.
I’d much prefer to see wind turbines than oil platforms and derricks…
Electronic voting machines.
Teddy. you can’t use W in the same sentence as mind. Makes my haid ’splode.
Here’s what i want to know. How is it that Cassie packed everything she needed for NY back when she was in El Paso, had grandma supplement when she was here, and now she STILL needs to go shopping again tomorrow?
The rest of America has long been going “WHAT THE FUCK!” when it comes to Dubya’s “mind”. Oh, and how do you change something which does not exist? Bush operates on the basis of a system of decentralized neural ganglia.
I had a wheel fall off! Have Tex teen look at this. You might be able to pull out the axle, and reinsert it back into the wheel. It worked for me for a few years.
God willing the bush brand is FUBAR.
solar in the day and wind turbines to catch that wind that always comes up when the sun sets. saw a show last night on how those two really should go hand in hand when looking for alternative energy sources
The Obama presidency, should it occur, will more than likely be a failure- as will the McBush presidency, should it occur.
The problems are larger than one term- and the voters ain’t gonna wait for two..
I predict a one term president this time around.
and can we also mock the sports fans? :)
yep.
Teenager?
There. Fixed it for you.
Rigs off the coast of Florida “should” cost McBush the Florida vote. The prospect of oil globs on their white beaches would destroy their economy…
Oh yeah…that’s a pattern isn’t it…
Now we have NOLA wrecked, Cedar Rapids wrecked, Des Moines wrecked, etc., in the next week or so, we’ll have a few more cities wrecked.
Tell her to shop in NYC.
Shop Costco. Quality at reasonable prices. Then you’ll have luggage for the rest of your life.
NOT Walmart. They sell crap.
Ummm, she’s a teen aged girl?
Careful, big boy…! ;-)
not recommended
not to mention *peace* and *international esteem*
Not to mention the untold damage that offshore drilling and the transport of the oil has done to the crucial marshland that used to protect the coast of Louisiana.
Reminds me of a story that happened to my friend Davy at the Kerrville Fold Fesival. Broke an axle and did donuts all night.
I’ll bet Obama will get people on board during the first state of the union. He trusts Americans to be able to THINK.
Word.
That’s OKarma…didn’t Jebidiah build houses that fell down in hurricanes while neighboring houses stayed up?
Brothers Bush gettin’ together — my hurricane trumps yours….
OK. Going to bring it to my locally owned hardware store in the AM and ask their opinion. THEN gonna find a friend with a Costco membership if I need to.
Dr. Dick!!!
Absolutely.
This McCain proclamation of drilling in the Gulf should knock him out of the election if the implications are publicized. Push it.
I really think we need to diversify more and develop multiple sources. Part of our current problem is that we have become over reliant on a single, finite energy source. We really should not repeat that mistake. Likewise, given current technologies, neither solar nor wind power are really suitable for all locales (think Seattle for solar). We also need to think about small scale generation projects – buildings which provide all or most of their own power. They are doing a lot of this in Europe right now.
So we buy new TravelPro luggage, and it is too large to take on board…I’m a loser.
Actually his name’s John Ellis Bush, I think the Jeb thing is just part of that whole Bush family as folksy Texans lie.
Betsy will have to do donuts at the airport?
Yeah, Jeb’s his brother, but he’s not from Texas and doesn’t speak with a fake accent like W…but, what the heck, W isn’t from TX either.
They sell a really nice package of luggage (I think four pieces). You could claim what you like and save the other piece(s) for a gift for your son or Cassie. Seems to me its $100. +/-.
There’s also something called tidal energy our Boi Mayor is all excited about. Harnessing the energy of the tides going in and out, or something.
Plus, there’s using less energy. I know Cheney says conservation is stupid, but that means it must be a good thing, right?
Only if she loses an axle. Donuts should not be a problem. Betsy has connections.
Christine, what???
