In an editorial with the uplifting title A Partnership with Iraq, the WaPo makes a series of claims that are astonishing even given the source. After announcing that Iraqi Shiites want the deal (perhaps the WaPo editorial board needs a few lessons in Iraqi politics given their equation of “Shiites” with the puppet government?) they launch into an attack on Democrats who oppose it:
So it’s hard to fathom why Democrats in Congress have joined Ayatollah Khamenei in denouncing the U.S.-Iraqi agreements even before they are written. Critics such as Sen. James Webb (D-Va.) are professing to be outraged that the Bush administration might be forging a relationship with Iraq "that parallels the Korea-Japan history," as Mr. Webb put it. They claim to be shocked by the suggestions of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) that U.S. forces might remain in Iraq for decades without controversy if they did not suffer casualties, as has happened in Japan and South Korea. Yet the U.S. alliances with Japan and South Korea have been among the most successful in this nation’s history. While building a similar bond with Iraq may prove impossible, it’s hard to understand why Democrats would oppose it in principle.
Note bene the smear approach where our representatives who are demanding scuttling the SOFA are equated with the leading Iranian Ayatollah and the warm support for McCain’s 100 Years in Iraq gambit. The editorial continues in the same vein – arguing that the SOFA is all that will protect us from increased Iranian power in the Middle East.
While the villager’s local rag touts such nonsense, the Boston Globe thankfully talks sense:
President Bush has been treating Iraq less as an ally than a vassal. He has been pushing Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to accept two long-term agreements that would, as many Iraqis rightly object, compromise Iraq’s sovereignty and independence.
… Though Bush speaks of Iraq as a free, democratic ally, the original versions gave the United States privileges in Iraq more suitable to the relationship between a colonial power and its protectorate.
The contents of the agreements were not cast in the form of a treaty because a treaty would have to be ratified by the US Senate. Bush plainly does not want senators asking troublesome questions about the implications of an open-ended Iraqi approval for 58 American military bases on Iraqi soil.
Emailing our representatives a copy of the Globe’s editorial would be a great way to remind our representatives that while their Village paper may support colonialism, there’s a very different view outside the beltway.
And of course, the view from Iraq is even clearer. Residents of Amara are spending this weekend stocking up on water and food as they watch US and GZG forces march into their area in yet another of Maliki’s attacks on “criminals” who always seem to be members of the Sadrist opposition. Having lost to the Sadrist forces in Basra and Sadr City, perhaps he hopes that third times a charm?
Video from Japan’s NicoVideo.
Update: Don’t miss the new TomDispatch on permanent bases – it’s a must read and a good piece to send to your representatives.
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Siun!
Jus Cogens!
Irak is for the Irakis. Not the American empire.
Shadiya
What? Iraq the Kosovo model? That would assume sovereignty.
now to read.
Good evening, Siun
Good evening and welcome Shadiya.
it’s hard to understand why Democrats would oppose it in principle.
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry…
lol, only on the vid, but, wtf, iraqi gunna greet parris with flowers or stones?
Shadiya, I was just looking at the report published at GorillasGuides on the horrifying statistics about babies born with problems from depleted uranium.
Thank you and the team for keeping us aware of these things.
Golf courses! Madonna! Wendy’s! Gambling!
I’m SHOCK DOCTRINED.
My home town :-(
Let’s all Digg this post!
Shadiya, it’s such sad news. Do you believe that the problems are caused by the assaults on your town over the past 5 years?
you know, i do feel feel bad about parris and britney. Only because they are played by consumer culture.
This guy on the right, in the vid, is truly funny. Pure snark? :)
As the article says these cancers, malformities, premature births, (and deaths) have all happened since then it seems very clear to me that they must be linked.
I can’t read that. Is it DU related? Do you have a translation?
now there is an interesting concept
jo fish had an incredible post earlier today and he renumerates a host of bush quotes, the one most on point was;
seems to me they have rescinded that supposed invitation had it ever existed
Thank you for the added information. It seems your home town has been so sadly harmed over and over by our forces.
I heard someone call my name, how did you know britney was harassing me?
Changes happening to food rationing system
You can donate to the International Red Cross, Red Crescent here
Siun, your post sounds like dubi without the religion. Is that really what Bush is after?
Aloha, Siun! Another superb post!
Yes … new reports point to many babies born with deformities and problems in areas like Fallujah.
The figures look to be “”a minimum of 4-5 newborns buried each week” with congenital deformities”
Is that a breach of treaty, another example of unitary rule?
