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	<title>Comments on: Another Gift From Global Climate Change: That Ugly Weather</title>
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		<title>By: cando</title>
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		<dc:creator>cando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 05:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I appreciate your diary, Kirk.  Have just written Michael  Milstein at the Oregonian in response to his article about the oyster bacteria.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Several years ago I heard some people on TV,  Forest Service employees,  discuss that crises associated with climate change were not going to arrive slowly.  They would be sudden.  Their words are borne out. Recently three or four women, all marine scientists, were before a Congressional Committee on C-SPAN.  One was from Oregon State and all were describing what is happening to coral reefs, saying they are the canary in the coal mine in the oceans.  Coral reefs are being destroyed by man, but they are also dying from lack of oxygen and nutrients.  They discussed dead zones off the Oregon Coast, anticipated those will increase, and stated clearly, “The oceans are dying. And when the oceans die, we die.”  The planet is in crisis, oysters are also canaries, and death of the oceans is occurring exponentially.  It is disappointing to see our federal government so tied up in partisan politics that it cannot  or will not deal constructively with these environmental crises.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As you and Naomi Klein point out, “Obama’s pick for econmic adviser(s) indicate the senator is falling in with the usual murderers from the Chicago School of Economics against the rest of us.”  That is of great concern to me.  Kevin Phillips (Bad Money: Reckless Finance, Failed Politics, and The Global Crisis of American Capitalism) has simply laid out how much the financial sector has grown and how dangerous that is for the country.  Bob Rubin oversaw much of the policy that has gotten us to where we are now, and small repairs and centrist politics won’t fix what is broken. I hope Obama is getting much better economic advice than he seems to be relying on these days.  It’s going to require great communication with the public, beating off the power structure, and more courage than we’ve witnessed in a long time to create the fix.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This says it all:  “Just like with the other deadly problems we face — our broken health-care system, our starving people, the deliberate mass poisoning we call pollution, the criminal occupation of Iraq — we will have to beat up on what passes for our media and our “leaders” until they do the right thing. The first step for MSM and our elected leaders will be acknowledging the plain facts that confront all of us — and threaten our very survival.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your diary, Kirk.  Have just written Michael  Milstein at the Oregonian in response to his article about the oyster bacteria.</p>
<p>Several years ago I heard some people on TV,  Forest Service employees,  discuss that crises associated with climate change were not going to arrive slowly.  They would be sudden.  Their words are borne out. Recently three or four women, all marine scientists, were before a Congressional Committee on C-SPAN.  One was from Oregon State and all were describing what is happening to coral reefs, saying they are the canary in the coal mine in the oceans.  Coral reefs are being destroyed by man, but they are also dying from lack of oxygen and nutrients.  They discussed dead zones off the Oregon Coast, anticipated those will increase, and stated clearly, “The oceans are dying. And when the oceans die, we die.”  The planet is in crisis, oysters are also canaries, and death of the oceans is occurring exponentially.  It is disappointing to see our federal government so tied up in partisan politics that it cannot  or will not deal constructively with these environmental crises.</p>
<p>As you and Naomi Klein point out, “Obama’s pick for econmic adviser(s) indicate the senator is falling in with the usual murderers from the Chicago School of Economics against the rest of us.”  That is of great concern to me.  Kevin Phillips (Bad Money: Reckless Finance, Failed Politics, and The Global Crisis of American Capitalism) has simply laid out how much the financial sector has grown and how dangerous that is for the country.  Bob Rubin oversaw much of the policy that has gotten us to where we are now, and small repairs and centrist politics won’t fix what is broken. I hope Obama is getting much better economic advice than he seems to be relying on these days.  It’s going to require great communication with the public, beating off the power structure, and more courage than we’ve witnessed in a long time to create the fix.</p>
<p>This says it all:  “Just like with the other deadly problems we face — our broken health-care system, our starving people, the deliberate mass poisoning we call pollution, the criminal occupation of Iraq — we will have to beat up on what passes for our media and our “leaders” until they do the right thing. The first step for MSM and our elected leaders will be acknowledging the plain facts that confront all of us — and threaten our very survival.”</p>
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		<title>By: alank</title>
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		<dc:creator>alank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 05:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;La Niña has had the effect of shifting the polar jet stream northward creating the conditions for the type of weather that has emerged in China and the contiguous United States, e.g.  The severe tornadoes and rainfall in parts of the midwest among the effects of this shift.  Michigan’s eight feet of snow was a consequence of this equatorial Pacific water temperature influence, as was the snowfall in China that shutdown rail and other modes of transportation.  China has massive flooding currently issuing from influence of La Niña on the jet stream.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Global warming is about climate change, not weather events.  It is a trend in temperature attributed to human disturbances rather cyclical events such as ENSOs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>La Niña has had the effect of shifting the polar jet stream northward creating the conditions for the type of weather that has emerged in China and the contiguous United States, e.g.  The severe tornadoes and rainfall in parts of the midwest among the effects of this shift.  Michigan’s eight feet of snow was a consequence of this equatorial Pacific water temperature influence, as was the snowfall in China that shutdown rail and other modes of transportation.  China has massive flooding currently issuing from influence of La Niña on the jet stream.</p>
<p>Global warming is about climate change, not weather events.  It is a trend in temperature attributed to human disturbances rather cyclical events such as ENSOs.</p>
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		<title>By: angie</title>