Nope! Betsy finally got a 2nd brake put onto the real wheelchair! But using a loaner for the trip, one that will fit in my parents’ car.
My snazzy new chair will be ready in a month. It’s first ultrasounds are posted on facebook. Awwwww.
Solar, wind, biodiesel: All are part of the mix. As is conservation.
There are 100 ways to get energy besides carbon-based fuels.
But someone has to be willing to say “yes.”
OT,
Did anyone see 30 Days? Peta people change a deer hunter in a very teary 30 days.
geothermal energy should be expanded as well.
You forget, this is wingnut heaven now. The sun rises and sets out of Bobby Jindal’s ass. And he thinks Bush hung the moon.
Just yesterday there was an article in the paper analizing why carpooling won’t take off here. I live on the Northshore, lots of people commute to NOLA daily. As I sat at a light yesterday evening headed to work I watched the traffic coming off the Causeway from the city. Every vehicle had one person in it, and the vast majority were large, gas sucking SUV’s. Oil is a big thing here, they really don’t care that they are threatening their very survival. Doesn’t fit the lizard brain mentality.
We have a small pilot project here in the isles, too… The place it’s really taken off is in the Bay of Fundy which has the largest tidal changes in the world…!
Chocolate donuts?
That is excellent news about the new chair! You guys are gonna have so much fun on your trip!
ola pups
interesting take down of republican talking points regarding drilling in ANWAR
Obama will! Yes, we can.
I want to always take luggage on board, to avoid misplaced suitcases…we often leave airports far from the destination arrival.
I think he and Al Gore have struck the deal, and yes may be right around the corner.
Oh, thank goodness, treats!
I know what you mean. Have you figured out the art of traveling for a couple of weeks with one suitcase? I haven’t, but I guess I could learn to like ironing.
I should have been more clear…I meant the drilling off the coast of Florida, where tourism is their bread and butter. I don’t see Florida, a crucial electoral state, caving to the Pukes who would endanger the quality of their water….and the view….not even for jobs.
Louisiana is another story as you have described. Same for TX.
I’ll trade you for Tollhouse Cookies I made yesterday.
I was secretly hoping for an Obama/Gore ticket announcement last night. Don’t blame Gore though, for not wanting to have a boss.
Cookies for squash??? Cool! You can even have the rest of the milk. :)
Squash cookies? gag
I don’t travel with carry on. If I can’t take it with me, I’m not going. You’d be amazed at how little you need.
fingers crossed.
Yeah – been there…
But there is something cooking. I wouldn’t expect Al to have a free hand, but he’ll probably start the national effort. It’s a good start.
Two words: Mass transit. It is the only hope for all of our urban areas.
Re: ANWR, Coastal drilling:
Uh, please educated ‘ol Bong (and try to be kind)
s’okay fer them oil producing countries, like Saudi Arabia, terrorist producer, to pound their ground (so to speak) to provide the sacred fuel for our (the U.S.) “need”? Sand and all, I know. BUT, we’re not getting to sustainable alternatives overnight.
I’m all for renewable energy, but in the mean time, you gotta put gas in your Prius, or in my case, F-150 (occupational hazard).
ANWR? I say yes… Carefully.
I know it’s not an instant cure, but does anyone else have a realistic alternative?
Be nice.
;~P
This FISA stuff makes me sick. The house and senate just couldn’t put together the vertebrae. There goes the opportunity to gather evidence about these bastards and immunity now to be used as rocks for all these insects to get under.
Why can’t Obama flex on this? The political tightrope? I am still calling like crazy tonight and popping off.
OT but why when I so often turned on CSpan (now my tv blew… radio bound till replace) was Jeff Sessions always popping off his patriotic crap. How many times does that guy get the mike? I heard on the Newshour his defending torture in the name of the troops.
Time for Gore to say more about this offshore drilling? Long term goals for the earth vs. myopic greed for the profiteers and short term goals, hang posterity.
