It’s Father’s Day, which makes it the perfect day for Dennis Shulman and his daughter Julie to join us in the comments and talk about his House campaign and animal rights opponent he’s running against. Please welcome them — jh
Dennis Shulman is the blind rabbi and psychologist who is running for the House seat in NJ-05. He’s rumored to be Nancy Pelosi’s favorite candidate, and after having lunch with Dennis a couple of weeks ago, he may be mine.
Over Hunan food, Dennis proved himself to be an ebullient, compassionate, funny and wise man. We spoke about many things, not the least of which was the fact that as a war opponent and a rabbi, Dennis would instantly become a high profile go-to voice in the press for getting us out of Iraq. That’s reason enough to donate to his campaign.
But Dennis really lit up when he started talking about his two daughters — Holly, who is working in Texas as Rick Noriega’s press secretary, and Julie, who is in her third year at the University of Chicago where she’s studying international public health issues.
Julie and her dad share a passion for animal rights, and I asked them to join us on Father’s Day to talk about it. It’s safe to say that Dennis’s opponent, Scott Garrett, doesn’t see things the same way:
- Garrett was one of 23 Representatives (and basically the only one in the northeast) to vote against this post-Katrina act that Bush signed into law. The act required municipalities to also include plans for household pets and service animals in disaster planning. It wasn’t even a funding act, so Garrett’s vote was strictly on principle.
- He also voted against a bill that upgraded penalties to felony-level for illegal transportation of fighting dogs (the crime Michael Vick was charged with); it also banned interstate and foreign commerce in cockfighting. The bill passed 368 to 39 in the House and unanimously in the Senate.
- He voted against the Horse Slaughter Prevention Act, which passed 263 to 146.
- He voted against HR 3824, which including the deauthorization of “critical habitats” for endangered species.
- He voted against HR 249, which restored the prohibition on commercial sale and slaughter of wild horses and burros.
- He voted against HR 2643, the Polar Bear Protection Act, which would have banned federal funding that enables imports of sport-hunted polar bear trophies from Canada. The bill failed.
As Blue Jersey notes, Garrett has received a 17 out of 100 on the Humane Society Legislative Fund’s most recent scorecard, up from 14 for the last one.
Folks who have been around here a very long time will remember that our first fundraising effort in 2005 was for the Humane Society’s effort to rescue animal victims of Hurricane Katrina. Gandhi famously said, “The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.” Scott Garrett is a symbol of the moral decay of the Bush Administration, and his barbaric voting record on animal rights is almost unique in the northeast, a reflection of his own savage views.
Fortunately, we have the antidote with us here today — Dennis Shulman, who wrote his postdoctoral psychoanalytic dissertation on the relationship between two of his blind patients and their guide dogs.
Please join him and his daughter Julie here with us in the comments.
You can donate to Dennis’s campaign here.




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Welcome Julie, welcome Dennis. And happy father’s day!
Kobe says “woof.”
Jus Cogens!
Happy Father’s Day, Dennis and Julie!
Thank you so much Jane and Firedoglake for inviting me on and giving me an opportunity to be with my daughter (who is in Chicago), at least virtually, on Father’s Day.
Thanks, Jane, for having us!
Welcome Dennis and Julie.
Should we be doping horses with steroids for our entertainment? (e.g., Big Brown)
Dennis can you talk a little bit about your feelings on animal welfare? I know the Humane Society has been a big supporter of yours.
And Julie, I understand you’re a vegan.
Just as we’re concerned with athletes harming themselves with steroids, of course we should be seriously concerned about the effect of steroids on horses.
Hi Dennis and Julie, and Jane!
Hey tw3k “I missed the zed.” yer a grownup. when the writer of the post, owner and founder of the blog chooses to appropriate the zed…
well. you’ll get over this little disappointment. yes? *g*
Yes, I have been a vegan for roughly four and a half years now, for a variety of overlapping reasons. It stems out of a feeling that no animal needs to suffer or be killed for me to live. But it also takes into account my passion for the environment and my concern that the negative outcomes of slaughterhouses impact the health and environments of people throughout the world.
lol, yes and a little ribbing from you, Adie, always helps :)
Welcome Dennis & Julie! And Happy Father’s Day to you Dennis. ;-)
Great to see you here again, Dennis! I just want to remind everyone that Scott Garrett doesn’t only hate animals; he also hates people– or at least the non-millionaire species of people. Last week when the House passed a bipartisan bill to extend unemployment benefits to workers who have lost their jobs largely because of policies supported by Garrett, he was one of the ones to vote no. 49 Republicans joined every single Democrat to present Bush with a veto-proof bill. I know Jane already mentioned it, but we’ve got to do what we can to help Dennis get rid of Garrett. Bad for animals, bad for humans, bad for the planet. Help set it right.
