I want to talk a bit about management measurement. I recently spent a number of years in a good sized multinational, and I watched management trying to gain control through measurement. And mostly I watched as they gained the wrong sort of control; as they crystallized behaviour in ways that lose more from employees than they gained.
When you’re dealing with small numbers of people, simple measurements are all you need, and indeed the time spent measuring can be a simple waste of time. For larger groups, and as management becomes disassociated from the actual work of the organization, measuring is necessary so that management knows what is happening and can modify it. The old saying (which I’m sick of) is that “you can’t manage what you can’t measure.” It’s a statement with a lot of truth to it, but so is this – “you measure what you manage, so you’d better be sure you’re measuring what you want to manage.”
Here’s an example. A friend of mine used to do customer support for laptops. He was measured on how long he was on the phone and how quickly he picked up. If he spent too long on the phone on average, then he was taken aside and reprimanded. These measurements encouraged tech support employees to get people off the phone as quickly as possible, whether their problem was solved or not. Assuming management actually wanted happy customers (ie, that they saw tech support as a way to sell the next laptop, rather than something they had to do as cheaply as possible) then the way to measure this would be to have an automatic survey at the end of the phone call, asking how satisfied the client is. Since there will always be jerks who are never happy with phone support, you set the threshold at a certain percentage of “unhappy” customers and then if someone goes over that you investigate. To keep productivity up you measure phone time and compare to satisfaction ratios and (horrors) investigate individual reps who spend more time than normal on the phone, then coach them individually on how to solve problems with less chit-chat while still keeping the customer happy.
I’m going to discuss five issues related to measurement. The first is the problem of measuring what you can easily measure. Simply put, it may be more difficult to measure some things than others. Management tends to measure those things that are easy to measure. In a call center there are plenty of systems which will allow you to track a wild variety of phone stats, but you can’t measure one CSR helping another with a call. In sales you can measure how many sales a salesman makes and how much they’re worth, but it’s more difficult to measure whether he’s made verbal promises your company will have trouble living up to. You can measure the number of code lines a programmer put out, but it’s harder to measure how easy they will be to maintain down the line.
This is often a systems issue. Whatever the system assists your employees to do, is easy to measure. So if you have a system that presents work items, and which employees close those work items, it’s easy to measure how fast they’re doing them. But what if some work items are harder than others? And what happens to those employees who are taking calls or e-mails you can’t track and are helping customers or other employees with those problems – is that behaviour you don’t want to encourage? Because if you’re measuring only processing times then those who do other things will be measured as less productive. So they stop helping customers, and soon you have a reputation as having unresponsive employees who never want to take time to help people.
And this leads to the second issue, which is what I call Putting your Fingers Down. Another way of putting it, is “you get the behaviour you measure.” If a job involves 10 activities, and you publicly measure only 5 of them, your employees will gravitate towards those activities. It often seems obvious what an employee does. Let’s say you have repair techs in a retail store and you decide to measure their productivity by measuring how many appliances they repair. Sounds good eh? Productivity increases and you’re happy.
Until you start getting complaints that the repair techs don’t want to talk to customers, and that when they do all they seem to want to do is get away from them. You also hear that some techs are taking easy repairs and leaving the hard repairs for others, who put them off, because that boosts their stats. So easy repairs are getting done fast, the hard ones are getting done slower, and customers aren’t getting individual personal attention any more, so they aren’t happy. That worked well!
Which leads to what I call the The Limits of Coercion. Public measurement is a form of coercion. The idea is to measure people and then push them to do better and get rid of the ones who don’t measure up. You put your fingers down and say, “do this!” And you can absolutely do it. Whatever behaviour you are able and willing to take the time to measure, you can and will get. But what you can’t get is positive cooperation. You can’t make people do the extra things. And people resent the wrong type of measurement. The problem is that you as management think you understand the job. Problem is, unless you still do it yourself, you probably don’t. Outside of the sort of jobs that are truly subject to Taylorization, most jobs require a myriad of little tasks and if people don’t do them, the overall job suffers. If you start measuring the wrong specific things then people’s attitude when you pull them in for a talk is “I’m doing fine on the stats you said you want, I don’t have time for the other stuff.”
