I get that “cynical” thing all the time but I disagree that I’m a cynic. Ambrose Bierce said that a cynic is a “blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they should be.” But if you see them as they are AND how they should be, and you’re trying to be upset about the distance between the two, that’s not cynicism, that’s just being outraged like any normal person would be. The problem we have in our media is that too many journalists act like the stuff they cover is okay because people have always acted like it’s okay. If Tom Brokaw isn’t screaming “WHAT THE FUCK!” when he reads the news, nobody else will. But they should, sometimes. That’s sort of where I see my role. I don’t think that’s a cynical approach. Tom Friedman, making gazillions of money saying nothing and blowing powerful people, that’s cynicism.
If the last eight years haven’t made you cynical, well, you probably need lots of help overcoming your drinking problem. But cynicism can either make you angry enough to try to change something, or it can make you sit on your ass — out of despair, or a belief that you’re too damn cool to sully yourself with the political dirt: whatever, the effect is the same. You’re on your ass, out of the game, and that’s a small comfort to some real sonofabitches out there.
The GOP and their enablers & hangers-on want to make you too cynical to do anything. But even though this particular tactic is rather more subtle than the usual "liberals hate America!" stuff, it’s getting awfully worn out. We’ve seen this before. Like many another fishy conservative stratagem it has been left out so long even a half-starved cat won’t eat it. But they won’t stop sticking it under your nose.
To wit. Here’s David Brooks, who is overcome with ennui.
Why is there no zip in my zest, no snap in my vigor? Why does my mood stretch out blue and lifeless, like a patient etherized upon a table?
Here we have two outstanding presidential candidates. The Economist magazine, which is so much cleverer than the rest of us, lauds them as the best of America. And yet somehow the campaign is not exactly Lincoln v. Douglas or Plato v. Aristotle. Every day’s issue blip is more trivial than the last. McCain used some unfortunate phrase about American troops staying in Iraq and the Obama henchmen launched a thousand conference calls twisting the phrase entirely out of context and claiming that McCain doesn’t care about the fate of the troops. James Johnson, Obama’s V.P. vetter and a highly respected political practitioner, takes an insider loan or two and the entire McCain apparatus erupts as if this transgression reflects directly on Obama’s fitness for office.
Right. On the ‘tubes the pundits come and go, but none quite wanks like ‘ol Bobo.
As usual with Brooks it’s hard to tell where to start peeling the Onion of Suck. First, it’s pretty rich seeing David Brooks whine about the elevation of the trivial in the context of a presidential election, not least after seeing as how he just got his salad tossed at Applebee’s. Second, the two examples of horribly unfair mudslinging are not remotely equivalent. What the Obama camp is saying about McCain’s "100, even 10,000 Years in Iraq!" stuff happens to be a valid criticism, in that when you put it back into context, it is clear that McCain is nuts. Third, the stuff about Obama’s VP vetter really is stupid — but then, that’s the point, isn’t it?
Pretend that Obama rightly pointing out that McCain makes no sense on Iraq is the exact same thing as a nonsense gotcha from McCain. And for the rest of your performance, make like Obama is an unethical hypocrite for wanting to reduce the influence of lobbyists in politics. (No, Brooks really says that.)
David Brooks may be stupid, but he’s not stupid. (You know what I mean.) Oh, they are all the same, those politicians! It is all so wearying! Why… even try… too… tiring… they play these awful games… even that young well-spoken black fellow of who I had such high hopes… oh how dispiriting… please, I have some Amontillado down there behind those stones, why don’t you go find it…
The absolute last thing Brooks wants is for anyone to get thinking that this election matters or might represent some sort of change. Take your cynicism back to the couch, you.
And it gets better: note the idea that to fight back against idiot smears is somehow declasse. Observe how the narrative will develop as Obama says he won’t put up with it:
Barack Obama is warning supporters that the general election fight between him and John McCain may get ugly, but the Illinois senator is vowing not to back down.
"If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun," Obama said at a fundraiser in Philadelphia Friday, according to pool reports.
"We don’t have a choice but to win," Obama said, joking that he has heard "folks in Philly like a good brawl. I’ve seen Eagles games."
Obama again said that the GOP will make try to make him look "scary" to voters.