I will of course be a strong advocate for animal welfare once I’m in Congress.
Garrett has been out of touch on a wide variety of issues — the war, the economy, energy — but on animal rights issues he’s been off the charts. On two key votes, which are the dog fighting bill and the post-Katrina PETS bill, not only did he vote in opposition to Bush, but he voted in opposition to almost every member of Congress. This is an outrageous record.
Welcome Dennis and Julie. It’s such a treat to have you both here and talking about such a good topic.
Donation on the way – so many good reasons to back Dennis’ campaign!
Thanks Howie! It was great to have your support even before I announced, and it’s wonderful to see that you’ll even get up at 9AM Pacific time to plug my contribution page.
It’s also very odd for the district. Voting to keep dogfighting and cockfighting penalties minimal just isn’t a fundamental value in the Northeast. It must be a personal view, because it doesn’t seem to reflect what people in the district believe.
Thanks Siun – it’s great to have your support.
Howie is tireless. And now that he can make a link, he’s positively dangerous.
What’s even stranger is that the post-Katrina PETS bill cost the federal government not a single penny, but yet Garrett was still opposed to it.
Shalom!
(Waves)
Rabbi Shulman may be my favorite House candidate this cycle.
Welcome Dennis, It is nice to see you here again and greetings to Julie.
I have to admit that I am always put off by animal rights people. With so many dead and displaced in Iraq I just don’t see the animal rights issue as a priority.
Is animal rights a way to raise the awareness of human rights or is it simply a welcomed distraction for the gentrified sect?
Nice to see you here today, Speaker Pelosi.
Compassion for animals is among the fundamental Jewish values, etc., etc.
We’ve talked about that and we’ve facetiously wondered what Scott Garrett’s childhood pet could’ve possibly done to him to make him think that animals deserve this kind of treatment.
My 15 yr old cat Max (Esteemed Serene Ruler of our Abode) now has diabetes. The insulin costs us about $120 a vial, plus the syringes with which we inject him twice a day, 30 minutes after his special meal.
People are literally starving around the world. Literally. In huge numbers.
I justify this expenditure precisely how?
;)
(such questions do get raised)
heh
One of the worst cases of animal abuse I’ve ever witnessed was back in the 1980’s when my cousin Karen and I worked for well-known & popular race horse driver here in Maine. A couple years after she and I got done working for him (he was horrible with his employees…I had to corner him to pay me the $100 I earned after working 50 hours for him, because he didn’t want to), we were out in the woods on her father’s farm gathering seasoned wood piled out there that my uncle had cut. (Bruce McGee’s farm abutted my uncle’s farm) While out there we smelt something horrible. As we got closer to Mr. McGee’s farm we saw immediately where the smell was coming from….5 dead horses in the pasture. Karen said Mr. McGee was in Florida on vacation, so we illegally went on his property to investigate what was going on there. Well, the place was quiet. No one was around. In fact, when we entered one of the huge horse barns, we found more dead horses inside. There were yearling’s who were starving to death (all the horses that were alive were skeletons) because the halter on their faces had never been changed as these young foals grew, so the halter had now become part of their face and these young horses couldn’t open their mouths to eat!
OMG! It still makes me feel faint just remembering this horrific scene.
Anyways, we took lots of pictures and contacted the Humane Society here, and guess what happened? They came to the barn, saw the grotesqueness of it all, and said to my cousin and I, “There’s nothing we can do, because as you can see, he has hay in the barn, grain in the barn, and access to water. He has the intent to feed them.”
What the hell!!!! These assholes did nothing to help these horses even though clearly there was severe abuse going on. We found out later that McGee was in Florida with his girlfriend (his wife was back here) and had left his horses behind.
Not sure if this is a state issue, but dammit, something needs to be changed. Now that there are many “cat/dog” busts here in Maine I’m assuming they’ve tightened up the laws and loopholes since the 1980’s.
Jane taught me to make a link on the same day that I discovered there were other bloggers besides me and Arianna. As for getting up at 9AM… please. I had already hiked and swum laps today before 7 (and posted). And now I’m going to a speaking engagement in front of wealthy liberals to explain why there’s a rabbi in New Jersey they need to get behind– the reason I couldn’t help Jane host this chat today (even though she taught me not just to make a link but also to put words in italics and make them bold.
