The folks at EFF, the ACLU and other civil liberties groups are pushing back, but they need our help. And they need it today.
Jeebus, how many times do I have to ask this question: Do you trust the word of George Bush and Dick Cheney? Because I know my answer. And given how much they have been hiding from all of us, and from Congress, and how many times they have lied -- repeatedly -- to all of us? I know what their answer ought to be as well. And yet, how is the system working for the little guy versus the big money corporations who may have aided and abetted lawbreaking on the part of the Bush Administration? Well, things are going quite well for the telecoms:
The telecoms who are being sued for their cooperation in the government's illegal warrantless surveillance program have received billions in government contracts. According to Washington Technology magazine, Verizon received $1.3 billion, Sprint $839 million and AT&T $505 million in federal prime contract revenue for fiscal 2007, for a total of $2.6 billion. While the companies have been government contractors for a long time, it still represents a significant increase in revenue.
Telecom apologists like to suggest that the communications companies' motivation was not financial. As Judge Walker noted [PDF] when examining EFF's allegations of dragnet surveillance: "AT&T cannot seriously contend that a reasonable entity in its position could have believed that the alleged domestic dragnet was legal." Yet, the prospect of $2.6 billion per year can go a long way to explaining why an industry might cooperate with a program far outside the limitations of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), despite the difficulty of believing it was legal.
Note that the numbers represent publicly available information for prime contracting only and do not include subcontracting revenue. Any monies paid for the secret NSA surveillance program would be in addition to the public contracting numbers. (emphasis mine)
By the numbers, from 2003 to 2008, revenues for AT&T, Verizon and Sprint increased by $2,092,855,000. Cozy cronyism, when you can get it, eh?
I smell a rat. In the form of a big "keep your mouth shut" payoff from the Bush Administration that's being recycled into lobbying "street money" to dispense to members of Congress. How much taxpayer money is going out the door in black program contracts, too, to cover Dick Cheney's ass? How much CYA is coming out of my pocket -- and yours? That's an awful lot of "buy yourself some Congressional time" spending money to be throwing around, isn't it? (The next GOP mouthpiece who spouts off about "plaintiff's lawyers looking to make a buck" on the EFF/ACLU suit needs to have these contract numbers thrown right back in their face. On camera.)
It is time to ratchet up the pressure on members of Congress -- especially the leadership. But every member of Congress -- House and Senate -- needs a call today. McJoan suggests phoning "Pelosi (202-225-4965, Fax: 202-225-8259) and Hoyer (202-225-4131, Fax: 202-225-4300) and tell them the Bond bill is unacceptable. Tell them that, if any action is necessary, it would be better to vote to extend the PAA for a year than to give up everything they gained in the bill they passed in February." dday says that Sen. Obama (Phone (202) 224-2854, FAX (202) 228-4260) ought to stand up on this issue. I couldn't agree more.
If ever there were a time to demand that your representatives stand up for the rule of law, for the Fourth Amendment, and against telecom immunity, it would be right now. Ryan Single at Wired lines out all the issues with the proposed compromise, as does the ACLU (here and here). Glenn hits McCain's disregard for the rule of law, as does Slashdot.
The public deserves to know the truth -- about what happened, and about why their tax dollars are being used to lubricate the wheels of legislation on this so-called FISA Compromise, which is nothing more than capitulation to Dick Cheney's demands for crony cover and a wholesale sell-out of the rule of law. Let's hit the phones...
UPDATE: Via KagroX, I find even more reasons to be peevish about this. Arrrrrrrggh. (H/T to RevDeb.)
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Christy!
It might be me, but I’d sure like to see Senator Obama step up and tell Reyes, Hoyer, Rockefeller et al to stand down on this nonsense; that retro-active immunity is NOT a value supported by HIS Democratic Party.
Morning, dakine. How’s tricks with you today?
jus cogens!
Oh same ol same ol.
Trying to remind folks that it’s a marathon not a sprint.
And trying to talk folks down from the ledge and realize that not everything bad is a conspiracy against whomever.
Another typical day in the life of the world.
what do they not get?
if they acted in good faith and followed the law they ALLREADY have immunity
if they broke the law they do not
simple stuff here
I don’t know — I spent most of yesterday trying to e-mail and call a number of staffers in Senate and House offices to find out just exactly what in the hell these people are thinking with this. McJoan hits the nail on the head in her piece linked above that this is not a compromise they have to do — it isn’t necessary — so I started digging on the numbers on this and…voila!…look at that increase in payola!