The other problem is that people subvert the measurements. There are almost always ways to make the numbers come out better than they should, and people will take the time to find them and do them. Which leads to the fourth issue, the question of “Public metrics and private metrics.” Simply put, when you’re setting up metrics you should first find out which metrics track each other; figure out why they track each other; and measure both sets. But one set you keep private and the other is the public set. If the private set starts diverging from the public set then you should investigate if people are fiddling with the public set. Odds are they are.
But the real, final point is that you should be looking for your “Bottom Line Metrics”. In a call center it might be the percentage of happy callers divided by the average time per call. In a processing center I once worked in the VP (a very wise man) used to publicly (I’m sure privately he had a number of measurements which had to remain satisficed) measure only one thing – the average time from a piece of work entering the center to the time it left. He didn’t measure any specific processing times – only how well the center was working overall. If that number went up he’d want to know why, and when he wanted it to go down he let people tell him how they were going to get it down, not the other way around. The center ran very well. When he left his successor started putting his fingers down and both customer satisfaction and employee happiness declined.
In the end you should ask yourself “what are we trying to accomplish?” Then you publicly measure that, and only that. It may seem that you want to do multiple things, but in most cases you can boil it down to one thing – as with the customer service center where happiness was divided by call times. You want people to go away happy after their call with the least time necessary to make them happy. If you can’t break it down then you either don’t understand what the job actually entails (or what your division or company does) or you may need to break the work into different functional groups.
Finally, don’t fall into the MBA trap. As a manager you probably don’t really know what your employees are doing. You probably don’t really understand what is required to do the job well. However unless you’ve beaten them down too hard, or you’ve got a crew of reprobates, most people want to do a good job. Most people want to be able to say “damn, we’re good!” Don’t treat them like untrustworthy children, and you may find that they’re on your side and that measuring only the bottom line, on the minimum, is sufficient. When you go to war with your employees and try and measure every specific behaviour, generally both sides lose.



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Just get the job done efficiently and effectively. That ought to about cover it.
Good day, Ian.
Your post is Dugg!
and that is why I am self employed.
Was just reading an article over at The Oil Drum which mentioned Soro’s book ‘The Alchemy of Finance’ and his concept of reflexivity.
The poster sez:
‘Reflexivity’ which in a nutshell is when observers of a phenomenon can’t help but impact the phenomenon itself via their ‘observing’, thus changing the original underlying fundamentals and setting in motion a boom-bust dynamic (i.e. more exaggerated trends in both directions.
Heisenberg had something to say about this and closer to home it is shown in The Origin of Wealth a really important book all should read that markets, which are the sea companies attempt to survive in, are not stable nor predictable by their very nature.
Lots of new theory coming on in economics that shed light on the conundrum central to you post. Check
it out!
Good to see some thoughtful stuff for discussion here.
Hah….hah…hah…
Me too.
I should come to drinkin liberal-like in Oakland soon. I am often in Berkeley.
Once everyone starts using the same system, the fact that everyone uses the system capsizes it. This is why perfectly good trading systems, say, become less useful over time (and then, once forgotten, may start working again.) Same thing inside organizations – measurement is like a drug, the first few times you use a particular drug it works well, but eventually you build up resistance and you only get the downside, the down – not the high. At least if you don’t use it the right, very careful, way. Though the examples above are internal to businesses the same sort of thing has occured with numbers like, say, CPI or GDP. In another sense, you can also look at current market/economic failures and see them as a measurement problem where people figured out how to game the system to get great numbers ($$$$$) without actually increasing the productive stock that is supposed to underly the money stock. They gamed the system, made a ton of money, and at the same time most people wound up worse off.
I’ve always thought of Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle as one of the Great laws of how the universe really works. Maslow’s Heirarchy of Needs goes into that category, as does (alas) Murphy’s law.
