Hell, the McCain camp had to roll out a mash note from Gary Bauer today -- on the National Review Online, no less -- to try and sway wayward GOP doubters of McCain's sexual purity bona fides. So it looks like the usual GOP suspects are less-than-sold on McCain as well.
Can the nation afford another four years of a presidency based on pandering to the anti-science crowd? When it comes to John McCain, he wants to encourage you to say no. At least that's what he says when he's courting evangelical voters:
The Arizona lawmaker is scheduled to speak Sunday night to about 1,500 middle and high school students about abstaining from premarital sex. Abstinence and abortion loom large as issues in this first-in-the-South primary state in the heart of the Bible Belt.
"Senator McCain has a long legislative record of supporting abstinence-based initiatives in his record in the U.S. Senate," said Trey Walker, McCain's South Carolina campaign director. "He thinks that abstinence is healthier and should be promoted in our society for young people."
Because nothing says "keep that aspirin between your legs, girls" like a hot dog social with John McCain. Yeppers.
(YouTube on McCain's sex education "plans" via the fine folks at Brave New Films and The Real McCain.)
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ZED! Zed is dead…long live Zed!!
Flash Alert: Obama sez….well you won’t believe me so clik on thru and make up your own mind. You know that meme ‘McSame will put someone you don’t like on SCOTUS..so don’t vote for him…’
‘Member that?
Google Doug Kmiec and get ready to let yer blood boil.
Leave it to foul-mouthed fembloggers to smear
a sensible, nuanced, Broderiffic centrist
Tailhookermaverick like John McCain.It should be easy for Johnny McTeleprompter to teach the 1,500 middle schoolers to abstain from sex. He looks like a creepy old man in Wal-Mart clothing and will be talking sex with these kids! That right there would make any young person not want to have sex!
1,870 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON…
Citizen Hardin Smith and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Are the Obama folks gunna be able ta push this anti-choice and CroMagnon family values guy out into the open ta get the white middle class “soccer moms” ta open their eyes here. After all these are the same women who supported NARL and Joe Likuderman even after Alito and Roberts…and they are the same women Mrs. Bill is tryin’ ta use as a “movement” to force herself on the ticket.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THE WAR IS NOT OVER…JEST ASK AN IRAQI!!
Sorry OT, but oopps…
‘Police are investigating a “serious” security breach after a civil servant lost top-secret documents containing the latest intelligence on al-Qaeda.’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7449255.stm
jeebus, it’s 2008, and women still aren’t allowed to have, let alone enjoy, sex?
*sigh*
then how comes we’re wired for the passion?
Did you read this?
http://www.catholic.org/printe.....on=Cathcom
Abstinence-only education is criminal. Youth so “educated” are unprepared and myth-filled when the urge for sex strikes — and it does. Onset is only very slightly delayed, and the incidence of disease and pregnancy is higher than for students exposed to comprehensive sex education.
It’s a terrible shame that the Democratic Congress continues to fund abstinence-only education.
I am abstaining right now… and it doesn’t make me want to vote McCain. /s
I hope one of the students asks him if he abstained from pre-marital sex with his current wife.
Kids, if you want some fun, Mr. McCain is your man. He’s always laughing, having fun showing his films in the den.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsbaJtIRTVM
Did you hear about the woman who fell asleep while eating popcorn and woke up to find a colonel between her legs?
Well it works better verbally than in writing.
My favorite part was that they had to get Gary Bauer to write a two-page article in National Review Online to vouch for his anti-choice bona fides. Because the GOP doesn’t trust McCain any further than they could pick him up and heave him.
Pa. The. Tic.
please please please
Gary Bauer? didn’t he have a little problem with way young campaign volunteers?
McCain is a paragon of virtue, if that’s what you want him to be. He’ll bring back the fifties complete with atomic explosions.
McCain spokesman, Gary Bauer. Hmmm. Maybe we should write supportive letters.
Yeah, kind of a “hey, old man, you can talk the talk, but did you walk the walk?” question.
I think it’s a really fair question. Young people shouldn’t be lectured about their behavior by people with absolutely no credibility on the topic. Does McCain have any bona fides on this subject whatsoever?
I think not.
Nope, but I heard about the people being arrested at a high school graduation because they applauded one of their own as he/she got walked across the stage to get their diploma. LOL
Okay back to your comment…
McTeleprompter would side with the colonel that the woman didn’t say ‘no’. Asshole, he is.
Do as I vote not as I do.
These Repubs talking about sex make me feel as if I need a shower - icky.
