According to Mark Potok at Hatewatch, the country’s white supremacists are actually looking forward to the prospect of Barack Obama winning the presidency — but only because they’re certain he will fail:
It’s not that the assortment of neo-Nazis, Klansmen, anti-Semites and others who make up this country’s radical right have suddenly discovered that a man should be judged based on the content of his character, not his skin. On the contrary. A growing number of white supremacists, and even some of those who pass for intellectual leaders of their movement, think that a black man in the Oval Office would shock white America, possibly drive millions to their cause, and perhaps even set off a race war that, they hope, would ultimately end in Aryan victory.
“He will make things so bad for white people that hopefully they will finally realize how stupid they were for admiring these jigaboos all these years,” “Darthvader” wrote on the neo-Nazi Vanguard News Network web forum. “I believe in the motto ‘Worse is Better’ and Obama certainly fits that description.” Just last week, Ron Doggett, a Virginian who has been a key activist in the Klan, the paramilitary White People’s Party and the neo-Nazi National Alliance, chimed in with this: “I hope Obama wins because in four years, white people just might be pissed off enough to actually do something. … White people aren’t going to do a thing until their toys are taken away from them. So things have to be worse for things to be better.”
“Oh man,” enthused “Centimanus” on the white nationalist Stormfront website. “I am gleefully, sadistically looking forward to Obama as president. … It will be a beautiful day when the masses look at the paper and truly realize they have lost their own country. Added “Fulimnata”: “To the average white man and woman, they could look at Obama and see plain as day that whites are not in control.” Another message, from “TheLastOfMyKind,” agreed: “Could it be that the nomination of Obama finally sparks a sense of unity in white voters? I would propose that this threat of black, muslim [sic] rule may very well be the thing that finally scares some sense back into complacent whites throughout the nation.” “Actually,” said another poster, “if Obama were to win, it would be the best thing that ever happened to the Klan. They would have massive growth.” And “TeutonicLegion” said that “a whole bunch of people will join us and find these boards” if Obama becomes president.
Strangely (well, perhaps not that strangely), this is remarkably similar to the line of thinking promoted a couple of months ago by NRO’s John Derbyshire, when he urged readers to "Imagine an Obama presidency overwhelmed and floundering" and predicted: "Nonblacks will flee from the Democrats in droves, though. A Republican landslide in the 2010 midterms (think 1994); a clear GOP victory in 2012 (think 1980)."
Of course, none of them seem to have considered the prospect of what will happen if an Obama presidency succeeds — which, I guess, should be expected, considering their blind spots. Especially the ramifications for improving black-white race relations and the succeeding diminution of old-style white supremacy and its irrational, obsessive hatefulness.
But believe me, a lot of us have.
Of course, it’s easy to dismiss such "analysis" as mere racist ranting, but there’s also a significant element of self-fulfilling prophecy to the vitriol. That is, these folks have every intent of doing their damnedest to see find a way to make Obama’s presidency fail.
If you thought the far right went nuts in the 1990s — when the Democratic president was a white Southern male — just wait till there’s a President Obama. Progressives should be bracing for it.
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ITMFA!
Fritzdom!
Indeed. And FTFY!
Are they that twisted in their logic…?
great post david (putting on kevlar and nomex)
parallel thread on gabbly for those who want to comment on TDS and TCR without spoiling the thread here.works better on Firefox than Safari for those on macs.
Good evening, David.
Never afraid to tackle the tough stuff.
the new zed? whassit mean?
Hi hi hi hi hi hi hi firepups!
Heh, my favorite motto… FTFY!!!
Dave…
could you please stop with this implying that “if you think Obama is not qualified, you’re a racist” crap?
Just when you think the stupidity has hit an all time high, you find out they haven’t even scratched the surface. Fucking ridiculous.
Impeach the Mother F****** Already.
There is a full line of t-shirts, bumper stickers etc available here.
David- are you saying/ prediciting that the White Supremacists will vote for Obama?
Watch out for the super glue, Suz! ;-)
hahahahaha thanks :)
Yo, Dave. Amazing how they fail to see that the most qualified candidate might succeed. Nice to see that the “mainstream” wingers are revealing their racist stripes as well. Normally they are pretty good at hiding that.
Well, they are right about one thing — the next President is going to have the worst challenges on his desk of any in modern memory. Fucking up is gonna be really, really hard to avoid. But it’s because of the mess being left by the rotten son of privilege currently at the helm.