Aloha, Ya’ll! Most excellent post, Ian! ;-)
A certain rather large software company has always prided itself on the percentage of desktops it “owns”; unfortunately, it never sees itself as a near monopoly which thwarts innovation, but as a popular software manufacturer.
The worst part of their blindness is that they rarely ask themselves if their customers are happy, or what their customers want, instead of whether their customers like their product.
Ask any user who has put a lot of time into some key work under deadline, only to get a “blue screen of death” what they think — that’s the real measure of success. Does the customer say, “Oh nuts, I’ll have to wait a minute to resume work,” or do they rant a blue streak and wish for another, better, more reliable product that’s interoperable with other users’ systems?
I once worked at a metric obsessed company and the technical support call center was concerned with, in order of precedence, First time fix (biggest thing), correct part sent, # of parts shipped, agent time per call, and if the customer called back within a week, for any reason, the agent lost the first time fix (bad thing).
The company eventually began collecting data on every conceivable thing, they knew the amount of so called personal time that an agent was away from their phone during their work week and over 15 minutes was a bad, bad thing. Too much time in the can! Did I mention this was a big building?
They started making people attend to all the e-mail and phone messages before logging onto the phone, ie off shift (Right to work State). It was incredible, it got to the point where data was collected on people simply because we could.
Another thing that I’ve always thought, even pre-natally, is that complicated measurement systems and especially employee drug testing are symptoms of bad managers. My drug policy for employees was “I don’t test. If your work isn’t what i think it should be, I don’t care why. you’ll be gone.”
I am curious as to whether there is any relation between organizational structure and complexity of measurement systems. Some organizations have relatively few layers between workers and top managers (the Catholic Church is a classic example; priest, bishop cardinal pope). Others have many more layers.
Do the ones with more layers tend to have the top manamgement perceiving that they need more measurment?
There is a story about a nail factory in the Soviet Union. One year they were rated Solely on tonnage of production. They produced a years output of spikes. Seeing the error, the next year the metric was changed to quantity of nails. They produced brads and tacks.
I really wish there was an “edit ” function.
By any measure, NYC banks and financial houses are dead broke.
Still, Bernanke keeps lending these NYC neurasthenicacs more money.
Inflation goes up 10%, or more, per year while the price of my house drops by 10%, or more, per year.
None of these WTF measurements make sense, either.
One department had a window, can’t remember exactly what it was but something like you must spend more than 60%, but less than 75%, or some such. Drove people crazy. The real problem was the “over 60%” because most of the reps found that wasn’t necessary (it wasn’t CSR in the sense of being called, it was keeping existing accounts happy). They started calling customers and asking to be put on hold, and other suck stunts, just to get their times up. Within 5 years they had over a 90% attrition rate and lost all the old timers. They were real happy about that, because it lowered the cost structure.
Then they started to find out that no one could handle the more complicated problems. Not even the managers, who didn’t have the background necessary.
Oops.
Ian, I have a feeling that if you and I sat down for drinks before dinner some Saturday night, we’d still be there in time for church the next morning. We have that many geeky systems passions in common.
One of my all-time favorite Dilbert cartoons featured Pointy-Hair issuing the edict that from here on, programmers would earn bonuses for every bug they fixed. The last frame showed Wally hurling himself into his chair with great glee, announcing “I’m gonna sit down this afternoon and write me a new minivan!” Be careful what you measure, indeed. The annals of software development are full of such tales.
But so is politics. Dave Sirota pointed out the other night at his Seattle appearance that we have this really skewed idea of the usefulness and importance of federal elections, because that’s the only kind of political effort the media covers. It doesn’t cover local or state politics (much), let alone direct action and citizens groups and all the other political stuff that’s not related to elections and federal officials. So we think the only way to get things done is to go whine at our congresscritter — and fail to see all the other things we could be doing, too.
It’s probably also why the election season has gotten so long: a lot of powerful people in the media and consultancies rake in a lot of money during elections. The longer they run, the more they make. (As Ian knows, in Canada, they’re about two months period.) It’s not good for the country, but it’s good for the networks and campaign pros, so that’s what we get.