We are missing some fundamental piece of the puzzle, and I’d say it is coming from KStreet via some pal of Dick Cheney’s, but I haven’t been able to find that missing link yet.
TO THE PHONES!!
Good Morning Christy
back to that “street money”
will Barack Obama’s directive to the DNC on no more PAC/Lobbyist money
have an effect here ?
forgive me if the answer to obvious to all, I”m a little twitterpated by all this morning’s news :D
Christy - did my duty on the House and Senator sides. What are these boneheads thinking - that we are all so excited about Sen. Obama that we won’t notice their slinking around? Huh? Idiots.
Then they haven’t been paying attention, because several of us around the blogs have been tracking this for weeks now — and we’ve been bouncing articles back and forth to keep pressure going. If they thought we’d just back off, they don’t know us very well. Hell, we’ve been talking about this since 2005…
Hi Christy.
Why is it that mention of those 3 bandits triggered a memory of a certain Barbar-shop quartet that used ta’ warble around togedder in the howls of the Senate? Go figure.
btw, if anyone gets an answer one way or the other from any of the elected folks on where they stand on this, do let me know in the comments please…thanks!
Just spoke with a staffer in Sen.Obama’s Washington office who assured me he is on record of opposing any retroactive immunity, FWIW.
Am I understanding you to be saying, Christy, that MONEY is somehow involved?
If that is the case, then should we all not be hitting the banks, rather than the phones?
If we put all ‘our’ money together, then, perhaps, we could persuade Congress which side their bread is actually buttered on.
Some butter the top and some, so I am told, butter the bottom …
On record is one thing. Standing up in the well of the Senate—or pulling Jello Jay over in a corner and telling him what to do like he did with Holy Joe — is another.
Time for him to show some real leadership!
Yep, he is — but neither he nor Sen. Clinton have used much muscle to pressure supporters to stand up on this issue as well. Which is why phone calls are necessary. For example, Jay Rockefeller is an Obama supporter — have they spoken about the bad idea that is telecom immunity? No idea. Haven’t been able to get either office to let me know. But the more pressure we put on these folks, the more they understand that we are watching — and thus far, that’s kept telecom immunity for becoming a permanent fixture…
Thanks for calling and reporting back!
Being “on record” is all well and good. He needs to stand up now and specifically inform Reyes, Rockefeller and the rest that what they are proposing is not acceptable in HIS Democratic Party.
My $.02
Obama needs to have a chat with these folks, STAT.
One hopes one is not holding one’s breath.
Hiya y’all.
I don’t understand the relationship with getting a lot of money in contracts and also getting immunity. Are they using that money to pay the congressmen? Or just to tell them why they want immunity?
imagine the coaches and players of your local major sports franchise had to be cajoled and implored by thousands of plaintive faxes, letters and phone calls in order for them to get out on the field and try to score points for their own team?
because in the absence of such pressure, if it can be called that, the players and coaches just feebly went through the motions, let the other team score, even scored points for them, then shook their heads in mock defeat and hollowly vowed to ‘do better next time’ because they ‘didn’t have the votes’?
but the players and coaches were still obviously very prosperous, and quite content with the state of affairs, clearly having more in common with the coaches and players of the other team than with the rabble in the stands?
since this is sports, where Americans can speak freely and are not strenuously delluding themselves, it would be clear that something crooked was going on, the games were fixed, the rhetoric about New Dawns and Audacious Change was a little bit hollow in contrast to the chummy capitulations being worked out, as with the whole FISA deal.
ah, so the solution must be more and better real players on the old team, that’ll fix everything. Because rooting for a new team is an unthinkable taboo - people who grow up in this neighborhood always, always root for the (D) team, no matter what happens, nuff said, now shut up, no “but, but, but they went along happily with the war crime in Iraq until public opinion turned so decisively against it they had to tactically adjust…”
just another Forbidden Thought on the putting green - now play through!
Okay, Christy. Into the breach, yet one more time. I have to admit to a certain level of battle fatigue. If their goal is to wear me down, they’re gaining. I am beyond tired of the game. But, although their gaining, they’ve not caught me yet… So, one more time.
That sounds a lot like the Dallas mavericks.
Here’s just one example of increases in telecom lobbyist money going to a key player in this. And Glenn has a good round-up as well here.
Do you trust the word of George Bush and Dick Cheney?
You asked? In a word, No.