And two new cases a day in the hospital of malformed babys.
This GG article about birth deformities in English
And this GG article in English about depleted uranium causing cancers in Basra.
And, for those keeping track, use of white phosphorus is a war crime. (cf: our acts of abomination in Fallujah).
both. and then get angry.
The lack of reporting on the war crimes we are committing is so shameful. It’s up to us to keep speaking about it and reminding congress that we know what is going on.
What irks me recently is the fact that many of the court martials that have been conducted have either found them not guilty, or, they’re given short sentences when they are…!
OMFG!!
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/det…..38773.html
Of course they are related.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..728/536258
How can it be that we are led by the nose by maybe 10 people. How stupid are we?
We are 300,000,000 strong, and we have to allow ourselves to be led by these criminals…
When is this going to stop.
How do we stop this travesty????
How? This is insane.
Actually, I need to correct myself. White phospherous is not outlawed, although these images strongly suggest it ought to be (warning: v. graphic)
Then, Mr. Hiatt, fathom the fact that our presence in Iraq costs us $12B/month up front, and five times that much in the long term, when interest on that borrowed money and long-term care of wounded troops are factored it.
So it hard for me to fathom why the Washington Post has joined with Osama bin Laden, who has announced his determination to bankrupt the United States: http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/…..aden.tape/
Gee Siun, all that stuff is sitting on Nancy Pelosi’s table too.
She will undoubtedly go down in history as The Worst Speaker Ever, and following Denny Hastert, that’s a landmark title.
Yes babys like that.
SOS….anyone out there? SOS!!!
I used to think that the Wall Street Journal’s editors were the most out of touch, based on the difference between what appeared in the editorials vs. what appeared in the rest of the paper. The WaPo has them lapped by now.
Keep going back to McClatchy this week. They will be running four more major articles about the atrocity that is Guantanamo.
We’ve been talking about launching a blog fundraiser for the Red Crescent and Laura mentioned to me that this coming Friday in International Refugee Day. I’m arranging to do a post here to ask folks to help IRC and also will be asking other blogs. It would be great if folks this week looked for ways to get others involved as well.
I’m literally sick that those, Pelosi and Reid, are enabling these criminals….words here on a “blog” cannot even vaguely express my outrage. Besides, when one challenges the criminal’s “offical story” of why we are in this situation, we on this very blog are deemed “an invasion”…we should be “mocked relentlessly”….
I’m really, really offended by the comments that appeared here yesterday. Really offended. If one cannot challenge the “story” told to you by the very people you know very well lied to you…in fact, the very lies that this blog has challenged…and you are branded with the insults I read on this blog yesterday…well….I just don’t know….I’m wounded by the insults I read, right here, yesterday. No moderator stepped up and said, stop insulting the commenters. People challenging the “official story” of the very people that this blog challenges…were met with insults.
I’m really pissed off.
Pelosi could, perhaps, redeem herself by speaking truth to power and naming names of the democrat caucus that has held impeach at bay.
Impeachment, the continued occupation and the degradation of our constitution is the ransom held for a potential bid for presidential power.
LS – I have no idea what thread yesterday you are speaking about but I’d appreciate it if you took up your concern with the moderators rather than here.
I’d be happy to help out. I’ve written a couple of articles on Iraq’s refugees. Sounds like a good time for an update.
I think that when you use it in such an amount that the intention is to use it as a weapon then it is illegal.
There’s a very good new report from Amnesty International on the Iraq Refugees – that might be a good place to look for info. I’ll be using it in my posting for the fundraiser.
I would hope so. And whether or not illegal, it is–by any standard–immoral, inhumane, obscene.
against civilian populations…
and we do.
from wiki:
disgusting.
And it was used to such horror in your home town. We had Dahr Jamail here when his book came out and his accounts from Fallujah were very clear.
Can you tell us a bit about conditions now?
((( LS )))
du look tenuous at best.
White phosphorus OTHO looks like a lockheed wetdream
I agree with all my heart and mind.
I also want to vomit when I read the very true words you wrote:
“American Empire”
Iraqis have it in their power to tell Clusterfuck to stick it where the sun don’t shine. Doubt if they will. They have golden handcuffs?
I’m searching for that now. I found their report from last year (in April). It said there were roughly 3.7 million refugees. Six months later, when I wrote my first article, the UNHCR estimated there were 4.5 million.
It looks like the UNHCR page hasn’t been updated substantially since then. I wonder why?