Yer a nut! : )
I found Gore’s body language to be lukewarm. Liked his speech except where he kissed McCain’s butt…didn’t like that part..it made me uncomfortable. I’ve seen him more animated…I don’t know what to think about that.
These are way better than donuts.
the earliest estimate i remember is that if anwar drilling was approved today, it would be at least 10 years before the first drop of oil arrived in the lower 48.
I feel yer F150. Stuck with one meself.
Thanks for prior thread validation! Feeling is mutual, BTW!
They’re going crazy on Camp Pendleton with the bombs…creeps me out.
Hiya Loo Hoo!
Yes, I have figured out the art of traveling for weeks with one suitcase.
#1: travel in black and white, pants, skirts, and cotton shirts.
#2: use silk scarves for color — they pack well and keep you warm.
#3: always travel with various kinds of shoes, from sandals to clogs (cobblestones are treacherous).
#4:Never, never take more than one suitcase.
It’s rare to see Al stumping for candidates – different kind of advocacy. I agree – less fire than his environmental and anti-war speeches.
He’ll be fine.
As of my last fill ($81.00) 3.81 Miles Per Dollar
Good thing it’s only ’bout 9 miles to work.
Since Katrina we barely have city bus service in Orleans. It’s a bit better in Jefferson Parish, but not much. And other than a few private companies that do van service, there’s nothing for commuters from the Northshore to the Southshore.
So let’s just wait for something else?
T. Boone Pickens had an earlier arrival for wind if gubmint declares an emergency. Course, he’s invested. Said as much today. So if we line his pockets, mebbe less than 10 years?
no, we work on stuff that we can produce results with now. solar, wind, hydro.
I am going to try to do that and jam everything else into the backpack, but I have 2 different medical devices, and they won’t let me wear wires on board. Camera, laptop, assorted chargers, my book for the plane, ice packs (though I may do ziplocs and get the airline to give me ice). If I could bring the magic mattress I would!
Mmmmm…the thing to remember is that the artificially inflated oil prices right now have to do with gambling…also, remember that the Bush family and related oil cronies are all in bed with the Saudis. It is a money-making machine for them. We are not only at the mercy of the Saudis, we are at the mercy of our very own oilmen administration. They are all oil people. They are the really big problem.
The oil in ANWR wouldn’t yield anything for something like 10 years. All of this talk about building more refineries…yadda, yadda…is Bushco hype and pressure. Instead, they could uncap the oil they capped back in the 70’s while we pursue alternative energy sources.
The real problems are that speculators need to be regulated, and the dollar needs to come up in value, because people in this country are hoarding oil reserves…waiting to release when the dollar is higher in value, so that they can make money.
We are being sandbagged….literally.
The speech itself was more go-to than his usual stuff. I thought maybe his people got with Obama’s people on it.
I agree. It could have been hotter, for sure.
NO is ripe for light rail, particularly since the city already has so much rebuilding. I really hope that Obama gets behind federal assistance for municipal mass transit systems. It would do much to solve so many different problems we face.
Clothes are easy —- steal from my sister! Scarves from step-mom.
And gas would be 10 cents per gallon less. Where’s the cents sign on my keyboard?
I feel for you Betsy. Even though I prefer air travel to driving, I haven’t flown in ages. I do not want to even think about dealing with all the BS rules now. Grrr!
Stuck?
Not me. It’s a 1998 Extended cab, 170,000 original miles, paid for, one battery, one alternator, one rear-end, countless oil changes (on schedule), third set of tires, seat fits my ass just right.
;~P
good link on anwar production here
Ooooh! Pretty donuts!
Sounds good. Staying with the black and white is a good idea. Two pair of shoes then too!
I have to get better at this packing stuff. What if you needed the teal sweater? jk
The other problem is that the reserves in ANWAR, despite Gooper heavy breathing, are really quite limited and would have little long term impact. As the article linked to above by wobs points out the oil companies already have 10s of million of acres of federal land under oil leases, but which they are not drilling.