Oh but it is so rude of that scary black man to point out the obvious!
McCain and the RNC took on the comment in terms that will be very familiar to people who followed Clinton campaign statements last year:
“Barack Obama’s call for ‘new politics’ is officially over. In just 24 hours, Barack Obama attacked one of America’s pioneering women CEOs, rejected a series of joint bipartisan town halls, and said that if there’s a political knife fight, he’d bring a gun," McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds said, referring also to the Obama campaign’s shot at Carly Fiorina’s lavish pay package and role in layoffs at Hewlett-Packard.
“Why is Barack Obama so negative? In the last 24 hours, he’s completely abandoned his campaign’s call for ‘new politics,’ equating the election to a ‘brawl’ and promising to ‘bring a gun,’ " said the RNC’s Alex Conant.
I don’t think the "New Politics" is "being civil at all costs." It means "discrediting the parasites and swine who have been poisoning our discourse."
It’s not cynical to devoutly hope for this sort of result.
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Great zedding post, Thers!
thers!
the goppers aren’t gonna like the chicago way
You know. I’m starting to suspect David Brooks might be kind of a tool.
No, no, really.
probably one of them old fashioned hand cranked meat grinders
a small tool.
Absolutely spot on. Actually, I think Bobo is fielding the new GOP meme, which is that there really isn’t much difference between the two candidates. This is really their only prayer of attracting moderate or independent voters. It is, of course, a bald faced lie, normal operating procedure for the GOP, as there are very stark differences between the two candidates. They do not want those differences highlighted, however, as that would inevitably result in a blowout loss for McCain.
I have this teeny tiny screwdriver I use to tighten the screws in my glasses.
thers!
Yeah — Bobo is playing a game. That Gail Collins simpers along with it, though, is just embarrassing.
Yep.
Cynicism? In America? Never.
Excuse me while I pour some coffee in my new mug.
Five yards for gratuitous Poe reference.
I wanna give Tucker Bounds a swirly. I just do.
She is as big a tool as Bobo is. There is almost no one on the Times editorial page except Krugman who makes any sense at all any more.
hahahaha dayam, i need one of them
I just ordered myself one for father’s day.
Gosh, when was the last time we heard this crap about there wasn’t a dime’s worth of difference between the two candidates? How did that turn out, anyway?
Didn’t one of them win a Nobel Peace Prize and the other, um, didn’t?
Is that a medical device?
Anyone named Tucker should be exiled to an island somewhere.
wow, doctor recommended!
As to Brooks being a tool, I think I know what kind:
Trepanning
Actually, I take it back. Those are really pretty neat and useful tools. Maybe a cherry pitter I used once, that did the job sloppier and slower than I could with a knife.
But he does make my head hurt.
Tucker Island
Vacation land for dweeps and yoyos.
Was a propos.
Praise the Lord.
I dugg it!
I digged dugging it.
Is The Kenosha Kid still permitted here? Wow, standards have sunk.
[angryface]
I am only banned from Eli’s threads.
But I love Eli. What did ya do to Eli?
dugg and thanks teddy
i missed the earlier cynics thread, busy day, and i wanted to scream no, say it ain’t so, cynic as a word for us????????? and this is a drive by cuz i am exhausted in the good kinda way—-great day.
i have always thought/was taught that being cynical is a sign of giving up/giving in, and when i see someone doing that i know that i have won………and i’m stickin’ to it, cuz the way it’s used here, well, it’s a misuse of the english language…….
and typing this out is the last thing i wanted to do after a perfect day and a few gin and tonics with not so cynical friends…..
webster’s-
cynic-, n, One of a sect of Greek philosophers who professed conempt of riches, arts, etc., a morose man.
cynic, cynical, a., Belonging to the Cynics, surly; speering; captious.
cynicism, n. A morose contempt of the pleasures and arts of life.
so, lets be clear when we’re defining something, and call it what it is…….
i’m sure we can find a better word for what we’re trying to do here.
cynic isn’t it. at least i will never ever call myself one, and don’t want the company of anyone who would use that term to define the fine work they are doing………not yet, anyway.
and maybe i missed the point, but at least i am providing the definition of the word cynic so everyone can be reminded that it’s not a good thing……..and to be whatever else you want to be…..just not that.
nite and happy sunday in a half hour…….mine is, i got some curly mint today from a friend, didn’t know there was such a thing…….live unfolds every day.
