Last week, I wrote about a David Brooks column in which he claimed,
The Obama people are too convinced that they can define McCain as Bush III. The case is just factually inaccurate.
I went on to cite numerous of examples of how wrong this was, highlighting Bush-McSame agreements on Iraq, the economy, health care, taxes, etc. That was all a mistake.
I should’ve just linked to this McSame quote from "Meet The Russert":
I–the fact is that I’m different but the fact is that I have agreed with President Bush far more than I have disagreed. And on the transcendent issues, the most important issues of our day, I’ve been totally in agreement and support of President Bush.
My bad.
HuffPo has the video here.



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McVain claims that he does not use a computer, that his sugar-mamma does. I guess she hasn’t figured out YouTube yet.
So, Blue Texan! Hope you don’t mind a question about the Habeas Corpus ruling, cause I’m about to ask one.
they can slice him, dice him, steam, broil or bake him, but in the end, McCain really IS four more years…of Bush and Cheney.
Ah BT – but then again, you give far too much credit to BoBo in the first place – seeing as how he’s usually wrong about most everything he tries to write about.
And here’s hoping sugartits doesn’t figure out YouTube.
BC
I have to disagree with Blue Texan on this one McCain is not Bush III. Older and more tired, he can’t get it up to be much more than Bush II 1/2.
Okay, you got me rooked in. First I have to comment as a McSame constituent that he’s been hugging Bush and Bush issues to the nth degree. As far as I was concerned, the clearest sign was when he even turned his back to allow torture, and now he’s even turned his back on taking care of the troops as far as I’m concerned.
Now for my Habeas question. Earlier I was watching either CNN or MSNBC, and they said that this is not the first time the Supreme Court has ruled against the Bush Administration, it’s the third, which I think we all knew. But they said that the other two times the Congress has just promulgated new laws to replace the ones that were ruled against. To a degree, I believe that’s true, but this time they basically told Congress that you cannot suspend Habeas Corpus indefinitely throughout an endless undeclared war. There must be either an insurgency in the country (rebellion) or an imminent threat from outside the country to the homeland. So it seems to me it would be difficult for Congress to write a law to circumvent this aspect of the law no matter what the geography is. No?
I do recall a lecture from W when he managed to say something like: Words matter, words mean something. I know, he forgot; someone had merely given him a speech about words. But I do believe that we cannot stand 4 more years of a Pres. who cannot put a coherent thought together, likes the idea of shoot from the hip, govern by one’s gut…the idiots, addicts, non compis mentes should not get the keys to the car.
And McSame is even saying that there’s a place in his cabinet for Darth.
Not sure if there’s a place for Incurious George, since Foole is not an official cabinet post. Even if he’s currently filling that slot…
BC
That’s how it reads to me, Anne.
While I’m neither a lawyer nor a congresscritter, I can’t imagine that Pelosi, Reid and Companies are going to be the least bit interested in bailing BushCo out of this fine mess they’ve gotten themselve into.
And actually they were more specific than ‘imminent threat from outside.’ The Constitution says ‘invasion’, and shorter Kennedy: “invasion means invasion.” Scalia should like that bit of constitutional interpretation. But we know he doesn’t.
BC
In Hamdan the Court told the Executive, Look you can’t set up tribunals on your own. Congress has to sanction them.” So Bush went to Congress and the result was the Military Commissions Act. In Boumediene, the Court said the Congress got it wrong re habeas in both the Detainee Treatment Act (because there was no adequate substitute to habeas) and the MCA (because it unConstitutionally stripped habeas out). This time there is no work around. The Court told Bush that detainees have habeas rights, period.
There would be an easy way to refute the “Bush III” characterization — all McCain would have to do is give some clear statements on where he differs from Bush’s policies. The reason it works so well is that McCain wants to claim to be all mavericky (to get independent votes) while not actually saying anything is wrong with Bush (to avoid alienating the 28-percenters.) So he’s reduced to having surrogates declare that it’s false without substantiating that in any way, which just reinforces it.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy…
I dunno, McCain always struck me as a maverick in the same way a loose cannon is.