Oh, gosh, Betsy,
This so applies to able-bodied travelers, and not wheelchair-bound. I CAN’T imagine how hard it is for you to travel, so difficult. And, take all our needed technology along with our medical devices. You need a lover to help you travel, yes? (I wish I was joking?)
Hugs, Chris
Actually, if we could get law(s) passed that require ALL the electric companies to purchase power from wind farms that are up now, and ones that are waiting to be built as soon as they can get a contract to sell the stuff…
Here in Montana we have a huge new wind farm at Judith Gap and the investors want to expand it – have the land all lined up, and are ready to go – but NorthWestern Power refuses to buy the electricity. They’d rather get it from their buds I don’t know where instead of right here. Claim it would cost too much to “integrate” it into the grid.
Oh, they are already integrating the power from the first phase.???
what didja bring for everyone else? thanks tex
I have the kids on the way up, and I am on my own coming home, but NOT flying through Chicago, which makes things more manageable. The only time I traveled on crutches instead of a wheelchair was an absolute nightmare. But they do take care of you when you;re in a chair.
Bush is after Alaska.
McCain.. off shore drilling, not yet Alaska?
Obama… alternate means…
Long term alternate means to be developed. HMMMMMM. Do you see angry gas-price eyes all over America seriously considering long-term alternate plans????
The same people after 9/11 who wanted non-Americans killed ASAP… which non-Americans … not so attentive about that part of it.
People not so good about global and legacy-destroying inconvenient truths. The shortest, easist way.. hang the long term impact. Hang reality. Short term fix.
In terms of impatient lemmings… McCain can talk that talk…. and lead the way. Better than Obama.
Option-4, Loo Hoo.
i hope we could get legislation that electrical appliances have to actually turn off when turned off instead of going into standby mode.
Be sure the laptop is out of the container. Got called on putting the laptop in the case through security and had a 30 minute delay plus a tonguelashing.
The Blackfeet also have a wind farm and are hoping to expand. God knows they would finally get some good out those god awful winds howling through Browning.
out of the backpack?
I do take a sweater and a raincoat every place. Sometimes it is black, sometimes yellow. Hello teal!
quoted wrong part wrt ANWAR
New refineries. There are a couple of reasons for no new refineries.
One: Cost. There is actually one being proposed for New Mexico. The construction cost is currently estimated to be in the $4 billion range.
Two: Peak oil. T. Boone Pickens is the oil-man’s oilman. He started divesting his company of oil stocks about three years ago. And he’s been telling anyone who will listen that it’s time to get off oil and sooner rather than later. It doesn’t make sense to spend $4 billion to build a new refinery and take 5 years to do it – and then in 5 years it will be shut down because you can’t get any more oil.
*must be invisible*
Thank all of you for being so patient with my sometimes rickety synapses… Got a few still firing, once and again. Good information, wobbs, to sleep on.
Pleasant dreams, all.
;~P
i thought i remembered it as 10 years.. thanks for the verification wobbly
g’nite dr bong
OT but politics as usual in Louisiana-William Jefferson has announced he will run again for his Congressional seat.
The latest NOAA report says the levees are still very vulnerable to a Cat 2 or stronger storm this hurricane season. It rained hard yesterday and flooded many streets in Jefferson Parish.
Is there a ghost at the lake?
no (pause) for me?
a shame on our nation!
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Whoo Hoo! Thank¢¢¢, Newt¢n¢sr!
…or is that reserved for Dr. (pause) Dick?
could very well be. this info is just regarding production in ANWAR and refutes the larger numbers the republicans were throwing around
bong is not a dr dick
Yes, out.
Be prepared to get almost naked. Take your laptop out, all outer clothing off, shoes off, out of the wheelchair, quart-sized baggie with all liquids and gels under 4 ounces, and on…
Sorry! Had to step away and fix dinner for me and mine. Now have to eat it; I’ll probably see you all for Late Late, but you’re doing fine, right?
