hahahaahahhahah!!!!!!!!!

That’s the money quote for the female vote!

Oh, and congrats! That’s hot!

Suh-weeeeet!

I’m sorry that Jon didn’t note that you had three confirmations that the incident occurred; he’d have worked in the laugh line anyway.

Anyway, my mommy-heart is smiling for you. Huzzah!

Booyah!!! Go Cliff!! Remember us little people, ok?

Congratulations, Cliff. Can we all ride your coattails to fame?

I want my book autographed

That’s wonderful, Cliff!

Well, they say all publicity is good as long as they spell your name right! Write? Congrats, Cliff! Way to go!

OT, but is it my imagination, or did Dennis’ Articles of Impeachment already make it beyond where I thought they would. The floor voted to send them to committee by 251-166. Raw Story says 24 Rethugs joined “nearly all” Democrats voted for sending the Articles to Committee. I wonder what would happen if, instead of assuming a defeatist attitude, Dennis’ efforts got serious support from the citizens. Have all of us written our letters yet? I have, but now I’ll have to adapt it to the Judiciary Committee. I want them to consider these Articles seriously.

Way to go, Cliff!

And in more of reality, ain’t it a bee-yotch….

EPU-ed from last FDL thread tail, since the cables/nets are all “ooooh, Oklahoma Congressman won’t endorse Obama…” Read this via HuffPo. Karma strikes:
S’pose the cables/networks will give as much attention to New Gang of 14 GOP Congressional Group refuses to back McCain as they give the OK Boren re Obama story?

congrats Cliff !

o/t

Breaking at MSNBC site -

SCOTUS sides with foreigners detained at Gitmo

via SCOTUS blog -

Court gives detainees habeas rights
Thursday, June 12th, 2008 10:08 am | Lyle Denniston | Comments Off | Print This Post

In a stunning blow to the Bush Administration in its war-on-terrorism policies, the Supreme Court ruled Thursday that foreign nationals held at Guantanamo Bay have a right to pursue habeas challenges to their detention. The Court, dividing 5-4, ruled that Congress had not validly taken away habeas rights

in your face Cheney !

SCOTUS Blog

OT - waxman committee business meeting on latest abramoff report has just started (webstream). so far just stupid opening statement. don’t know if it will get better….

excellent news!

standing on chair clapping …. way to go Cliff…

To quote Lenard Clark (you know who he is)….. “We need to show the world the real Bloody John McCain”

re: hearing - already over. that was a waste of time.

I read that the usual suspects, Scalia, Thomas, Alito and Roberts voted against giving these prisoners Habeas Corpus rights. So much for “strict constructionists” who do not rewrite the laws.

Amen sista Ann -

busy googling as this decision has direct and immediate impact on Gitmo Kangaroo Court - brb

Thanks for all the kind words guys. It is a great moment for the book, but also let’s make sure we keep getting the message out there on who McCain really is, or The Real McCain, if you’ll allow me….

And thanks for reading. It is very much appreciated!

Cliff

Congrats, Cliff! I cheered for you when it appeared!

woo hoo cliff - excellent clip. congrats!

McCain’s problem is just that he just can’t say the letter “B” — it’s been a problem for him since he was a sboolboy….what a silly bunt.

SCOTUS sides with foreigners detained at Gitmo

this is SUPPOSED to read;

“scoutus sides with innocent people held and tortured for no reason what so ever”

Congratulations Cliff.

Also, MSNBC reporting Supreme Court rules this morning that Guantanamo detainees have rights under US Constitution 5-4.

O My…are we having a confluence of good news? Almost breathing again. Thanks

In a stunning blow to the Bush Administration in its war-on-terrorism policies, the Supreme Court ruled Thursday that foreign nationals held at Guantanamo Bay have a right to pursue habeas challenges to their detention

what the HELL is stunning about having to follow the frigging war?

this president wants to commit crimes as if he is above the law, that is indeed the definition of a terrorist

but that’s my point how subliminal the entire right wing media is

what KIND of nerve do they have saying that is “stunning”?

what the HELL is “stunning” about it?

Cliff - I noted yesterday that Fred Schaeffer(Frank?) had an opinion piece on HuffPo and referred to McNobrain as ‘a cad’ — that McCain may make claims to carrying on military honor…and hold to ‘no wounded man left behind’ but that he left his wounded wife behind. A cad - now there’s a word we haven’t heard a whole lot of for a very long time.

what the HELL is “stunning” about it?

that by the margin of one vote (5-4?), the supreme court has told the congress and the executive to go to hell?

Much as I’m impressed and ready to do a happy dance that the majority opinion of the SC has decided to recognize that you cannot legally take Habeas Corpus away from people for periods of long duration or for frivolous reasons, I have to wonder how this will effect the elections. We know that we’ve been discussing the SC in terms of women’s rights, abortion rights, workers rights, civil rights, and of course, this decision was based on a civil right. I would go so far as to say, the ultimate civil right. But I wonder if many on the right will portray this as why they need to have that one more at least choice of a justice. I’m sure they’ll portray it as giving the rights to prisoners who are trying to kill you. Will this be a net positive for our side or for theirs?

WTG, Cliff!!!!!
So, when’s the big interview?
When the “Stewart people” call you, be sure and let us know!
Great youtube!

Selise - I have this vision of those five members of SCOTUS checking up with one anther on a daily basis for their health reports - and hearing “Not dead yet”(thank goodness).

uh mah gaia . . .

in his brief to the Court, Solicitor General Paul Clement -

Mr Clement said in his brief to the court that the US does not own Guantanamo Bay and therefore the writ of habeas corpus does not run there.

