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	<title>Comments on: FISA:  What&#8217;s In It For Steny?</title>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/13/fisa-whats-in-it-for-steny/#comment-1496178</link>
		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why would any senator bring a bill to the floor to be voted on that could put them, other senators, representative, governors, etc. in jeopardy of being spied on?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Blackmail or money is the only reason I can think of.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would any senator bring a bill to the floor to be voted on that could put them, other senators, representative, governors, etc. in jeopardy of being spied on?</p>
<p>Blackmail or money is the only reason I can think of.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinHayden</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/13/fisa-whats-in-it-for-steny/#comment-1495825</link>
		<dc:creator>KevinHayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think we should re-frame the term ‘Blue Dog’. I think Yellow Dog Dem is apropos because they’re afraid to be Democrats.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I think we all need to be careful in weighing our Reps. They can be nice guys &amp; gals early on and sell out later and do more damage than good. Rockefeller and Hoyer should recognize that resting on their laurels is a short term pastime, not a retirement plan. Unless they wish to be retired very, very soon.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To me, this is in the top ten worst deals for the country done by a president in my first 55 years. The others were Vietnam, Iraq, the Nixon games we thought the Church Commission had cured, two failures to intervene in African genocides (Rwanda/Darfur), Iran Contra, Valerie Plame, failing to get Bin Laden and the cronyism/financial shenanigans that have gone on in Iraq.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s really that bad and no Dem should be cut any slack on such a critical question.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we should re-frame the term ‘Blue Dog’. I think Yellow Dog Dem is apropos because they’re afraid to be Democrats.</p>
<p>And I think we all need to be careful in weighing our Reps. They can be nice guys &amp; gals early on and sell out later and do more damage than good. Rockefeller and Hoyer should recognize that resting on their laurels is a short term pastime, not a retirement plan. Unless they wish to be retired very, very soon.</p>
<p>To me, this is in the top ten worst deals for the country done by a president in my first 55 years. The others were Vietnam, Iraq, the Nixon games we thought the Church Commission had cured, two failures to intervene in African genocides (Rwanda/Darfur), Iran Contra, Valerie Plame, failing to get Bin Laden and the cronyism/financial shenanigans that have gone on in Iraq.</p>
<p>It’s really that bad and no Dem should be cut any slack on such a critical question.</p>
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		<title>By: J.Irons</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.Irons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wrong thread, sorry.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong thread, sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: J.Irons</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/13/fisa-whats-in-it-for-steny/#comment-1495711</link>
		<dc:creator>J.Irons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Some people think Tim Russert was Cheney’s go-to guy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/25/AR2007012501951_pf.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....51_pf.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people think Tim Russert was Cheney’s go-to guy.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/25/AR2007012501951_pf.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/&#8230;..51_pf.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: SunnyNobility</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/13/fisa-whats-in-it-for-steny/#comment-1495273</link>
		<dc:creator>SunnyNobility</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Proposed Hoyer legal standard for immunity:  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Telco (and anyone else involved):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;“the president asked us to do this illegal act and here’s the letter   saying so” &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Court:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;“ok, you’ve established you are immune under the statute, next case“&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Plaintiff:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;“but, but, they &lt;strong&gt;knew&lt;/strong&gt; it was illegal and we can’t find out what they did with our business secrets”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Court:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;“next case”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proposed Hoyer legal standard for immunity:  </p>
<p>Telco (and anyone else involved):<br /><em>“the president asked us to do this illegal act and here’s the letter   saying so” </em></p>
<p>Court:<br /><em>“ok, you’ve established you are immune under the statute, next case“<br /></em></p>
<p>Plaintiff:<br /><em>“but, but, they <strong>knew</strong> it was illegal and we can’t find out what they did with our business secrets”</em></p>
<p>Court:<br /><em>“next case”</em></p>
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		<title>By: SunnyNobility</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/13/fisa-whats-in-it-for-steny/#comment-1495122</link>
		<dc:creator>SunnyNobility</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/hoyer-earns-trust-with-house-gop-2008-04-15.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hoyer Earns Trust With House GOP&lt;/a&gt;, per The Hill.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Isn’t that special.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/hoyer-earns-trust-with-house-gop-2008-04-15.html" rel="nofollow">Hoyer Earns Trust With House GOP</a>, per The Hill.  </p>
<p>Isn’t that special.</p>
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		<title>By: DrBong</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/13/fisa-whats-in-it-for-steny/#comment-1495114</link>
		<dc:creator>DrBong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m still on, like # 6&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Slow reader&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m still on, like # 6</p>
<p>Slow reader</p>
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		<title>By: DrBong</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/13/fisa-whats-in-it-for-steny/#comment-1495111</link>
		<dc:creator>DrBong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jeez, Christy&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ya think you own this place or somthin’?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Slow down, wouldja?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;;~P&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez, Christy</p>
<p>Ya think you own this place or somthin’?</p>
<p>Slow down, wouldja?</p>
<p>;~P</p>
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		<title>By: jackie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/13/fisa-whats-in-it-for-steny/#comment-1495110</link>
		<dc:creator>jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;They are really, really, really worried about getting this passed and passed soon..&lt;br /&gt;
Hmmmm, we must be getting really close to the bits they don’t what us to know/see/use against them in a court of law etc..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are really, really, really worried about getting this passed and passed soon..<br />
Hmmmm, we must be getting really close to the bits they don’t what us to know/see/use against them in a court of law etc..</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/13/fisa-whats-in-it-for-steny/#comment-1495093</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Steny must be hangin’ with the homies in the lobby and lining his pockets to step on toes like this.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe it’s one last favor the way Trent Lott did, just before retiring.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is Hoyer having trouble winning re-election?&lt;br /&gt;
Raising funds?&lt;br /&gt;
Other?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or, maybe Hoyer thinks this will win him friends and favor in a bid for the Speakership next time ’round.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Steny must be hangin’ with the homies in the lobby and lining his pockets to step on toes like this.</p>
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<p>Maybe it’s one last favor the way Trent Lott did, just before retiring.</p>
<p>Is Hoyer having trouble winning re-election?<br />
Raising funds?<br />
Other?</p>
<p>Or, maybe Hoyer thinks this will win him friends and favor in a bid for the Speakership next time ’round.</p>
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