According to Mark Potok at Hatewatch, the country's white supremacists are actually looking forward to the prospect of Barack Obama winning the presidency -- but only because they're certain he will fail:
It’s not that the assortment of neo-Nazis, Klansmen, anti-Semites and others who make up this country’s radical right have suddenly discovered that a man should be judged based on the content of his character, not his skin. On the contrary. A growing number of white supremacists, and even some of those who pass for intellectual leaders of their movement, think that a black man in the Oval Office would shock white America, possibly drive millions to their cause, and perhaps even set off a race war that, they hope, would ultimately end in Aryan victory.
“He will make things so bad for white people that hopefully they will finally realize how stupid they were for admiring these jigaboos all these years,” “Darthvader” wrote on the neo-Nazi Vanguard News Network web forum. “I believe in the motto ‘Worse is Better’ and Obama certainly fits that description.” Just last week, Ron Doggett, a Virginian who has been a key activist in the Klan, the paramilitary White People’s Party and the neo-Nazi National Alliance, chimed in with this: “I hope Obama wins because in four years, white people just might be pissed off enough to actually do something. … White people aren’t going to do a thing until their toys are taken away from them. So things have to be worse for things to be better.”
“Oh man,” enthused “Centimanus” on the white nationalist Stormfront website. “I am gleefully, sadistically looking forward to Obama as president. … It will be a beautiful day when the masses look at the paper and truly realize they have lost their own country. Added “Fulimnata”: “To the average white man and woman, they could look at Obama and see plain as day that whites are not in control.” Another message, from “TheLastOfMyKind,” agreed: “Could it be that the nomination of Obama finally sparks a sense of unity in white voters? I would propose that this threat of black, muslim [sic] rule may very well be the thing that finally scares some sense back into complacent whites throughout the nation.” “Actually,” said another poster, “if Obama were to win, it would be the best thing that ever happened to the Klan. They would have massive growth.” And “TeutonicLegion” said that “a whole bunch of people will join us and find these boards” if Obama becomes president.
Strangely (well, perhaps not that strangely), this is remarkably similar to the line of thinking promoted a couple of months ago by NRO's John Derbyshire, when he urged readers to "Imagine an Obama presidency overwhelmed and floundering" and predicted: "Nonblacks will flee from the Democrats in droves, though. A Republican landslide in the 2010 midterms (think 1994); a clear GOP victory in 2012 (think 1980)."
Of course, none of them seem to have considered the prospect of what will happen if an Obama presidency succeeds -- which, I guess, should be expected, considering their blind spots. Especially the ramifications for improving black-white race relations and the succeeding diminution of old-style white supremacy and its irrational, obsessive hatefulness.
But believe me, a lot of us have.
Of course, it's easy to dismiss such "analysis" as mere racist ranting, but there's also a significant element of self-fulfilling prophecy to the vitriol. That is, these folks have every intent of doing their damnedest to see find a way to make Obama's presidency fail.
If you thought the far right went nuts in the 1990s -- when the Democratic president was a white Southern male -- just wait till there's a President Obama. Progressives should be bracing for it.
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Fritzdom!
Indeed. And FTFY!
Are they that twisted in their logic…?
great post david (putting on kevlar and nomex)
parallel thread on gabbly for those who want to comment on TDS and TCR without spoiling the thread here.works better on Firefox than Safari for those on macs.
Good evening, David.
Never afraid to tackle the tough stuff.
the new zed? whassit mean?
Hi hi hi hi hi hi hi firepups!
Heh, my favorite motto… FTFY!!!
Dave…
could you please stop with this implying that “if you think Obama is not qualified, you’re a racist” crap?
Just when you think the stupidity has hit an all time high, you find out they haven’t even scratched the surface. Fucking ridiculous.
Impeach the Mother F****** Already.
There is a full line of t-shirts, bumper stickers etc available here.
David- are you saying/ prediciting that the White Supremacists will vote for Obama?
Watch out for the super glue, Suz! ;-)
hahahahaha thanks :)
Yo, Dave. Amazing how they fail to see that the most qualified candidate might succeed. Nice to see that the “mainstream” wingers are revealing their racist stripes as well. Normally they are pretty good at hiding that.