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		<dc:creator>angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 04:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you for this post, Kirk.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I keep saying how astonishing it is that the Corporate Media is not reporting on this real cause and effect &lt;em&gt;at all,&lt;/em&gt; but they show us the devastation for entertainment purposes, horrid fascination, etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s disgusting, deceptive and incredibly dangerous.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess not enough folks even watched “An Inconvenient Truth” at the very least or else they just don’t want to believe their own eyes…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post, Kirk.</p>
<p>I keep saying how astonishing it is that the Corporate Media is not reporting on this real cause and effect <em>at all,</em> but they show us the devastation for entertainment purposes, horrid fascination, etc.</p>
<p>It’s disgusting, deceptive and incredibly dangerous.</p>
<p>I guess not enough folks even watched “An Inconvenient Truth” at the very least or else they just don’t want to believe their own eyes…</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 04:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kirk contact Dr.Dan Wickham dwickham at sonic dot net He has a lot of current information and is close Russian River area.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirk contact Dr.Dan Wickham dwickham at sonic dot net He has a lot of current information and is close Russian River area.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 03:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metla.fi/archive/forest/1998/08/msg00069.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.metla.fi/archive/fo.....00069.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Here is the correct link. Written in 1999 a solution that wastewater industry has turned theie collective noses to. When we had plentiful carbon sources the the present technology was developed. Now we need to adjust the tech. In northern Europe thay are using Archea an ancient samll red gram negative bacteria that does not release co2 but bypasses that release in the chemical process. zero cardom footprint!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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Here is the correct link. Written in 1999 a solution that wastewater industry has turned theie collective noses to. When we had plentiful carbon sources the the present technology was developed. Now we need to adjust the tech. In northern Europe thay are using Archea an ancient samll red gram negative bacteria that does not release co2 but bypasses that release in the chemical process. zero cardom footprint!</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk James Murphy, M.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk James Murphy, M.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 03:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/14/BAD1119FHI.DTL&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;It’s a June fire in August conditions&lt;/a&gt;,” said Division Chief Dan Sendek of the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“<a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/14/BAD1119FHI.DTL" rel="nofollow">It’s a June fire in August conditions</a>,” said Division Chief Dan Sendek of the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeBuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeBuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 03:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We’ve had two large wildfires in the Santa Cruz Mountains (which form the southwest side of Silicon Valley) and it’s only mid-June; usually it isn’t dry enough to see big fires until late August or September.  There was a fine coating of ash on my car this morning, though the fire is on the other side of the mountain from my house, about 25 miles away.  While they have this one contained, it’s going to be a long, dry summer.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’ve had two large wildfires in the Santa Cruz Mountains (which form the southwest side of Silicon Valley) and it’s only mid-June; usually it isn’t dry enough to see big fires until late August or September.  There was a fine coating of ash on my car this morning, though the fire is on the other side of the mountain from my house, about 25 miles away.  While they have this one contained, it’s going to be a long, dry summer.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 03:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;link&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metla.fi/archive/forest/1998/08/msg00097.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.metla.fi/archive/fo.....00097.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>link<br /><a href="http://www.metla.fi/archive/forest/1998/08/msg00097.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.metla.fi/archive/fo&#8230;..00097.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: CarolynU</title>
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		<dc:creator>CarolynU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 03:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I also recomend downsizing consuption. The consumer economy demands a huge carbon footprint. Reuse water, recycle and stop frivolous consumption.&lt;br /&gt;
It’s not the economy stupid its the planet!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well said.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I also recomend downsizing consuption. The consumer economy demands a huge carbon footprint. Reuse water, recycle and stop frivolous consumption.<br />
It’s not the economy stupid its the planet!</p>
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<p>Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: CarolynU</title>
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		<dc:creator>CarolynU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 03:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;birds announced the humongous black snack crossing my yard last week - charcoal grey and about 2 inches in diameter and maybe 10 - 12 feet long.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jeez, I like snakes, but I would have to keep a respectful distance from a 12 foot snake.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And about the deer Greenwarrior?  You realize what you consider your “back yard” is what the deer consider their “snack cabinet”?   ; )&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good luck with the neigbors!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>birds announced the humongous black snack crossing my yard last week &#8211; charcoal grey and about 2 inches in diameter and maybe 10 &#8211; 12 feet long.</p>
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<p>Jeez, I like snakes, but I would have to keep a respectful distance from a 12 foot snake.</p>
<p>And about the deer Greenwarrior?  You realize what you consider your “back yard” is what the deer consider their “snack cabinet”?   ; )</p>
<p>Good luck with the neigbors!</p>
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