Perhaps you would clarify your source on that RWC?
Which “Iraqis” to begin with.
Siun, your posts are some of the most honest and compassionate posts ever…so it has nothing to do with you personally.
Some people expressed doubt about the stories told to us by the “official” media, and we were insulted if we differed in our opinions on that and called “crazies”.
I doubt that Gorillaguides would call us crazies for pointing out the BS that we are being fed on a daily basis.
I’m sorry if you are offended. I love your posts and your honesty at getting at the heart of the matter, but some of us don’t like being demeaned for differing with certain opinions and treated as if we are some kind of infiltrating cult, if we challenge Bushco’s BS.
brass ring?
If we are to be an Empire, then we need a better Emperor- and we need to learn how to do a hell of a lot better job of disciplining the colonies…Those fuckers don’t behave and Clusterfuck doesn’t have the faintest fuckin idea of how to fix the problem.
The emporer has no clothes.
I’m so sorry. I’m so incredibly upset about it. People we respect and love were treated like dirt.
Who? Well Maliki for one. He could stand up tomorrow and say “fuck you- no agreement”. He’d have to be willing to face the consequences of course…
LS – I’m just asking that you take it up with the people involved. As I said, I don’t even know what thread you’re talking about etc.
What? You feel bad for “progressive agenda” Pelosi?
since siun has asked us to keep this thread on topic, perhaps we could wait for the next thread? would that be ok with you?
To get to the hospital where I work I have to go through 10 roadblocks. There is very little money for food, and not very much food and the rations have been cut again. We are very lucky if we get 2 hours electricity in the day which means we cannot store food. Water is bad.
Now that the Sahwa have decided to contest the elections there are a lot of beatings and disappeances of people they think oppose them.
People are afraid even to greet there neighbours.
RWC … equating “Maliki” with “iraqis” is way off to my mind.
We do have an Iraqi guest tonight and I suspect she may not apprecite your description of her people.
I imagine you’ve noticed, Shadiya, that what we Americans lack in understanding, we make up for in opinions.
Huh? Where did I describe the Iraqi people? Do you agree that Malaki could reject the proposed agreement if he chose?
That would be the death squads your country paid for and trained and armed and who know the minute you leave that they will be hung. That you are talking about Mr. American.
They are not going to say “no” to their American masters.
Ten roadblocks – that’s awful! and must be very frightening.
I imagine that the tension between neighbors must be so hard at a time when you really need your neighbors?
I abhor the use of nuclear weapons, (and aren’t we the only nation who has used them?), and I still wonder about the empty barrels @ Tuwaitha that were used by the residents for storing drinking water and had previously held “yellowcake”.
Did anything ever result from this report from early on in this travesty?
Sure. Just to make myself clear, not that it matters apparently, since it is “off topic” the conditions in Iraq are a direct result of of the policies of the cabal that I challenge. I challenge the criminals that have created it, their lies, etc….and how they invented the reasons to invade, destroy, and occupy Iraq.
Sure, I’ll patiently wait for the next thread. Sure. I’m a good citizen.
listening, for some, is never easy.
I want new neigbours or the my old neighbours still alive.
Maliki is another of our puppets, rwcole.
I was reading about the rations, and noted the article (linked above) stated there’d been no changes in amounts, which conflicted with other things I’ve heard. The one linked described a monthly ration (per person) of the following: 3 k rice (6.6 lbs); 2k sugar (4.4 lbs) 1 litre cooking oil; 9 k flour (19 lbs); 8.8 ounces of milk for adults (yes, that’s in one month); 63.4 ounces milk for children. 7 oz. tea; 250 g beans (8.8 oz); 500 g tomato paste (17.3 oz) and 8.8 oz of detergent.
PER month. When Hussein was in power, 60 % of Iraqis had no other food source than this. Our govt in action, through the years….
Shadiya – the food situation sounds particularly dire. Laura has been mentioning the cut in rations during our discussions here and reminding people to donate to Red Crescent as one way to help.
Can you explain what is in the rations that people do receive?
I’ll go quietly into the night…for now, but I will never stop fighting these criminals….never.
I’d like those who think the proposed SOFA is sound to state whether they believe that the population redistributions since 2003, in Iraq and in the region, deserve any remedy.
I was being a smart ass, don’t go!
Barring any unforeseen circumstances, M&C is able and willing…! ;-)
YAY CT!
It’s Sunday; it’s Siun!! Howya doin’?? WTF is the matter with the WaPo? That’s something I’d expect to see in NY Post.