Well, they are right about one thing — the next President is going to have the worst challenges on his desk of any in modern memory. Fucking up is gonna be really, really hard to avoid. But it’s because of the mess being left by the rotten son of privilege currently at the helm.
And as I watch Barack Obama begin to navigate the general election, I have great hope in his skills.
Uh, you are being a bit paranoid in your read of the piece, methinks.
don’t know that one. What’s it mean?
Makes me all tingly when the preacher swears! What’s with the ***s, Rev? It’s LATE NITE.
Not trying to speak for David but the post implies yes, in order for the Klan to grow their membership.
F The F-ing Yankees, in honor of Gilliard.
Teenagers in the house.
True, comparable to what FDR faced…!
AAAAHHHHHHH yes.
To Steve! (she says lifting a glass) Miss him lots!
oh please! i live on a fuckin’ military base! i go to HS!
ITMFA
I din’t know either, had to get out the Urban Dictionary this morning.
*clink*
Grownup site
laughing
You tell ‘em, miss.
I learned all my best cuss words at Ft. Hood in Junior High. That would be Middle School to you youngins. *g*
Tsk, tsk, how unpresidential, Missie…! ;-)
dugg
Thank you Suz-
Dugg back!
Hey, Rev, what’ll it take to get Fast Eddie Rendell to make a Stricklandesque statement about being Obama’s Veep? I’d sure like to get that sly one out of the running.
Ok folks and good pups you know you can Digg this post for David… He wrote us A very fine post tonight so please do your part and Digg it!!
2 weeks ago I did a sermon about universal salvation and did a reading from “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God” a really angry hellfire and damnation screed from Jonathan Edwards in 1741 or so. We had a new person who brought her granddaughter who must have been about 6 or 7 and it was at the 11:00 service when we don’t have Sunday School so she sat through the service. I welcomed her from the pulpit and told her in front of everyone that I would beusing language that might be a little scary and I didn’t mean it. Afterwards we talked and I said to her that she probably hadn’t heard many ministers use so many swear words to which she nodded her head. I assured her that we didn’t do that very often and it was only to talk about how we are different and don’t believe in such things as hell and damnation.
Cute kid. Grandma must have done some explaining because they came back last Sunday.
David, thanks for looking at one of the ugliest sewers in America and letting us know what stirs there.
you duplicated dood.. see my 36 (fyi, your dig has a 2 at the end which is an indicated of a duplicate)
i know that you had to post their comments to give us a view into their clueless minds, but it is still hurtful to read.
You’d think by now they’d have noticed that we aren’t having race wars, the way they’ve been predicting for the last - what? forty years?
If ignorance really were bliss, these guys should be in seventh heaven.
Yeah, and wow. Doesn’t the guy in the picture look likes he’s wearing a Tin Foil Hat?
Imagine if you’d had used some of Cotton Mather’s sermons…! ;-)
How is the cute kitty?
Fine post, Dave!
(Though hearing about Derbyshire’s strange (well, not that strange) imaginings might not make for the most restful night of sleep . . .)
My personal favorite sewer monitor. Personally don’t think I could do it, but it damn sure needs to be done.
Good for you.
You have been called. And, you speak the truth.
Hmm Obama is half white but …..
Ah shit I clicked the link and it said no one had dugg it so I dugg it… but if you click on the link above it goes {or it did } to my digg! Go figure LQQK what happens when you try and do some good:>)
Try 140 years or more. All the way back to the beginnings of slavery. Free the N*****s and race wars and the destruction of civilization are immanent.
We got part of that one in American literature in HS. It’s easier to understand where he was coming from, after reading Albion’s Seed, but it’s still hard to take. Some of the things they did, we’d probably call child abuse.
i always do an fdl refresh and retry the dig before i push the ‘totally swear honest’ button
i’ve found faster diggers can be found that way
She is doing very well, Cass. She is playing at the moment (sort of batting mr wobb’s ears-hehehe.
Say it LOUD!
Let us just say tonight’s Daily Show is sublime.
G’night, pups.
Don’t like either of them
What about the pic’s ya promised us…? Hmmm…? ;-)
thanks and g’nite prairie
Maybe they came back for more dirty words.