I want to married Eli. Wait…..can’t……already married.
OT and EP’ued
http://revver.com/video/909099…..vid-james/
Kirk here is the link to the vertical algae scheme I was talking about…
we aren’t cynics. we are smart, pissed off people trying to gather together enough power and energy to protect our friends, family, planet, country, selves from hubris induced stupidity.
I want to married Eli. Wait…..can’t……already married.
It’s always the details, eh?
hola, todos
mary–good, i will sleep well knowing that……party on wayne. party on garth.
: )
It was an awesome book salon.
The Kenosha Kid does not deserve to be banned. Pantsed, yes. Banned, no.
I love the The Kenosha Kid. I want to marry The Kenosha Kid. Wait. ….
like in heaven there ain’t no beer?
Yes, it was! And I loved it.
Hey dmac!
I’m terminally pissed off. I think that sums it up just about right.
Doesn’t mean I don’t love life, I am just reacting appropriately to the outrages around me.
Whoa thats my dogs name and no way I would send him to some island…. besides he hates water. At the beach he runs from the waves… but of course the waves are bigger than him the 12lb wonder dog:>)
twas one of the best jane.
Party Chicago Style!
its 106 miles to chicago…
heh – I’ve always been convinced that if there’s a heaven, I’m just not gonna fit in…
purpose-pitch
And how are you, Jane?
Tad more than that from here, I am afraid.
Thers! gawd I love your posts! And your way with words- “it’s hard to tell where to start peeling the Onion of Suck”-
I am also trying to think of the exactly correct type of tool here- does “egg harp” do it for anyone?
hey margot-ok to be piss’d-just remember energy cannot be created or destroyed, only changed……physics law, in space and on earth…..trees, atmosphere, our bodies, our ways……can only be changed, converted……so be pissed, but let it change things……cuz it can’t create, and it can’t destroy what you want, it can only change it.
love to ya.
nite.
i’m thinking manure spreader
I stopped him. He is now persona non grata at Eschaton, thanks to my cunning plans.
I am thinking of the little man with the jackhammer in your head they used to show on cartoons when I was a kid.
Thank you kindly.
egg harp
Teddy. Did you get my video from Iceland?
uh, this is what I had in mind- ~~A frame of thin wires, designed to hold and thinly slice a hard-boiled egg.~~ or some variant thereof.
http://www.gourmetbritain.com/…..?item=1742
Well, I agree. If you see a piece of shit, you should call it a piece of shit and not a turd blossom Brooks is an operative for the rethugs, nothing more. I remember reading one of his articles in the WSJ, calling for transferring Social Security to the rich, oops, I mean ‘private accounts’. People who are in their seventies need to be allowed to work (as if there were some liberal plot to bar the elderly from the workplace), he said (and I’m paraphrasing. My memory’s not that good). I was and am appalled at Brooks’ utter cynisism.
Funny!
Are you the Teddy ?formerly known as TeddySF? Or are you a completely different Teddy?
gw- same Teddy.
Here’s another example.
Let’s see if that gets any traction.
skippy agrees w/john cole: enuff w/the canonization of st. russert already!
So does Dr. Dick. In spades. The man was another tool.
that is why an Indiana Jones marathon is a welcome relief…
I’ve managed to stay from the tube today – just turned on MSNBC and there it is again – Brokaw’s extended operata to Russert.
Slow news day.
didja spend the hottest part of the day inside a dark air conditioned theater?
I saw Matt Lauer (sp?)interviewing Darth on Today. Darth actually made the comment that Tim wasn’t into gotcha politics. I almost spit out my tea when I heard that.
Chicago.
darth wasted no time searching for a new place to control the message i see
Alternated between the pool and the cool family room with Indie Jones…
Trying to rewrite history as usual.
chicago according to lesley ann warren
Hmmph… …until Indiana Jones has the guts to call out the Islamunistofascist threat by name, I have to assume he hates America.
Egg harp, cool. My mother had one – never knew its proper name (scroogle enlightened me).
Actually Indiana Jones fights the REAL fascists….. Ya know those who tried to take over the whole world….. circa 1938-1944….