But that’s a blog post of my own, and I’d better get to it.
yes, we seem to share the same (twisted ;) ) passions.
I think David is right, but like the evangelist he is sometimes overstates his case. Work from both top and bottom, meet in the middle. If you have a weakness in either, you’ve got a problem (though I’d rather be weak at the top in a democracy, than at the bottom. Bottom-up strength does eventually translate, and frustrating as it can be, top down strength without foundations eventually crumbles before the onslaught. The 80’s and 90’s made that case for liberals/Dems.)
US election seasons are insane and interminable. 2 months seems plenty long enough. A year – year and a half distracts from politicians actually governing and, as you note, seems to mostly benefit various parasite.
Oh, my. Let’s talk about measurement in what I do, medical transcription. You can measure keystrokes per hour, and get lots, but you probably sacrifice accuracy. You can measure accuracy but you may have fewer keystrokes. Just to let y’all know, most healthcare organizations opted for speed over accuracy, and then demanded cheap into the bargain. One of our docs has his transcription done in Bangalore. It comes back with the speed of light, but accurate? Not so much… When you need an accurate transcription of your MRI report you may be taking your chances. /howling in the wilderness
Ian, this is one of the best articles on management I have read in a while. Here’s another metrics example.
It’s funny that the place I work is currently on a metrics kick. One of the metrics I deal with on a daily basis is whether or not a project milestone is completed on time. Wouldn’t you know that people are inventing creative ways to meet milestones. Project quality is suffering, but milestones are being met.
Ian good post.. oh and I did Digg it Newton what about the rest of you!!
I was a field rep for over 18 years and as such have been through the wringer of Management metrics…. What freaking waste of time and effort! I can see measuring how happy your customers are but when 1 bad survey counts as much as 10 good ones it becomes dam right stupid! I was also measured on how long a computer stayed fixed… great if you are the one who is also building the replacement but again stupid because the rep was dinged because of a bad part!! I had it great for years with one of my managers as he understood what customer care really was about… He pretty much left me alone to manage my territory as long as customer weren’t calling with complaints I was getting reasonable reviews…. Then this nerw kid takes over and for the first year It worked OK… Then one of my junior techs decided to quit while I was on a two week vacation and the shit hit the fan… Oh yeah I was also supporting one of the research centers during after hours and was earning our district lots of journal transfer funds… Well he decides he needs to micromanage me and starts pissing off my internal customers to the point where the secretary to the VP in charge of the center calls me up and starts swearing and cussing him out… took me a long time to calm her down and then I had to go over his head to get PERMISSION to the project they needed doing. To make a long story short that is when I went and found another job and I made sure that I told them that I was going to a competitor … which meant I had to leave the next day and not the two weeks notice that I had given them. I left that bastard in a lurch as I was supporting 1400 accounts not including the internal ones… The rest of my team was pissed at me as they had to pick up the slack and they had no idea just what I was doing!! The team never made their numbers after I left until they finally got rid of that manager because of poor performance two years later.
So as you said Ian be careful what you measure you just may not get the results you thought you would… in fact you may start losing more and more customers as they couldn’t be sure they would be taken care of when they had problems!!
Now I work for myself and only as much as I want and I never lose customers:>)
That reminds me of the old project management dictum: “cheap, fast, and good – pick two.”
Ian,
My “field” is software quality assurance.” Unfortunately, it is one of the areas where metrics are quite easily and often abused.
Everyone is always looking for the miracle/magic wand for software development.
Too bad it doesn’t exist.
I too am self-employed. I tell my clients that the shorter the lines of communication , the better.
