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What little to no coverage or oversight means is that the program — which is not exactly on sound legal and ethical footing under current US law and regulations — may have simply morphed into something else. Even though the Bush Administration knows that this sort of "psy-ops" activity is prohibited, because they have been caught with their hand in the propaganda jar before:
…Since 1951, Congress has enacted an annual, government wide prohibition on the use of appropriated funds for purposes of "publicity or propaganda." For instance, in 2005, the prohibition stated:
No part of any appropriation contained in this or any other Act shall be used for publicity or propaganda purposes within the United States not heretofore authorized by the Congress. Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2005, Pub. L. No. 108-447, div. G, title II, 624, 118 Stat. 2809, 3278 (Dec. 8, 2004). (The language of the prohibition has remained virtually unchanged since 1951.)
All of these ginned up propaganda programs started hitting the public consciousness in 2005, causing a public outcry and Congressional calls for an investigation, which was undertaken by the Government Accountability Office. The GAO issued a formal report in February 2005 indicating that the Bush Administration efforts to shape the news via the prepackaged video news releases were inappropriate. The GAO subsequently issued similar opinions on the other Bush propaganda programs….
We just don’t know where this particular program stands because there has not been nearly enough public discussion, oversight and disclosure for anyone to have a full picture on this. And I have this recurring image of "former Pentagon spokesperson Torie Clark" on air spouting supportive little nuggets, and wondering how far out this propaganda planting program reached. Given what the Bush Administration did with the WHIG — planting stories with pliant reporters that they then got to publicly discuss because the information was already "out there," what ethical boundaries would they not cross? Not many, I’m afraid.
On May 26th, the House passed its defense authorization bill for this year, and included a provision spearheaded by New Hampshire Democratic Rep. Paul Hodes, who co-sponsored the House bill with Reps. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn., and Peter DeFazio, D-Ore., calling a halt to this sort of domestic psy-ops program from the DOD — requiring truth rather than face-saving spin maneuvers. They are to be applauded for their efforts on this. But from the Senate? As yet nothing, although there are some promises that this will be discussed as part of their defense budget later in the summer.
Why is is this so important for all of us? Because the propagation of lies, half-truths and spin as a policy foundation is nothing new for the Bush Administration, but getting supposed "independent" plants on air to reinforce those lies is — and it’s not legal. We deserve to know the truth about this and to discuss the ramifications of using spin as cover for Presidential policy blunders:
…I think it would be difficult to implement," said Anthony Pratkanis, co-author of the book "Age of Propaganda: The Everyday Use and Abuse of Persuasion," of any law attempting to prohibit the military from promoting itself. Interpretations of what constitutes propaganda can vary, and U.S. efforts to influence a foreign enemy — which is allowed under the law — often seep into American airwaves anyway, he said.
"What we really need is a norm that respects the role of the military" as independent from the executive branch, said Pratkanis, a social psychology professor at the University of California at Santa Cruz. "It’s more the responsibility of a president to sell his policies and not hide behind the military."…
On April 20, The New York Times uncovered a six-year Pentagon program that cultivated several dozen military analysts to generate favorable news coverage on the war. These retired military generals were fed talking points, taken on trips to Guantanamo Bay prison and Iraq, given access to classified intelligence and briefed personally by senior defense officials, including then-Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, according to e-mails, transcripts and other records provided to the Times and eventually released by the Defense Department.
That the officers maintained extensive ties to the Pentagon after retirement wasn’t surprising, as is custom among military’s senior ranks. But the program seemed to unfairly reward these new media personalities and the defense companies that employed them as lobbyists with plum access to the department so long as the retired officers spoke in favor of the war.
Also alarming was that the Pentagon may have given the retirees false or overly optimistic information about progress in Iraq, even as violence was increasing. The program was particularly noteworthy because it relied heavily on active-duty military officials to provide the positive information….
The Defense Department has shut down the program pending an internal review. Both the Defense Department inspector general’s office and the Government Accountability Office are investigating whether the effort violated any rules, including if it gave some contractors a competitive advantage by employing the retired officers as lobbyists….