And as I watch Barack Obama begin to navigate the general election, I have great hope in his skills.
Uh, you are being a bit paranoid in your read of the piece, methinks.
don’t know that one. What’s it mean?
Makes me all tingly when the preacher swears! What’s with the ***s, Rev? It’s LATE NITE.
Not trying to speak for David but the post implies yes, in order for the Klan to grow their membership.
F The F-ing Yankees, in honor of Gilliard.
Teenagers in the house.
True, comparable to what FDR faced…!
AAAAHHHHHHH yes.
To Steve! (she says lifting a glass) Miss him lots!
oh please! i live on a fuckin’ military base! i go to HS!
ITMFA
I din’t know either, had to get out the Urban Dictionary this morning.
*clink*
Grownup site
laughing
You tell ‘em, miss.
I learned all my best cuss words at Ft. Hood in Junior High. That would be Middle School to you youngins. *g*
Tsk, tsk, how unpresidential, Missie…! ;-)
dugg
Thank you Suz-
Dugg back!
Hey, Rev, what’ll it take to get Fast Eddie Rendell to make a Stricklandesque statement about being Obama’s Veep? I’d sure like to get that sly one out of the running.
Ok folks and good pups you know you can Digg this post for David… He wrote us A very fine post tonight so please do your part and Digg it!!
2 weeks ago I did a sermon about universal salvation and did a reading from “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God” a really angry hellfire and damnation screed from Jonathan Edwards in 1741 or so. We had a new person who brought her granddaughter who must have been about 6 or 7 and it was at the 11:00 service when we don’t have Sunday School so she sat through the service. I welcomed her from the pulpit and told her in front of everyone that I would beusing language that might be a little scary and I didn’t mean it. Afterwards we talked and I said to her that she probably hadn’t heard many ministers use so many swear words to which she nodded her head. I assured her that we didn’t do that very often and it was only to talk about how we are different and don’t believe in such things as hell and damnation.
Cute kid. Grandma must have done some explaining because they came back last Sunday.
David, thanks for looking at one of the ugliest sewers in America and letting us know what stirs there.
you duplicated dood.. see my 36 (fyi, your dig has a 2 at the end which is an indicated of a duplicate)
i know that you had to post their comments to give us a view into their clueless minds, but it is still hurtful to read.
You’d think by now they’d have noticed that we aren’t having race wars, the way they’ve been predicting for the last – what? forty years?
If ignorance really were bliss, these guys should be in seventh heaven.
Yeah, and wow. Doesn’t the guy in the picture look likes he’s wearing a Tin Foil Hat?
Imagine if you’d had used some of Cotton Mather’s sermons…! ;-)
How is the cute kitty?
Fine post, Dave!
(Though hearing about Derbyshire’s strange (well, not that strange) imaginings might not make for the most restful night of sleep . . .)
My personal favorite sewer monitor. Personally don’t think I could do it, but it damn sure needs to be done.
Good for you.
You have been called. And, you speak the truth.
Hmm Obama is half white but …..
Ah shit I clicked the link and it said no one had dugg it so I dugg it… but if you click on the link above it goes {or it did } to my digg! Go figure LQQK what happens when you try and do some good:>)
Try 140 years or more. All the way back to the beginnings of slavery. Free the N*****s and race wars and the destruction of civilization are immanent.
We got part of that one in American literature in HS. It’s easier to understand where he was coming from, after reading Albion’s Seed, but it’s still hard to take. Some of the things they did, we’d probably call child abuse.
i always do an fdl refresh and retry the dig before i push the ‘totally swear honest’ button
i’ve found faster diggers can be found that way
She is doing very well, Cass. She is playing at the moment (sort of batting mr wobb’s ears-hehehe.
Say it LOUD!
Let us just say tonight’s Daily Show is sublime.
G’night, pups.
Don’t like either of them
What about the pic’s ya promised us…? Hmmm…? ;-)
thanks and g’nite prairie
Maybe they came back for more dirty words.
Great story.
she posted em last night or the night before.. where were you?
Good night Prairie
‘nite Prairie Sunshine, sweet dreams.
There’s a super gigantic one at the treehouse from yesterday.
(bows) Konnichiwa, Wobbs
nite prairie
appreciate it
I was around for some of the late threads…!
If you want an antidote to Derbyshire, just check out the video I put atop that post (link here).
