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When I first started commenting here — in 2005? — about the time that some of the worst Constitutional abuses were being exposed, I noted that during the Nixon Watergate era, Americans held their collective breath not knowing whether the Constitution would hold. We weren’t sure whether Nixon would get away with his crimes, what Congress would do about impeachment, whether the Supreme Court would uphold Congress’ and the federal courts’ right to demand evidence of crimes from the Executive Branch.
But the Supreme Court ruled against Nixon, the House Committee voted out articles of impeachment, and the Constitution held. Our system of laws forced a criminal President to resign from office, and Americans were not just relieved; they were proud of how their nation had endured.
It may never happen again.
Over the last two nights, a lonely Congressman stood on the House floor and read through 35 Articles of Impeachment, many of them "worse than Watergate," some of them not just "high crimes and misdemeanors," but war crimes and offenses that needlessly sent thousands to their deaths, drove millions more from their homes, and permanently stained the nation’s honor. Surely this list of offenses, some more egregious than those in the Declaration of Independence, deserves a thorough and immediate hearing, even a rebellion?
But this is 2008, and where Nixon failed to overturn our Constitutional system of accountability, checks and balances, and the rule of law, George Bush has succeeded. Rep. Kucinich’s lonely quest to uphold the Constitution will be ridiculed by many, belittled as a waste of time and worse, an embarrassment to a Congressional leadership that has deservedly lost the nation’s respect.
Although Jonathan Turley appearing on Countdown last night expressed dismay at Congress’ passivity, Mr. Kucinich’s Articles will likely be referred to a committee for an indecent burial, while Congressional leaders claim they’re too busy doing the people’s business. But what will they cite as evidence of their diligence?
Will it be yesterday’s political stunt to pass a tax on oil company profits, which everyone knew would not gather enough votes to proceed to debate? Or how about the similar failure to hold a debate on incentives for renewable/alternative energy sources? Or perhaps they’ll cite last week’s vote that put off for another year any meaningful action on global climate change? Or the failure to override repeated vetoes of bills to provide health insurance for children? Where’s the legislation to help Americans save their homes? How about their inability to end/limit the Iraq occupation? Or the coming vote to "compromise" the 4th Amendment by gutting FISA yet again?
Yes, they’ve been very busy, accomplishing almost nothing, because our "government" is led by a cabal of incompetent, dishonest, law-breaking zealots who trashed the country and hold the American people in contempt. They’re supported by a rubber stamp Republican Party determined to prevent anything worthwhile from passing, even as the electorate prepares to throw them out of office, while the Democrats, savoring the elections can’t find the courage to defend their oaths and just say "enough."
The real reason for this burial is that our Congressional leaders find it embarrassing to admit how thoroughly Bush has beaten them in escaping accountability. They won’t even insist on their own Congressional perogatives to demand information from the Administration, let alone try to reestablish the simple concept that no man is above the law. That foundational democratic principle is just not true in America, because George Bush and Dick Cheney deliberately created conditions under which they and their closest advisers are above the law. In fact, with their compliant Attorney General, these people have become their own law.
After surviving Watergate, the country seemed to believe in itself more; we appreciated the brilliance and wisdom of its Constitution, the strength of its institutions. With them, a decent people and vigilant press could right the ship even when its President was corrupt. But somewhere in the deluge of money, the conservatives’ assault on government, and the concentration/corruption of our media, we lost a critical mass of patriots, people who understood and cared how it all worked and weren’t afraid to fight for it. We became a fearful, cynical nation.
All of this has happened in my lifetime. It will not be comforting to hear those wiser than I explain that this has been coming on for a long time, that America’s fall from grace merely accelerated and became more obvious during Bush’s lawless tenure. It is still heartbreaking.
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This a great post and oh so sad that you can make. I still believe that we should proceed with impeachment now so that this Congress can at least point to something accomplished. Get it out of the way now so that our new majority in Congress next year won’t have to waste their precious time on it.
I believe nancy does not realize that if the president attacks Iran he will declare martial law and suspend the constitution and congress
pelosi will no longer even have the ability to set the table
she needs to be made aware, she is complicit in these crimes as they move forward
I appreciate Dennis Kucinich’s patriotism and brilliancy. ;-) In the future, Democrats and republics who voted AGAIN against impeaching George Bush & Dick Cheney will also be the ones who have dead Americans, Iraqis, and others on their hands. They’ll have to explain their inactions to us for years. And there is no good excuse either, except: I HATE AMERICA! I WANT AN AUTHORITARIAN DICTATORSHIP RATHER THAN A DEMOCRACY FOR AMERICA! BRING HITLER BACK!
Spit. *swigging milk to refuel*
pelosi also needs to be made aware the impeachment of Clinton took less time then the president has in office and the government did not stop
she also needs to be made aware that we believe there is blackmail which prevents her from honoring her oath to office
she needs to be made aware that we hold her to account for the crimes committed with her knowledge if she fails to act
wow
I thought I was reading a post I penned myself…very nice kay
*applauds*
I must repost for you from downstairs, thanx for the number too;
Mornin’, Scarecrow. A most excellent post. Says the things that need to be said about the sorry ass Democratic leadership, so obsessed with maintaining their positions of power the people can just go to hell.
nust dig and dug post
I also must repost this excellant bit of information from think progress;
Are you gonna be in the streets with us if that happens? If it does happen this is gonna be an ugly place to be.