We decided this is too important to wait for someone to decide to pick up the ball again. So we are pushing for public accountability on this issue. You can send letters to your members of Congress here, using our handy letter tool. And we’ll have more to come on this issue in the days ahead…



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Morning Raven — hot as hell here today. How are things with you?
We know why the media aren’t discussing it — because they’re among the culprits in this fiasco. The whole situation just reinforces once again how utterly non-independent they are, what shills to power they are.
I’m kind of surprised by the way the blogosphere has forgotten about it, tho.
christy – thank you for the Democracy Now! plug – imo, by far the best daily national news program. (did you see the special they had yesterday on RFK?).
Same. no rain in the forecast till next week.
Me, too — I think a lot of it had to do with everyone getting caught up in the last few weeks of the primary. Bit I was hoping — given the Phase II report and all the details on lying coming out all over again that folks might pick this up and give it a fresh look.
It’s been tough lately getting any traction or discussion on anything like this or FISA or any sort of accountability, because people’s attention spans have been elsewhere. But it’s really important that Congress knows we are still watching these issues — and that we expect them to do work on them and demand accountability. The IG’s office in the Pentagon has opened an investigation or two on this — but I want to see public hearings in COngress as well — and some of these media outlets and Pentagon pundits put on the spot. We deserve to know the whole story and, somehow, I think the NYTimes piece barely scratched the surface…
From Halberstam’s “The Coldest Winter”
Morning Christy, thank you.
To the fountain pens!
I didn’t see the RFK special. It was utter chaos at our house yesterday, and I missed it. Thanks for the link, though — will go back and take a peek. The piece they did on the Pentagon propaganda issues was very well laid out and easy to follow, so folks who haven’t kept up with this issue, I’d recommend it as a good place to start…
It does feel an awful lot like “the more things change, the more things stay the same” sometimes, doesn’t it? SIGH Sunshine, disinfectant, repeat…
i’m not entirely comfortable with this campaign because it seems to be based on the idea that congressional hearings are a means of oversight. the past year and a half of watching hearings has convinced me that is not the case. so this seems more like an effort to make bushco look bad (not that i have a problem with that! *g*) and less as a way to really get effective oversight.
not saying that’s what other people are thinking… just how it comes across to me.
is there a way we can address how really bad the hearings have been? make suggestions for ways to improve them (topics and content)?
I remember Carl Bernstein’s lengthy article in the Village Voice on the findings of the Senate Intelligence committee chaired by Frank Church. What the Church committee found was very similar to this case. The former was much more widespread and insidious. The latter was rather obvious just by the pedegree of the spokesgenerals and what they had to say. Only the gullible would fall for such rubbish as was being flogged by these chaps. The other type operation, the one examined by the Church committee, was not so obvious, unless the conveyor belt happened to be someone like Joseph Alsop. But the CIA’s assets in the media were widespread and quite subtle, generally speaking. I’m sure such an op is still in play.
Hope y’all get a little shower in between. We finally turned our air conditioning on yesterday for the first time all year — we held off as long as we could stand it, but with my lupus issues, I can’t get too overheated, and yesterday was the “boiling point” so to speak.
I should do a weekend post about how folks are conserving energy so we can all share tips and tricks. I have a feeling we are all going to need some new means of conserving over the coming years, so we might as well start sooner rather than later…
I know but I guess we can’t let it get us down!
christy – do you think that maybe this kind of thing (even if on a smaller scale) has been done by dems also? so often the bad acts of bushco that congress seems happy to cover up are things that implicate dems too. so i wonder….
My office is upstairs in a 100 year old house so that heat pump has been crakin, no other way.
this is what i’m wondering about also.
It’s a first step — we’re trying to bring them along one step at a time. Hearings at least begin to expose wrongdoing. Couple that with the IG investigations, and then add in a potential new DOJ come January, and you might have reason to hope for prosecutions of lawbreakers. But that isn’t going to happen with Mukasey, I suspect, so we are trying to do what we can now — get people on the record sooner rather than later — and go from there.