As much as I try not to buy into conspiracy theories…oh, like, yeah, this site goes down every once in a while because people question authority…I used to have one of those posters that says Just because I’m paranoid, doesn’t mean they are not out to get me.”
jut got off the phone with Reyes’ Intel Comm Office -
completely non committal - thanks for your call blah blah blah - let’s see if I get a little more from his office
Called all above and also Spotlit this post. Perhaps if we pressed the MSM to report on this it would help? Optimistic, I know, but maybe Scottie’s barb is still stinging…..?
LOL.
Beautifully put, er, putted, sporkovat …
Do very much appreciate your comments.
Sen Voinovitch’s office states they aren’t aware of any new FISA bill and wouldn’t have a position on it until it clears committee anyway. Thanks for calling.
Boxturtle (Reasonable position or dodge? You decide.)
Got it!
And is the FISA immunity a problem in the senate, the house or both?
House Intel Comm
all kinds of contact info -
What is it going to take before Congressional Democrats begin representing the interests of the “people” and defending the constitution? It just goes from tragedy to farce. Completely unacceptable.
Christy - I faxed Hoyer and Pelosi.
ah Texas, I’ve heard there might be a little corruption down there sometimes.
but hey, maybe its everywhere, and they just have more style.
Obama’s voice mailbox is full. I guess a fax is in order.
OT - Sen. Byrd released from hospital
Dear Bystander,
Don’t give up. Little Georgie and The Big Dick will do just about anything to ensure there is no testimony from telecoms regarding the enormity of the electronic evesdropping they perpetrated at the behest of Little Georgie and The Big Dick.
It’s becoming obvious that if whatever thy Disfunctional Duo did to request and/or authorize the incredible breach of the 4th Amendment will easily send them to jail for a long time. This will not be the last time.
I want to see those two held accountable for their misdeeds and malfeasance - legally accountable. I also want to see them impeached.
Keep heart. We will hold them accountable.
ITMFA
And it’s not just about cash money either, how can you get lucky enough to have ATT or a similar company build a manufacturing plant in your district, your state? Not now, but there was a time when siting manufacturing plants and operations centers was a feather in a legislator’s fringed benefits cap.
Sen Browns office says they aren’t aware of an FISA compromise, but that he doesn’t support telecom immunity. Also mentioned the bill would likely not go through any of his committees before it hit the senate floor.
Boxturtle (Guessing I’m not the first person to call)
Now that the Lake is back we need to do some Digging to get the Lake’s ratings back up. So digg this post for Christy and the Lake….
and I might add the wires go way back between the telecoms and the pols.
Nice.
Reyes Contact info
El Paso Office (Directions below)
Office Hours: 8:00 a.m.-5:00 p.m. MT
310 N. Mesa, Suite 400
El Paso, Texas 79901
Phone: (915) 534-4400
Fax: (915) 534-7426
How to request a meeting with Congressman Reyes in El Paso: Fax or mail to the attention of Yvonne Escobar. Make sure to include dates, times, attendees, and reason for appointment. Please note that requests cannot be made over the phone.
Washington, DC Office (Click for map of Capitol Hill)
Office Hours: 9:00 a.m.-6:00 p.m. ET
2433 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
Phone: (202) 225-4831
Fax: (202) 225-2016
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Spoke to the offices of my Congressman (Chris Murphy) and Senator (Dodd). I didn’t bother to call Joe. My last communication to him on this subject resulted in a reply that was a monument of self-justification.
I’m afraid we’ll have to prevail without his vote.
Cassero in the house!
my overall point is usually much more unwelcome:
they are playing a different game, they are not ‘our’ Team at all.
but team loyalty is strong, and tribal loyalties are strong, and can lead to vociferous disputes and bar fights, as was seen on another scale in the battle between Obama and Clinton partisans.
indeed such disputes can serve to strengthen tribal bonds, and so very good, carry on.
but, there is room every now and then for a wider view, and the Constitution and the cause of peace are even more important than sports championships.
But the Constitution and the cause of peace do not have a team on the field.
that’s some great leg work christy
we need to let them know that we know and if they want to keep their seat in power they will not do this “compromise”
a few too many mixes in the sports metaphor, but think Black Sox.
Hey, Cassie is in El Paso, have her swing by!
I’m sure it will shock everyone to know that Rep. Hobson is a strong supporter of immunity for telecoms. We’ll have to do without his vote as well.
Boxturtle (Another canned answer)
Oh I would but I am in Austin (and out from behind the camo curtain) this week. Then Dallas. Then Austin again. Then Corpus with my grandparents. Then NEW YORK CITY!!!
Don’t go back to El Paso until August.
