In the wake of the Supreme Court’s Boumediene ruling on Habeas Corpus rights for GITMO detainees:
John McCain … calls the ruling “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.”
Yes, it’s right up there with Dred Scott, with Lochner, with Plessy v. Ferguson (known to McCain’s legal advisers as approving the doctrine of "Separate but AWESOME".
And what is so damned terrible, it provides access to American courts for those held in American prisons when swept up in other countries. And at the same time McCain and others are railing and going bats**t crazy [so default setting] this was appearing from the only news service that seems to practice journalism:
Akhtiar was among the more than 770 terrorism suspects imprisoned at the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. They are the men the Bush administration described as "the worst of the worst."
But Akhtiar was no terrorist. American troops had dragged him out of his Afghanistan home in 2003 and held him in Guantanamo for three years in the belief that he was an insurgent involved in rocket attacks on U.S. forces. The Islamic radicals in Guantanamo’s Camp Four who hissed "infidel" and spat at Akhtiar, however, knew something his captors didn’t: The U.S. government had the wrong guy.
"He was not an enemy of the government, he was a friend of the government," a senior Afghan intelligence officer told McClatchy. Akhtiar was imprisoned at Guantanamo on the basis of false information that local anti-government insurgents fed to U.S. troops, he said.
An eight-month McClatchy investigation in 11 countries on three continents has found that Akhtiar was one of dozens of men — and, according to several officials, perhaps hundreds — whom the U.S. has wrongfully imprisoned in Afghanistan, Cuba and elsewhere on the basis of flimsy or fabricated evidence, old personal scores or bounty payments.
McClatchy interviewed 66 released detainees, more than a dozen local officials — primarily in Afghanistan — and U.S. officials with intimate knowledge of the detention program. The investigation also reviewed thousands of pages of U.S. military tribunal documents and other records.
This unprecedented compilation shows that most of the 66 were low-level Taliban grunts, innocent Afghan villagers or ordinary criminals. At least seven had been working for the U.S.-backed Afghan government and had no ties to militants, according to Afghan local officials. In effect, many of the detainees posed no danger to the United States or its allies.
The investigation also found that despite the uncertainty about whom they were holding, U.S. soldiers beat and abused many prisoners.
Prisoner mistreatment became a regular feature in cellblocks and interrogation rooms at Bagram and Kandahar air bases, the two main way stations in Afghanistan en route to Guantanamo.
While he was held at Afghanistan’s Bagram Air Base, Akhtiar said, "When I had a dispute with the interrogator, when I asked, ‘What is my crime?’ the soldiers who took me back to my cell would throw me down the stairs."
The McClatchy reporting also documented how U.S. detention policies fueled support for extremist Islamist groups. For some detainees who went home far more militant than when they arrived, Guantanamo became a school for jihad, or Islamic holy war.
But for GITMO prisioners like Akhtiar, the only hope of their release is the beneficence of John McCain. How many more of those like him are held (and abused) in GITMO [and other places], deprived of review by a judge of release? And John McCain would love to keep it that way.
…because the Bush administration set up Guantanamo under special rules that allowed indefinite detention without charges or federal court challenge, it’s impossible to know how many of the 770 men who’ve been held there were terrorists.
Thanks to the Supreme Court’s ruling we may now actually have the ability to figure out what our government is doing in our name. Not that this matters to those who have perpetrated the detentions.
The mantra of today’s GOP — never do the right thing…when you can do the RIGHT thing.
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greetings in the wee hours, Attaturk! My favorite incoherent bloviation over the habeas ruling was Gingrich. Hmmm. interesting, I went to find a link and it turns out that “wait till we lose a city” is a favorite quote of his. Speaking of nutcakes…wonder where he would have gotten that idea?
Well, I definitely need to go back to quote school. Make it cost a city and nut-cases. Here is the quote:
okay so let me get this straight five lawyers (aka supreme court justices) count more than what?! Newtie, you mean 5 like the 5 lawyers that installed the worst president evah? and risk losing a city? how about risk losing our constitutional democracy altogether? sheesh. Don’t these guys even bother to read the Constitution??
Don’t these guys even bother to read the Constitution??
Why would they read the Constitution? It is pretty clear from his comments that scalia doesn’t consider the Constitution to be very important.