If anyone has suggestions on other things we can do, let me know.
Small scale? See my comment at #7. This is the way it works.
Why am I not surprised – Goebbels would be proud! Let’s use taxpayer dollars to convince everyone that there is a good reason for us to be in Iraq.
The difference is that Hitler only tried to persuade Germans that his crazy ideas were sane – now, because of the global nature of information these days, we are trying to convince the entire world!
As David Neiwert clearly noted, the media is heavily involved in the whole fiasco – they need content to make money, and who cares if the views expressed are bought and paid for by the US Military? As long as those advertising dollars keep coming in!
very sad!
I don’t know about your lupus symptoms, but the roses and other June flowers are going to take a hard hit on Sunday with temps in the general region going to the high 90s.
i confess that i’ll skip posts on mccain and the presidential compaign in general. it’s your posts on accountability and citizen oversight i care about the most. thank you!
You called?…..
Whichever administration is in power, whatever party controls the executive and/or the legislative, the fact is, unless we all keep an eye on what’s going on, raise our voices and persevere, we get what we deserve.
We cannot be a nation of sheep, we must be a nation of watchdogs.
The positive thing is, that they may be the same ol’ same ol’, but we, with the interaction of the internet, are not. No excuses….
Jerusalem – global heritage city
Joe Lieberman – eternal piglet in the mud wallow
Later pups, the dinosaur pace of dialup has run me aground for now….
We started landscaping a couple of years ago with drought-tolerant and heat-tolerant flowers because I could feel the temperatures rising. It’s tough to find those types of plants that do well in the heat but still tolerate our muggy humidity, but I’ve managed to find a few.
But I can already tell, even with the huge amount of rain we got the last few days, that I’m going to be out watering in the early morning this weekend. It’s nasty already outside and it’s only 10:30 here. Ugh…
I have to say, the last couple of weeks, it has been all I could do not to endlessly run that “If you have any poo, fling it now” YouTube. *g*
“former Pentagon spokesperson Torie Clark”
blergh. The best thing I ever saw Chris Matthews do was to take her apart, limb by limb, on Hardballs. He was merciless, she was stunned and, for once, speechless.
THAT was such a cathartic show to watch.
Good morning, all …
Christy;
How do you think the Pentagon’s behavior with regard to the topic you’ve broached with your post, ties in, if it does with Molly Bingham’s #151 comment, yesterday, during Book Salon?
If Molly is correct, and I think she is, then the Pentagon, the U.S. military, is up to its neck in promulgating propaganda, as in SOP, and it is directed both at the Iraki people, who ‘get it’ and the American public, who do not realize what is going on.
Do you see a connection?
can committee hearings have staff participation to ask questions? since i only started watching the hearings relatively recently, i don’t know what the options really are. but when i’ve asked this question before, i think pups have told me that’s been done in the past.
how about one cycle of questions by the members of the committee and then one with aides – just one committee staff member for each (majority and minority) who could ask questions for more than 5-7 minutes… and would hopefully be focused on getting info and not only on making a good sound bite?
i’m sure we could come up with some ways to change how hearings are conducted that would help make them more effective.
I probably won’t be around tomorrow for any conservation threads, so here’s a short list of regional plants from DoA’s Natural Resources Conservation Service:
Choosing Plants for Low Water Use*
You are not limited to cacti, succulents, or narrow leafed evergreens when selecting plants adapted to low moisture requirements. Many plants growing in humid environments are well adapted to low levels of soil moisture. Numerous plants found growing in coastal or mountainous regions have developed mechanisms for dealing with extremely sandy, excessively well-drained soils, or rocky cold soils in which moisture is limited to months at a time. Following is a list of low water use plants from various parts of the country:
North West
Saskatoon serviceberry (Amelanchier alnifolia)
Blue grama (Bouteloua gracilis)
Rocky Mountain Juniper (Juniperus scopulorum)
Oregon white oak (Quercus garryanna)
South West
Four-wing saltbush (Atriplex canescens)
Fairy Duster (Calliandra eriophylla)
Penstemon (Penstemon spp.)
