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	<title>Comments on: FDL Book Salon:	The New Blue Media: How Michael Moore, MoveOn.org, Jon Stewart and Company Are Transforming Progressive Politics</title>
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		<title>By: MSSS</title>
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		<dc:creator>MSSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 06:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don’t miss the discussion of &lt;a href=&quot;dailykos.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why Hillary Lost&lt;/a&gt; at dailykos.com on Sunday — and the really great  &lt;a href=&quot;http://mydd.com/story/2008/6/8/151450/1048#readmore&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Q&amp;A on what to say to someone who doesn’t ‘get’ Obama&lt;/a&gt; at mydd.com&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t miss the discussion of <a href="dailykos.com" rel="nofollow">Why Hillary Lost</a> at dailykos.com on Sunday — and the really great  <a href="http://mydd.com/story/2008/6/8/151450/1048#readmore" rel="nofollow">Q&amp;A on what to say to someone who doesn’t ‘get’ Obama</a> at mydd.com</p>
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		<title>By: libbyliberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>libbyliberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Looking forward to reading the book.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I see MSM getting more irreverent in their commentary on people, places and things in trying to mimic the comedy satire shows and please the audience.  Oy vey.  This is exasperating and dangerous.  They are being satirized for NOT taking things seriously enough. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Stewart, Olbermann, Colbert and Moore, etc. such BRAVE citizens.  Colbert at Correspondent’s dinner… TRUTH TO POWER IN YOUR FACE!!! Wow.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But we need Moyers, Lehrer et al., Mark Shields, etc. Serious investigators and thoughtful truthsayers, too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mostly cable has focused on “politics” they are careful to say, NOT news. So the horserace gets the attention and titillates the audience with gossip and gotcha commentary. And if you want serious news … turn on the radio or track down cable BBC.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope to God the internet remains FREE and not enslaved to capitalist control. We need it for more thorough information.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward to reading the book.  </p>
<p>I see MSM getting more irreverent in their commentary on people, places and things in trying to mimic the comedy satire shows and please the audience.  Oy vey.  This is exasperating and dangerous.  They are being satirized for NOT taking things seriously enough. </p>
<p>Stewart, Olbermann, Colbert and Moore, etc. such BRAVE citizens.  Colbert at Correspondent’s dinner… TRUTH TO POWER IN YOUR FACE!!! Wow.</p>
<p>But we need Moyers, Lehrer et al., Mark Shields, etc. Serious investigators and thoughtful truthsayers, too.</p>
<p>Mostly cable has focused on “politics” they are careful to say, NOT news. So the horserace gets the attention and titillates the audience with gossip and gotcha commentary. And if you want serious news … turn on the radio or track down cable BBC.</p>
<p>I hope to God the internet remains FREE and not enslaved to capitalist control. We need it for more thorough information.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I always mean to save the link for the article on telecoms keeping $200 billion in fees for a fiber network they didn’t build and so it takes me a few minutes to hunt up the link.  There are actually several articles but I usually cite this one from Niemann Watc:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=Ask_this.view&amp;askthisid=186&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/.....thisid=186&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always mean to save the link for the article on telecoms keeping $200 billion in fees for a fiber network they didn’t build and so it takes me a few minutes to hunt up the link.  There are actually several articles but I usually cite this one from Niemann Watc:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=Ask_this.view&amp;askthisid=186" rel="nofollow">http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/&#8230;..thisid=186</a></p>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
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		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Theodore, thanks so much for coming, and best of luck with your new book.  Please come back and visit us again sometime!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theodore, thanks so much for coming, and best of luck with your new book.  Please come back and visit us again sometime!</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you Phoenix Woman and Mr. Hamm,&lt;br /&gt;
you deliver good news about the news.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Phoenix Woman and Mr. Hamm,<br />
you deliver good news about the news.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;That’s a shame… DSL has too many limitations, and the infrastructure for broadband over copper exists, but the providers don’t want to spend money on it, it’s probably too small a market in total.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The telecoms have received something like $200 billion in fees on customer bills which were supposed to be used to build a fiber optical network.  They took the money but obviously never built the network.  No one in government has asked for the money back.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That’s a shame… DSL has too many limitations, and the infrastructure for broadband over copper exists, but the providers don’t want to spend money on it, it’s probably too small a market in total.</p>
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<p>The telecoms have received something like $200 billion in fees on customer bills which were supposed to be used to build a fiber optical network.  They took the money but obviously never built the network.  No one in government has asked for the money back.</p>
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		<title>By: Theodore Hamm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theodore Hamm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks PW, Bev and all FDL folks for the excellent questions. I enjoyed corresponding with all of you. For details on my book, including reviews and upcoming events, please go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/thenewbluemedia&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.myspace.com/thenewbluemedia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Keep fighting the good fight!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks PW, Bev and all FDL folks for the excellent questions. I enjoyed corresponding with all of you. For details on my book, including reviews and upcoming events, please go to <a href="http://www.myspace.com/thenewbluemedia" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/thenewbluemedia</a></p>
<p>Keep fighting the good fight!</p>
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		<title>By: BooRadley</title>
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		<dc:creator>BooRadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Any interest in speculating what the big newspaper dailies will look like in twenty years?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any interest in speculating what the big newspaper dailies will look like in twenty years?</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Re the NYT Clinton post mortem, it was pure horserace with no reference to issues.  I caught part of one this evening on ABC News.  It tracked Clinton’s campaign in terms of how friendly she was with her press entourag and whether or not she served the peach cobbler.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Re stories about the spike in oil prices, as fare as I could tell neither ABC nor NBC blamed them on hedge fund and investment bank speculation.  Indeed what was really strange was ABC citing Goldman Sachs that oil would go to $150/bbl without pointing out that one of the prime speculators pushing the price of oil in that direction is, errr Goldman Sachs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re the NYT Clinton post mortem, it was pure horserace with no reference to issues.  I caught part of one this evening on ABC News.  It tracked Clinton’s campaign in terms of how friendly she was with her press entourag and whether or not she served the peach cobbler.</p>
<p>Re stories about the spike in oil prices, as fare as I could tell neither ABC nor NBC blamed them on hedge fund and investment bank speculation.  Indeed what was really strange was ABC citing Goldman Sachs that oil would go to $150/bbl without pointing out that one of the prime speculators pushing the price of oil in that direction is, errr Goldman Sachs.</p>
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		<title>By: BevW</title>
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		<dc:creator>BevW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ted, thank you for stopping by the Lake today and spending the afternoon with us.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PW thank you for Hosting today.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Everyone, this is a current and interesting book, the link is above.&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted, thank you for stopping by the Lake today and spending the afternoon with us.</p>
<p>PW thank you for Hosting today.</p>
<p>Everyone, this is a current and interesting book, the link is above.<br />
Thanks</p>
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