Therein lies one of the quandries of the failed foreign policy of the 1600 Crew (among many failed policies). The destruction of the civil infrastructure of the Iraqi Society by the Wunderkind of the Heritage Foundation and Mr. Kate O’Beirne will resonate in Iraq for decades to come.
We broke it, as Colin Powell said in a rare moment of rationality. The problem is that there is no way to fix it even with a perpetual military presence. It will require the patience of more than saints, it might require centuries.
Thanks CT!!!
I’ll send you an email with some thoughts in the next day or so.
Luv you tw3k……it is not you…
It is myopia, and the accusation of being a crazy….for having differing opinions. I know, for sure, that I am not alone. I know that.
What we are meant to get is 3 kilos of rice. 9 kilo of flour. A litre of coooking oil. 250 Ml of milk and if you have children 1.8 of milk per child. Sugar and tea also. And beans.
Especially in Anbar it is often unusable because it is rotted or contaminated and I cannot ever remember getting the full ration since the rape of Fallujah.
I’ll keep an eye out for them! *g*
wtf is this shit?
http://www.iom-iraq.net/default.html
looks pretty but wtf.
I have a great deal of faith in the Iraqi people and their ability to rebuild their country. We need to get out of the way and let them do so.
i guarantee u ir crazier than u ;)
don’t go an don’t b offended. stand ur ground.
(Conversion to U.S. measurements in my 77.)
And not everyone is able to receive these rations, isn’t that so (people lacking ID; babies that haven’t been allowed to be registered, and so on….)?
We dont want you to fix it. We are not stupid enough to believe that you are capapble of fixing it or that you have even the tiniest intention of fixing it. The people to fix it is us.
The people to leave and let civilised people try to clean up the bloodsoaked sewer they have created is you.
That is so little to begin with – and then to receive bad food or none at all!
I cannot imagine how people are getting by at all.
Siun
Has anyone talked about the contamination of the soil that our weapons may be doing? Will they be able to safely grow food?
tw3k … could we please take this elsewhere. I would much rather learn about the conditions in Iraq from our guest who is a nurse there than keep this going about an argument that does not involve folks here now.
skipping 77
Biometric? You mean Iraq is a proving ground for domestic control?
np, sorry.
ALL of the children I see at the hospital and at the charity clinic are malnourished. ALL of them.
Not only the soil; there’s tons and tons of contaminated machinery rusting in junk yards that we won’t be hauling away.
We have to leave, and, I believe, we owe reparations that we should be paying on for a very long time.
I do too, but I don’t know that we’re going to give them the chance until the current crop of asshats is out of power. And even then it’s going to take time for both “sides” in their internal struggles to reach a compromise that does not involve “disappearing” opponents, and brings some sort of peace to the country.
I have faith, but hope is somewhat more elusive as long as the 1600 Crew (and the NeoCons) maintain any presence.
I understand the need to laugh in the face of unbearable pain. But sometimes, it’s unseemly, no matter the urge. People are starving, have been starving and will be continuing to starve because of our decision–made willfully, or made with our compliance through ignorance and complacency.
That’s a very good question Twain!
I had seen a mention that US companies were trying to bring GMO seeds into Iraq as well.
Shadiya … that must make it impossible to provide real healing to the children! that’s heartbreaking.
In the face of which, the video with Siun’s post becomes all the more obscene. A green zone of frolic in a poisoned, starving land, where young Iraqi girls can aspire to clean hotel rooms.
And people wonder why we are hated.
That comment wasn’t made in jest.
I was surprised by the video – it seems the be the work of some anti-occupation Japanese artists and it certainly hits home.
Even al-Sistani realizes what our true ‘intentions’ are…
It makes even the healthy ones vulnreable we all notice that ordinary cuts and bruises take longer to heal than they should and that is even if they do not get infected. We all notice that ordinary childhood illnesses they take longer to get over them.
Is that video for real? I mean it read as something from the The Daily Show.
If it is not completely statire it is contemptible to the core.
I’ve heard close to 5 million displaced Iraqis. Could that number be right?
I apologize for misunderstanding you. I did not see your point, I’m afraid…and am not sure I do, yet.
Oh GOOD! I was suckered? What a relief. I got so sickened I didn’t watch to the end.
Watch the whole thing – they make some very good points and the satire becomes clearer as they go!
OMG, me too! *hands on hips* Siunshine!
It’s hard to learn when one is hungry, too. (Assuming there are schools to go to, teachers to teach, books to read).