Pinyon pine (Pinus edulis)
North Central
Aromatic aster (Aster oblongifolius)
Sideoats grama (Bouteloua curtipendula)
Bluegrama (Bouteloua gracilis)
Pale purple coneflower (Echinacea pallida)
Compass plant (Silphium laciniatum)
South Central
Aromatic aster (Aster oblongifolius)
Sideoats grama (Bouteloua curtipendula)
Bluegrama (Bouteloua gracilis)
Tall blasing star (Liatris aspera)
Bur oak (Quercus macrocarpus)
Aromatic sumac (Rhus aromatica)
North East
Big bluestem (Andropogon gerardii)
Eastern red cedar (Juniperus virginiana)
Blazing star (Liatris spicata)
Pitch pine (Pinus rigida)
Beach plum (Prunus serotina)
South East
Tall blazing star (Liatris aspera)
Longleaf pine (Pinus palustris)
Sand Live oak (Quercus germinata)
Little bluestem (Schizachyrium scoparium)
Compass plant (Silphium laciniatum)
*Always check with your local State extension service when selecting plants to avoid the potential of selecting a plant that is considered invasive in your particular location.
For a while I thought this year would be similar weatherwise to 2000, with La Niña holding forth, with its cooling effect. For August weather to arrive so abruptly, is a bit of a turn-up. But the energy of the last couple of storms was an indicator of a different course being taken.
So, there most be a preponderance of oranges and yellows on the landscape, eh? Cosmos and Cleome add whites, pinks and reds as well as seed. :P
I do — one of the links I have above is to some commentary on the Pentagon’s use of right-wing blogs as Pentagon propaganda recyclers for public consumption as well. It’s all of a piece. We had something not too long ago on how international media talks about things that our media doesn’t even touch — Siun hits that a lot in her Sunday posts as well.
It’s all of a piece. The Bill Moyers “Selling the War” (which is also linked above) brilliantly dissected a lot of that.
It has been done in the past — especially having legal staffers ask the questions. Marcy and I have both waged varying campaigns with varying committees and staffers for better Q&A, more focused use of time and topic, etc. — and have even on occasion offered to submit draft questions or information if it was felt that it was useful. Unfortunately, sometimes I think ego triumphs over strategery with some folks…and we haven’t had a lot of success. But we’re going to keep pushing anyway, just in case…
There are folks who do an extremely good job: Whitehouse, Feingold, Hodes, Waxman, Nadler, etc. — often folks who have had more recent trial experience or who have maintained a focus on accountability throughout their careers. We need more of that — or better training for it somehow. But how to get there is a million dollar question in and of itself. Unfortunately.
How unique! Blitzer puppet reporting on puppets.
I believe Unka Karl might be taking a new residence :
JTA reports that, according to Israel’s Channel 10, Israeli opposition leader and former Prime Minster Benjamin Netanyahu “may hire former White House adviser Karl Rove.” Sources “close to Netanyahu” said that “Rove’s name has come up on a roster of strategic consultants that the Israeli opposition leader is thinking of hiring as he prepares for a possible leadership challenge against the embattled Prime Minister Ehud Olmert.” Olmert recently met with President Bush and reportedly urged him to attack Iran.
btw, meant to say that the Watergate hearings were a good example of staffers working on very pointed, detailed questions. And Iran-Contra hearings saw legal counsel for both sides on the committee asking questions along with members of Congress. But I think that may take some agreement on the part of both majority and minority members of the committee — and, given how obstructionist the GOP has been of late in the House and Senate, I’d say that may be a big part of preventing that from occurring. In other words, they have adjudged how effective or not many of the committee members are at asking questions, and are preventing some changes for the more effective as a result. Just a hunch…
sorta related via congressional hearings and oversight… for your ipods, i posted mp3s of two hearings this week, the house foreign affairs hearing with glenn fine on his DOJ IG report on torture and the senate commerce hearing with soros and greenburger on energy market manipulation.
also, tried something new for the dialup folks – i posted audio only flash streams. i’m going to have to play around with this method a bit to improve the quality (the files are very compressed), but hopefully it will make it easier for more folks to listen to the hearings and form their own opinions.