Paul Clement - Acme, Class of 98

that by the margin of one vote (5-4?), the supreme court has told the congress and the executive to go to hell?

good point, it’s stunning ANYONE on scotus voted against habeas protection, it’s stunning and depraved

First of all, the Supreme Court seems to have held that the Congress took away Habeas from these prisoners improperly; secondly, the court overturned a lower court that held that the prisoners didn’t have a right to claim Habeas Corpus. My guess would be that they considered overturning the lower court ruling stunning.

In dissent, Chief Justice John Roberts criticized his colleagues for striking down what he called “the most generous set of procedural protections ever afforded aliens detained by this country as enemy combatants.”

http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin.....mo.html?hp

Looks like Roberts is trying to firm up his credentials as the Court’s leading fascist. Scalia, Alito, and Thomas have some real competition now.

sorry for all the o/t Cliff - does it help to mention I have written TDS about a dozen times wrt The Real McCain ?:D

via AP -

The court said not only that the detainees have rights under the Constitution, but that the system the administration has put in place to classify them as enemy combatants and review those decisions is inadequate.

boo-f’in-yah!

i was stunned by how many dems voted for the MCA - congress’ attempt to deny habeas to gitmo prisoners. the whole thing is just stunning to me.

My guess would be that they considered overturning the lower court ruling stunning

it’s just stunning to me the issue was even in question, of course a president can’t hold innocent people, of course he can’t write new law to keep people who commited no crime to remain in jail, of course a person can show they commited no crime.

it is insulting, the very notion that a president can gather you up, not tell you what foolishness he thinks you commited, not give you the right to show you did not commit that foolishness, and keep you there under the threat of torture

the very notion is disgusting

still roflmdfhao!

this puts our good friend McStain in a bind - remember his little dance around MCA - are you for or against habeus, McCandidate ?!?!?

BTW the slip opinion is not yet up at the SCOTUS site.

The court said not only that the detainees have rights under the Constitution, but that the system the administration has put in place to classify them as enemy combatants and review those decisions is inadequate.

Sounds like the Court decided that the only defendants worthy to be tried in kangaroo courts are kangaroos.

i was stunned by how many dems voted for the MCA - congress’ attempt to deny habeas to gitmo prisoners. the whole thing is just stunning to me.

I was stunned at how Harry Reid connived with Bill Frist to make sure they could vote on the MCA before the 2006 elections while the Republicans were still in the majority.

yeah, it’s comforting to know he’s Chief Justice from now until forever, not.

Hey, Cliff
I saw your interview on TDS. Ya were teh awesome. Well Done!
FunnyD

Christy’s on this back at the mother ship

In dissent, Chief Justice John Roberts criticized his colleagues for striking down what he called “the most generous set of procedural protections ever afforded aliens detained by this country as enemy combatants.”

what a depraved maggot

and of course he fails to mention the president can detain anyone he pleases as “an enemy combatant”, a lovers husband, a business competitor, a brothers rival

what a frigging magot…robers is a fascist frigging maggot

Stay classy, Cliff. What a POS story about McCain. About as true as the Michelle Obama videotape that no one has seen.

just for you perris

courtesy cousin tbogg

How about womanizer. I’m sure you’ve heard that word a lot, and that is what McSame is. Have you also heard that Wesley Clark attempted to impeach McBush’s military creds yesterday? Apparently he’s done it before. Personally, I wish more of this. The guy was fifth from the bottom in his graduating class, he proceeded to wreck a lot of planes before he wrecked another one that got him captured and held as a POW in Vietnam. I don’t think he’s had the responsibility of any military planning or any strategic thinking along military lines. They say well, he’s been a ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, so that’s the highest extent of his military credentials in my book. It’s better than nothing, but it’s not as good as someone who had actual planning experience and did more than go where he was told and drop bombs. But that’s just me.

I love this part, per Scotusblog:

If Congress wishes to suspend habeas, it must do so only as the Constitution allows — when the country faces rebellion or invasion.

Gee, so nice to see someone following the Constitution and not legislating from the bench!

now if we can photo shop some crow on that plate it would be perfect

wouldest thou perchance a linque? thou hast made beautiful words…
nay, there be a senate record online at yea senate website, innit?

man oh man this is a sickness -

just finished listening to 16 minutes of Federalist Society prognostication of this case by one Bradford Berenson -

they were correct in that it would fall to Justice Kennedy

but I got the talking points - are ya ready ?

Justice Kennedy’s lean towards habeus would bring “a modest lost to executive’s gwot” - (um, not so much)

and - would create “anomalous circumstance” where in terrorism detainees at Gitmo would have “superior rights to those of even traditional defendants in the civilian justice system” in that they would have both habeus and the dc circuit court provisions of MCA”

IOW - ‘Activist justices give babykillers more rights than you!’

ps - that whole listening to the Federalist thingy - I blame that Hamsher woman

Mr. Furman, uh, McCain, Have you ever used the “n” word, uh, the “c” word?

Cindy just wants it to be known that she forgot to say on The View that with over a hundred million in beer money, she can put on enough L’Oreal and mascara to be a Freddie Krueger clone every day if she feels like it.

Congrats, Cliff! It figures that I missed it when it happened.

Their next move will be to have you on as a guest. Congrats Cliff, your lucky bobblefoot must be working!

- Tom