I meant proving ground literally. The security model, Biometric IDs, tracking, information control and containment.
Thank you ES. I appreciate you joining me in the Overly Serious corner!
agreed!
it was very well done.
and not far off the mark at all, sadly.
When U.S interests are seriously talking about a Disney theme park in the Green Zone, gambling and Madonna don’t seem far fetched.
I am still chuckling now..)
Yes. Very hard. I see it with my boys.
lol, good i was starting to wonder about my snarkar.
LS, what thread are you referring to?
v. true. I do err on the side of serious, sometimes. (But I really DO have a sense of humor!)
Shadiya – we’ve been discussing trying to raise money for Red Crescent in Iraq. From your experience, would that be a way to help?
My question was for LS @ 73
The Matt Taibi thread and the one before it.
Shadiya, I am so deeply sorry for the pain we cause you, your family, your country.
I also am grateful that you came to teach us today.
From today’s GG post…
Thank you for this revelation. Very surreal and distressing.
Adviser for McCain!
Dubai-based company? Friends of Halliburton.
John Cusack, are you hearing this? Wendy’s not Kentucky Fried… This is like the not so surreal apparently setting of War Inc. (I wished the screenplay at been as well done as the setting…)
I liked Edwards stance… to let any residual troops stay in Kuwait and to officially detach from Iraq. O-I-L.
Trickle down economics. Oy vey.
I got home from Sex in City very disappointed with its script and the portrayal of young but no longer terribly young women … and heard the news about Iraqi refugees… and I felt ashamed… I mean I groove on pop culture… but when you look at what our country has done to their quality of life….
And apparently the infrastructure is a priority to protect over there.. and human life.. not so much.
Gambling addiction and shirt-losing will unite us all.
What happens in the green zone, stays in the green zone??????? Dear God!!!
i, for one, trust you.
Thanks, CT. It is hard but important to wrap our minds around such statistics. And the atrocity-purveyors continue down their garden paths!!!
Dear LL: please see my 114.
Thank you kindly. I appreciate your friendship.
If you are from Austin and dispute Bushco’s official story, you are a “crazy”….just sayin’…that is what Amanda Nobody said….we are all lumped together with Alex Jones as “crazies”….
We who have fought against the invasion and occupation of Iraq, based on lies….are crazy…we who have challenged the policies and the “questionable” evidence of what occurred on 9/ll because of the testimony of creditable people..are simply “crazy”.
BS.
If you refute evidence presented by Bushco, since Buscho seized power of our country…and then you are labeled a “crazy” for doubting the facts…you are a crazy person.
Eat my shorts.
Oh, punked???? Okay… now how am I going to take these articles seriously. How do you separate the funny-crazy from the real crazy????? Duh…..
Shadiya,
My real name is Forest. Thank you coming here today and sharing your thoughts. Please forgive me if I’ve been rude by arguing amongst my friends. We tend to have loud and verbally messy disagreements but we all love each other in the end.
Thank you again for coming here today to share with those that listen.
unclaimed late nite zed upstairs
Yes, thank you, Shadiya.
What a great idea. I think contacting Congress is VERY effective. I pray so.
Thanks, Siun. Thank you again, Shadiya: Best wishes to you, and yours and the GG family.
(I wonder if perhaps the electricity went out…so that your last question goes unanswered, Siun…)
I am always so grateful to the members of the GorillasGuides team who visit with us. Your willingness, Shadiya, to share your experience and knowledge – with us even given our country’s crimes against your people – is a very precious gift. Thank you so very much.
ditto.
and thanks to you Siun.
Just heard there’s been a connection issue for the Guides team so Shadiya is not able to finish her visit.
Given the difficulties of making that connection, we are very lucky indeed that we had at least some time with Shadiya.
Thanks Siun, my apologies for being such a distracton tonight.
I learn much more while not commenting.
Great post. It’s good to know that people are taking notice of the newest flim-flammery.
thank you Shadiya. lots of people here reading even if we don’t have anything to add.
Sorry to be so long. The highest number I’ve seen is 4.7 million. That’s close enough to five million, and there’s uncertainty, that the higher figure might be accurate.
that should read, “there’s enough uncertainty”
Sigh. Maybe I should come back when my mind heals.
That clinic she mentioned that she was working at – is it for refugees, or just the general population? She mentioned that all the children seemed malnourished.
General population Cujo …
Then it’s even more discouraging. You expect worse conditions for refugees.
heartbreaking.