Those mp3s are excellent, selise. Thanks again. Have already passed the HFA one along to several people.
btw, am I the only one that remembers sitting and watching those Iran-Contra hearings? I think I was in junior high and I drove my mom insane watching those hearings, day in and day out, while she was having a garage sale. She kept saying to me “shouldn’t you be out at the pool or doing something outside? What kind of kid watches hearings in Congress in the summer?” hehehehehe Once a government nerd, always a government nerd…
I was struck by how much abramoff, while being sworn in, looked like Ollie being sworn in.
Given then, that there is truth in what you and Molly are saying, how may we avoid having a very serious discussion with regard to the proper role and function of the U.S. military?
The military, in America, enjoys the status of ’scared cow’, a most-expensive scared cow, for that matter, and may well be one of the major players in using the ultimate destructive powers of physics to Rapture us all to our final reward …
Everyone needs to understand, this ‘discussion’ is NOT about disparaging those who have served, the troops, the ‘grunts’, but rarher, with determining whether having a huge, the biggest in the whole wide world, military, really does serve, best, our long term interests.
What role do we wish to play in a world which has changed and continues to change, interms of ‘power’, resource availability, the desire for self-determination and so on?
The people, if we are, indeed, to be a democracy, must make these determinations, free of mythology, propaganda and hype.
Yeah, H2Ogate was when some id10t in Hollywood decided that Fred Thompson was “photogenic” and started his acting career.
All because of his “questioning abilities.” (I almost wrote “his questionable abilities” but that seemed too obvious)
Thanks selise, much appreciated — it’s been next to impossible to keep up with everything lately. Having this as a resource is really great…
Go back and read some of the old Eisenhower speeches, and see how much discussion there has always been on that issue in American politics. Just because I haven’t talked about it, doesn’t mean no one is — I can’t write about everything, no one can. But Scarecrow has hit that question a few times in his morning post stemming from his prior service, too…
You mean watching Ollie North, resplendent in his Marine uniform, declaring himself “a simple soldier, following orders to charge up the hill?”
Yeah, I watched when I could.
Oh, lordy. They were re-broadcast in their entirety on Channel 13 in NYC. I would get home from work and turn on the tube and be riveted. There were times I didn’t crawl off to bed until 3 or 4 in the morning. One of my personal favorites was Tony “coin changer” Ulasewicz…
Ooops, flashback to earlier hearings, Watergate, you know… Back when Fred “I’m here to save the Republican party” Thompson was young and all…
The Watergate hearings were my absolute fav…
Remember Barbara Jordan’s statement on the Constitution? Unforgettable.
Whenever I need a shot in the arm, I go back and watch that YouTube of Barbara Jordan during the hearings…brilliant stuff.
Here’s the text of the Barbara Jordan speech and an audio file of it, too. Love it…
Christy
I was not taking you to task!
I was asking that question generally, not laying anything on you.
I apologize if it appeared that way.
Several times, when I have sought to bring up this subject, at what seemed appropriate moments, reactions were less than receptive, owning I think, to what amounts to extreme (and sometimes justified) concern that it was an assault on ‘the troops’.
Again, Christy, I apologize if I seemed to be placing responsibility upon you, for it is ALL of us upon whom it falls.
I seem to recall blowing off a few classes to watch them.
That was way back when Democrats had spines.
my born and bred Republican mother adored Barbara Jordan, she always relished listening to Ms Jordan.
I think it depends a lot on how the discussion is couched. Rank and file folks in the military do enormously difficult work under very high pressure situations and under orders from folks above them — chain of command in life and death situations is both necessary and lifesaving at times, but it leads to a sort of top down accountability that far too often falls on the bottom ranks and leaves the top order-givers scot free.
When someone starts a conversation with “babykillers” or something along those lines, that’s a stereotypical conversation ender for me and a lot of folks who have had friends and family serving honorably in the military through WWI and WWII and the like. I’m not saying you do that — in fact, I can’t remember you ever doing that — but some folks do, and it’s not only inaccurate for most military folks, it is also incredibly insulting, especially to vets who are also readers here.