Great story.
she posted em last night or the night before.. where were you?
Good night Prairie
‘nite Prairie Sunshine, sweet dreams.
There’s a super gigantic one at the treehouse from yesterday.
(bows) Konnichiwa, Wobbs
nite prairie
appreciate it
I was around for some of the late threads…!
If you want an antidote to Derbyshire, just check out the video I put atop that post (link here).
Yes, that really is Derbyshire getting his ass kicked by Bruce Lee. He’s the skinny guy in the striped shirt.
g’nite, prairie: sweet dreams!
Thanx, Cassie, I’ll go look for it…!
I have just often wondered what horrrible thing did africans do to be on the receiving end of so much hate and disdain. What did their descendents (around the world) do to continue to be the target of such vitirol?
The main key to doing this work is keeping your sense of humor and recognizing when these clowns are good for a laugh. Which actually is not all that infrequent.
They came back with the little girl’s dad. It was the Coming of Age class complete with rock band service. Let’s just say a unique experience.
Here’s kittybits.
LMAO!!
Now I can sleep peacefully, indeed.
They did nothing. They are vicitims of ignorance and stupidity.
Was it in the comments? I didn’t see them in the posts…
A good question.
Heavy.
We all wonder why sometimes.
That is the Really Big Question.
How did I get here?
The hard part for me is not starting happy hour at 2:30 in the afternoon. Like I did today during the Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran post.
Amen.
The same holds true for me as I listen to the TheoCon wingnuts holding forth on religion. Keeping a sense of humor is essential to not losing one’s mind, and it also is a refreshing way to maintain your own sense of perspective.
They had the audacity to insist that they were also human and deserving of respect and decency.
Aww… I just love her pink nose…! ;-)
Also, dear wobbly, you might enjoy reading The Temple Of My Familiar by Alice Walker.
Keeping a sense of humor is essential to not losing one’s mind,…
*Now* you tell me….
That is so awesome! Doubly sweet since Bruce was kind of a liberal himself.
glad it worked for you….
EW linked to this spooky article…
Is audacity the new uppity?
Hi Cassie! lol
If you are interested, mail me at FB. I’ll send you my copy.
Hi Margot!
posted them last night *g*
Here ya go
Nah, just the same old uppity in better cloths.
Here’s how I see it. There was a time when white men only had to try to outdo white men. Then, damn, they had to deal with white women and black men and, fer chissakes, black women, too. All the privilege. All that little pool of being good enough, striving hard enough, standing tall enough…..well, shit…..who let all those others in. Now, hey, I’m just guessing. And, yep, I did grow up where white men were privileged to look down upon on the rest of us, and I just think they are having a helluva time getting used to it. The hoodies were another group — and I don’t understand them….. rich and poor, but all white. We have a lot to learn yet. But there are more of us than them. Be strong. Stand together. Educate the fall-backs. Let’s get this done.
OT — Please join me, folded hands and closed eyes, in prayer: Please dear God, let Johnny choose Bobby Jindal for Veep!
http://tpmelectioncentral.talk....._the_d.php
Do you suppose a Richardson or Sibelius veep choice would motivate these wackaloons to actually pull a voting machine lever for Obama?
Heh, Mahalo! See my 84 above… 8-)
I’ve read it. i’m a huge alice Walker fan.
just hard to imagine why a group of people are so disdained in so many parts of the world because of their skin color. Somewhere it was decided long ago that they (by extension, I should say ‘we’) were not human (therefore enslavement) and still are not quite human.
I want Richardson!
Halleluja, Amen, Sistah!
Peterr, I hope you’ll be around for Saturday’s Book Salon with Matt Taibbi. He went full-immersion (literally!) with the theocons. It’s damn scary there.
Did you watch the CSpan interview with her a coupla weeks ago?
Missed it. I was busy watching her run around the bed
I think they would be more opposed to a woman than an AA. If they can’t dominate women they are nothing. A female VP would drive them right over the edge.
Viva la Raza!
Well, we’ve evolved(devolved?) since then, now we utilize things like Eugenics and other scientific ‘methods’ to ascertain inferiority…! 8-(