Ian’s entry reminds of an experience I had with a corporate computer programmer. He worked for one of the big, national home improvement chains. He was in the headquarters and they used some really old IBM equipment. The programmers knew that is what kept them employed, but they always envied the companies out there who were willing to spend to get modern computers. But over the years, this programmer realized their was even more job security with or without those old computers. He realized that each time a new CEO, COO, or CFO entered headquarters, orders would come down from on high to change the reporting format of every financial and management report the company had. He told me it was more often than not a change in the format of the report, not the statistics themselves. His department was regularly off-schedule in its tasks because of these demands to have left-hand justified reports, or reports with bold text columns of data in landscape rather than protrait format, and on and on.
The old Lockheed Cost/Schedule Control Criteria System (CSCC)is hard to beat. I bet everyone here knows it under one name or another. Actuals and Budgeted, Scheduled and Completed. Concise and no wriggle room if there is any kind of top management oversight.
I believe this is exactly what they do in Japan: 2 weeks. And I think they have to tear down the posters they put up too.
The worst part about Japan is those blaring trucks with the big speakers booming out campaign slogans. All day, all night it seems. They do the very same thing when they have transit-strikes. I don’t speak the language, so it all sounds the same to me. And if you talk to most Japanese, they say the same thing!
Exactly. The same applies in printing (the last thing I did).
Oh my fractal SPiral
Hi Ian good to have your post again. The Chicago Boys and the economic school have done a whole lot of damage in the “Global Economy” ya think.
Well this is more micro econ syeppin across the dollar to pick up the dime.
Ian,
the idea of keeping two sets of books (private v public) seems like a reasonable thing, but doesn’t that eventually work against the manager? It may “flag” a problem in the making (or a bonus and reward), but can it really be “private”?
Rnron amd the telecoms that restate teir bottom lines for the shareholders and reporting rules are measuring how much they lied.
Is their a metric for the amount of fabrication in corporate reporting?
Two stories from my temp life.
I worked at a call center one summer. We had these nights where our calls-on-hold time was always below target. Discovered that that manager would just “dump the queue,” hanging up on everyone who was on hold to make sure that his shifts made targets. I quit there when I realized that the “bonuses” that were about to be added to our salary were never going to happen because the big bosses couldn’t figure out a system that people couldn’t rig. Duh.
The other interesting job was at a place that did employee evaluations. They were “360 evaluations” where people evaluated their peers and bosses, as well as their underlings. What became immediately obvious to me was that the rankings received by any individual meant nothing. Why? Because what was consistent was the ratings an individual GAVE, not the ratings they GOT. People tending to either give everyone a five or everyone a two.
I pointed this out to one of the higher ups. They were horrified that a temp was noticing patterns that invalidated what their project was alleged to do.
I work in a white-collar union job now and one of the best things about it is the lowering of pointy-headed boss ridiculousness. When you can have a union rep in with you in a reprimand meeting, they only tend to be held when something is actually wrong.
4 words
“No Child Left Behind”
The idea that you can run an educational system based on spotty tests is absurd, as any educator would tell you.
I thought it really cool when my first grader was learning about cloud formations. Then I find out it’s on the standardized test in 3rd or 4th grade.
The school simply chose to slip it in before the grades where they have to really bust on teaching reading and math to the test.
My daughter has made decent progress over the past year of second grade, but her testing results are all over the map. Why? Because she is frickin’ 8 years old! Some children may be focused and consistent performers at that age, but I think it ludicrous (and counterproductive) the be evaluating them or their teachers on scatter shot standardized tests.
my first job out of college was computer programming for chase manhattan bank. my vp’s instructions to us: get the projects completed, debugged and working well on time, however you do it. if you’re not going to make your deadline, let us know. we got paid time and a half for overtime. and were left alone to do our work. it all worked smooth as glass.
another job i had, otoh, programming for a very small company, the boss said for every 5 minutes you come in late, he’s docking us an hour’s pay. i mentioned that meant that if we were 40 minutes late, we might’s well not come in. he also didn’t want us going out to lunch – it took too much time. so we brought in the pots and pans and created excellent meals in house – it probably took us 3 times as long what with the meticulous attention to cooking, eating and cleaning up. when we got tired of that, we all quit, pretty much all at once.