But a discussion is needed about the greater “military-industrial complex,” its role in this propaganda issue (given that a number of these so-called pundits also work for military contractors or are contractors themselves who directly profit from an ongoing conflict). Those are not only legitimate questions, but sorely needed ones that only a few folks like Rep. Waxman and Sen. Dorgan have been asking all along.
We do need to have a lot more conversations about that — it’s just tough to do that absent more information on what has and has not been going on and, to date, that information — real, substantiated, honest information — has been pretty tough to come by…partially due to this propaganda program. See how neatly this all fits together? *g*
“Has the President committed offenses, and planned, and directed, and acquiesced in a course of conduct which the Constitution will not tolerate? That’s the question.”
No s**t, Nancy…may the spirit of the great, sonorous voice of Barbara Jordon come to you in the night …and not whisper in your ear, but be a clangorous bell in your ear.
Hell, back then there were even some Republicans with spines and ethical standards they would not go below.
Exquisitely well-put, Christy.
You have said it precisely as it must be said.
Thank you.
Once again ….
i think arthur davis is very good at the hearings also (although i’m no fan of his politics). so yes, i agree, there are some standouts. but they are given so little time it’s hard, i think, for them to make a big impact.
you and marcy may have the best advice in the world, but you are only going to be able to convince our congress critters with your arguments if they have the same concerns as you do. if nothing else, the last year has taught me that is not the case (although i do think they are very good at faking it).
maybe a more public campaign would help? harder to ignore anyway.
… i want better hearings!
Ah yes, the man lionized for negotiating with the Iranian mullahs and giving them weapons.
Gotta love the GOP authoritarian mindesets ability to change gears on a dime.
-G
I’ve been wondering for a while if a public campaign to thank members of Congress who do an excellent job in hearings would help. A sort of weekly kudo for doing you job well, if you will. No idea how something like this would be structured — just throwing it out there for folks to think about — what do you think?
It would play to their personal egos and need for public acclaim, while at the same time giving some of the others something to strive toward. But I worry about that ending up being divisive, because I know that Dodd, for example, had to deal with a lot of openly hostile BS on the filibuster issue, just as one example…
Christy, if you are looking for drought tolerant plants look at using prairie plants. Many have root systems 3′-10′ deep. Prairie ecosystem are not found solely in the plains states. Species include: Prairie Dropseed, Prairie Dock, Big Bluestem, Pale Purple Coneflower, Little Bluestem, Indiangrass, Showy Sunflower, White False Indigo, Prairie Cordgrass. Botanical names available on request.
or maybe just a week of our getting to the phones and emails and sending people stuff personally…instead of our haranging them as we usually do, it’s “Atta Congressperson” week.
Thanks much — we’ve got coneflower and a whole lot of tickseed (coreopsis) as well, both of which do extremely well here. Nice to see some other ones to check out — much appreciated.
Morning Christy.
Oppressive heat in OH too, right up to Lake Erie. And awful air *hack, cough*.
Chaos in the house, eh? Makes you seem even more the incredible wizard, to come up with such a fine post under duress.
THANK YOU!
I, probably along with a lot of other pups, have been getting angrier and angrier seeing the “horse race” of the primaries being covered endlessly (if i see CNN’s touchy feely lighted map one more time…..grrrrr), while we all have seen and worried over the occasional little snippets of news indicating there are growing
pocketscaverns of deep trouble just everywhere.Thank you for helping shine some light on the intricacies of these issues, so we can *sigh* remind our congresscritters why they were sent to D.C., with not-too-subtle undertones relative to how short their careers will be if they don’t start tackling more of these
loomingproblems.Talking points just don’t “cut it” any more. Honest, constructive, strong action should be the order of the day. It’s heartening to see Obama itching to start. I get the feeling he’s got a cattle prod in his closet just waiting for January. The BIG campaign has already begun, but there’s lots of work that can and must be done in the meantime.