As Judy Garland said at Carnegie Hall, “Talk amongst yourselves….”
and laptop case.
“The opening of ANWR to development in 2005 results in the initiation of ANWR oil production in 2015.”
That is 10 years. You remember correctly. It has not opened to development yet…and we are in 2008.
I really like Al Gore’s proposal for an ‘electro-net’ where there are lots and lots of small producers of alternate energy that power a house or a business and sell the excess into the grid for those who don’t have a solar panel yet or whatever.
California has a grid-power-buying law so if you have a windmill or a solar panel that makes more than you use, the power company has to buy it from you. (Nice to have the meter running backwards!)
Lots of people would get solar panels if they still had the incentives – they are much less cumbersome, some even look like regular roofing shingles now. Just need more education (like in Montana – you can power your house with solar – even in the winter when the clouds are out!) and some incentives to get started.
Take back the $87 billion present we gave the oil companies in 2005 and spend it helping homeowners put up solar panels or windmills or both!
don’t think so *g*
Night, Dr.Bong.
Evenin’ all !
Non- spoiler alert … Neal Katyal on Colbert.
There’s a story behind the pause, but I don’t know it.
Like I could stand up and hold ANY of that?! Geez!
Borrowing toothpaste and shampoo from the folks. Can Texteen bring his awful disgusting-smelling can of deodorant? Or just stick? Is lip gloss a liquid? Cassie has about 20.
Hey, Mi Amigo! How’s the great white north? ;-)
the tv show cybil. maryanne’s ex husband was dr richard and she referred to him as doc-tor (pause) dick and dick was almost spit out
I assume “outer clothing” is jackets and not shirts, right?
eh?
where are you all off to?
you are a punctu-editor
Require all new buildings to take solar orientation into account when siting.
Increase the requirements for insulation and window tinting.
Subsidize the solar and wind people the way we have been subsidizing the oil companies (and still are for crying out loud!)
There are lots of ways that we could get a lont of alternate energy up and running fairly quickly. And solar panels are a lot like TV’s. When they first came out they were bulky and expensive. Now, not so much. In the future even smaller and cheaper. You know the drill.
Don’t ask … almost had to turn on the furnace tonight … about 45 right now … luckily, ah have a wee dram o’ Highland Nectar … *g*
They pulled my husband’s sweater off him like a criminal. It was because he had a moneybelt on that had a metal buckle.
Brrrrrrrr.
We hit 100 on my thermometer today.
Up here, conservation can reduce power consumption by about 20% – the cheapest and quickest way to wean ourselves off oil/coal/nuclear …
Tell em about it, a few days ago, we hit 100 as well …
92 in the shade at the creek today and hotter tomorrow :(
“me”, not “em” … putting down glass …
NJ and NY
Family, old friends, and first time to meet the northeast firepups!
I know the feeling. Fortunately summer has finally arrived here in western Montana and we got into the 80s today. About freaking time.
And the TSA has badges now! Much to the consternation of real law enforcement.
This is not sweater month here in central texas.
Gong
cool. hope you all have a blast. i have to pull out the suitcases soon. mr and i are headed south to visit the family and relax
donut for the computer geeks
As I recall the weather in that part of the country, it is more like a get as naked as the law and your sense of decency will allow month.
Heh, We had to fire up my parents’ faux fireplace it got down to 58…! ;-)
I am way late to the thread, my apologies for not reading al the comments.
Did I see what I thought I saw earlier today?
Teddy “San Fran” Partridge?
Congratulations?
You little devil, you.
Right on my man.
*clink* … a toast then … to summer, wherever it be …
At noon. In the fucking shade.
The City of Berkeley (I know – crazy, right?) has a loan program where homeowners can buy solar systems that enable them to sell into the grid. The loan payback is pegged to the systems’ payout into the grid — so there’s no real investment required.