As for Garrett’s childhood pet, it was probably a mongoose that… well, have a good Father’s Day everyone.
I definitely hear you on this one and this is something I struggle with every day. But many aspects of animal rights (particularly, slaughterhouse issues) are extremely intertwined with human rights. As animal agriculture is a major contributor to global warming, humane treatment of animals is extremely important to ensure the well-being of people throughout the world.
It’s not a choice between treating animals humanely and people appropriately.
For example, let’s talk about the post-Katrina PETS bill…
Surveys indicate that many of the people that died during Katrina died because they wouldn’t leave their homes because they wouldn’t leave their pets. In this case, a humane bill for pets is a humane bill for people.
(((((Howie)))))
huh?
Howie, I stand corrected.
Dennis and Julie — wecome to the Lake — and I don’t know if you know this..but we are all referred to as “firepups” you know…so we are already in a pretty good place in terms of our feelings about animals. And, I consider myself an honorary constituent of your district, Dennis, since our son goes to Fairleigh Dickinson Univ. in Madison, so we drive through on our way all the time…so, I sent some green goodies your way..anyone else?
Howie, one takeaway I had from years of being on a cops-and-courts beat: The way people treat animals is a very good indicator of how they treat human beings.
Thanks for your support and your green goodies — we will use them well!
Checking Red to Blue, they have Adler and Stender, but not this race.
That’s a great point.
We’re currently “targeted” but not quite yet Red to Blue. With your help, we hope to make it there soon.
Didn’t Bu’ush used to blow up frogs for fun as a kid?
Cujo. ;-)
Well said Julie!
I recently was touring around the rescue shelters in Chicago (waving to Hyde Park!)since my daughter moved out of state with our rescue pitbull and the experience was in many ways devastating. Seeing so many lovely animals discarded was a renewed lesson in how irresponsible our society can be. At the same time, meeting so many good volunteers and seeing so many families adopting these animals was also a lesson in how very compassionate we can be.
So many issues we face politically are a measure of our fundamental compassion.
Kobe says he’s in for $50. Anybody want to match him?
Thank you both for the reply Dennis and julie.
It is just frustrating to see commercials on TV for little puppies when there is so little news about important issues in our foreign policy.
Do you think that the radicals in power since 1994 are cooking up a June/July/August/September/October
surprise??
truly Jane?
reputedly with Bar’s blessing. nice indicator. eh?
where to begin……
Would not surprise me one whit.
Animal abusers also have a pattern of becoming human abusers. One of the ways that the Humane Society is approaching animal abuse these days is in the way it relates to battered and abused women and children. Abusers will harm or kill the animal, or threaten to, as a way to control them.
It isn’t an either/or situtation.
Bush blew up frogs, Frist cut up cats, Romney strapped his dog to the roof rack, Huckabee’s son tortured a dog to death… What is it with Republicans and animal cruelty?
It’s a joke. Read the post.
*blush* busted!
I love animals tho. Here is a picture of my pet bird from yesterday.
Dennis; the bird is very bright red, it told me he rather be blue, with a very assertive personality. It likes to land in my window sill and chirp at me while I peck away at the keyboard.
You got me Jane – I’m adding to my donation to match your $50! Let’s see how many matches we can get!
The connections between animal abuse and human abuse is a good point – and teaching children responsibility and nurturing in the care of pet early on I think leads to more responsible and nurturing adults.
The horror of a candidate like Garrett who is so openly lacking in decency – supporting dog fighting and not supporing the PETS bill is astonishing.
I cannot imagine.
I have a mentally ill dog. Lucie. Seriously. I’ve had her for about 7 years. A stray. We got her when, the vet estimated, she was about a year old. She’d obviously been owned, because she had a spay scar.
Even though she loves me in particular, often when I reach to pet her, she winces and pulls her head down and away. Dog has some serious residual issues, ‘cuz we give our menagerie (2 dogs, 1 cat, all strays) nothing but love.
And remember, George Bush was an early animal abuser:
http://partners.nytimes.com/li…..h-bio.html
He went on to bigger and better things.
Lucie’s lovely!
not to bruise yer bubble, but male cardinals, gorgeous as they are, are notorious for attacking their reflection in windows. -um- about as logical as what some other red-tainted things do. *g*
Kobe reminds me — you can give to Dennis’s campaign here.
Kobe would very much like to see Dennis go Red to Blue. And is quite sure Scott Garrett would like to kick him (as clammyc noted at Blue Jersey).