Yes, that really is Derbyshire getting his ass kicked by Bruce Lee. He’s the skinny guy in the striped shirt.
g’nite, prairie: sweet dreams!
Thanx, Cassie, I’ll go look for it…!
I have just often wondered what horrrible thing did africans do to be on the receiving end of so much hate and disdain. What did their descendents (around the world) do to continue to be the target of such vitirol?
The main key to doing this work is keeping your sense of humor and recognizing when these clowns are good for a laugh. Which actually is not all that infrequent.
They came back with the little girl’s dad. It was the Coming of Age class complete with rock band service. Let’s just say a unique experience.
Here’s kittybits.
LMAO!!
Now I can sleep peacefully, indeed.
They did nothing. They are vicitims of ignorance and stupidity.
Was it in the comments? I didn’t see them in the posts…
A good question.
Heavy.
We all wonder why sometimes.
That is the Really Big Question.
How did I get here?
The hard part for me is not starting happy hour at 2:30 in the afternoon. Like I did today during the Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran post.
Amen.
The same holds true for me as I listen to the TheoCon wingnuts holding forth on religion. Keeping a sense of humor is essential to not losing one’s mind, and it also is a refreshing way to maintain your own sense of perspective.
They had the audacity to insist that they were also human and deserving of respect and decency.
Aww… I just love her pink nose…! ;-)
Also, dear wobbly, you might enjoy reading The Temple Of My Familiar by Alice Walker.
Keeping a sense of humor is essential to not losing one’s mind,…
*Now* you tell me….
That is so awesome! Doubly sweet since Bruce was kind of a liberal himself.
glad it worked for you….
EW linked to this spooky article…
Is audacity the new uppity?
Hi Cassie! lol
If you are interested, mail me at FB. I’ll send you my copy.
Hi Margot!
posted them last night *g*
Here ya go
Nah, just the same old uppity in better cloths.
Here’s how I see it. There was a time when white men only had to try to outdo white men. Then, damn, they had to deal with white women and black men and, fer chissakes, black women, too. All the privilege. All that little pool of being good enough, striving hard enough, standing tall enough…..well, shit…..who let all those others in. Now, hey, I’m just guessing. And, yep, I did grow up where white men were privileged to look down upon on the rest of us, and I just think they are having a helluva time getting used to it. The hoodies were another group — and I don’t understand them….. rich and poor, but all white. We have a lot to learn yet. But there are more of us than them. Be strong. Stand together. Educate the fall-backs. Let’s get this done.
OT — Please join me, folded hands and closed eyes, in prayer: Please dear God, let Johnny choose Bobby Jindal for Veep!
http://tpmelectioncentral.talk….._the_d.php
Do you suppose a Richardson or Sibelius veep choice would motivate these wackaloons to actually pull a voting machine lever for Obama?
Heh, Mahalo! See my 84 above… 8-)
I’ve read it. i’m a huge alice Walker fan.
just hard to imagine why a group of people are so disdained in so many parts of the world because of their skin color. Somewhere it was decided long ago that they (by extension, I should say ‘we’) were not human (therefore enslavement) and still are not quite human.
I want Richardson!
Halleluja, Amen, Sistah!
Peterr, I hope you’ll be around for Saturday’s Book Salon with Matt Taibbi. He went full-immersion (literally!) with the theocons. It’s damn scary there.
Did you watch the CSpan interview with her a coupla weeks ago?
Missed it. I was busy watching her run around the bed
I think they would be more opposed to a woman than an AA. If they can’t dominate women they are nothing. A female VP would drive them right over the edge.
Viva la Raza!
Well, we’ve evolved(devolved?) since then, now we utilize things like Eugenics and other scientific ‘methods’ to ascertain inferiority…! 8-(
Really? Infiltrated?
I like him for his experience, but he got veepvetted out in 2000 and 2004 for reasons best known to only some women. I can’t imagine Obama choosing him, having defeated such a strong candidate in Hillary Clinton. It might be the last straw for her supporters.
Do you suppose a Richardson or Sibelius veep choice would motivate these wackaloons to actually pull a voting machine lever for Obama?
Either choice would enrage HRC supporters. Richardson is a traitor to the Clintons, Sibelius is ‘the wrong’ female. (she is also to be credited with second-most boring speech I’ve ever heard).
So who do you have in mind for VP, Teddy?