I won’t go into what we would have to do cuz Jane, Christy and the mods would be on me like white on rice.
Good Morning Scarecrow and Firedogs,
wow ‘Crow – well said, beautifully written, and tragically all true
I begin a quick news-study each morning with a brief visit to CNN.com. I was surprised to see that Dennis Kucinich’s call for impeachment actually made their headlines . . . but most amazing, in a small box on the side–reporting MOST VIEWED–the Kucinich story is NUMBER ONE!
Thanks for voting republican! Bah hahahahaha!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiQJ9Xp0xxU
;-)
Okay, going to work. Have a great day everyone! Let’s hope there’s a vote today on the 35 Articles of Impeachment against George Bush! ;-)
let’s KEEP it there
I say roots project, maybe scarecrow can facilitate
By the way, how come MSNBC said this morning in one of their trailers, “Big Oil sighs in relief” that the windfall tax on them didn’t pass and was blocked by the American Taliban (the GOP) in the Senate? I thought with a windfall tax, the Oil Maggots would just go up on their prices to punish us some more? Bah hahahahahaha! What a bunch of liars.
I once thought impeachment being “off the table” was a function of Pelosi’s unwillingness to be seen as self serving; she is, after all, 3rd in line to the White House and any impeachment proceedings would obviously take down Darth as well, so she would become POTUS.
It’s now gotten to the point that appearances be damned, do your constitutional duty.
Morning Scarecrow
A mournful post.
I think there are a growing number of true patriots now, but we have to break through the MSM. And fuel prices are opening a lot of eyes. I have hope.
Yup. Better be careful.
Armed Insurrection.
As Jefferson prescribed in the Declaration.
kay you are ON FIRE today, that is the BEST FRIGGING COMMERCIAL EVER EVER!
GO VIRAL WITH THIS
This is a fine, but sad post, Scarecrow. I first heard of John Conyers and Charlie Rangel as members of the House Judiciary Committee when they voted on the articles to impeach Nixon. I’m surprised either of them can remain quiet over impeachment in these times.
First thing to go would be intertoobz access, which just happens to be the best mass organizing tool the world has ever seen.
they had a differant breed of republican, at the time they were politicians who cared about the future of this nation
now they just care about which team wins
Good morning, Scarecrow and thanks for this excellent post.
Emblematic of Congressional abdication was the insistence, at yesterday’s Senate FBI “torture” hearing, was the insistence on questioning the effectiveness of enhanced interrogation techniques. As though somehow if the techniques had been effective they would have been justified. The framing of this issue, even on the part of Democrats, turns my stomach.
I will think the attack begins when firedoglake, think progress, daily kos and c and l go down at the same time
that’s the earmark I think
and today our dem leadership doesn’t come close measuring up to that breed of republican.
You haven’t answered my question. *g*
Great post, SC. Not what I want to read with my coffee in the morning, but absolutely spot on.
That’s true. I came to admire William Cohen, among a few others, as “good Republicans”.
Just tuned into democracynow.org & Scott McClelland is the guest for the hour.
no can do in public
I’ll be with you. My pitchfork and torch are hanging on the wall in my bedroom – primed and ready.
Damn, I have to wait til noon to get it.
I think I agree with that point
for instance, nixon might even be a democrat if in office today
scary but true
I’ll accept that.
Hard not to cry, it has all been so so sad watching our Constitution and country go down—not even in flames, or as someone said not with a bang, but with a whimper.
Uh huh.
Basic military tactics. Cut off “the enemy’s” communication.
Just go to democracynow.org & listen live. I’ve got it going on another window.
thank you! will catch the replay at 9am on wbai.
and they said we could never be defeated from abroad our overthrow would come from within, wrapped with a flag and carrying a bible
I don’t know who said that or the exact quite but prescient it was
beautful and sad post scarecrow. it’s hard to see such high hopes for this congress betrayed.
Aside: I remember despising Jonathan Turley during the Clinton impeachment. I thought he was a complete charleton for arguing that Clinton was guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors. Of course I agree with his current position, but think that his prior willingness to advocate impeachment over matters totally unrelated to conduct of the office of the Presidency somewhat weakens the force of his arguments now.
Cool. They’ve changed the time the broadcast is available. Used to be noon before it was put on the web. LOL. Don’t have time to watch now so I’ll have to wait til later anyhow.
Been a long time since I was considered “the enemy” for real.
They webcast live between 8 & 9 am, but then it takes them awhile to get the replay up.
It’s hard to believe that someone could be so naive & ignorant as spread-your-cheeks Scotty.
It may have come from Sinclair Lewis’ It Can’t Happen Here, but I’m not sure. That book scared the bejebus out of me. Still does.
Ah, so. Thank you for that. I’m used to listening on the radio and watching it later if it was important enough to warrant a repeat.
