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	<title>Comments on: Election 2008:  Comfort Levels, Race, And Obama</title>
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		<title>By: Christy Hardin Smith</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/06/election-2008-comfort-levels-race-and-obama/#comment-1483347</link>
		<dc:creator>Christy Hardin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 11:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thats “fighting spirit” issue certainly played well here in WV among folks with whom I’ve spoken, I know that.  I’ve heard any number of times that “she’s not a quitter, and she’s fighting for things I believe in” from any number of voters who supported her.  Even though her positions and Obama’s are incredibly similar on just about every issue, the media portrayal of Obama as ultra-super-duper liberal has sunk in, and people think he’s “not like me” as a result.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s a problem in fly-over country, which is a whole helluva lot of the nation.  The good news is that with the extended primary, in the states where the Obama campaign put forth a lot of effort introducing him and winning over voters (of which, alas, WV was not one — they weren’t here but for two very short fly in, fly out speeches), he’s already laid groundwork that the media storyline isn’t quite right and that there is a lot more to him.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I do think the campaign’s plans for an economic tour under the theme of “Change That Works For You” is a great introduction to Obama’s work as a community organizer and everything he has done in his career to help lift folks up when they hit a rough patch.  Depending on how they work this, it could go a long way toward bringing folks around to an “us” mindset rather than thinking about him in an “us vs. them” sort of way.  And that is a very good thing for November to cement that early and often.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We all have a job to do on that, too — talking to folks we know about specifics — especially McCain’s lobbyist cronies writing his policy positions versus Obama’s positions having come from fighting for poor folks in Chicago, from working with labor over the years, etc.  I’ve found that is a good way to open a conversation door which would otherwise remain pretty closed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats “fighting spirit” issue certainly played well here in WV among folks with whom I’ve spoken, I know that.  I’ve heard any number of times that “she’s not a quitter, and she’s fighting for things I believe in” from any number of voters who supported her.  Even though her positions and Obama’s are incredibly similar on just about every issue, the media portrayal of Obama as ultra-super-duper liberal has sunk in, and people think he’s “not like me” as a result.</p>
<p>That’s a problem in fly-over country, which is a whole helluva lot of the nation.  The good news is that with the extended primary, in the states where the Obama campaign put forth a lot of effort introducing him and winning over voters (of which, alas, WV was not one — they weren’t here but for two very short fly in, fly out speeches), he’s already laid groundwork that the media storyline isn’t quite right and that there is a lot more to him.</p>
<p>I do think the campaign’s plans for an economic tour under the theme of “Change That Works For You” is a great introduction to Obama’s work as a community organizer and everything he has done in his career to help lift folks up when they hit a rough patch.  Depending on how they work this, it could go a long way toward bringing folks around to an “us” mindset rather than thinking about him in an “us vs. them” sort of way.  And that is a very good thing for November to cement that early and often.</p>
<p>We all have a job to do on that, too — talking to folks we know about specifics — especially McCain’s lobbyist cronies writing his policy positions versus Obama’s positions having come from fighting for poor folks in Chicago, from working with labor over the years, etc.  I’ve found that is a good way to open a conversation door which would otherwise remain pretty closed.</p>
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		<title>By: Christy Hardin Smith</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/06/election-2008-comfort-levels-race-and-obama/#comment-1483344</link>
		<dc:creator>Christy Hardin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 11:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh sure. Because hoping people would come around worked so well for Gore and Kerry against Shrubby the Wonder Twit…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh sure. Because hoping people would come around worked so well for Gore and Kerry against Shrubby the Wonder Twit…</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/06/election-2008-comfort-levels-race-and-obama/#comment-1482883</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 04:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t think it’s up to Obama to “win over” anyone. I think that’s the old approach. The new approach is that people simply have to come to their senses.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t think it’s up to Obama to “win over” anyone. I think that’s the old approach. The new approach is that people simply have to come to their senses.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Welsh</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/06/election-2008-comfort-levels-race-and-obama/#comment-1482799</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Welsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 03:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think it’s partially racial.  But I also think he comes across as an elitist type in a way that Clinton, oddly, didn’t.  Maybe it’s all those years married to Bill, or all those years in the South, not sure, but somehow Obama feels more culturally elite and out of touch.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FIGHT language is one part of it, I think.  Both Clinton and Edward used words like FIGHT all the time, and that’s something these sort of people want from their candidates.  They aren’t as in to the whole “post partisan, let’s get past the bad feelings” things as Obama supporters — they don’t believe it in their guts. They need to be reassured that Obama cares about them and will fight hard for them.  That’s the deal that Clinton sealed with her supporters “I am a fighter.  I love you.  I will fight for you.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it’s partially racial.  But I also think he comes across as an elitist type in a way that Clinton, oddly, didn’t.  Maybe it’s all those years married to Bill, or all those years in the South, not sure, but somehow Obama feels more culturally elite and out of touch.</p>
<p>FIGHT language is one part of it, I think.  Both Clinton and Edward used words like FIGHT all the time, and that’s something these sort of people want from their candidates.  They aren’t as in to the whole “post partisan, let’s get past the bad feelings” things as Obama supporters — they don’t believe it in their guts. They need to be reassured that Obama cares about them and will fight hard for them.  That’s the deal that Clinton sealed with her supporters “I am a fighter.  I love you.  I will fight for you.”</p>
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		<title>By: lokywoky</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/06/election-2008-comfort-levels-race-and-obama/#comment-1482609</link>
		<dc:creator>lokywoky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 02:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s not so hard - you just have to put yourself in this position:&lt;br /&gt;