I’ll be there, but I also have a wedding to do that evening, so I don’t know how long I can stick around. Been reading his book, and it’s really something. (Not just about the TheoCons, but all kinds of Cons who’ve gone of their own deep ends.)
The power of Christ compels you!
-G
Oh, yes, full-on undercover. It’s his specialty, apparently, the undercover journalizm.
Oh suure … then blame the landslide defeat on da brown dood !
Evenin’ all !
And, my observation is that the children of the boomers don’t have so much of that left-over junk; at least I hope so! I think younger men want their daughters to succeed as well as their sons. I don’t think younger fathers are thinking, “My girl can be a teacher, secretary, or nurse.” I, maybe I’m just a pollyanna, but I hope that we are in a different time. And I don’t think most young men want their sons to grow up to be KKK.
Obama is already polling well among Hispanics, which may (wierdly) diminish Richardson’s chances. That said, Richardson jumped on board at an early, critical time, which may help him.
That KO segment this evening was startling.
No, I didn’t see her on CSPAN. I did however read an open letter she penned, entitled, Lest We Forget: An Open Letter To My Sisters Who Are Brave.
In it she made the following comment:
more here
Sebelius is term limited as Gov in KS, but rumor has it she’s thinking of Senate. We could use her there.
Guess no one better tell these butterheads that genetically they are (as we all are) descendents of Africans.
Which one … the polls that show Obama is a better choice than McCain ?
And I’ve been both a teacher and a secretary. I don’t think my father still believes that I ended up being an attorney. I’m sure he really thinks that’s kind of not quite right. I want to say, “You’re, for god’s sake, 90 years old — grow up!.” Women can be lawyers. Blacks can be president. Anyone who brings the right stuff can be whatever.
The problem for me is that all the good people for VP are already in the Senate or House or Governors and I don’t want to lose any of them right where they are. I’m glad I don’t have to make the choice.
… or that “Aryans” actually describe North Indians …
Somehow, I don’t see her retiring from political life anytime soon.
Yup. That’s exactly where I got that information. I’m working hard on a big project right now, and Olbermann is where I get most of my news.
So, given what we learned on Olbermann in terms of demographic break down:
— Obama is polling way ahead among women.
— Obama is polling way ahead among Hispanics.
We’ve reason to suspect that Obama is polling way ahead among blacks.
Hmmmmmm. So, exactly which segment of white males have sufficient numbers
to overwhelm everyone else?
Sebelius is term limited as Gov in KS, but rumor has it she’s thinking of Senate. We could use her there.
I could get behind that.
Just as long as she doesn’t give any more prime-time speeches…
No one’s asked this Canuck his opinion (like that’s ever stopped me *g*) but I’d like Gore or Edwards as Veep.
And I am going to be President in 2032!!
I shoulda thrown the link – here it is.
And I’m gonna help organize for you !
Diebold voters?
too bad she’s not running this cycle against Pat (stall the report) Roberts.
Both have already said they’re not interested in the VP spot. I don’t have any personal preference, but I think it’ll end up being Clark.
I have been puzzled by that, not to mention insulted how people have been racially characterized.
I would love Edwards but he has already said no – may not mean much at this stage. Gore wouldn’t take it in a million years – been there, done that.
Me either. And I think she’s got a shot as Senator from KS, given her successes there. We need 61 of them. Well, only 60 if Lieberman’s out.
Shhhh! You’ll just confuse them and their tiny, twisted little minds will explode and we will have to clean up the mess.
I used to think Hatch was the most detestable Senator by a wide margin. But Roberts is a very, very close second.
I only saw that one, and yes, it was a snoozer.
Neither one’s interested
Roberts expression is dumber than McConnells and that’s saying a lot.
How is he doing among the half breeds? (I’m a supporter and so is Cassie but what about the rest?) /s
Got my vote.
You go girl!!! If I’m still alive I will vote for you just because I knew you when!
Now how am I supposed to be in denial if you keep bringing up reality?
There are so many to choose from on the right side of the isle it’s really hard to say whose worse. Liarman is the worst in my opinion, simply because he pretends to be a dem, or ind…. whatever the hell he calls himself today. We all know he’s a republic.
Thank you. I would like to be in the boat with her when we go over the rapids. Or, is that what we are doing now?
LOL !!! They’d prolly say something like, “Well if we’re African, how cum we ain’t got no rhythm, huh?”
Sorry…! ;-)
Actually goes back to early 20th century theories about the spread of Indo-Europeans out of their central Asian homeland north of the Caspian.