Mr.Cbl
Good morning Attaturk. Thanks for another solid post.
Guantanamo means the Republicans have ”covered their a**”, nothing more.
It’s been 2470 days of Republican failure since 9/11.
So, Habeas Corpus, it is not that important.
Have you not heard the devastating news? A village idiot has died. Not just any idiot, but the most important, unforgettable, village idiot who always knew what we should think. In fact the clown cars of Dee Cee are full of sad people, who are wondering how they can carry on. What idiot could ever replace him, let alone fill his large shoes. I think only one idiot can, “Mornin Joe”.
War on terra … mushroom cloud … activist lawyers/judges … How many dog-whistles in that statement of Gingrich’s? These guys are cult, not a political party.
Good morning, pups. It’s Kristol, Cohen and Krugman today. Kristol wrote about “Big Tim,” and said Tim enjoyed being a big shot. But he was just about the nicest big shot in Washington — decent and unpretentious, remarkably kind and thoughtful. Mr. Cohen wrote “In Praise of Being Cut Off,” and says content for platforms does not make a story. Today, you arrive anywhere and surf the Net. Being “always on” is being always off, to something. Mr. Krugman wrote about a “Fiscal Poison Pill.” He says he realized that the tax cuts enacted by the Bush administration are, in effect, a fiscal poison pill aimed at future administrations.
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
The coffee and tea are ready, and the biscuits are out of the oven. We finally got rain yesterday, a rollicking thunderstorm followed by a good soaking, and my
lawnexpanse of weeds seems less brown and crispy. Have a good day.th5s decision absolutely must be discussed in terms most people understand for I have found even democrats are repeating republican talking points regarding this decision
we cannot simply use “restore habeas courpus” most people have no clue what that means
instead we need to challenge THEM and their faimily;
“you mean, if a criminal using the cover of their office wants to put you out of business because you compete with their business, all they have to do is call you a terrorist, arrest you with absolutely no reason, and you do not believe you or your son has the right to prove you have been framed?”
“suppose one of these criminals raped your daughter and you are going to have them arrested, all they have to do is call you a terrorist, have you jailed and you can never show that they framed you to prevent you from exposing their crime?”
“you are saying if you are abroad and someone doesn’t like the fact that you are not a muslim, they can tell an official you are a terrorist, you will be arrested because you are christian or jewish, and you can never prove that you are not a terrorist?”
“is that what you are saying?”
I have just recently shut down some pretty adament supporters of the president with those questions
Good moning everyone.
Law, smaw. It’s so yesterday. /snark
The Rs have been such a failure, it looks like the Gitmo prisoners are their only scapegoats left.
I’d like to take this time to point out to Newty that when Katrina happened habeas corpus was not available to detainees down in GITMO and we still had a government who did not protect our fellow Americans! Hell, they couldn’t even send in some boats for crying out loud.
And let’s not forget Newty….the biggest attack on America happened under George Bush’s watch! We are not safe with republics in charge.
And to make us feel better, here’s a video of Barack Obama talking in a DC black church yesterday (not Trinity):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj1hCDjwG6M
(the video is @ 24 minutes long)
Here’s the NYTs article on it if you can’t play videos…
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06…..ref=slogin
Good morning to everyone. I hope the Fathers here at FDL had a wonderful relaxing day yesterday. ;-)
The other philosophical question is:
If you don’t trust the government with your health, do you want to trust it with your liberty?
Ok What Part of “With Liberty and Justice for all ” does McCain have a problem with? Last I checked the Pledge of Allegiance didn’t say with Liberty and justice, Just For Us…or has Bush changed the Pledge?
We need the MSM to ask McCain a few simple questions Does McCain think every School kid should say the Pledge of Allegiance? Does McCain believe in the Pledge of Allegiance or is it just a myth for school kids?
Either everyone has rights or nobody has rights, whats that story about the minister in Nazi Germany who when they came for the Commies they said nothing because they weren’t Commies, When they came for the Jew they said nothing because they weren’t Jews.
BUT WHEN THEY FINALLY CAME FOR ME THERE WAS NOBODY LEFT TO SAY ANYTHING!
“Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it endlessly ” George Santanya
Morning, eCAHN – getting any rain this morning down where you are – it’s raining HERE.
Cloudy but no rain. Scattered showers in the forecast, which is good for the trees I’ve planted & those I bought Saturday & still have to plant.
In favt, I’m off before it gets too hot. Catch up later.
Matalin on Imus this morning, in the process of reminiscing about Russert says how great NBC has been to everybody who has been grieving this shocking loss, including ”the little people, the interns,…”
Little people.
A thoughtless crass description for all the workers and staff who are part of the team making the front face look good.
S’pose that’s the mindset she brought to the WHIG table, too? Ya think?
You think Morin Joe is going to get the Nod for Pumpkinhead’s job, but Tweety and Miss Greenspan have spent years attacking Hilary doesn’t hard work mean anything anymore?
I was going to add a line about Joe being picked because he’s younger and better looking but I just couldn’t write it.
Lieberman up now on Imus. “You’re like my therapist…”
Lieberman has a therapist? Whazzup with that?
That’s sort of a creepy thought, that.
And may I add, my contempt for the contemptible Joe Lieberman is deeper than the Ph-challenged depths of the deepest ocean canyon….
Examining the list of options is a good indicator of the garbage pile from which MSNBC has to choose a replacement.
Tangentially on topic…
I read something interesting about Justice Kennedy this past weekend. On page 87 of the June 7th print edition of The Economist was this article about a UN commission on the legal empowerment of the poor. The report concluded
Among the folks on the committee that produced this report was none other than
Perhaps some of that rubbed off on him? We can hope.
Isn’t that the Republican way? CYA?
scarecrow’s upstairs
Thanks for a great post, Attaturk.
The McClatchy investigations really drive home just how utterly incompetent the Bushies are. Seven years, over a million lives, millions of refuges trillions of dollars and it looks as though they have managed to capture only a small handful of folks who had anything at all to do with what happened on 9/11. Instead, their blind, unfocused rage has built a much larger number of much more hate-fueled enemies. This damage will take generations to undo.
Morning Attuturk an all,
What other civilized country beside the USA and Israel uses B-1 bombers ,Cluster bombs ,predatory drones ,rendition and use heavy armor on a regular basis and has a stockpile of weapons of mass destruction . We act as the moral arbitrator of the world on what basis? Depleted Uranium ,did I mention phosphorus, how ’bout water torture,…….
I hope everyone comes back to get this link
it reports the abuses of imprisonement withut habeas protection, it is exactly what I extrapolated would be happeing;
bingo
and progressives need to get on board with this;
“people are being arrested to settle old scores, to put a competitor out of business or to solve religious issues and without habeas protection those people framed will never be allowed to prove they were framed…and framed by a terrorist himself who will get off to commit more acts of terrorism because his depravity is not exposed”
ok, that’s too verbose but you get the idea
I know I’m still off topic but this is from that link;
see that?
inspite of the fact that they had no clue what so ever if these people were enemies OR FRIENDS of this country
The meme (if that’s the right term) for these idiots who don’t think habeus corpus is important should be “Why are you afraid to be a real American?”
As things stood until that Supreme Court decision, any one of us could be locked up forever by the President without ever learning what we were charged with. THAT is un-American.
…and those the McClatchy researchers found to be a danger to the U.S. forces? They were only a danger because the U.S. had invaded Afghanistan without cause nor even direct approval from Congress. For whatever reason the U.S. invaded Afghanistan, they could not be expected a warm reception by everyone. Who are the U.S.’s allies in Afghanistan? Drug smugglers, warlords, and politicians bought and paid for, one and all. Hot dog!
Americans are the war criminal for allowing this to happen and for doing nothing to prevent it. Americans think nothing of the atrocities their government has committed in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, and Iraq over the past six years or so. That’s not the case for people affected by these atrocities.
Just because an Afghani is deemed a “radical” by the U.S. or McClatchy, doesn’t mean this person is not an aggrieved party any less deserving of fair treatment.
I’m still waiting for the fairness to enter into the sphere of the White House, where arrests and trials of the war criminals currently taking up space there have yet to happen.
Why does Bush get credit for “keeping us safe” when we “lost a city” on his watch?
PS Totally loved the green screen modifications as well as the post. awesome.