You are a woman who has experienced misogynism first hand - been denied the raise, the promotion, or even the job because they are female.  They have run up against the glass ceiling - in some cases the concrete ceiling.  They have married men thinking that would be the way to something better, and have been disappointed.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Women have watched Hillary take lemons (Bill’s philandering) and make lemonade with a twist.  Her successful Senate run, and now her run for POTUS.  They dream along with her that the ceiling is finally going to be broken.  They won’t get to the White House - but maybe that elusive promotion will finally be theirs, or that rais they have deserved for years.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sure Hillary isn’t ‘like them’ in that she went to Yale, and has earned over 100 million dollars in the last 8 years, that she was First Lady, and now a sitting US Senator from one of the biggest states in the US.  But she is like them in that she has had those same experiences in her life.  And is still having them (white bitch month, nutcracker dolls, etc).  And now they feel like she ran up against the glass ceiling - and unfortunately - it is still there.  She was unable to break it.  And that fact means that all their dreams are now somewhat destroyed as well.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Most of them will go on - and they will vote for Obama.  They understand that McSlime means no more Roe, more crap like the Ledbetter case and overturning the Violence Against Women Act.  More war.  More dead kids coming home in flag-draped coffins.  More inner-city kids dying from drugs and drive-by shootings.  So they will vote for Obama.  Maybe holding their collective noses - but they will.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some, like Harriet Christian will not.  And I don’t think there is anything he or anyone else can say to her and others like her that will change her mind.  She is simply too hurt.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s not so hard &#8211; you just have to put yourself in this position:<br />
You are a woman who has experienced misogynism first hand &#8211; been denied the raise, the promotion, or even the job because they are female.  They have run up against the glass ceiling &#8211; in some cases the concrete ceiling.  They have married men thinking that would be the way to something better, and have been disappointed.  </p>
<p>Women have watched Hillary take lemons (Bill’s philandering) and make lemonade with a twist.  Her successful Senate run, and now her run for POTUS.  They dream along with her that the ceiling is finally going to be broken.  They won’t get to the White House &#8211; but maybe that elusive promotion will finally be theirs, or that rais they have deserved for years.</p>
<p>Sure Hillary isn’t ‘like them’ in that she went to Yale, and has earned over 100 million dollars in the last 8 years, that she was First Lady, and now a sitting US Senator from one of the biggest states in the US.  But she is like them in that she has had those same experiences in her life.  And is still having them (white bitch month, nutcracker dolls, etc).  And now they feel like she ran up against the glass ceiling &#8211; and unfortunately &#8211; it is still there.  She was unable to break it.  And that fact means that all their dreams are now somewhat destroyed as well.</p>
<p>Most of them will go on &#8211; and they will vote for Obama.  They understand that McSlime means no more Roe, more crap like the Ledbetter case and overturning the Violence Against Women Act.  More war.  More dead kids coming home in flag-draped coffins.  More inner-city kids dying from drugs and drive-by shootings.  So they will vote for Obama.  Maybe holding their collective noses &#8211; but they will.</p>
<p>Some, like Harriet Christian will not.  And I don’t think there is anything he or anyone else can say to her and others like her that will change her mind.  She is simply too hurt.</p>
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		<title>By: Twain</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/06/election-2008-comfort-levels-race-and-obama/#comment-1482578</link>
		<dc:creator>Twain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 01:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Isn’t it odd that people who do not have much education, as you put it, would identify with someone who has been first lady and lived in the WH with all the perks that go with that. You’re right but it’s so strange to me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn’t it odd that people who do not have much education, as you put it, would identify with someone who has been first lady and lived in the WH with all the perks that go with that. You’re right but it’s so strange to me.</p>
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		<title>By: BooRadley</title>
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		<dc:creator>BooRadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 01:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: KayInMaine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/06/election-2008-comfort-levels-race-and-obama/#comment-1482568</link>
		<dc:creator>KayInMaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 01:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks BooRadley. I wonder what ’symbols’ we’ll need to use? LOL I’m scared at the moment to find out! ;-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks BooRadley. I wonder what ’symbols’ we’ll need to use? LOL I’m scared at the moment to find out! ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: BooRadley</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/06/election-2008-comfort-levels-race-and-obama/#comment-1482560</link>
		<dc:creator>BooRadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 01:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes and this is the demographic she did very well in. Democrats, some who did not have a lot of education,  identified with her. In order to get Obama into the WH, we have to speak to those people in symbols they understand.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes and this is the demographic she did very well in. Democrats, some who did not have a lot of education,  identified with her. In order to get Obama into the WH, we have to speak to those people in symbols they understand.</p>
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		<title>By: KayInMaine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/06/election-2008-comfort-levels-race-and-obama/#comment-1482558</link>
		<dc:creator>KayInMaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 01:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Was anyone else bothered by the fact that it was Diane Feinstein’s home where Hillary &amp; Barack met? I am. Feinstein is a diehard Hillary supporter and the fact she is connected to the Military Industrial Complex makes me cringe, because it wouldn’t surprise me if the corrupt criminals of the MIC starts sending money to Barack’s campaign. Yep, I can see it now! Johnny McTeleprompter saying, “See? He’s getting money from the war profiteers. My friends, Obama loves the war and is running for George Bush’s 3rd term”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was anyone else bothered by the fact that it was Diane Feinstein’s home where Hillary &amp; Barack met? I am. Feinstein is a diehard Hillary supporter and the fact she is connected to the Military Industrial Complex makes me cringe, because it wouldn’t surprise me if the corrupt criminals of the MIC starts sending money to Barack’s campaign. Yep, I can see it now! Johnny McTeleprompter saying, “See? He’s getting money from the war profiteers. My friends, Obama loves the war and is running for George Bush’s 3rd term”.</p>
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