Hoyers Office:
1705 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
Phone - (202) 225-4131
Fax - (202) 225-4300
E-mail Congressman Hoyer
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Rockefeller’s office:
531 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC
20510
(202) 224-6472
(202) 224-7665 Main Fax
(202) 228-1610 Scheduling Fax
E-mail Scheduler
So is it too much to expect Chris Dodd to take to the floor again and speak truth with power?
So if I call them, the message is “Don’t give the telecoms immunity” right?
dugg
Around $50,000 in one month went to Jay Rockefeller from AT&T and Verizon. Its like they think they can buy his influence! Rocky needs a primary challenger.
KagroX is also on the case. As expected.
“… if you want my vote” might be a nice way to end that sentence …
((( Cassie )))
That is a most-ecellent question, RevDeb.
It would be ‘nice’ if our ‘representatives’ would do what is needful and proper and ‘right’ without the expectation of ‘reward’
Dodd may well rise to the occassion. The nation needs him to do so.
I suspect, were he to do so, once again, that his action, and courage, would not be forgotten …
OT - MSNBC.com
BREAKING NEWS: Air Force secretary, chief of staff asked to resign, NBC News confirms
Thanks! (I won’t mention that I can’t vote till 2010!)
Oh my — wonder what that’s all about?!?
oh no, thank you Christy for this oh so important post. Called back, spoke to another oh so courteous staffer suggesting she read your post. What a kick it was to know she knew of firedoglake & thanked me, twice. Lordy what a difference between the staffers of both my CA Senators and these two I spoke with in Obama’s DC office.
Dunno. Can’t be good, though.
Air Force Chief, Secretary Resign
Congressman Zack Space’s staffer didn’t know his position on this, asked if I was hoping he would be for or against, I said “against telecom immunity, for the rule of law.”
Ahhhhhh — I knew the guys at Wired would have sourcing on the Air Force resignations. Here you go:
“…The Air Force’s civilian and uniformed leaders are being booted out of the Pentagon, according to Inside Defense and Air Force Times. Chief of Staff Gen. T. Michael “Buzz” Moseley has resigned, and Secretary Michael W. Wynne is next.
The move isn’t exactly a shocker. For months, the Air Force’s leadership has been on the brink of open conflict with Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England. In the halls of the Air Force’s chiefs, the talk has been largely about the threats posed by China and a resurgent Russia. Gates wanted the service to actually focus on the wars at hand, in Iraq and Afghanistan. “For much of the past year I’ve been trying to concentrate the minds and energies of the defense establishment on the current needs and current conflicts,” he told the Heritage Foundation. “In short, to ensure that all parts of the Defense Department are, in fact, at war.”
Last fall, the Pentagon’s civilian chiefs shot down an Air Force move to take over almost all of the military’s big unmanned aircraft. “There has to be a better way to do this,” Moseley complained at the time. Things only got more tense when Gates said that the future of conflict is in small, “asymmetric” wars — wars in which the Air Force takes a back seat to ground forces. Then Gates noted that the Air Force’s most treasured piece of gear, the F-22 stealth fighter, basically has no role in the war on terror. And when a top Air Force general said the service was planning on buying twice as many of the jets — despite orders from Gates and the rest of the civilian leadership — he was rebuked for “borderline insubordination.”…”
Attack on Iran maybe?
I wonder if this has something to do with all the pressure to ‘be a Christian” at the Air Force Academy, etc.?
btw, when I was talking to one of the staffers about the FISA issue yesterday, I got this comment, “oh God, are you going to unleash phone calls again? I’d better let the front office folks know.” hehehehehehe I think you guys are getting a reputation for persistent follow-through…
They should know that there is a way to get the calls to stop.
w00t! Way to go CHS and the fire-in-the-belly-dogs!!!
I hope they are not “tuning out” their constituents’ phone calls…
It may be multiple things, including Christy’s info from Wired (above), your link, and the stuff about the harassment that seemed to continue unbated. Oh, and the Christian mission that many in their senior ranks seemed to promote. In other words, they weren’t following orders and they finally got a boss who wouldn’t look the other way. Imagine that.
there you go! :]
Oh, wait a min. - am I supposed to say, “Hi, I’m xxx and I’m from Firedoglake” when I call? Woopsie.
Will new leadership clean up the religious bias and intolerance at the Air Force Academy? Probably not while Bush continues in office, but it needs to be cleaned up.
I called Reyes’s office from my cell phone! It has an El Paso area code and I told them I am in his district. Way cool!
I’ve done emails before but this was the first phone call.
