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	<title>Comments on: The Press Seems Unable To Hear Those Obama Dog Whistles</title>
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		<title>By: wangdangdoodle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/09/the-press-seems-unable-to-hear-those-obama-dog-whistles/#comment-1488046</link>
		<dc:creator>wangdangdoodle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, Ellie. I Spotlighted it to him with the suggestion.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ellie. I Spotlighted it to him with the suggestion.</p>
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		<title>By: bonkers</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/09/the-press-seems-unable-to-hear-those-obama-dog-whistles/#comment-1488044</link>
		<dc:creator>bonkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just a general suggestion, but you might want to stop using the term “mainstream media” and its variants.  There is nothing “mainstream” about Conglomerate-owned Media.  Associating BigMedia with mainstream thinking helps promote BigMedia’s deceptions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The real evil resides in mega-media outlets owned by multi-national conglomerates.  The Nation and Democracy Now are examples of media that report from a truly “mainstream” perspective.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a general suggestion, but you might want to stop using the term “mainstream media” and its variants.  There is nothing “mainstream” about Conglomerate-owned Media.  Associating BigMedia with mainstream thinking helps promote BigMedia’s deceptions.</p>
<p>The real evil resides in mega-media outlets owned by multi-national conglomerates.  The Nation and Democracy Now are examples of media that report from a truly “mainstream” perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: calscientist</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/09/the-press-seems-unable-to-hear-those-obama-dog-whistles/#comment-1488043</link>
		<dc:creator>calscientist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How does our calling out the press on this help McSame win?  Can you help me out here?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does our calling out the press on this help McSame win?  Can you help me out here?</p>
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		<title>By: ACitizen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/09/the-press-seems-unable-to-hear-those-obama-dog-whistles/#comment-1488038</link>
		<dc:creator>ACitizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe he don’t want McSame to win?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe he don’t want McSame to win?</p>
<p>Maybe?</p>
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		<title>By: calscientist</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/09/the-press-seems-unable-to-hear-those-obama-dog-whistles/#comment-1488033</link>
		<dc:creator>calscientist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes it is valuable BrendanX.  Why? Because lazy reporting by the MSMedia is pernicious and needs to be called out whenever it hits.  I do it as often as I can (eg, a lazy piece a few weeks back by an SF Chronicle reporter).  You are right that the article you took quotes from did alright.  But yes, when crap like this comes out not only should Obama fire back, we should, and we should let the media know we are watching. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the focus group question, I don’t have a problem, but was merely observing that this is probably what happened.  They are free to do whatever the hell they want, of course.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Finally, your knickers are really in a twist over this, dude. Are you a reporter or what?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it is valuable BrendanX.  Why? Because lazy reporting by the MSMedia is pernicious and needs to be called out whenever it hits.  I do it as often as I can (eg, a lazy piece a few weeks back by an SF Chronicle reporter).  You are right that the article you took quotes from did alright.  But yes, when crap like this comes out not only should Obama fire back, we should, and we should let the media know we are watching. </p>
<p>On the focus group question, I don’t have a problem, but was merely observing that this is probably what happened.  They are free to do whatever the hell they want, of course.  </p>
<p>Finally, your knickers are really in a twist over this, dude. Are you a reporter or what?</p>
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		<title>By: brendanx</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/09/the-press-seems-unable-to-hear-those-obama-dog-whistles/#comment-1488015</link>
		<dc:creator>brendanx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is this really useful news?  Reminding readers of Dukakis and Willie Horton is a valuable use of column space?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And what is the problem with this?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Separately, this confirms that they have done focus groups with women and find that the fear of crime issue is resonating with them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Face it, the issue of crime is a loser for Democrats and, taken in isolation, always will be because we believe in the rule of law under the Constitution, not Giuliani Time.  You either change the subject or counterrattack about the vaster Republican lawlessness.  It’s just a measure of Republican desperation (and the article actually hints at this) that they have to trot it out again.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Similarly, Obama, or any Democrat, even a white one, will never get the votes of tens of millions of non-urban Americans who just don’t like any of the Democratic coalition, much less blacks; we should be all the more keenly aware after that after Obama’s experiences in Appalachia and elsewhere. I have a feeling no article in the MSM about race-baiting ads would really satisfy anyone; whose mind could such an article possibly change?  I agree the headline, the lead in are bad, and that Floyd is the story, but it’s not that much of a story, really.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this really useful news?  Reminding readers of Dukakis and Willie Horton is a valuable use of column space?</p>
<p>And what is the problem with this?</p>
<blockquote><p>Separately, this confirms that they have done focus groups with women and find that the fear of crime issue is resonating with them.</p>