Yeah, I know what Edwards said but seeing him, Elizabeth and Barack chatting the other day was very uplifting and I doubt that he’d refuse if asked.
there are so many from which to choose. I’d add Snarlin’ Arlen to the list. He’s just a tease. He talks a good game and then votes with the snakes.
I don’t like teases.
Time to close it down. Night all.
Speaking of a mess did you see what happened to Ms Malkin at TBogg’s place?
Inhoffe and Coburn by a wide margin. Got out of there just in the nick of time.
I would be a happy camper with Obama and Edwards. One problem is that he didn’t even carry his home state in the primary.
Amen, amen to that!
good grief, they would say something that stupid
I’d love it too, but we’d never hear the end of the $400 haircut bullshit on faux snooze
I think that choosing a woman as Veep — a woman who isn’t Hillary — would be so damned insulting that you’d lose the not/sure vote. How could Sebelius possibly be the one if Hillary isn’t. I suspect that the little chat at DiFi’s house sewed that notion up. Richardson is …. how does one say wimpy in Espanol?. He’s a great guy, but he lacks umph. We need pizzaz, strong pizzaz.
Yep. Even noted that it was a surprisingly large explosion for such a small mind.
No, spill it.
‘nite RevDeb, sweet dreams.
How wrong they were. But through my studies (travel Narratives and the construction of ‘other’ identities) I’ve come across some jaw dropping things Europeans have done (naming racial groups, creating racial heirarchies on foreign soil among the various groups, etc.)
Better that than other things exploding.
Speaking of which:
Take note of what I observed above: What’s clear is that they intend to use any kind of Democratic president as an excuse for violent extremism.
Like Nora, her eyes are too far apart. Kinda like a walleye. Or flounder.
Also notice that he is not a scary brown person. Plain old ‘mercan.
If there turns out to be any depth to the numbers Obama is picking up now, just days after Senator Clinton’s endorsement, Senator Obama will be freer to pick who HE wants to be his VP, and not be tied to a party loyalty test running-mate. But Sebelius could backfire that intent. I agree a little.
Go to TBoggs
From what I heard, the Europeans twisted history to show that Aryans migrated from Europe and conquered India thousands of years ago (think Indus River Valley), in order to justify their rule of India.
The ‘vilest human ever’ took the “Aryan” tag and our beloved symbol of infinite peace and prosperity (swastika) to lay claim to the idea that he and his peeps are the rightful rulers of the world and therefore every bit of wealth was in fact his to reclaim.
The Good Dr. Dick will clarify for all our benefit.
That’s s’posed to be a sign of intelligence
Go figure
Yeah, I actually posted about this case last night.
Exploding golf balls?
OK, here’s the plan. We sneak into the pro shop and switch out one of the balls in each pack with these “specials” that will give the big business hotshots a really big drive when they pull out Big Bertha . . .
Does not surprise me. The Republicans have been enabling these loons for decades with out actually giving them any of what they want. They have to be like an overheated pressure cooker by now. That really could happen if we get a black president.
wobbly- I can’t remember where you said you grew up (if you ever have said so)- Don’t take this as untoward question- I do have sincere reason for asking.
Hey, has anyone seen Suzanne?
She had another showing today, I think.
Paging…Suzanne…please pick up the white house phone…Ms. Suzanne?
Imagine, if you will, if Hillary and Obama had gotten along throughout their campaign and if she hadn’t gone all banshee on him. With their combined 36 million advocates……well, just imagine. The fact that they are now fighting it out is disgusting. The Dems had/have a chance. But, ouch.
Good Evening David and Firedogs,
David you have taught us all how the ‘legitimate Right’ will use these people for messaging and general ratfucking – (Schlafly has already used Stormfront on anti-immigration )- the kinda good news is that there was no toobz in the 90’s – and exposing them will be easier, hell maybe even President Obama will dispatch surrogates to deal with it directly -
but yeah, a definite sense of anxiety and dread has settled in
Do those pointy klan hats hide the foreskin?
-G
Who, given that I grew up with them, quite frankly scare the shit out of me much more than all the scary brown/black/yellow folks in the world.
BO will give him some tips on dealing with that … start by asking the talking heads how much they pay for theirs … Bill O must be shelling out $5 per follicle …
In a related note to Obama attending the La Raza convention… The Hill reported this today…
Are those sold on the McSame golf products website?
showing – feedback – not what she was looking for
No shit?