Seriously, abstinence isn’t for everyone, just the wimmins
Okay, I’m going to admit it. My 14 year old son has a “girlfriend” (break-ups between 3rd & 5th periods has happened already). ;-) I asked him, “Have you kissed yet?”, and he said they had. I said, “Okay, I’m getting you some condoms”, and he turned beet red and said, “Gawd Ma! You don’t need to do that!!!!”. I trust him. I always tell him to treat a girl the same way he’d want his mother treated on a date. He’ll be a virgin forever. LOL
I doubt McCane will take questions, but if he does, I hope someone asks him about all of his flings during his marriage as a naval officer.
Come on, that’s like Keith Richards preaching against drug use.
Say wha? *giving you a V8 juice bonk to the temple* ;-)
And what he did before marriage too.
SOmeone ought to ask McCain how many innocent children around the world (who have never had sex) has he supported murdering anyway?
Good evening all. Thanks Christy!
Cassie Snarkassandra had a series of good posts on abstinence only education. In my opinion, this one was the best. Kids need real sex education.
Thanks Christy, bullseye, as per usual.
digg
Crown Prince McStupid the VIII decrees..:
Because I McGigalo deem so…women must practice abstinence..unless..I McGigalo deem them trollops and *unts and wish to cheat iwth them…then they may fornicate and cheat whenever appropriate If they become impregnated…they will be sent to Iraq for 100 years to “serve” the troops with their unwanted children on their hips.
Because I McBush deem so…troops may not expect to ever go home to their
trollop *untwives…because it just doesn’t matter.Because I McAngry spent years imprisoned, ye shall have no pleasures…unless I McBush the III…shall so deem.
Will the real McCain please stand up.
HuffPo has a piece up on the front page about Carville suggesting Gore for veep, which I saw earlier on SitRoom…I’ve been wondering ever since if Mr. Matalin was lurkin’ on Jane’s Sebelius thread earlier today *g*
Christy, everything about McCain is so anti-woman, anti-family in its harsh, authoritarian neocon way…his votes against SCHIP, his pro-life for fetuses but not, apparently, for troops in harm’s way or overstressed to the point where they commit suicide or have serious mental health issues or missing limbs, and the like.
I hope this posting is only a piece of the overall teaching moments we all carry forward, through the blogosphere and in active campaign working and support through the election. Not only must the voting populace get to know Obama, they must get to know the real McCain. [my take, total misogynist, but I may be a tad biased… so Ross Perot’s take will do.]
More and better Democrats.
oh, and Joe “Judas Goat” Lieberman? My contempt for him is as for the dung under the heel of my shoe.
I’d love to be in the room when that question is asked! Or when one of the kiddos asks him about orgasms. The Generation Gap would be very apparent. ;-)
McCain talking about sex to young people will stunt their growth.
Permanently traumatized..
Thats like kissing yer Granda and gettin the tongue.
I doubt he’s given it a bit of a thought, ES
Gag….spit, spit, spit…
You know, you can train a dog to sit…even a dog in heat. They’ll sit as long as you are right there, but the minute you leave, ain’t gonna happen. It’s nature.
Humans have instincts, but further, they have emotions which include love, but also showing their parents a thing or two.
I knew I’d get someone with that one. Sorry.
Heh heh heh.
Ding.
LOVE. People love their families and want to be home with them.
McMoron.
Meanie…gag…pththththth
I’d prefer for him to sit down. Or better yet, lie down.
Dugg…. Nice Post Christy:>)
But wait~ hang on! It occurs to me that if we simply gave talks to the men and boys, and put the onus on them to refrain from sex, then our teen pregnancy rates would just plummet.
Right? Why even bother talking to the women, they can’t impregnate themselves. Man, how come this hasn’t been tried before? I’m gonna get me a $1.5 million government grant and go around giving talks.;)
Brain Bleach for you Busted… Remember Shark tits!!
LOL!
It’s been a long, wicked day, I’m going to have a couple.
See ya’s later.
Brilliant! Let’s set up a program and run it by Hagee. This has potential! (For money, not success!)
I think it is clear that McCain lacks a certain fundamental emotion…
That explains leaving your handicapped wife, when her “modelness” was maimed.
That explains marrying a new younger “babe” who is an heiress.
That explains calling that wife a *unt and a trollop.
That explains not caring about women’s issues in general.
That explains having no problem being complicit in families being destroyed by incendiary weapons in the surge that he supports.
The man is heartless and really, really stupid.
Emotionally arrested….a “fortunate son”…with no conscience.
Worse than Bush.
This will break your heart, yet be proud of her:
“Nujood says that at first, she felt ashamed about what had happened to her. “But I passed through that,” she says, eyes narrowing beneath her black head scarf.”