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I agree 1000%. NCLB is driving way too much in the classroom. In my state, the end-of-grade tests start in 3rd grade. The 2nd graders during the same week get “pre-testing”–which looks a lot to me like “how to answer a forced-format quizz in a short period of time”. Their scores are not recorded, but the worksheets do come home to the parents with check-marks and red x-marks–and the kids tell us what the teachers told them.
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Because they want to train our children, rather than educate them! NCLB has to be stifling to creativity and intellectual curiosity. I can’t even imagine!
Looks like all the software geeks are out for this one. Fair warning, I’m software architect and this topic is particular hobby horse of mine.
The key principle is that you have to figure what you produce and measure your throughput (in the aggregate, measuring individual effort is useless any time many people are involved in a process). If you’re measuring anything else, you are just wasting effort. In my business, we take user requirements and turn them into working code. Everything else we do is just overhead, unless it contributes directly to that goal.
Measurements can look different from the bottom, where they’re generated, than they do from the top. The nature of the job determines what you do, who fills out what form determines what management sees. If a promotion or raise depends on pencil whipping a few stats those stats will be pencil whipped. Where I used to work upper management would, from time to time, and for no apparent reason, decide more time and effort should go to one area or another and they always got the numbers they asked for by the next reporting period, and this happened without anyone from the line managers down changing anything other than which boxes were checked on the relevant forms. I had one manager who told a VP that if the VP would tell him exactly what numbers he wanted from us that he would guarantee to deliver them. The VP, who obviously knew what was going on didn’t give out the magic numbers but he3 didn’t act shocked by the implication either.
Socialization has always been a public school objective.
I don’t even mind that – if my child had problems with it I would seek alternatives, but that has not been necessary.
NCLB isn’t even good at training basic skills.
New generation of factory workers, that’s what they want. Even though we no longer have a lot of viable factories. But to work a computer or a register? Yeah, can do. Basically training for menial tasks. There were hints of that in my 80s education and the mid 90s when i graduated. But at least i was still able to learn critical thinking in high school! I’m glad i’m out of that system now.
But i also did a lot of exploring things on my own, outside of school. I could pass the trained tests easily, but i was bored as hell even then. It’s gotta be even worse for kids like me in schools now. Highly intelligent but bored as hell by the lesson/testing plan. And no way to escape it, either; since a lot of parents can’t afford private schooling.
Private schooling is not necessarily any better. The private schools where I live experience a lot shifting back and forth by families who test-drive public and test-drive private schools. Parents have realized that accredited private schools teach to the test too, sometimes more effectively.
No child left behind really means all children left behind because of the consequences of low scores. So what do Teachersdo they resort to teaching how to take a frigging test:>( Nothing is really learned and creativity has been ignored… no wonder our kids aren’t ready for the work world or for that matter college:>( Fucking Republicans don’t understand what LEARNING is really all about! But then again I think thats what they want.. a bunch of dummies who can’t think for themselves so they can be exploited and paid substandard wages. Gee do you think this will help thew welfare rolls?? Oh and they sure don’t want to waste their money on teaching THOSE KIDS!!
WilliamOcham-
If you measure the “throughput” of a school system (or learning system), do you include or even attempt to account for the public funding and distribution of funds ? I guess I am asking how you would think of “cost of transportation” as a factor of “the neighborhood school has good academic standing”.
Yeah. I was thinking of the only private school i grew up near. It was actually a catholic school, but it’s reputation was excellent for turning out mostly good students at the time. One of my friends had been skipped ahead about a grade and a half by the time he graduated from them. But i was part of a mid size city scheme with mostly public schools to begin with. They knew i was scoring high, but made no effort to get me ahead either. So i started being a slacker. *shrugs* i could pass the tests with minimal effort so it wasn’t much to do, and the better teachers knew how to get me interested in a few subjects.
It’s not surprising they’re all different in terms of how well they teach.
I believe that the neo-cons had their eyes on the school funding money. Since when was the federal guvt given legal status to meddle in a states rights issue? If the neo-cons could show multiple failing schools, they could ’sugggest’ that the school dollars would be better handled by the feds. Simple, really.