When a society moves from being one of citizens to one of merely consumers the dye is cast. The electorate by and large has been dumbed down by it’s politicians in league with a complicit and corrupt corporate media. A dumbed down electorate is far easier to “manage” than one with the capacity for critical thought. From Watergate to Iran Contra to the current regime many of the players are the same. It’s been merely a continuum of deceit and subterfuge by a movement that has never been held accountable. Is it any wonder the experiment has run it’s course? The U.S. will continue it’s slow decline despite what may happen in November. A disengaged, ignorant, and fearful electorate lacks the interest let alone outrage to demand that these enemies of the state be held accountable for their crimes. Those elected officials that are in a position to “do something”, with very few exceptions, lack the courage to exercise their constitutional responsibilities. The most that can be mustered are “strongly worded letters.” Hardly sufficient to preserve constitutional government. The slow moving coup from Watergate to an appointed President is complete. IMHO dual citizenship has it’s priviledges.
is youtube down overall for anyone?
I can’t get this to load
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiQJ9Xp0xxU
if it’s not loading for you save it, it is the absolute best political commercial I ahve ever seen
Works for me. Great ad.
Don’t forget to digg! Now back to read the comments.
and it’s why they have dismantled education, why they want vouchers and prefer private school
it’s why they want to teach magic in science class and it’s why they don’t want anyone going to college who are part of the masses
they need an uneducated populace
OT: McClennan on Democracy Now says when he was Press Secretary his responsibility was to to advocate for the positions of the President despite the fact he knew them to be deeply flawed. I guess he had no responsibility as a citizen of the United States. How nice for him. Unfortunately, this attitude is common these days.
I wonder why I could load it before and not now…ineresting, maybe this cafe is blocking youtube but if true I wouldn’t have been able to see it before
Well At Least They’re Consistent Dept -
the commentary stylings of Howard Finemann – on KO
“gummed up on the works of the Constitution” – without even realizing he just characterized that most sacred document as the impediment instead of the catalyst
“even though I’ve heard as I travel around the country people bring this up, they do bring impeachment up . . .
and not just wild eyed liberals – a lot of constitutionalist conservatives are very upset with what George Bush has done . . .”
looks like preview has gone away at this end – here goes nuthin’
we can all reclaim our integrity bilbo
I have had times of remorse and I have done whatever I could to make amends
I give scott the benefit of doubt, for now, even if his motive is selfish he is doing quite a bit of good here
Good morning Scarecrow.
Working on building up that critical mass of patriots just now: unprecedented voter turnout for the primaries for example. And yes, it is heartbreaking what has happened.
Thanks for holding the torch high for the rest of us to see through the darkness.
I watched a snippet two nights ago showing historians/librarians trying to fix the humpty-dumpty mess that remained of their historical documents and masterpieces, after destruction was allowed at the time we invaded Iraq. How will Americans respond when a few dedicated individuals are tasked with piecing together the documents and memorabilia that DEFINE the U.S.–our Declaration, our Constitution . . . OUR history?
Crow,
WE the people have to look at this as a kick off. The articles have been laid out now it’s time to demand from our representatives a through explanation of what is more important than: day one article one ,day two article two, and so on until we contact them 5 days a week for the next seven weeks for answers . Then we post their answers and share them with are neighbors. As Ricky told Lucy” you got some ‘plaining to do”.
My article is # 10 and may the ghost of Mr. PAT TILLMAN hound george bush through the gates of hell.
Peace now, DAMN it
our constitution arose from her great sleep, spread her mighty wings and she sent the democrats to fight for her one last round
they took a dive
Yes, the voter enthusiasm this year in the Democratic primaries is a hopeful sign.
Ironic op ed from Tom Friedman today, talking about Obama’s effect in Egypt:
Friedman doesn’t mention the effect Obama’s AIPAC speech had on the Palestinians.
Thanks for a great post Scarecrow. I’m still in the middle of reading Shock Doctrine. It occurred to me while reading on Shock and Awe for Iraq that Bushco has declared Shock and Awe on the Constitution. They have attacked it in so many ways from so many angles that trying to respond is staggering. Four or five hours just to read the charges? And I’ll bet that Kucinich left out some things that could or should have been included.
Let’s keep the pressure on our Congresscritters to join with Kucinich and Wexler. Our Constitution can’t wait.
2005 sounds right Scarecrow. I remember your comments and I remember you traveling to CT to work on Ned’s campaign. Thanks for an as per usual great post.
That’s part of the job description she take’s a pay check from all of us for. As long as she wasn’t involved she bears no shame the two top officials are criminals and must be excised like any cancer.
Hubby called our Rep and both Senators yesterday. Today it’s my turn. . . also spotlighted this article to our local print media . . . for all the good THAT will do.
Done.
Thanks for the link.
William Colby is patiently waiting for Friedman to join him in his little corner in hell. He’s in no hurry, mind you, he’s got an eternity.
ot
Kirk Johnson, who is working on bringing Iraqis who helped the US military here to safety, is up on CSPAN now
SD–200 miles north of you . . . and with gardening in full-swing, I’ve removed ALL the manure from my PITCHFORK. Intermittent showers may require that I garden by TORCHlight.
Yeah, I didn’t like that Hamsher woman at first; she had the annoying habit of being right as well as perceptive. I remember joining the threads just to read what Prof and Christy and others were saying about the Youngstown case and Article 2. It was like sitting in a graduate seminar on Constitutional law.