I know -crazy, right?
Would you read that to mean that if we bought the tickets in April, we can bring two suitcases each?
Best of luck, Betsy. I’m an east coaster, from Wilmington, DE, and Chadds Ford,PA. I am an east coast snob who loves Clevland, MISSES the SEA.
Has to fit in a quart zip lock sized bag. They’ll make you throw away anything over 2 (3)? ounces. Check online.
Crazy like a fox. They have similar programs in Europe.
Conserving, particularly when it’s cheap, means Osama wins.
Damn Berkeley!
Nice if I could spell Cleveland…
Thanks! Always wondered.
Peace out, Rocco.
In reference to the “Don’t reinvent the wheel” post earlier – a lot of states could do well to emulate California policies. They actually use less electricity per capita than any other state in the union.
They have the electric buy-back, they also incentivize the power companies to figure out ways to help the consumer conserve – and it doesn’t hurt their bottom line so they actually do it. There are state tax incentives for solar and wind installations.
Most communities have solar ordinances requiring siting and tree-planting and a bunch of other stuff for any new buildings. And they have been doing this stuff for a couple of decades now.
So it can be done – and it does NOT hurt the economy like the Rethugs keep saying.
A beaut from Muckraker, tracing the timeline of that canard Cheney tried to spread about China drilling for oil off Cuba. Starting possibly from a hypothetical musing in one article, through a sudden spate of LTE in smaller regional papers, …
I thought it was called the People’s Republic of Berkeley…! ;-)
(((Cheers, Petrocelli!)))
We’re barely legal here today, but have not availed ourselves of our new rights.
Now, I suppose, we are living in sin.
*g*
Here is the cake-topper cbl2 recommended earlier today, a little badger and a stout bear.
Yeah, my place is all dried up and brown and crunchy and the ground is cracked…sigh…the fireants are all pissed off…I do see some rain on radar right now up northwest of here…heading this way…I hope it holds together.
We need rain badly. My Native Americann friend is doing a rain dance tomorrow..heh. I told her…don’t dance too much, we don’t need a flood…!
No dice on that link, wdd
Actually helps, as a number of European countries have discovered.
Oh, for the love of gladys.
((((( Loo Hoo )))))
It’s a great night for spicy food and Single Malt …
Right on, Teddy! Btw, who gives up the last name…? ;-)
That’s what caught my attention, those are so cool!
Get with it!
that is poifect, teddy
That makes SENSE. Hard to believe…only in Berkely. Hope Obama is schooled on this.
The one thing lacking is political will … as Gore said, elections do matter …
That caught my eye, too. Such a friendly word, “friendly”. Environmentally friendly. A vague and soothing sense of “truthiness”…
I hear Professor Gore is offering a summer crash course …
No. You’ll be able to carry one on, and pay for the other. Don’t try to sneak a purse on along with a laptop bag either!
Weather chanel promised a reprieve, never showed up. I spend teh water. Still not getting tomatoes.
This looks way too good.
hannibal, you sure know what to bring for dessert! wow, thanks (drool drool)
Damn. Old age is a motherfucker.
Fuckers…WTF is this…they are rehearsing “military” stuff over the DNC convention site:
http://rawstory.com/news08/200…..ret-drill/
But I just found the ticket! We bought it in March! Purse counts as a second bag?
**pout pout**
you ain’t old!
I try to change the weather channel, but something is wrong because the weather stays the same.
That site has to be one of the best ever for recipes. Though lately they’ve focused more on various restaurants in New Orleans.
You don’t think Dubya is planning to pull a Mugabe do you?
My Granny used to tell me that if she knew how much it hurt to get old, she’d a never done it.
Ha…… ha. . Now I know.
Debatable.
I welcome the silver hair.
That should be Obama’s first move. Venture capital gets marching orders tax credits and grants and carbon credits. Hot Hot Hot
Have they done anything on K-Paul’s?