Maybe a thanks from Blue America in the form of campaign contribution drawn from people donating to the thanks.
Not sure how “thank you swag” or campaign contributions fit into lobbying limits.
Does the coneflower not get mildew with your humidity?
dang! sorry i missed that. would there be utube back that far?
that’s a great idea!
i don’t mind a bit of divisiveness if the alternative is we all line up in support of crappy questioning by our congress critters.
in addition to asking for better hearings, it might be a way to encourage more of us to watch and comment on the hearings as they happen. more viewers and commenters might also help encourage better hearings.
Not on youtube (copyright) , probably archived with the show though…
OT – anyone in central ma want some purple and white purple cone flowers? i’ve propagated way too many of them and have had to resort to pulling them like weeds (i have a very small yard). i could probably still spare 100 seedlings and year old plants.
Oh and I meant to mention goldenrod – I know it gets a bad rap for allergies, but it is one tough customer and beautiful with purple coneflower.
Butterflyweed, Bee Balm…
One reason the Senate is so dysfunctional, in addition to the arcane rules it operates under, is that a lot of the members are just too damn old to get much done.
If any of you have ever worked in an office or enterprise with a seventy-something, you know what I mean.
Maybe this episode?
Any award that a Congress person gets for doing their job in hearings would need to be publicized in their districts. Let their constituents know they are effective leaders, not just those on the internets.
thanks. it’ll be worth the search, heh.
Actually, Christy, I confess to have already begun my campaign, which I refer to as the “Give ‘em Heaven” routine which, of course, has a companion, um … balancing campaign with a somewhat different name, well, slightly.
Nahant had suggested this tack sometime ago, although I was already in agreement with the general idea.
If nothing else ‘they’ may become familiar with us, somewhat, and perhaps, even come to trust our judgement and welcome our input.
I figure,’what have we got to lose?’
Have had some rather good conversation with Senator Casey’s web site and gotten back apparently thoughtful replies, using the ‘heaven’ technique.
Nahant suggested that this method might allow us to send receptive individuals other things such as books or essays and have some hope that such offerings might even be perused …
Love butterfly weed, have 4 or 5 in the front garden. A good source for info on native prairie species is Prairie Nursery out of Wisconsin. http://www.prairienursery.com
oooh wow! hey, i’m supposed to be working. gack. but… ah well… chores can wait. i owe ya!
It actually is worth it. Sorry for the long quote, but I have never heard Matthews sound so… …reasonable.
Of course that last part is bullshit. There are plenty of hawks left and I am afraid they might just get their way…
If you haven’t yet, you probably soon will. One legacy of the Bush Administration is sure to be that most people cannot afford to retire. Mission Accomplished Again.
About the price of oil:
June 3, 2008 (LPAC)–”He’s gotten down on his knees to the British,” was the way one Senate witness today described the chairman of the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC), which is allowing U.S. oil futures market speculation to be ”regulated” by British and Dubai, instead of American, authorities. In a hearing on manipulation of the skyrocketing oil price, the expert witness, University of Maryland law professor Michael Greenberger, told seven angry members of the Senate Commerce Committee that 35% of U.S.-based trading in West Texas Intermediate Crude oil futures has shifted to ”dark markets,” completely unregulated, by agreement with Britain. On these markets in particular, Greenberger said, a few hedge funds and three investment houses–Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, and JP Morgan Chase–are controlling 70% of the speculative buying of U.S. oil futures and driving the price of oil steadily upward, while ”ironically, issuing `predictions’ that it’s going to $200/barrel.”
And I’m supposed to be sleeping. G’night.
Dick Cheney orders that the teevee be turned on to Fox News, the a/c be set to a particular low temp, and Coors beer in the fridge.
As long as Fox News exists, it will serve as a propaganda arm of Bush, Cheney, and Haliburton, PA. And Russert’s MTP is another of Dick’s certified propaganda tools.
But of course I can’t sleep until I go upstairs (yes, it is up) and see what T-Bogg has to say about the “fucking stupidest guy on the face of the Earth”
Christy and all
I think Mexican Sage looks really nice with Coreopsis, but it’s for frost free zones…so, it might not work for you.