I don’t think we are all that much to blame. Representative democracy doesn’t work anymore, but I am not sure what form electronic democracy will take. I don’t even know if it’s technologically possible today. The fact is we, as individual citizens, are powerless. After Kennedy was killed I don’t think there was ever less than 50% of the people who didn’t attribute his death to a conspiracy in very high places. The idea that the gangster Ruby killed Oswald because he didn’t want the widow Kennedy to testify insulted everyone’s intelligence, but what could anyone do? It’s the same with 9/11. I don’t buy much of that conspiracy theory, but there are elements that should be explored, like the collapse of the third tower late that afternoon and the inability to use cell phones on airplanes. If that last is true, the whole story of the plane that went down in PA is BS.
As long as we cannot use the internet to organize, we will never be more than angry commenters. Bush goes Hitler one better. Hitler put dissenters in concentration camps. Bush ignores them. The end result is exactly the same.
Isn’t that just annoying as hell? *G*
Congress…where’s the timetable to restore democracy in America? Yeah I thought so..
First they ignore you.
Then they laugh at you.
Then they fight you.
Then you win.
M K Gandhi
I sure hope you’re right
Cue Kucinich tape, June 9 and June 10, 2008
Me too.
Verrrryyy good.
In another part of that document I like the “perfuit of happiness” part.
make that “perfuit…”
exactly.
i don’t think we can afford to (or have reason to) give obama the benefit of the doubt as we did our dem congressional leaders after the 2006 elections. imo, just as you do here, we’ve got to be on his case immediately – even as we support his campaign.
Is a censure politically possible at this time? Of course, it wouldn’t be enough, but at least there would be some official record that what has occurred was not acceptable.
I found this site outlining the various Executive Order involved in declaring emergency powers and martial law:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind…..ted_States
does anyone know about the reliability of the website? It seems like a good summary and I would like to use it in a letter to Speaker Pelosi and Rep Conyers, but want to make sure it is reliable first.
Christ, you’d think I’d know how to spell “purfuit”
Site’s reliable and this Act is one of many we need to get repealed.
The revolution we need to win will be to overcome the need of the gun fall back position. That is the gun (Cluster bomb ,B-1, cruse missiles is the law attitude,puff the magic gun ship,…) mightier than the pen?
Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.
Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.
Namaste
Fpell it! I can’t even fay it!
I hope everyone will add their comments about Impeachment on this pitiful WaPo accounting of the Kucinich impeachment.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..v=hcmodule
OT – some possibly interesting hearings coming up in a few minutes:
Signing statements, check.
Politicization of DOJ, check.
Blackwater, check.
Loss of habeas corpus, check.
Extraordinary rendition, check.
Katrina and EPA, check.
Iraq, and soon, Iran, check.
Pretty well sums it up, huh?
too well.
great comment.
I was pissed watching Olbermann last night. First of all Turley and others were expressing their “opinion” of hopelessness as if it were fact. My thought is that this is part of the problem. Fineman presented his “predictions” as if they were fact. Which then tells america…”impeachment is impossible and it will not occur”. Why, what happened to dialectical journalism that presents one side and then another. Why impeachment could work, and then why it might not???
The end result is that Americans are spoon fed the sound bites, go to work and around water coolers everywhere (for those few who watched olbermann) will recite as fact that they heard that impeachment will fail. It’s like giving out election results before voting is in.
Ugh.
Excellent book. I even have a T shirt that shows a poster that was used to advertise the play at the LaFayette Theater in Michigan. I bought it on ebay.
I’m always happy to chime in over there. It’s nice to get outside the echo chamber we have here, even though it always steams me up. Here’s what I wrote…
If the Bush Administration hadn’t committed so many crimes, there wouldn’t have been the need for so many committees investigating them. If the Republican Congress hadn’t backed Bush’s incompetence for so long, and instead provided the oversight that was needed, there wouldn’t have been a backlog of investigations in his uselessness as President. If the Republicans really thought that Congress had more important things to do, they would stop stalling and/or filibustering every bill that comes to the floor.
If Republicans were serious about their policies, they would have realized that Bush was not following them. By backing Bush unashamedly for the last seven years, they have backed crimes and incompetence instead of serious policy and now that has become what the Republicans stand for: incompetence and corruption.
Reminds me a bit of that John Adams line from the musical 1776: I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace; that two are called a law firm, and that three or more become a Congress!
Full speech/song here.
Thanks. I’ll have to go recommend your comment. I think it’s really important to post on their site just so that they know that we aren’t blindly buying what they’re selling.
that, sadly, about sums it up. So I sent the link to this post to my congressman—on his own e-mail account, not the office one. Maybe he’ll read it. Maybe.
Thanks for the link. The song is great.
No sane man would tolerate it, indeed.
John Adams to congress:
amazing to listen to this now and substitute “impeachment” for “independence”
And they can’t even agree on opening a window even though it’s 95 degrees…
Sheesh.
Amen.
The process has started though. It is a very slow process. Too slow. But it is starting. There is hope.
ITMFA
mccain on think progress says “anyone who’s on the ground says the surge is working”
and yet he is not challenged on that statement, even think progress lets the statement go unchallenged
CSPAN 3 at 10
Which conspiracy do you prefer? The financing of the 9-11 attacks by Pakistan and the Allbriton’s (who own POLITICO.COM)? Or PNAC who needed a catastrophic and catalyzing Pearl Harbor event? Or the Carlyle Group’s longtime personal relationship with the Booshies and Bin Laden’s? And so on…
If there are any future generations and they look back on this period they will doubtless ask “Didn’t anyone raise an objection to these crimes?”