With Bill Safire, you knew you were up against an aggressive, pedantic wordsmith, a Nixonite who could set his openly partisan rhetoric aflame. David Brooks, on the other hand, is deceptive from the get go. His penny loafer smile hides his hardened wingtip politics, though Safire’s hobnailed boots were several sizes larger. Brooks’ floppy sweater attitude does reveal his followerness. But where the Times and the terminally polite Jim Lehrer imagine they’ve hired a Chicago School intellect with a community college grin, they’ve really saddled themselves with a figment of his own imagination.
The go getter researcher and writer, the whiz who can meld pop culture, history, philosophy and politics, is really a hack who gins up intellectual [sic] safety nets for an unquestioning Base. The comparisons litter the ground like carbon paper ripped from Safire’s typewriter: He’s Bill Kristol with a fact checker, Jonah Goldberg with an IQ above room temperature, or, to borrow Churchill’s caricature of Attlee, an intellectual “sheep in sheep’s clothing”.
The good news is that many of Brooks’ rhetorical devices, his straw men and false arguments, are obvious. The bad news is that in the MSM, he’s a made man, a Times columnist, and he’s paid like a AAA ball team version of Tim Russert. Given the Times’ inability to acknowledge its mistakes, he’s likely to be with us for some time to come.
I’m just kidding – I’m a big Indiana Jones fan. I’m just grumpy that I had to leave for work during the first half-hour of “Temple of Doom” tonight.
Shoot. You’ll party with the people you never could afford tickets to go see before. Fit in? ! Have no fear.
Raul Malo – Dance The Night Away
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFATvfn_V3o
friends in low places?
You’ll party with the people you never could afford tickets to go see before. Fit in? ! Have no fear.
Unless they’re goin’ the other direction.
“Pardon me, I’m with the band…”
Heading off to bed. Take care and enjoy the snark.
g’nite dr dick
Hey Sunny! Well, I used an egg harp to make egg salad just this very evening. They are very useful- good for slicing all kinds of things. Mushrooms, strawberries, etc. Yeah, I don’t know how I knew what it was called, but I did. And, the Martin campaign continues to suck eggs, btw. I am so disenamored.
Newt Gingrich is on O’Reily and just said that the Rocky Mountains has 3 times the oil that them that the Saudi’s have. Does any one know if that is correct.
I have thought for a while that the WH kept oil prices high, so they could drill all over the US for oil. In the past 3 days, I have read or heard they want to drill off the coast of Fl, in the Great Lakes, Rocky Mountains, Alaska. I also heard McCain don’t want to drill up there in Alaska. True?
Aloha Ya’ll from the Southernmost community in the US…! ;-)
Hey. I get a back stage pass to see Robert Plant.
Newt Gingrich is on O’Reily and just said that the Rocky Mountains has 3 times the oil that them that the Saudi’s have.
There’s also a commercial currently all over the teevee where some Laura Linney-lookin’ girl is talking about how the U.S. has enough oil, right here, to keep everything hunky-dory for the next 60 years.
Pisses me right off every time…
hey ct
that is way forking kewl loohoo
Who’s gonna fill-in tomorrow on MTP…?
good evening folks
hey neuro
Who’s gonna fill-in tomorrow on MTP…?
dunno. But I’d expect an hour-long round-table praising Russert.
I’ll plug that
Betting Brokaw for a couple of weeks until they get Gregory leaked and the fire subsides.
God, of course.
Hey. I get a back stage pass to see Robert Plant.
I was invited, by his brother-in-law, to a party at Plant’s house – didn’t work out though *s*
t’were
I was wondering the same thing…It could be a montage of previous work…best of type thing.
Whew, enough have certainly sang him praises…! I wouldn’t wish what he experienced on anybody , but…!
God, of course.
Who, of course, will come up way short by comparison to Timmeh.
What? What could have possibly been so urgent?
Or the gross lack of outrage around us
No no, don’t worry about that.
Now what color did you want your robes? What color feather and hat?
