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	<title>Comments on: McCain and Latinos: Ol&#8217; Two-Face Can&#8217;t Shed The &#8216;R&#8217; Brand</title>
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		<title>By: scottynx</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/15/mccain-and-latinos-ol-two-face-cant-shed-the-r-brand/#comment-1497864</link>
		<dc:creator>scottynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;one link broken above, here is the fix:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/ucla-study-of-four-generations-46372.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://newsroom.ucla.edu/porta.....46372.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one link broken above, here is the fix:<br /><a href="http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/ucla-study-of-four-generations-46372.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://newsroom.ucla.edu/porta&#8230;..46372.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: scottynx</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/15/mccain-and-latinos-ol-two-face-cant-shed-the-r-brand/#comment-1497863</link>
		<dc:creator>scottynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There has been some excellent research done by hispanic researchers on Mexican Americans and hispanics:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mexican American integration slow, education stalled, study finds&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;excerpt:”The UCLA study, released today in a Russell Sage Foundation book titled “Generations of Exclusion: Mexican Americans, Assimilation, and Race,” concludes that, unlike the descendants of European immigrants to the United States, Mexican Americans have not fully integrated by the third and fourth generation. The research spans a period of nearly 40 years.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;excerpt:”The educational levels of second-generation Mexican Americans improved dramatically. But the third and fourth generations failed to surpass, and to some extent fell behind, the educational level of the second generation. Moreover, the educational levels of all Mexican Americans still lag behind the national average.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;excerpt:”Economic status improved from the first to second generation but stalled in the third and fourth generation. Earnings, occupational status and homeownership were still alarmingly low for later generations. Low levels of schooling among Mexican Americans were the main reason for lower income, occupational status and other indicators of socioeconomic status.”&lt;br /&gt;
UCLA Study by Vilma Ortiz and Edward E. Telles “http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/ucla-study-of-four-generations-46372.aspx&lt;br /&gt;
……………………………………………………………………………&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Debunking the Myth of Immigrant Criminality: Imprisonment Among First- and Second-Generation Young Men&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;excerpt: “Incarceration rates increase significantly for all US-born coethnics without exception. That is most notable for Mexicans, whose incarceration rate increases more than eightfold to 5.9 percent among the US born; for Vietnamese (from 0.46 to 5.6 percent among the US born); and for the Laotians and Cambodians (from 0.92 percent to 7.26 percent, the highest of any group except for native blacks)………&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thus, while incarceration rates are found to be extraordinarily low among immigrants, they are also seen to rise rapidly by the second generation. Except for the Chinese and Filipinos, the rates of all US-born Latin American and Asian groups exceed that of the referent group of non-Hispanic white natives.”&lt;br /&gt;
UC Irvine Study by By Rubén G. Rumbaut, Roberto G. Gonzales, Golnaz Komaie, and Charlie V. Morgan&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.migrationinformation.org/USFocus/display.cfm?ID=403&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.migrationinformatio.....cfm?ID=403&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
…………………………………………………………………&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think we need to take data like this very seriously and consider that a immigration time-out is probably in our best interests.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has been some excellent research done by hispanic researchers on Mexican Americans and hispanics:</p>
<p>Mexican American integration slow, education stalled, study finds</p>
<p>excerpt:”The UCLA study, released today in a Russell Sage Foundation book titled “Generations of Exclusion: Mexican Americans, Assimilation, and Race,” concludes that, unlike the descendants of European immigrants to the United States, Mexican Americans have not fully integrated by the third and fourth generation. The research spans a period of nearly 40 years.”</p>
<p>excerpt:”The educational levels of second-generation Mexican Americans improved dramatically. But the third and fourth generations failed to surpass, and to some extent fell behind, the educational level of the second generation. Moreover, the educational levels of all Mexican Americans still lag behind the national average.”</p>
<p>excerpt:”Economic status improved from the first to second generation but stalled in the third and fourth generation. Earnings, occupational status and homeownership were still alarmingly low for later generations. Low levels of schooling among Mexican Americans were the main reason for lower income, occupational status and other indicators of socioeconomic status.”<br />
UCLA Study by Vilma Ortiz and Edward E. Telles “http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/ucla-study-of-four-generations-46372.aspx<br />
……………………………………………………………………………</p>
<p>Debunking the Myth of Immigrant Criminality: Imprisonment Among First- and Second-Generation Young Men</p>
<p>excerpt: “Incarceration rates increase significantly for all US-born coethnics without exception. That is most notable for Mexicans, whose incarceration rate increases more than eightfold to 5.9 percent among the US born; for Vietnamese (from 0.46 to 5.6 percent among the US born); and for the Laotians and Cambodians (from 0.92 percent to 7.26 percent, the highest of any group except for native blacks)………</p>