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<p>Face it, the issue of crime is a loser for Democrats and, taken in isolation, always will be because we believe in the rule of law under the Constitution, not Giuliani Time.  You either change the subject or counterrattack about the vaster Republican lawlessness.  It’s just a measure of Republican desperation (and the article actually hints at this) that they have to trot it out again.</p>
<p>Similarly, Obama, or any Democrat, even a white one, will never get the votes of tens of millions of non-urban Americans who just don’t like any of the Democratic coalition, much less blacks; we should be all the more keenly aware after that after Obama’s experiences in Appalachia and elsewhere. I have a feeling no article in the MSM about race-baiting ads would really satisfy anyone; whose mind could such an article possibly change?  I agree the headline, the lead in are bad, and that Floyd is the story, but it’s not that much of a story, really.</p>
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		<title>By: ACitizen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/09/the-press-seems-unable-to-hear-those-obama-dog-whistles/#comment-1488012</link>
		<dc:creator>ACitizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe….just maybe the ‘Game On!…Fired Up!…Ready to Go!…’ Obama campaign can come out jabbin’ and uppercuttin and just plain hammerin’ the Republicans with a series of well-thought out, doable plans to solve some of our most pressing problems.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How would that be. Run on policy instead of race, gender, and all the rest of the lies and slime the ReThugs are so good at?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jes sayin’ is all.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gas prices high you say?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How about a bring the frikin’ troops home and spend the money saved on:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=a-solar-grand-plan&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Solar Grand Plan…&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://anz.theoildrum.com/node/3643&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tidal Island Power&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or a whoppin’ mess of:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/23/business/23wind.html?_r=2&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TexxAss Windpower&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Instead of getting down in the mud with ReThugs and spending endless hours on useless bullshit while our economy, our society slowly circles the Bowl.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If the Obamacans did this I’d be there very first in line to say I’ve been wrong about his group’s assertion that they want to ‘change things…’; that is, that that assertion is so much bullshit and hot air.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yep, I’d be the first in line.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Waiting…..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And hoping!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe….just maybe the ‘Game On!…Fired Up!…Ready to Go!…’ Obama campaign can come out jabbin’ and uppercuttin and just plain hammerin’ the Republicans with a series of well-thought out, doable plans to solve some of our most pressing problems.</p>
<p>How would that be. Run on policy instead of race, gender, and all the rest of the lies and slime the ReThugs are so good at?</p>
<p>Jes sayin’ is all.</p>
<p>Gas prices high you say?</p>
<p>How about a bring the frikin’ troops home and spend the money saved on:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=a-solar-grand-plan" rel="nofollow">The Solar Grand Plan…</a></p>
<p>Or:</p>
<p><a href="http://anz.theoildrum.com/node/3643" rel="nofollow">Tidal Island Power</a></p>
<p>Or a whoppin’ mess of:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/23/business/23wind.html?_r=2&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">TexxAss Windpower<br /></a><br />
Instead of getting down in the mud with ReThugs and spending endless hours on useless bullshit while our economy, our society slowly circles the Bowl.</p>
<p>If the Obamacans did this I’d be there very first in line to say I’ve been wrong about his group’s assertion that they want to ‘change things…’; that is, that that assertion is so much bullshit and hot air.</p>
<p>Yep, I’d be the first in line.</p>
<p>Waiting…..</p>
<p>And hoping!</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;excellent idea, wdd&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent idea, wdd</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
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		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Meaning no disrespect for those folks who take the time to be members of a Volunteer Fire Dept; the small towns I’ve lived where there was a volunteer fire dept usually have done an excellent job of saving the foundations of homes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s both a thankless job as well as one where the odds are stacked against the fire fighters just because of how things are organized and where they’re located (small, rural communities, etc)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meaning no disrespect for those folks who take the time to be members of a Volunteer Fire Dept; the small towns I’ve lived where there was a volunteer fire dept usually have done an excellent job of saving the foundations of homes.</p>
<p>It’s both a thankless job as well as one where the odds are stacked against the fire fighters just because of how things are organized and where they’re located (small, rural communities, etc)</p>
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		<title>By: bonkers</title>
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		<dc:creator>bonkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How to handle the “pugilists” of the BigMedia.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_2IZT4VgDY&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_2IZT4VgDY&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bill Moyers is going viral.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to handle the “pugilists” of the BigMedia.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_2IZT4VgDY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_2IZT4VgDY</a></p>
<p>Bill Moyers is going viral.</p>
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