((((( VG )))))
We all know they’re full of shit, right?
Sabre-rattling won’t get them their liberties – not with Barack Obama.
I am really sick of this blackmail that is going on. He can choose whomever he pleases.
Beer burns when it comes out my nose.
ROFL … that was awesome !
I wouldn’t shit you… Yer my favorite turd
;~P
Hey Petro! I can always use a hug! ty
Polls already indicate that these blackmailers are full of shit.
-G
Every group will make their play. None will bend this thing their way, though. Obama is showing enormous strength in all interest groups that matter.
Okay — now that I know, for certain you’re here, I’m heading out. Only, ’cause I know that the Lake’s in good hands.
(Hope today brought you some hopeful news..)
Me too, all this concern trolling, painting him in a corner so that whoever he chooses, the other “groups” will be mad at him … pity the Dems can’t be united like the Repugs …
Aaawwwww! I love you too.
i grew up here in california and spent a few years in brasil.
Dems have more fun. :)
Bonus hug coming through teh toobz … {{{{{ VG }}}}}
Dang, folks! I’m merely the messenger…! I didn’t say it…! ;-)
Clueless Clucks Clams only like a white sauce on their meats.
Have I said fuck the klan yet?
If not, fuck the klan.
-G
And we’re way better looking, too. I also hear we get more poonany.
Yeah well, he’s gonna have to prove himself to the “Beer Drinking Yogis of North America” group ! *g*
Franki say relax.
-G
ROFL
no, you fuck the klan
Spent a number of growing up years exposed to that stuff. It’s not the overt KKK type I worry about at the polls – not their style to wait in line and vote.
I
Not with your equipment. God alone knows what diseases those ratfuckers have.
FTFK!
the reply @ 200 was in response to your question
Not what I hear :-)
my apologies.. that probably comes across as one of those that are better said than typed.. nothing personal intended but my re-reading of it revealed that it could be taken either way so i’m retracting it
Okay, I’ll do what Frankie sez…! ;-)
Good evening dear friends.
WHATevah! *g*
Evening Betsy.
hey tex
Hiya Bets, how ya feelin’?
Betsy!
wobbly! thanks- for some reason I thought that you had mentioned Brasil. But, I didn’t remember in what context. I took part in a summer seminar at my U ~ a month ago- had to do with racial issues at my U. Part of of the requirement was to create a syllabus for a new course- mine was for a Bio course. I ended up finding some really wonderful links and articles about “race”- as in how you can’t tell where the person “came from” by the color of their skin- also Anthropologist who does research in Brazil, she in same seminar talked about how Brazilians view “race” so much differently than we do in US. I am just beginning to learn about this, but will continue.
{{{{{ Suz }}}}} We know you well enough by now …
((((( Betsy )))))
thanks petro.. still better to apologize than hope no one caught my fuckup
Oh what love!
I am doing well. Just minor pain from the procedure, and had a good meal and a good nap.
Evenin’ Betsy.
-G
When is NY?
([{Petro}]}) Don’t want you to think I didn’t see you!
Good Heavens … McCain to give speech on free trade during visit to Canada next week … he’ll tell the Lumber and Cattle industries what a great deal Free Trade is for Canada … after which, said Lumberjacks and Cowboys will thank their lucky stars that he lives on the other side of the border …
I thought it was very funny myself …
Brasilians do view race differently historically (for example there was a time when miscegenation was encouraged but there was also a time when the ‘whitening’ of brasil was encouraged. It is different fromt he U.S. but it is still pretty fucked up
?
We go to NY next Thursday!
((((( WDD ))))) … the comments are flying fast and furious tonight … *g*
Hey, I’ve herad-tell that you guys have your very own “free-tradin’ Schmuck” up there, but we’d be much obliged if you’d take this one off our hands.
Uh-huh. that will win him lots of votes here in Montana, I can tell you. They just closed another mill here and the ranchers are grumbling as well.
Quick! Get me the fainting couch!
Isn’t there some long simmering feuds amongst the Canadian lumber jacks about the US screwing them over…?
Different parameters, but the same basic rules: the whiter the better. Race and ethnicity is one of my specialties.
Harper did apologize for the Canadian maltreatment of Native peoples today.
Bigger man than G.W. Shitheel.