Dang. I rarely eat sweets, but that looks really yummy tonight.
100?
I don’t welcome it, but it comes in anyway. I just accept it.
You’re not old. What are you talking about?
We’re dying Texteen’s hair blue tomorrow morning. Made him wait till after the wedding.
Nothing would surprise me. Nothing.
Ya hear that Teddy?
Lol!
So Mike Meyers didn’t invent that line, huh?
so doodle, now that we made you get a google talk account, how come you ain’t logged in?
Give me my silver. I’ve earned it!
Right. Can they please explicky this?:
Not that I remember, Cochon, Domillise’s Po-Boy & Bar, and Galitoire’s are three recent ones they did.
Oh, I earned it, but that doesn’t mean I really want it.
I raised a teen once. Ignore the hair. They’ll turn out OK.
Yeah, Denver is really high on the list of terrorist targets alright. Right before the Amish popcorn factory and that donkey train place.
It wasn’t his wedding!
; )
Now…why would the Repubs expect the Democratic Convention which is fired-up to get rid of “them”…”draw thousands of protesters as did the 2004 party conventions in Boston and New York.”
Why? Who would be the thousands of protesters? Protesting getting rid of the Pukes? I don’t think so….they would have to be Pukes protesting…per Limbaugh.
This is absurd.
Now that is progressive
Oh I do! Any color he wants, but not for major family events.
Austin TX has the same
He turned out to be really good kid.
Paul Prudhomme was married to K Heinrichs, my second cousin. She passed away a couple of years ago. Anyway – he would come and cook for all of us at all our huge family get-togethers, talk about your super-food picnics and receptions etc!
Sounds like they’re just preparing for a potential security threat. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the same preparations were being made in St. Paul.
claimed zed upstairs
I was teasing Teddy.
He’s a great guy.
Posse Comeandgetus
There are plenty of red-blooded Americans who think the DeeCee Democrats have shamed themselves over the past two years. Many of them will be protesting the gathering in Denver. Just because we have a transcendental change agent at the top of the ticket is not reason to excuse the sorry First Branch governing we’ve been subjected to by Speaker Pelosi and Leader Reid.
They deserve all the protesting they get, in my view. And more!
No, there they are trying to get regular citizens to go to ‘vegan meetings’ to find out what the Dems are up to – possibly disrupting the Rethugs plans…..
Especially with the counter-event the Paulites are planning at the same time!
You get his recipe for Gumbo?
I’m off to bed. Take care all.
I wish!!!
my fav bullshit line from the story
“It’s routine preparation for the global war on terrorism”
He’d say “K is in charge of the recipes” and she would say “What is he talking about – he’s the cook!”
Spellcheck says posse cunnilingus.
crap
I got a decent, inexpensive not-too-big suitcase at Office Depot or Staples – no need to fuss with memberships.
Issa: Tim Russert would have wanted more domestic oil drilling
what. an. ass.
K-Paul’s was one of the first restaurants to re-open after Katrina. Paul said he had to do it so all his employees would have a job so they would have money to live on. Mostly no customers for the first three months – but he paid them all anyway – and gave the wait staff extra to compensate for no tips. He’s pretty special.
Too bad you aren’t closer. The people across the street have been throwing suitcases in the dumpster. Day before yesterday there were four of them in there – one was a really nice looking one.
I got one out of there a couple months ago. It has one little corner that was un-sewed – but it’s a really nice one with all the best pockets and it zips out bigger, has great wheels and a thing that pulls out to balance it when you stop.
Oh well…sigh
Tow-away zone. Hope the dems have their rooms lined up. I know our CA-49 gal is ready to go…she’s so excited!
Florida would likely lose almost half the State if sea levels rise 1 meter. Ironic that McBush calls on Florida to “sacrifice” to increasing the wealth of the oil companies and to cause their own demise.