And now W looks like he is pouting while he says he does not agree with the opinion…no one asks him what Law School he went to ;) We can all tell you which one did not accept him. Actually the same one where Scott McClellan’s grand dad was the Dean. Smart man there.
Way cool! Thanks for confirming my interpretation, Hugh. (So glad he let the Congress know that they are also overreaching as surrogates for the President!)
And since no man with a sphincter wound that tight can possibly be called a “loose cannon…”
Not to challenge, but how do you know about that small detail?
I don’t want the answer to that question
I don’t know. I think McSame could be like beta-Bush. Not quite a finished program and still has major bugs to work out.
Bush had purpose in his incompetent maladministraton. Destroy this. Eliminate that. Create this to destroy that. McSame just seems confused and has no goals except to get elected apparently. Bush/Cheney have goals. Oh yes, they have goals.
Wow, of course you are right…and thanks for a great laugh.
And Newshour having a good Habeas conversation.
Gawd, I turned it on and who do I see…Rivkin…barf.
BushCo is just proof that we should never, never, ever elect anyone to office whose core belief is that government is incompetent to do anything.
That’s just a self-fulfilling prophecy. They f*ck it up, and it becomes another example for them to cite to demonstrate their core belief.
BC
Earlier it was Coyle, giving a history of Habeas that “goes back centuries”
“One of the worst decisions ever…the sheer judicial arrogance…” Rivkin
I’m watching it now. WATB Rivkin is moaning about that this is the worst decision he’s seen. He then proceeds to make up a bunch of shit to back up his point.
He is very effective at getting my hackles up.
Former official for Reagan and Bush. Do those recommendations impress you?
Yeah, more loose cannon than maverick, I’m afraid!
Right now Hardball is going through the stay or go thing about the war in Iraq. Just yesterday I read something that explained that the Iraqi’s are currently getting quite serious about asking us to stay on our military bases and don’t get off of them unless they’re asked. They are also mulling over asking us to leave entirely. I’m talking about the current government that is coming to the conclusion that they’d be better off without us. I’m sure that we do owe them some form of reparations, but I feel this does not include having our contractors there taking jobs that the Iraqis actually need to feed their families. It’s like we think they didn’t ever have a country before we got there, yet they’ve had enterprise in Iraq for thousands of years in the cradle of civilization. I think the contractors should be the first to go, the sooner the better. Then maybe we wouldn’t have to continue to pay both sides to keep from killing the contractors. In any case, McCain just is not going to get us anywhere near getting either our contractors out or our military out. What I can’t figure out is, where is he going to continue to get the military to keep permanent bases there?
Back to BT…it amazing to monitor how McBush blows with the wind…No one can figure out what the hell he thinks about anything, because he thinks a million different versions of everything, depending on who is asking…but it all leads back to McBush being led by the nose by Bushco. McBush = McBushco.
I should say that his judicial arrogance is indigestible. He is so frikkin’ annoying.
Alzheimer’s is apparently a wonderful thing in a political candidate.
Apprently it’s contagious too since so many in the media have caught it.
That’s just intellectual laziness. Easy mistake.
Keep at it. I’ve got to leave this levity for awhile. I hope I can remember where Im going. Cheers.
Are we talking about McSame being intellectually lazy or the media? I guess both could be true … though there’s more evidence for the media than for McSame. At least thus far.
I meant the media. I’m prepared to accept that McCain is an idiot.
Yes, and not just any kind of idiot but a stipulated idiot.
In fairness, it appears that McSame has actually read a couple of books that aren’t in four-color process and don’t have any pictures in them.
McCain I heard has some grateful backing from Hispanics after his tolerant immigration stance. Shift of some Hispanic voters from Hillary to McCain. What is McCain’s PRESENT immigration stance I wonder. Does it match his old one. Wonder if this is a prob for Obama. Sounded like it from a radio program.