And the answer will be “Dennis Kucinich.”
“The end result is that Americans are spoon fed the sound bites, go to work and around water coolers everywhere (for those few who watched olbermann) will recite as fact that they heard that impeachment will fail. It’s like giving out election results before voting is in.”
I saw a headline on Google stating something like, ‘Kucinich Reads 35 Articles of Impeachment. Many Will Roll Their Eyes.’
Far many more will agree completely. They just won’t know what to do to force the House to act.
Let’s see how high we can get this???!!!
EXCELLENT post,
Digg it please?
To get a conviction it will require 2/3 of the Senate voting together. This means about 16 Republicans will have to vote with all the Democrats and Independents for conviction. Considering that the Republicans are still with few exceptions voting in lockstep with Bush, it is a virtual impossibility to happen. However there is no such requirement in the House, a simple majority will do. So the question is-is a futile exercise in the next few months worth it? If Bush wants to invade Iran he can, even though on trial. Will the trial illuminate what is going on sufficiently and timely enough to be to the advantage of the Democrats or will it energize the Republican base and give them talking points to get McCain elected? Impeachment is a political act and no matter how noble the motivations, can still be used by the opposition to their advantage, so is to be considered with caution especially this close to the election. IMHO this bastard (and his little dog Cheney too) [edited ] so the world can see that the American people through their system will eventually get it right. Another political act that could go a long way to rebuilding our reputation around the globe. Alas it won’t happen, and probably shouldn’t, except for the trial part.
[Mod: Please do not advocate violence, thanks]
Spotlight, too, to MSM TV. Matthews, Abrams, Gregory, Shuster… sheer force of numbers must have some effect?
OT but finally figured out the McBush Carter reference…..
Local Phoenix morning news….. new poll (no info on source)
“Americans are MORE afraid of long gas lines than the HIGH price of gas”
OMG….. now I get it….. Carter == long lines for gas == gas rationing
Scarecrow, thank you for this most excellent post. I was so disappointed that many of the blogs I respect most were completely silent about Kuchinich’s lonely heroism.
thanks!
the other two are at:
senate foreign relations
house foreign affairs
I listened to an interview with some journalist from Cleveland yesterday on CSpan, and she (the journalist) kept referring to Kucinich’s bill as a “spectacle”. At the end she even laughed, as she invited everyone to sit back and view the “spectacle” like she was going to do.
ON CSPAN!
How and why would THAT happen?!? Why didn’t CSpan at least talk to someone who is neutral, as journalists are supposed to be, if not supportive of the Senator’s message??? I was/am saddened, and appalled at CSpan!
Does anyone know when the House votes on Kucinich’s Impeachment resolution?
Don’t be so sure the votes won’t be there in the Senate. Once hearings start and then the actual trial starts in the Senate, the press will be forced to actually pay more attention to the charges. Even with one tenth the attention to these charges that the Clinton charges got, it will be obvious that Bush has broken many laws and should be removed. Public pressure to remove Bush and Cheney will be immense when there is some attention in the press.
I noticed that even my Gooper Senator, Mel Martinez changed sides this week and voted with the Dems on a global warming bill. Many R’s are getting very nervous right now (some prognosticators now put the D’s almost in range of 60 seats in the Senate for 2009) and might just see a vote to impeach or convict as their ticket to staying in office.
oops, Kucinich’s. I can’t spell any better than that bimbo on Fox…’there’s no “d” in soldier…shit.
Censure???
Censure would be as politically damaging yet without any effect towards re-establishing the Constitution and the rule of law.
Censure is for wimps.
ITMFA
Jane for VP
No? Ok then Sebelius for VP.
Jane has a new post ready.
There was a line in the American President by the Pres.
“I was so busy keeping my job I forgot to Do my job”
I think that applies to about 535 people in Congress.
Does anyone know of a link to the text of Kucinich’s 35 articles?
That is in the current Congress, no? In the next Congress, when the trial would probably take place, there will, I’m pretty sure, be a larger Dem. majority.
here is a link from CSPAN
http://www.c-span.org/pdf/bush_impeach.pdf
I can’t believe that the House Democrats don’t seriously consider the fact that the Republicans are not going to lie down and lose the general election. Bushco has committed too many crimes to go quietly into that good night. They will attack Iran or carry out a false flag attack – anything by any means to hold onto the executive branch. Impeachment hearings may be the only way to prevent this. Although I suppose it could trigger an act of desperation by the administration. Things may have already gone to far to stop them.
If the politics are so dangerous now, then let us wait until November 5. There will be several lame duck Republican Senators who might be convinced to grow a set before they leave in December.
However. Impeachment must become a familiar part of the political discussion now.
ITMFA
Nice post, Scarecrow. Our country is in a sad state of affairs. I was disappointed in the senate yesterday. The only positive note is that it clearly establishes the GOP as the corporate shills that they are.
I do not understand why we are not regulating the Oil industry. Oil is the lifeblood of our economy and we are at the mercy of some corrupt traders on the futures market????
Do we allow Insurance companies to trade in futures on Auto policies? No. Oil prices should be based solely on the cost to produce and allow for a profit premium. No futures market to artificially create prices.
Barbara Boxer was great, though. She laid it out in no uncertain terms. The Rs have laid down with Big Oil and the People aren’t going to have it.