Poor Lucie! :( I’m so happy that she found a home where she gets the love and care she deserves.
My in-laws had a dog with similar issues. His name was Buddy and he was one of the sweetest dogs I’ve ever met.
Lucie’s indeed lovely. She shows abundant evidence of having found a loving home at last. You’re a terrific fella BobbyG.
Kobe, thanks for being such a great spokesdog for the campaign.
Dennis, is Muffin still with you?
Unfortunately not.
Thanks. Red Chow/Huskie mix. Here’s my other one, Jaco. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but a real sweetie. Cheryl picked him up off a freeway on-ramp 5 years ago. He was about to get his black ass killed.
Dennis and Julie – do you see a need for any new legislation on behalf of animals?
And are there other ways we can help your campaign?
Heh. Kobe’s been a tireless spokesman for justice around here for a long time. ((((Kobe))))
I just want to come in and say hi Dennis. Words can’t express how excited I will be to see you in Congress.
Keep up the great work!
Cliff
Yes, they do. Makes quite the ruckus outta it too.
There are a number of pending pieces of legislation that would not only be good for animals, but also good for people. These include the Human & Pet Food Safety Act and the Downed Animal & Food Safety Protection Act.
As for helping the campaign, we’d love volunteers. Creating more buzz among the netroots and making a contribution are also very welcome.
Bobby – we had a wonderful dog who came to us as a 5.5 year old. He was a terrific dog – great with the kids, just wonderful..except for when he saw my husband grab me(which he does – when he wants to waltz around the kitchen). Then, the dog would go just nuts until he would let go. The dog had been rescued from a couple who was going through a divorce. Dogs know what is going on.
Cliff, thanks for all your support!
Wow.
Yeah, they’re perceptive.
I named Lucie as in “LOOOOOOO-CEEEEEEEE!!!! You got some ’splainin’ to do…!!!”
Her capacity for creative destruction is unrivaled.
Thank you for a great post.
Regarding the question of whether it’s appropriate to spend time working for animal rights when there are so many human rights problems that need addressing… I say that they are all related. If in the process of working towards human rights you force yourself to turn a blind eye on all of the other suffering because it is less of a “priority”, then our basic humanity would always be without a good/strong foundation. The point is to do what you can when you can. And build from there.
So, my 27 policy question goes unanswered.
Every time I see this Sarah McLaughlin ASPCA Commercial I think why isn’t this a commercial for the iraqi refuges.
I understand in theory but it seems like the priorities are wrong.
I’ll quit belaboring the idea now.
Humane behavior is not just a matter of caring for companion animals but also addressing the use and treatment of animals in our food supply and more as Julie mentioned.
I don’t see why we should approach compassion as a limited quality – I only have X amount of compassion and so much direct it toward X. Instead I believe compassion grows as we express it … and so can connect us with a wider world of engagement and sharing.
I try to be relatively careful with respect to where I pick my fights (albeit not always successfully). I will continue to inject Max with his insulin, and continue to pay the huge vet bills after my dogs episodically and randomly fight till they wreck each other.
Still, it does not escape me when I buy that $120 vial of insulin that the money would also feed a lot of starving children. Dunno…
My compassion is not what has limits. It’s my wallet.
It is also a issue of priority and resources. I don’t think you are wrong but I do think that there is an imbalance.
I’d like to put in a plug for the Animal Rescue Site which is one of the companion sites to The Hunger Site.
By clicking once a day, you can help to provide food for rescued animals (or food for humans).
The other companion sites are The Breast Cancer Site, The Rainforest Preservation Site, The Child Health Site, and The Literacy Site.
I visit each day, click through all the sites (tabs along the top), and do some small part to help where I can. You can also shop through these sites and do even more.
I have a Lucy who, I bet, could match her.
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toby our dog Tucker does just the opposite when I grab my lady he wants to be part of the group hug. We feel we are very luck to have such a good dog(we got him when the last kid left the nest) We also have a cockatiel who is 24 yrs old. Tucker like to let me know when Tommy(cockatiel) is flying about… Tuucker is such a tattletale… He starts barking and making funny noises whe Tommy is flying about. We love our pets and have no patience for those who would abuse their pets… Why they just want to be loved.
Very well said.
Lucy once chewed through a 4×4 post holding up the hinges side of a gate to the back yard. Like a beaver. I once had her on a coated 3/8 stainless steel runner in the back yard. She chewed it off and jumped the 6 ft cinder block wall. She’s ripped the sunscreens off our ground level windows. I once screwed a thick metal mesh plate to our front side gate to keep her from squeezing out through the vertical tines. She ripped it off. She once got left closed accidentally in the master bedroom, and ripped the carpet off the floor by the door, and gnawed the door, til she got out.