<p>Thus, while incarceration rates are found to be extraordinarily low among immigrants, they are also seen to rise rapidly by the second generation. Except for the Chinese and Filipinos, the rates of all US-born Latin American and Asian groups exceed that of the referent group of non-Hispanic white natives.”<br />
UC Irvine Study by By Rubén G. Rumbaut, Roberto G. Gonzales, Golnaz Komaie, and Charlie V. Morgan<br /><a href="http://www.migrationinformation.org/USFocus/display.cfm?ID=403" rel="nofollow">http://www.migrationinformatio&#8230;..cfm?ID=403</a><br />
…………………………………………………………………</p>
<p>I think we need to take data like this very seriously and consider that a immigration time-out is probably in our best interests.</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/15/mccain-and-latinos-ol-two-face-cant-shed-the-r-brand/#comment-1497596</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ooooh David.  Never mind!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quick!  Upstairs!  Woo Hoo!!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooh David.  Never mind!</p>
<p>Quick!  Upstairs!  Woo Hoo!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/15/mccain-and-latinos-ol-two-face-cant-shed-the-r-brand/#comment-1497589</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OMG, on Father’s Day?!  Oh the humanity!?!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;David.  Quick.  Run on outside and play, honey.  You’ve earned it!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, on Father’s Day?!  Oh the humanity!?!</p>
<p>David.  Quick.  Run on outside and play, honey.  You’ve earned it!</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/15/mccain-and-latinos-ol-two-face-cant-shed-the-r-brand/#comment-1497586</link>
		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/15/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-bruce-kluger-and-david-slavin-young-dick-cheney-great-american/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Eli hosting Book Salon upstairs about the &lt;i&gt;Young Dick Cheney&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/15/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-bruce-kluger-and-david-slavin-young-dick-cheney-great-american/" rel="nofollow">Eli hosting Book Salon upstairs about the <i>Young Dick Cheney</i></a></p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I shouldn’t guess on such things so, being a complete nincompoop, I dive right in.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your very perceptive comment reminds me of something Pade.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Does McSame strike anyone else as possessing weak skills in interpersonal relations?  The wife-associated behavior and awful sexist !comments!, the rather impressive level and frequency of temper tantrums, the quick-and-kinda-nasty asides he snaps out on a regular basis.  This guy does not appear to be a “people-person”, and may have little capacity for feeling, much less showing, empathy for others not as fortunate as he.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am not a psychologist.  But I was pretty good at animal behavior before I lost my mind.  Now where DID I set that thing down…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;AH.  “A mindless fool is a terrible thing to loose onto a vulnerable world.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lessee.  Too long for my bumper.  But might fit my hips.  hmmmmmm.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I shouldn’t guess on such things so, being a complete nincompoop, I dive right in.</p>
<p>Your very perceptive comment reminds me of something Pade.</p>
<p>Does McSame strike anyone else as possessing weak skills in interpersonal relations?  The wife-associated behavior and awful sexist !comments!, the rather impressive level and frequency of temper tantrums, the quick-and-kinda-nasty asides he snaps out on a regular basis.  This guy does not appear to be a “people-person”, and may have little capacity for feeling, much less showing, empathy for others not as fortunate as he.</p>
<p>I am not a psychologist.  But I was pretty good at animal behavior before I lost my mind.  Now where DID I set that thing down…</p>
<p>AH.  “A mindless fool is a terrible thing to loose onto a vulnerable world.”</p>
<p>Lessee.  Too long for my bumper.  But might fit my hips.  hmmmmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
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		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For fathers day Larry Kissell is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/15/144737/200/930/534006&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;selling gas at $1.22&lt;/a&gt; again.  Request for kos recs please.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For fathers day Larry Kissell is <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/15/144737/200/930/534006" rel="nofollow">selling gas at $1.22</a> again.  Request for kos recs please.</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/15/mccain-and-latinos-ol-two-face-cant-shed-the-r-brand/#comment-1497574</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You ARE a good daddy.  heh.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You ARE a good daddy.  heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/15/mccain-and-latinos-ol-two-face-cant-shed-the-r-brand/#comment-1497573</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;wait 2 beats…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wait 2 beats…</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ooohhhh, that’s a thot.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was envisioning him straining to see a posterboard held at the back of the meeting hall, choosing the wrong one, and totally miss-reading an orphan answer following an unrelated question.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How’s his hearing?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooohhhh, that’s a thot.</p>
<p>I was envisioning him straining to see a posterboard held at the back of the meeting hall, choosing the wrong one, and totally miss-reading an orphan answer following an unrelated question.</p>
<p>How’s his hearing?</p>
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