The dark purple is a great contrast to the bright yellow.
Carlyle Group making money here?
Oh, for those asking about media coverage elsewhere that we aren’t getting here, I forgot to mention that dday had a great piece at Digby’s on this the other day as well…
You shouldn`t only be surprised about how the
bloggers have reacted to this David. Think about
how almost everyone, including this site, uses
the term “to see if they violated any rule”,
instead of stating what facts are, “to see if
they violated any law!!!”
Same ol., same ol David, don`t you think?
Such as above where I explicitly state that the Pentagon’s program “is not legal”, you mean?
from digby’s great post;
so here’s the elephant in the room;
if the president actually did this mccain would probably win the election
how scary is this?
oops, wrong paste;
so here’s the elephant in the room;
if the president actually did this mccain would probably win the election
how scary is this?
Me too. I’ve always loved it, but grew everything else BUT that in the 35 plus years we’ve been coping with OH clay. Well, that’s changed. Older can mean lessons learned, folks. I started using just our simple garden rake to make slightly raised beds for finicky plants that don’t like having their feet wet all the time.
I F-I-N-A-L-L-Y got around to hazarding a try at Butterflyweed in a hot place next to our garage, & made a special little mound. Um- this year I’m transplanting the [eek, hundreds of] little seedlings from the initial plant – I know “you can’t transplant Butterflyweed,” but it’s working because I move them while they’re tiny, making sure not to break the taproot.
Meanwhile, Momma-plant got through the winter just fine and is just COVERED with flower buds that should open within the week and keep blooming all summer. And I have gobs of seed saved from last year.
Why-oh-why did I just assume all those years that it was a “beach sand plant” that wouldn’t be happy in slightly tenderized OH clay?!
Lessee… Ya know? Some of that plant-growing techie stuff wouldn’t be half bad to use on our congresscritters with overly-long tap roots.
hmmmm. gimme a bit to think on it. *g*
Thanks Bluetoe2 for all the other plant suggestions.
We’re moving to a Sr. community next year with totally new construction & all the allied headaches. However, not only is the place NOT situated next to a golf course (yayyyyyyy!), But.. Bless them, the planners are working closely with university and horticulture experts to keep mowing to a reasonable amt., and encourage a prairie-like planting system for a lot of the grounds. We’re anticipating lots of good fun “helping” by bringing starts of a whole lot of our own, and setting them out among the other beautiful
weeds/prairie plants already in the area.p.s., they already have natural wetlands they’re preserving and working carefully around nesting tree swallows, a thriving resident colony of Indiana free-tailed bats, and, and, and. The 1st phases of construction were accomplished some years ago, and this latest little irregular cluster of cottages will be the last, so-as to keep the human footprint small. Amazing concept in this day and age, eh? How can people be this far-sighted? Um. Did I mention, it’s in Oberlin. A little island of BLUE AMERICA in Ohio. ;->
whack-a-mole! ouch! nice!
heh! thanks again. ;->
Mornin’ All,
(if i see CNN’s touchy feely lighted map one more time…..grrrrr)
Adie –
Just for You :D
This war process was also enabled by Israel neocon spies like Joe LIEberman. [edited by mod]
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omg i luv u sooooo. this gonna git fwded outta sight!?!
heeheeheeheehee!
can’t tell you how welcome that smile *sniffle haww haw haw”
All the coming pardons should keep them safe in the USA. They may want to avoid international travel, however.
how ’bout that vault the veep has fer important stuff ‘n all?
Eichman thought he was safe in Argentina!
No doubt the contents will be moved or destroyed.
no post about falsified “evidence” can go without this you tube
it shows cheney’s “team b”, a group of people who’s only purpose was to provide false data to justify cheney’s intention
after that eye opening video you have to read how he made up bullcrap under the nixon administration as well
he is a sociopath
oops, thatgoes upstairs, will repost
He is a sociopath.
So?
He’s a “So?”ciopath.
excellant and will plaguerize this new title