Come on Pups show your support for the Lake and the great guests Jane brings us by Digging Jane’s Post!!
oy how could i miss this thread,i was out tending to the 4 new babies…..i DO animal rescue.i will read more of this fine fine soul…
Welcome Rabbi and Julie Shulman. And thank you for your work.
for anybody interested ,i cook for critters…started with the Pet food poisoning,i have some great links on the site
i love that site
twould be nice is you gave us a linky:>)
i have….Basil,Hary,Jolie,Melba,Mabel
sorry bout that
http://shaggydogfarms.com/
It’s not either/or. We need to have respect for all life, even if it doesn’t look like us. And not a priority as much as a way that we live, as opposed to how we live now.
And there’s this too: the economic troubles we’re facing hit animals hard too. All the most vulnerable members of society – children, seniors, animals.
wow Percy,Angus McGee,Minx and the 4 babies were cut off
http://www.all-creatures.org/q…..lbert.html
i love this poem
Prayers of Compassion
A PRAYER FOR ANIMALS
By: Albert Schweitzer
Hear our humble prayer, O God, for our friends the animals, especially for animals who are suffering; for any that are hunted or lost or deserted or
frightened or hungry; for all that will be put to death.
We entreat for them all Thy mercy and pity, and for those who deal with them we ask a heart of compassion and gentle hands and kindly words.
Make us, ourselves, to be true friends to animals and so to share the blessings of the merciful
peace to you all
Okay I think she wins.
one of my links
https://community.hsus.org/campaign/FED_2008_horseracing%5C
http://shaggydogfarms.com/…….come visit
Your neighbors. Do you mostly see them laughing, or crying, or shouting something intelligible in your general direction? LOL
Now THAT’s a dawg to reckon with. You Go Lucygrrl!
You keep raising the bar, sonny, and you’re gonna end up with the greatest escape artist in dawgdom. Could prolly, might even have-ta take that show on the road. *g*
Those are only her greatest hits, LOL!
She used to jump the back yard walls at will, getting out into the ‘hood, ravaging peoples’ trash cans, fighting with other dogs, menacing people (she’s not vicious to humans, but you would not know that).
Then we got Jaco, and she no longer goes over the wall.
Why? She put on ~15 lbs, vying for the food. She used to be 38-39 lbs, now she’s mid-50’s. Can’t surmount the wall any longer, hahahahaha. Butterball.
When I bought this house and moved across town, my homeowners’ insuror dropped me. “Dangerous breed” (the Chow part). She’s a real risk.
But, her option is to be put down at the shelter. So I keep her. That ain’t gonna happen.
If not too late, I’d like to speak to the flip side of animal abuse. Since parenting was very recent post subject, YES, I emphatically believe that is also part of the mix.
Being pro-active as a parent, not letting even casual, unintentional abuse take place as your energetic young child develops, is an important aspect of parenting. Children taught to treat animals humanely, more often than not, will grow up to be compassionate adults.
And now I cross the line into trubble-land. (nebber did learn to behave proper)
Some of the most fearsome thoughts I have ever heard have been expressed by some who believe strongly that all living things were put on this earth by God, FOR humans to do with whatever they wish. Some of the most cruel behavior I have ever witnessed or read of, is perpetrated by people of faith who, somehow, have become convinced that it’s all here for us to use and toss, because their god said so.
Compassion means different things to different folks.
Why is an ant? Just because. She needs no other reason.
above is NOT snark.
Kudos. You’re a very special guy.
Thank you Dennis and Julie Shulman for your gifts to the world.
Why? She put on ~15 lbs, vying for the food.
There’s a lesson in there, somewhere.
I don’t get what any of those issues have to do with animal rights. They have a lot to do with animal welfare, but let’s face it–there’s no one on Earth that can state an actual moral right that she or he will grant to animals.
Note that if you’re paying someone who violates the right, you’re violating it too.
Can someone explain to me why an animal who is eaten after being killed deserves far more moral consideration than one that isn’t, for example a rat poisoned with warfarin at a grain elevator?
Or why animals who are used as subjects of biomedical experiments are a major focus of those who claim that animals have rights, while the same people simply deny the very existence of the animals who are subject to far more painful procedures to provide reagents, such as bovine serum for cell culture or antibodies for clinical HIV testing?
Both of these hypocrisies seem to represent the same logical fallacy to me.