I just hope she is right. I don’t have much faith in the People any longer.
and the heating season doesn’t begin (at least the bills don’t start coming in) until after the election. How convenient. I don’t think people quite get yet what it will cost to heat their homes this winter.
OPEC embargo, gas shortages, long gas lines, gas rationing… happened under Gerald Ford, not Carter.
Carter sponsored alternative energy initiatives. Some of these even worked. Reagan had these all wiped out and most of the solar heating industry was wiped out.
Remember:
Gas shortages = Republican President
Gas rationing = Republican President
Record high Gas Prices = Republican President.
Stop this crap about laying the energy crisis of the 70’s at Carter’s feet. It was Gerald Ford.
Quite honestly, people from Ohio, Mich, Northwestern PA, and Northeastern IN, who read here, need to plan a “Thank you road trip” to Dennis’ offices in Cleveland on the same day and quietly stand outside with signs that state “Thank you”, have all the 35 articles written on individual signs and several “impeachment now” signs. But I want Cheney out first.
I suspect, gone are the days of peaceful protest in huge numbers because people are self-censoring…
If the price of gas would keep you from a trip, people should gather near their local government or Rep’s office with “Thank you Kucinich” signs and the articles…
Scarcrow, great post. Can you build on it (the sadness and anger) to create some stir here for people to gather? If Ohio State or U of M can fill a stadium with 100,000+ for football. Surely the Constitution deserves at least 100,000 for media attention???
If I can also suggest that all of us write thank letters to Dennis Kucinich and cc copies to Pelosi and other leading Dems (a mail storm) perhaps we can generate some kind of redirection for the country. Make sure you get friends to do it too.
Kucinich contact addresses:
Lakewood Office
14400 Detroit Avenue
Lakewood, Ohio 44107
Phone (216)228-8850
Fax (216)228-6465
Parma Office
Parmatown Mall
7904 Day Drive
Parma, Ohio 44129
Phone (440)845-2707
Fax (440)845-2743
Washington Office
2445 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515
Phone (202)225-5871
Fax (202)225-5745
Pelosi:
District Office – 450 Golden Gate Ave. – 14th Floor – San Francisco, CA 94102 – (415) 556-4862 –
Washington, D.C. Office – 235 Cannon HOB – Washington, DC 20515 – (202) 225-4965
Here is a letter I drafted to send to Congress with footnote links to supporting info. Feel free to use what you want.
On June 9, 2008, Representative Dennis Kucinich of Ohio presented a resolution of 35 articles of impeachment against President George W. Bush(1). It took Rep. Kucinich five hours to read out the litany of our seven and a half year nightmare in which we have watched the country we love turn into a lawless dictatorship, twisted by a president and vice-president who hold themselves above the law and will use any means to cover up their anti-constitutional deeds.
The sentiment of the public for change is clear, and recent special elections and polls have shown that many Republican officeholders are in jeopardy of losing their jobs. Indeed, a majority of Americans have favored impeaching President Bush for misleading the country about Iraq (2)and for illegal wiretapping (3). I fear that a looming defeat in November and the risk of exposure will lead the Bush administration to take desperate measures. They are already acting to consolidate and make permanent (or at least very difficult to reverse) many of their objectionable policies (4). A very worst case would be for the Bush administration to go to war with Iran and declare emergency powers which is in their capability to do (5).
With all this in mind, I urge you not to bury Rep. Kucinich’s resolution in committee, but to initiate hearings into the charges he makes. I have heard Congress members say it is a waste of time or a distraction, but I can’t think of anything more essential to restoring our country’s Constitution and the Rule of Law than to bring the Bush administration’s ongoing abuse of power into the light of day. If no action is taken by Congress to stop the Bush administration and they do take drastic action to retain power, we can only conclude that it is with the consent of Congress. And if Congress waits for some overt action like attacking Iran before acting, it will be too late because the executive orders themselves keep Congress from reviewing the action (6).
Please act while there is still time. There are 222 days left until Jan. 20, 2009. It took 181 to impeach Bill Clinton. The high crimes and misdemeanors of George W. Bush far outweigh Clinton’s infraction and deserve at least as much time, energy, and attention to restore our nation.
1 http://kucinich.house.gov/News…..ntID=93581
2 http://www.democrats.com/bush-impeachment-poll-1
3 http://www.democrats.com/bush-impeachment-poll-2
4 http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/…..isid=00338
5 http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind…..ted_States
6 See Executive Order 11921.
Reclaiming one’s integrity begins with admitting the wrongness of the actions which led to its demise. This, McClennan does not appear to be prepared to do. Even now, he asserts as justification for his lies from the podium the fact that he was just doing his job. If this is to be taken as sufficient justification then Nuremberg was pointless.
Fabulous. Thanks! I just asked a coworker if she wanted a copy. First she’d heard of articles of impeachment… Sigh.
McClatchy did a great job yesterday in addressing how gas prices can be lowered:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/40360.html
A synopsis of the three points is at comment 36 here:
http://emptywheel.firedoglake……october-4/
Someone please tell me about ANWAR. I have read and believed that if opened up for drilling and destruction, it would provide only about 6 months of heating/fuel/gasoline (not sure which, or all) for the US.