Yemen child bride Nujood Ali gets divorce
Some young woman should ask McCain who scored ZERO why any woman should listen to him about anything at all? (respectfully, of course)
Not only will McSame veto beer, now he’s going to veto sex! wow, just wow.
How’s that going to play with the the Hillary voters?
I take it Christy is telling me to go fuck my husband’s brains out.
Tell me later if I got this post all wrong.
LOL I have to say…my grandmother who died at the age of 93 right after 9/11/01 was still talking to us grandkids about masturbation. Yep. See what results when you have a strong Democratic liberal woman as a grandmother who went through 2 horrible abusive marriages and wanted to always get the word out to us girls that you don’t need a man to make you happy? This is the same woman who was spitting and sputtering on her death bed about the Bush family by telling us not to trust any of them and how nothing good was going to come out of 9/11 for our nation. ;-)
you make me think of the drive to get young girls vaccinated against Human papillomavirus (HPV), why not vaccinate boys as well? What’s up with that?
I suspect sex for him is a non-emotional action…it’s all about power and what he gets out of it. He seems incapable of relating to the emotions of other human beings. Why else the obsession with war…why else the obsession with arm candy.
He is an empty suit.
Or arm Cindy. Or arm Vicky.
McCain is worse than Bush b/c Bush laid the groundwork for him. The US is nearly totally hollowed out. Ready for Obama to turn it around or McBush to finish us off.
Well, I suppose vetoing beer could help out with diminishing lots of unwanted-steamy-one-night-stand sex. See? ;-)
That is where we stand.
Talk about cruel and inhumane…
oh, the beautiful synergy of the blogosphere. Here’s George Carlin on the subject of conservatives: pro-life, anti-woman.
Link found in a comment in the HuffPo piece on the coming conservative demonization against Michelle Obama.
When they attack Michelle, when they attack responsible sex education, when they attack a woman’s right to choose, when they attack [fill in your blank]….they attack all women.
Isn’t the “vetoing beer” some kind of covert slam at Cindy, who controls his purse strings? It struck me that way when I heard it.
I read something a year or so ago about that…I recall they mainly wanted to vaccinate girls, because they wanted to prevent cervical cancers that are caused by HPV. And the vaccine’s not cheap. I wonder if they’ll widen the pool of vaccine recipients as years go by, if the vaccine gets cheaper.
Is Mr Doodle a happy doodle?
Exactly. McTeleprompter sucks big time. The nerve of him vetoing beer! LOL
here’s the very best political advertisement I have ever seen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....06511.html
Yep. That one pretty much sums it up!
He show’s his disrespect for Cindy every time they appear together in public. He ignores her. She walks behind him. I really do feel bad for Cindy. Must be the way her father treated her…
by the way, kayinmain turned me on to that, it’s great
oh, maybe cost explains it. Just seems to me that since HPV is transmitted from person to person that all persons should be treated. I can’t imagine it’s fun for anyone to have it so as it is — aside from the cervical cancer risk.
oops, I tried to give you credit before you read my post…missed it by that much
Good gawd…
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/.....ral-bench/
McTeleprompter is not the least of our worries!
tried to give you credit but too late, kay I don’t think I’ve ever seen a better add, thanx for turning me on to it and I have linked far and wide
Oh, my goodness. This has to be one of the funniest thread of comments I’ve read in a long time.
But, Busted’s granda’s tongue take the cake…along with the pft pft pft responses.
Hilarious.
Thanks, guys….
Just what I needed. Although I might have to get some oysters for dinner. :
Don’t give credit to me. Like you, I’m just the “disseminator” of information stuff. ;-)
That is funny!
Alright fine, *bending you over the back of the couch & kissing you*.
Okay, I went too far with that one…
;-)
I thought the Senate had to approve those.
I have one thing to say about abstenance;
“just say no to it”
there, I said it
*hopes girlfriend reads firedoglake*
Honestly, I’m not sure.
Oh gawd…
http://www.stltoday.com/stltod.....enDocument
that is unbelieveable, how did he get confirmed?
My son’s testicular cancer was discerned by his girlfriend, who insisted he get examined. I, one of those liberal mothers who tried to teach responsibility rather than abstinence, was pretty darned glad that my son had a girlfriend who had sense! Jesus.
I don’t know! *balling my eyes out*
Unanimously.
just. shoot. me. now.
Here’s the confirmed list…
http://senate.gov/pagelayout/l....._confc.htm
House Republicans block jobless benefits extension. ’cause, you know, they’re all in company with their party’s presumed nominee…
Why are Republicans persisting in their anti-family agenda?