I can’t help but think of Scottie McClellan right now. Showing up at a time when we’re hooting and hollering about elections, then FISA and Iran are right there to be shoved down our throats. I’m going to call Feinstein and Speier now.
Oh wow! what’d you say? what’d they say?
The first one is a real thrill, isn’t it?
I introduced myself, said that I live in his district and that I think the telecom companies should not get immunity. That they had the right to tell the government “Not without a warrent” and they chose not to even though they have lawyers. And we can’t give them immunity especially if they won’t even admit what they did wrong.
Why do I get this sinking feeling that this FISA sellout is never going away? I called Obamas senate office and suggested that he, as the presumptive nominee should call Reyes and ask him to kill or hold it until after the inauguration.
And the lady just listened and thanked me for calling.
I think there is a tendancy in the AF to focus on countries/militaries/threats that actually have an air power. The Wired article mentiones this, as well. Maybe they weren’t fully on board with the WOT.
More from Wired — rank incompetence and incredibly lax security seems to have been the crux of the matter if this is accurate:
But, according to Air Force Times, “the last straw appears to be a [daming] report on nuclear weapons handling… [that] critical report convinced Gates that changes must be made.”
According to the report, “the service mistakenly shipped four ballistic missile detonators — instead of helicopter batteries — to Taiwan,” Inside Defense reports. “The incident occurred three years ago, but was discovered in March.”
Last fall, the Air Force’s 5th Bomb Wing lost track of six nuclear warheads. Then, in mid-May, the service flunked a nuclear surety inspection, when security personnel couldn’t even be bothered to stop playing video games on their cell phones. Now, it looks like Moseley and Wynne has some serious time to play with, themselves.
The telco money flow described above for 2007 is a drop in the bucket. Telco industry mergers alone over the past five years have generated far more money and even more political power.
Hush money routed to Democrats via K Street to further the interests of Bush’s primary backers? Sounds routine, and safer than a freebie at the Mayflower. If you control the executive and a neocon majority on the Supreme Court, and can co-opt the former minority, now majority, members of Congress, it doesn’t matter what the people say. That is, until they decide to assert their interests together, and more than once every four years.
Please keep those phones and e-mail servers busy. This is not about a single piece of obnoxious special interest legislation. It isn’t even only about them protecting their backsides and staying out of jail. It is about CheneyBush trying to halt the movement to return the government to its original purpose - governing in the interests of all the governed. That’s us.
So, Cassie - what will you be doing in NYC? Where are you staying?
They appear to be getting as practiced at this as we are. Staffer cut me off mid-sentence and put me though to Pelosi’s voice mail. Ergo, all I could do is leave a message.
Just as a precaution, I wouldn’t talk about where you’ll be staying, Cassie. Toby is a great person and asking this in a friendly way — but other people reading your answer may not be benign. Never, ever give out location specifics or personal information online. Thanks!
Follow the money.
From Marcy’s most excellent post on the SSCI report that Pat Roberts and Jay Rockefeller sat on as long as possible.
That ought to be blast-faxed into every congressman’s office who is considering this FISA crap, most especially Reyes.
When the lying scumbags of the 1600 Crew say: Trust us? I say and have for seven years: Never. The fuckers only know how to lie and cover their asses about lying. Reyes pushes this, it should be the goal of every and any thinking Democrat to see he’s unemployed Jan 2, 2009.
Oh, Christy - I am so sorry — I just wanted to make sure she HAS a place to stay. I’m a Mom, too. (head, meet desk)
Touristing! Everything! Broadway and shopping and looking at tall buildings! Staying with my grandparents, and then they are bringing me up to Cornell for the three week program I am doing there.
Oh! Should I ask a mod to delete Cornell?
Delete!!
I knew you were probably just being a Momma — but my prosecutor instincts kicked in. *G* And Cassie, you are probably fine — just no dorm/room info, okay?
Go to the metropolitan museum of art!
My favorite place in nyc. Just plop a quarter down on the counter and they’ll let you right in! :)
Yes maam.
Ha, it’s a bit late for that! Now if you said you were going to Moosewood for lunch on so and so day. . .
My comment got lost. Did it get modded?
You know, that’s a bloody brilliant tactic. Make this an issue Obama has to face now, but can actually forestall until after he beats McCain like a rented mule.
After the inaugural, the TELCOs will be sweating bullets, and rightly so… unless Bunnypants issues some sort of “blanket pardon” to all their CEOs and such as he heads out the door. Can a corporation get a Presidential Pardon? Hmmmmmm….