-G
see my 216 where i retracted and apologized
Hi y’all. just a drive by to say hello. did you guys see the news item about the FEMA jerks giving away supplies intended for Katrina victims. The supplies sat in warehouses for two years and then FEMA claims they “didn’t know” LA could use them. LA didn’t request them. So they gave it to sixteen other states.
pulling my hair out at the cruel stupidity of these people.
The lumberjacks here in western Montana tell it a very different way.
In a small corner of the Amazon jungle there is a tribe that we haven’t screwed over – they’re the only ones we have left untouched.
Har!
Current PM is a Neocon and they’re growing up here but the Liberals are feckless so we might have them in power for awhile …
Not stupid. Evil.
Dang foul-mouthed fem blogs…
(I just can’t help myself)
That’s scheduled for Sunday, yes? Or Monday?
Yep on Softwood Lumber. BushCo also stopped Canadian cattle from entering the U.S. under false pretenses but the resourceful Canucks found overseas markets for their products …
David, thanks again for your post. We who care about making change in American politics, need to be reminded of the slam that’s coming. Keep us posted.
no forking shizz
Bye y’all!
Christy for VP!
What, that the Canucks are unfairly inundating the marketplace with cheap soft timber…?
Actually. Dubya got fast track authority for Friday.
He apologized on behalf of the Gov’t, not because he felt any need to do so personally.
g’nite cas
I can’t take it. It’s like throwing away a filet mignon in front of a hungry homeless person. Fricking incredible. I wonder which sixteen states benefitted from the largesse?
Red states with red govr, mayor, senate & congress.
I think the article said it was worth $57 million.
Oh, and the warehouses were located in Fort Worth, Texas.
Yep. Call it dumping. Also claim that the Canadian timber industry is heavily subsidized by the government – as if ours isn’t (we just hide it so nobody realizes that we the taxpayers are giving them millions of dollars a year in subsidies).
‘nite Cassie, sweet dreams.
Night, Cassie.
More like our Lumber and Beef were preventing his buddies from spiking the prices on these commodities. After they stopped Canadian cattle going into the U.S., the price of meat jumped (in America).
Truthout headline says $85 mil.
Funny how all this happened after Canada refused to join the foolish enterprise in Iraq …
we got cake!
http://chicagoist.com/attachme…..macake.jpg
I haven’t been online all day … did DK and Wexler get anywhere with their impeachment thingy ?
Exactly! and, yes Petro, exactly too!!!
wobbly! thanks for comment- sounds like a very complex topic.
what I’m planning to do in my course is talk about the general idea that from a biological point of view, outward characteristics say nothing about the person, and that there is no genetic/ biological basis for separating people into different races. Before the human genome was sequenced, this study was one of the first to give scientific evidence: (popular press report)
http://www.abc.net.au/science/…..748264.htm
Race is an illusion, say researchers
Also, there’s a great series that was shown on PBS that I plan to use:
http://www.newsreel.org/nav/title.asp?tc=CN0149
Race- The power of an illusion
What a disgusting thing. The citizens of this country have been robbed over and over and most of them don’t seem to know it. Notice that the MSM avoids the subject of New Orleans – just so yesterday, I guess
It was voted on and went to “the panel” HJC? where it is “expected to die”.
But did you reject and denounce?
-G
P.S. In my reading of the US/Pakistan strike, I think the US has done it to punish Pakistan for cutting peace treaties with the Taliban.
It sounds very bad to me.
It was passed with 255 votes to send it to the HJC and Conyers… We shall see if it is buried in committee or not…
The terms alone used to describe race show how race is broken down (though race is not kept track of there like it is here)
moreno(escuro/claro) – your skin is not white but your ‘tan’ comes fromsoemthing else other than africans
vs.
mulatto (escuro/claro) – your not white skin is attributable to african ancestry.
There are brasilians that are way darker then I am who swear that they have no african ancestry whatsoever.
I’d love to be a fly on the wall when Wexler and the HJC discuss this …
Nah. Our guys here in Montana are always bitching and whining about Canadian competition. For a bunch of libertarian free marketers, they sure hate anything resembling market competition.
i have an appetite!
wobbly- p.s. first link above is study from Brazilian researchers.
Wexler’s on a roll.
He’ll probably stride to the nearest microphone.
I noticed that and also that the impeachment story was widely ignored on TV news, at least I didn’t see it. did you?