I heard it was going to be Brokaw, don’t know what he might have planned.
cranky…. tired…. actually I would use a word that I can’t anymore…. Bushed…. been fixing up the spare bedroom for the kid who will be house sitting….. painting…. putting in laminate flooring…. should have the floor done tomorrow…. it is like putting in legos …. snap together…
Next to Kirk on the planet taking a major dump
I’m sure if Rachel was accorded the access and the chance, She’d throw nothing but high heaters, virtually grazing their chins… What’s a soft ball…? 8-)
Dugg
hey – you’re right. I gotta get Rev-status ASAP.
Still workin’ on the holy ensemble… something flashy that doesn’t cross into pimp-y….
otoh, a simple black shirt with a priest collar would be a hoot.
And flip-flops.
Can’t forget the flip-flops…!
Thanks. Didn’t know about alternative uses – it was single purposed in our house. Intrigued me as a kid.
Really sorry about the campaign. Look for a response to your much appreciated missive from a different site. Probably not for a day or two.
Did your son arrive in Sill, safely?
just to clarify- you mean I will get mail?
You don’t need any extra status.
You are fine, just the way you are.
Well…you could use a new pair of flip flops. That’s it.
Wherever would they find enough to fill an hour?
Alright, I’ll stop now. The body’s not cool.
*grin* yes!
Did your son arrive in Sill, safely?
Still here – delayed twice just this week. Lookin’ at Monday now. And he has to get there soon, so he can complete basic in time to make it to AIT in Alabama, ’cause those classes only come around every few months.
His new MOS is 94A Land Combat Electronic Missile System Repairer.
For a kid that The Army supposedly wants so much, they’ve sure been jerking him around…
hurry up and wait is the army way
HA!
Trust me, that’s par for the course… But, wait, it only gets better… ;-)
Cool enough…! ;-)
ok – time to introduce a homie musician – Jennie Devoe. Here she is doing a Susan Tedeshi cover (she does a few covers). Her shows are part playing with the crowd – part singing – and she’s got some pipes. Music starts about 3 minutes in – don’t shut it down..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVmGjVuUkzg
Well, I might pop in on the Late, late thread… I’m on my folks’ puter…!
Here’s an interesting diary on McCane’s “tell”. When he tells a lie, his left eye blinks more than usual.
tis a good one if i do say so myself, ct
I take it you’re serving it up, eh…? ;-)
what’s saturday nite without a cartoon?
That’s right, Suz. Give us a hint?
McCain is an idiot- Clinton tried the “he’s abandoned teh new politiks, oh noes!!” and go nowhere for her trouble.
is that a rhetorical question, or are you really confused? :)
How would McBush know if he was lying….?
he has positions on all four sides of every issue….. one for, again, north and south…. he has it covered but he can’t remember from one day to the next which one is his position…. but that is ok….. WHO would report he has so many positions on a single issue?
it’s a cartoon loohoo
nice work, Thers. you are the man.
that bobo stuff is such horseshit.
Let’s not get cynical.
Mcsame is the real horseshit.
She sure can sang.
one thing he knows for sure is that his position is NOT whatever his opponent or a reporter tries to remind him that he said it was…
With those skills what will he do when he gets out? Blackwater? I was trained in Aviation Ordinance never used it.
True. He’s consistent on Iraq and health care…can’t think of anything else.
unclaimed zed upstairs
This is what a REAL President does….
Midwestern Flooding Responses: McCain Prays; Obama Grabs a Shovel!
With those skills what will he do when he gets out?
good question – the plan is, that while at AIT, he’ll take correspondence courses at night to finish his undergrad pointed toward a business degree, apply to OCS, teach what he just learned, and at the end of his 3 years, go for his MBA (which should be at least mostly paid-for by Uncle Sam).
Any other Abramoff aficionados about? I’m curious whether you think the sudden enthusiasm for getting him sentenced before the elections is significant.
I know dengre at KOS thinks it will hurt McCain. I’m suspicious.
Allright with an MBA he could be president.
Sorry I am really way out off the wall tonight. While reading the Shock Doctrine I am really getting dingy …more than usual.
OCS, grad school maybe GI Gill for Ph.D.
Just visualizing those batteries turning to target and ka boom.
From Rawstory Bush screwing with the Polar Bears Hope he meets one without the secret service!
that’s betty boop nahant and not bush
Shorter David Brooks:
Unless someone’s on the take, you can’t trust them to govern.
Now that’s cynicism.