Last night on one of the MSNBC shows some blonde talk radio woman kept insisting that the Dems were blocking our energy independence by blocking drilling in ANWAR. The host did not refute this.
Another thing that infuriated me. On David Gregory’s show the other night Rachel Maddow was cut short from challenging an untrue statement by some Repub shill by his interrupting and saying that “we’re not going to settle this here…” Where the Hell ELSE is it going to be settled, if not out in the open where people can hear the truth, for once? Did he not learn ANYTHING in the past few weeks of media ‘introspection’ after Scottie’s remarks? What the Hell is wrong with these people???
As far as I’m concerned David Gregory isn’t worth the oxygen he uses.
There are many sources for this. Here’s one from the Guardian.
The oil under this wilderness will last the US six months. But soon the drilling will begin
Thank you, Bilbo. What a shame that we must learn the truth about our country from the Independent and the Guardian….
Great and sad post Scarecrow.
I sure would like to see some folks in the House step up shoulder to shoulder with Congressman Kucinich…
I would also like to see Dodd, Whitehouse and others in the Senate show strong support.
Victoria–
Please don’t quote me . . . I’m old, my memory is less than sharp, and I seem to co-mingle ‘facts’. That said, I believe I heard one hearing (months ago) that said ANWAR would provide less than 10% of our oil needs; that most of it would not be sold ‘domestically’; and that production would be years in the offing. Aha! I thought . . . just a way to further erode environmental issues. Once open, economics would ALWAYS outstrip environmental issues.
Charlie Rangel is no longer a member of the House Judiciary Committee, he is now Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee.
This from Asian Times irt oil pricing:
More here:
http://www.axilltv.com/at/news.php?id=11435
I have the same problem, believe me. Thank you, I think I heard or read that same information but had forgotten where. I used to pride myself on my memory for details…..sigh!
CONGRESS HAS THE OBLIGATION TO STOP ALL BUSINESS UNTIL THIS MATTER IS THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATED VIA IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS.
Greydog, I think that folks will be more open to hearing your views if you do not write in all capital letters, thanks.
(((Scarecrow))) Thank you!!!
Ok folks. The question is what are we going to do about it? Ekunin said ” The fact is we, as individual citizens, are powerless.” Is that the general consensus? I have seen only 2 other suggestions so far 1) call your Repres. and 2) revolt, in the pitchfork sense.
First, the belief that we are powerless is the final nail in the coffin and its acceptance guarantees that we are lost. If you believe that then all these postings will serve no other purpose than to blow off steam.
Second, I agree that we all need to call our Congress people. I did that yesterday. But the question is what do we tell them? Do we simply say we want them to support impeachment? Do we rant and rail about the administration? Will we really go so far as to tell them we will hold them accountable if they do not? If we don’t say that, see “First” above. If we do say that what will we tell them “hold(ing) accountable” means? I submit that anything short of of informing them that we will NOT vote for them or the representative of their party (the now sainted Obama) if they do not, will be useless (refer to “First” again). The only power we the people have is our vote. The only thing pols need more than money is votes; indeed the main thing they need the money for is to buy advertising time (euphemistically called “campaign spots”) to sell themselves. The problem for “progressives” so far is that we have allowed the Dems to take us for granted. We complain, march, petition, cajole, reason, plead, etc., but in the end the Dems know we will vote for them (see #80) no matter what they do because they know that all they have to do is pull out their boogyman – the scarey Republican. (Why do you suppose they haven’t impeached him so far? – they need him, he serves the same purpose for them as bin Laden served for Bush). And this ploy works every time! Amazing! Site after site I have visited, the trend is so consistent that it approaches a law of nature. After all the marvelous legitimate complaints about the Dems pusillanimity, weakness, cowardice, betrayal, etc, the comment invariably is made “but we must support them because they are better than the Rep.” And then the discussion ceases and we revert to “First”. Clinton pushed NAFTA and we voted for him in ‘96. We marched in Seattle then voted for free trader Gore in ‘00. We marched all over the country then voted for pro war Kerry in ‘04. And now I suspect we are about to do it again – vote for a Dem who MANIFESTLY does not support the things we know we need; his healthcare plan is a disaster, even he admits it won’t cover everybody, his Iraq proposal leaves thousands of troops and contractors (?including Blackwater) in Irag, he will do no more than put lipstick on the pig of NAFTA/WTO (ask the Canadians who received assurances to that effect), etc. etc. And yet I predict that the majority of people who post here will vote for him, because “the Rep. is worse”. So, tell me, why would any Dem risk losing their “ace in the hole” (Bush in office) for the sake of a sllly little thing like “principle”, aka the Constitution, when they know they don’t have to to keep our vote.
And if we do threaten to vote elsewhere, will we follow through? So far, as noted above, we chicken out every time and they know it, yay, they are counting on it. Yes, folks, we must, as God awful as it sounds, make it clear to the Dems that we are prepared to accept another Rep. regime if they don’t straighten up and do what they must, because, by now, we have finally figured out that even if they are marginally better, they are not good enough. We have figured out by now that, as they are currently constituted, we will continue to go downhill under their governance, that we are drawing a line in the sand and if they want to be elected they must do better.