My hubby says “slow news day” and I say uh uh. Then I told him that Putin is now the president of Germany and he just looked at me. he couldn’t believe it. He gets this particular look when someone utters something so incredibly stupid that he can’t believe his ears.
VG – I use that film series in my classes and it is really quite powerful and effective.
Was the Bush-Merkel joint press conference televised? Curious about the body language.
there are more than just one. There are reported to be more. We just haven’t seen them.
Bob in HI told me that Abercrombie joined Wexler as a cosponsor, I wrote my critter, the other HI Rep, Mazie Hirono, to please jump aboard… I’m awaiting a reply back…!
Thank you Betsy for OB cake!
Then Bush hasn’t found them yet.
And there are Mexicans whose faces could come off the temple friezes who swear they have no Indian blood. As I say in my race and ethnicity course, race does not exist in humans, but it is one of the most powerful forces shaping our lives.
Also, the Unity Church also says that FEMA regularly refers people to them and they are in desparate need fothe things that they just gave away. They meet with FEMA all the time and FEMA never mentioned the stuff. How can you request something if you don’t know FEMA has it?
F*cked Everyone Most Absolutely. or something. heckuva job you buttheads.
Wobbly! that was actually one of the points in the first article I linked- I didn’t link to the actual scientific report (PNAS) but basic point was color was no indication of ancestry.
OK, well that’s my rant for the evening. It should hit all the airwaves for goodness sake. I wonder if Anderson Cooper will follow up.
((peace firepups))
thanks.
I’ll have a look see
Oh wow! we need to talk!
President Shitheel continues in his pathologically dishonest ways.
One day after lamenting that his ‘tone’ made him seem a warmonger, he threatens Iran with military action.
Word has it the Cheney faction is on the march and the path to bombing Iran is opening up and becoming more likely.
-G
late late nite zed unclaimed upstairs
Eureka! Come on up.
Go to my FB page. It has my university email. I mentioned above that race and ethnicity is one of my specialties and I teach an upper division class on it.
Fortunately, genealogy is pretty accurate… My Grandpa had traced my/our lineage back to Charlemagne…! ;-)
Heh.
i saw that. But I mean that they look down on other people who are darker skin but they themselves are dark.
((((( dosido )))))
Spike Lee has explored the issue of racism among the African American community (lighter skinned blacks have greater prestige) in some of his films. This is particularly true in the Northeast. there is also some anthropological literature on the subject (including some by African Americans).
I think the Racist are lying after all sure they all say that Obama being President will help them but does anyone really think that they are going to vote for Obama?
I think they are looking for a potential bright side to offset the horrible news that Obama got more votes than John McCain in Southern states heck in some states he got more than the entire GOP field.
Which if you think about says something about how small the hate groups are getting.
Never mind how Obama did in Western States without a large African American Population.
The Racist have said this same thing when the Army was integrated, when African Americans got the right to vote, schools were integrated etc.
Funny thing living standards have gone down because white men keep voting for GOP Presidents who outsource jobs, destroy unions, get us into oil wars then stick the middle class with the bill.
The racists have bought into the scapegoat the rich have provided to keep the middle class divided. The racists have bought into the lies of the very people who keep them as slaves.
I’m surely EPU’d but thanks for that link.
Those numbers are way too good to settle things. But he has a habit of building insurmountable leads.
If Sibelius can’t be picked because she’s not Hillary Clinton, that’s rank sexism. She has 22 years of experience getting elected as a progressive Democrat in Kansas, turning reasonable GOPs into Democrats, and legislating good things in the face of some of the nation’s the worst conservative hate-mongering.
I like her. She delivered a lousy SOTU response — but do we really need another outstanding orator? More here
I’m just remembering that when Bill Clinton gave the Keynote address at the Democratic Convention in, what was it? 1988? It went on record as the most boring speech ever made at a Dem National Convention.
Late driveby (please forgive if this has already been raised in the comments):
Not just the White-Hood but the White House?
Scott McClellan writes about the “permanent campaign” in his book– is there any reason to suppose that this attitude as stopped?
As it has become increasingly likely that the Democratic Candidate for president would win, is the White House gaming things to (insofar as possible) set up the Democratic president to fail, thus insuring a speedy return of Republican rule?
In fact, are they still yet holding cards close to their vests to play in November and December to sabotage the next president? Of course, they would try to disguise their intentions. I’m even wondering that if McCain’s candidacy collapses before November, they might even move up their “November surprise” to October or even September?
Bob in HI