That doesn’t make sense to me. Even NeoCons abhor more Federal spending. Can’t see them wanting to Federalize education—”funding the mandates” they ahve complained about for ages.
BUT if Federalizing Education really meant more MIlitary Academies–well, then I could see it.
Privatizing schools by hiring private corporations to run the schools. Dumb things down and steal the money because “the private sector can always do everything more efficiently than the public.” /s
It’s not funding the mandates it’s ripping off the taxpayer. They’re real good at that doncha know.
I see what you mean.
I read a piece some years ago about how public education was modeled first by an Austrian or German educator’s theories. In essence, this educator believed a time-conscious, obedient and modestly skilled worker should be the aim. And from that flowed the system that educated much of Europe in the late 19th and early 20th Centuries. The author of this article (whose name I have forgotten) was a retired NY City public school teacher and he detailed his history nicely. Your argument resonates well with his conclusions and I recognize them in the way public schools operate today.
The company I work at just changed their review schedule from once a year to twice a year – we don’t know why; no one has passed the word down the channels. It’s a pain because we have to enter our ‘goals’ in the computer – and it’s via a program that is not very friendly, although I’d bet that HR can make it jump through hoops.
I do QC, and when it backs up everyone thinks I need help, but when my in-basket is empty and my out-basket is full, no one is in a hurry to do anything about it. I shouldn’t have to tell the people who supervise the work what’s going on; those baskets are right in front of their desks.
It usually is. The key is to keep it really really simple, and if it does require measurement, you use something that seems to being measured for some other reason, and you never ever refer to it, so people can’t game it.
Totally in/out time, the example above, while not impossible to game, is very hard to game. If that’s going up while other numbers are going down, there’s something wrong, for example.
I’m also a big believer in just walking the floors. Managers, including senior executives, who don’t walk the floor lose all sense of reality about what’s really happening in their company. That and establishing your own, non-official network, right from the mailroom up to the executive board.
I have not worked in large companies and only briefly in small ones where a manager of some time is involved, so I appreciate the clarification.
On the other hand, I have been across the table from corporate clients and been involved in their facilities planning. You said about the MBA trap: ” As a manager you probably don’t really know what your employees are doing. You probably don’t really understand what is required to do the job well. “—-how true, how true. In places like duPont and Procter & Gamble, it is hard to imagine the layers of management and how they operate. Scale matters, but corporate culture and knowing which division made a profit last quarter matter more.
Yeah, I’ve certainly been in a position where the numbers were being completely managed. But then, as in your case senior management was begging for it. Unlike in your case I don’t think they knew they were begging for it. Their problem is they wouldn’t /listen/ to junior management. It was “no, I don’t want to hear why it can’t be done, just get it done.”
Makes a fine soundbite, but in fact, sometimes things either can’t or shouldn’t be done (no sir, that’s actually against the law or “we could do that, but it would mean more delays down the line than it would save up front”). So eventually junior management decided the seniors were completely clueless and intent on destroying the department for short term gains and just started lying to them.
And so senior management thought everything was going great, but they had really just lost complete control of the department, and the knowledge of what was going on in the department.
The measurement problem does raise a social Heisenberg principle. This point was forcefully brought home to me by Nancy Folbre’s The Invisible Heart (as opposed to the invisible hand). She persuasively observes that in a whole range of activities — child care, education, medical services, old-age care, and indeed customer care in general — major elements of the ‘output’ do not have a metric, without which market solutions to getting the ‘right amount’ are not feasible. How would you measure the psychological quality of the care your mother receives from an attendant in an Old Age Home? Who monitors that? How is it monitored? She makes the point that these services were traditionally given by women, which may account for their historical subjugation. The service of caring are essential, but it is hard to organize their supply on a pay-for-service basis. Possibly impossible to do so.
This is a problem that is not going to go away. If there is a best solution I don’t know what it is. Second or third-best is some kind of social or government provision, as is done in Europe and Canada.