I must confess that I do not understand why so many people don’t seem to get this. We have lost over a decade in the futile “hope” the Dems will kick their money addiction. If we really do want the kind of change that amounts to more than 4 quarters for a dollar, we need to exhibit some “tough love”. Will this mean that we will be hurting more too? Yeah, but we can pay now or pay more later. I guarantee you that as soon as enough of us make it clear that we, in fact, WILL NOT support them without their commitment to a)impeachment, b)single payer, etc. etc. they will change. Indeed that is the ONLY effective mechanism for inducing them to do what is right (as in correct).
To support them in Nov. in the absence of such commitments on their part to me is like participating in the insanity of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
Pro. Turley was spot on in advocating for Clinton’s impeachment and the matters were totally related to the conduct of the Office of the Presidency. Clinton’s “crimes” were committed during working hours, in the Office, when he was supposed to be conducting the business of the people. As the President, he swore to uphold the laws of the U.S. and as an officer of the court, to do the same. He violated his oaths by committing perjury and was eventually disbarred. And just as important, he lied to the American people. IMO, he disgraced the Office and should have resigned.
How to contact Nancy Pelosi -
http://www.house.gov/pelosi/contact/contact.html
http://www.speaker.gov/contact
Current Elected Office Contact Information
Contact Rep. Nancy Pelosi at sf.nancy@mail.house.gov
Website: http://www.house.gov/pelosi
Washington, D.C. Office:
235 Cannon House Office Building,
District of Columbia 20515-0508
Phone: (202) 225-4965
Fax: (202) 225-8259
San Francisco Office: (more district offices)
Burton Federal Building 450 Golden Gate Avenue
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Phone: (415) 556-4862
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There are just enough yahoos and jarheads around to pursue the Junta’s cause. I’m thinking of the fools in the military as well as the knaves in Congress.
…fools and blackguards in the military and paramilitary…
England spent three generations — from the Boer War in South Africa at the turn of the 19th-20th centuries to the 1960’s-70’s influx of colored peoples from the Caribbean, East Africa and Hong Kong — bemoaning the loss of empire. Movies (Ganhdi), books (The Raj Quartet, aka, The Jewel in the Crown [of empire, ie, India] and politicians spent another generation laying blame as the facts were slowly acknowledged and a new vision of England in Europe replaced a British Empire on which the sun never set and where the “wogs” began at Calais.
They still wrestle with it: the Falklands War (1982); Hong Kong returned to China (1987-97); the pound, not the euro; and the halting assimilation of people of color, who’ve become doctors, barristers and property developers, instead of the Paki bus driver, the newsagent/tobacconist and the rioter in Brixton and Notting Hill (where rioters could no longer afford to live).
The “winds of change” that forced those developments on a reluctant England were largely outside forces — war, economic competition, the yearning of many peoples to be free — coupled with physical and financial exhaustion. The debacle that is the CheneyBush administration we’ve done to ourselves. But it brings the same things: war, demands to be free of military occupation and economic subservience, and physical and financial exhaustion. It also brings with it the Surveillance State, which has acquired all of government’s “water rights”, and which may ultimately turn green civil pastures into desert.
Many of us haven’t yet or refuse to recognize how deeply scarred the CheneyBush administration will leave us. Just as threatening, many refuse to recognize how much its adherents will fight to maintain their ability simultaneously to suckle at the public teat while poisoning an exhausted mother government.
CheneyBush have corrupted government and the language of public discourse. They’ve dismantled much and bent the remainder to subsidizing war and corporate profits. (At least they’ve abandoned the fantasy of Reagan’s “trickle down” economics; they let nothing escape but heartache.) Unless we recognize that, unless we look at what’s been done in our name but not for our benefit, we won’t be able to sustain the will to recover from their misdeeds. “Letting bygones be bygones” would ensure our civil demise, not restore our spirit or our selves.
Representative Kucinich’s articles of impeachment may be tilting at windmills, but we remember Don Quixote four hundred years later because he tried. If impeachment is impracticable, then an organized, empowered and funded Truth and Reconciliation Commission – a better, refined 9/11 Commission for a post-Bush America – is not. We desperately need it.
While I said the individual is powerless, I did not say there is nothing we can do. We must think outside the box. I don’t have faith in representative democracy. I doubt a vote for Barr or Nader, even if sufficient for them to win, will change things. Nor do I think writing, calling or picketing our Congress people will do it.
Having stated the problem, I wish I could suggest a solution. Remember the writer’s strike? Could we have mounted an effective we won’t go to the movies campaign? Yes and No. Yes we can do it, but No it didn’t happen. Why? People don’t like doing things alone and we don’t trust each other sufficiently to follow through with anything that originates on the Internet. If lots of us ordinary people could do something that’s legal and not especially demanding, the powers that be would take notice. Something verifiable. Say all of us agree not to mail anything on Thursday. Were it successful, it would give us a taste of people power, but how do we verify nothing got mailed? We are the solution, but we must act. BS won’t take us very far.
Attempts in comments 150 and 151 to inflame readers by using “jarheads” (a name Marines call themselves) and “fools in the military” seem to be intended to draw readers to the commenter’s linked site, which has only an artistic rendering of Tolkien’s Fangorn.
That argument never held water: the founding fathers designed it so that the Speaker is 3rd in line AND all impeachment proceedings originate in the House. It’s Pelosi’s JOB to allow impeachment proceedings to occur when they are warranted. Appearances be damned.
Devastating post Scarecrow. Painful and true.