Comments on: McCain On The Troops Coming Home From Iraq: “Not Too Important”

By: Mauimom

Mauimom — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:00:10 +0000

And what ever happened to the story about the “bulge” in the back of Bush’s jacket [permitting him to receive answer prompts during the debate]?

Oh, same dustbin as the one about his National Guard records?

By: moeman

moeman — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:18:03 +0000

It was early morning, McSame shoulda just said ‘Pancakes!’

By: angie

angie — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:18:58 +0000

For sushi and soba!

By: sporkovat

sporkovat — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:05:32 +0000

correct! it illustrates the extent to which they share the same framework on this issue, utter the same talking points as Dick Cheney and McCain.

so, this is another way of saying “they are not that different.”

eek! Naderitis!

By: Smgumby

Smgumby — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:30:09 +0000

You don’t seem to realize, that if we recognize Irans right under international treaty to complete the nuclear cycle for fuel, and place some reasonable international safeguards, that threat will have been eliminated.

My main concern is that such talk almost invalidates complaint’s when Bush does start war with them. After all, when all the top Dems trot out to talk about the “threat”, they can’t really complain when Bush uses force to remove that “threat”.

By: sporkovat

sporkovat — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:23:30 +0000

I’m just a lonely advocate on fdl for the school of thought that a vote for Pres is primarily a token of faith in the legitimacy of the system of govt.

this is how it was touted in the media for example with the prurple fingers in Iraq - “see how valid the system the US cooked up is”

Secondarily, it affirms one’s support for the policies of one’s candidate, and one incurs a bit of the glory or blame for the actions of the candidate.

I don’t want any part of the responsibility for a pres who promised

. [M]y goal will be to eliminate this threat.”

ok - and the fact that some other hobgoblin is worse doesn’t move me, since, after all, in a nation of 200 million people one’s actual influence is basically infinitely small.

this larger debate is unresolvable, both sides have validities - i’m just representin’.

By: Fern

Fern — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:18:55 +0000

I’m just hoping that when Obama says words to the effect that he’ll do anything necessary to make sure that Iran does not get the bomb, that his “anything” includes some options that are not on the republican list. Like negotiation.

By: sporkovat

sporkovat — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:17:19 +0000

As if it is going to be left up to the next president…

yep, if they push the button before Nov it will change the electoral calculus in unknown ways.

as Trinity said in the Matrix:

“bad for us”

By: Fern

Fern — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:15:50 +0000

So you’ll let us know when there is a candidate and/or party worthy of your vote?

By: Smgumby

Smgumby — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:15:02 +0000

Yup, that speech completely killed my “the primaries are ending” high I had been experiencing.

At least Obama stresses diplomacy, McCain promises a war.

As if it is going to be left up to the next president…