I hope he all is well dearie
you cannot teach abstinence, teaching abstinence is the same thing as teaching “you should never breath”
it’s the same thing as teaching “you shouldn’t ever go to the bathroom”
when we are in the womb we have not reached the stage of development to breath or even nourish for ourselves, but once we leave the womb we will not survive unless we begin those processes
nor are we in the stage of development to have a drive to procreate until we reach adolescence, however once reached it is as powerful as the will to survive
if you believe in god, it is even a commandment, “go forth and multiply”, if you believe in evolution then you know the will to procreate is part of the evolutionary process
nothing you can do about it, if you aren’t having sex with someone else you are having it with yourself, if you aren’t having it with yourself consciously you are having it unconsciously when you are asleep
you cannot teach abstinance, you will fail
until you’ve passed that stage of your development
but the will to procreate is as powerful as the will to survive
holy frigging crap
*blush*
Jared Bernstein was on the News Hour (PBS) just yesterday (IIRC) saying that extending jobless benefits would give a multiplier effect of 1.7:1 and is the most effective way to stimulate the economy. Figures the rethugs would kill it - the “wrong people” would get something from “their” tax dollars.
Republicans = Fatcat values
Democrats = Family Values
I don’t think it’s all about procreation. I think there is a desire to meld, to blend, to share energy, to seek bliss with another, and so on. It’s a human desire to ‘be with’ — and that desire can be very responsible without procreation. And those who are all abstinence-oriented are nuts, in my opinion. Or maybe just cold.
Nice catch, thanks.
New post above. ;-)
If you really want to see him blush, tell him he should practice putting one on some time when he’s by himself. As a pediatrician, I’ve said that more than once. You’ll probably get an “Ew, gross!” response, but I’ll give you good odds that he WILL try it at some point, which will make him a little more prepared when the time comes.
I’ve also told girls that they should be able to put one on their boyfriend if he isn’t interested in doing it himself. Half of the girls think I’m nuts, and the other half raise their eyebrows with one of those knowing looks that says, “You know, that’s a REALLY good idea.”
You’re right. It is!
So, what I want to know is, if we get the government that we are hoping and praying for, where will we find humor?
The one we have now is just so ripe!
bet the majority are just plain hypocrites.
I can’t argue against your point, I agree with it
what I am saying is it’s more then that, it is a necessity, a drive that cannot be constrained or taught away
you cannot teach abstinence, if your child is normal you will fail
I can’t argue against your point, I agree with it
what I am saying is it’s more then that, it is a necessity, a drive that cannot be constrained or taught away
you cannot teach abstinence, if your child is normal you will fail
those that claim they are abstinant who are past the age of adolesance yet still verile…they are liars
than
then
sorry…couldn’t keep my finners silent
8~P
I agree, of course.
And I agree that procreation is probably the initial biological urge … but we’ve evolved, and I think humanity found that the sexual urge is warm, funny, delightful, anxious…etc., etc. I believe that our children deserve to know that their desires may run wild, but that they can be both safe and responsible and serious and joyful. I hate the ‘just say no’ mentality. It’s primitive and purposeless and negates human reality.
wow
I watched it three times, ’cause I shared it with the other two people I live with, and now I’ve got that darn song running thru my mind….
I maintain that Republicans have no values. I am prepared to present ample documentation supporting this statement.
A serial adulterer, a former Naval Aviator who always has his stick in one hand and a bottle in the other, instructing our youth in abstinence-only education. My. Let’s not let hypocrisy or science get in the way of theocracy.
It’s been known for decades that accurate, age-appropriate sexuality education delays the age at which sexual activity starts, reduces unwanted pregnancies and reduces the incidence of sexually transmitted diseases.
Unlike McCain’s earlier days as a CongressCritter and Naval Aviator, where it took a good case of the clap to get your wings, STD’s today cannot all be cured by time, a bottle of bourbon and wishful thinking, or even antibiotics. Several are fatal; untreated, all are dangers to public health. Moreover, pregnancies and STD’s are only a small part of the toll exacted by denying accurate sexuality education. Needlessly flawed self-images and relationships - based on shamefully incomplete and inaccurate information - exact a greater toll.
The GOP prefers pandering to religious fantasies (and voters) more than it does making informed policies based on the best public health information available - in a country that imagines itself to have the best medical staff and services in the world. If that’s what they call responsible public health policy, I’ll bet they call cutting off a mountain top to get a pound of coal and dumping it in the nearby streams “environmental management”.
Well stated, your lordship. This comment needs to get up-lifted. There’s this crazy EPUed thing. Maybe a mod can explain and make your salient comment come on again where someone will actually read it.
I recommend that the Congressional medical staff practice abstinence-only treatment. Two aspirin for heart attacks, stroke, gout, hangovers, incontinence and erectile dysfunction. Works for pregnancy. Ought to work to keep our representatives as healthy as their policies do us.