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	<title>Comments on: Live From Puerto Rico &#8212; &#8216;Presumptive Nominee&#8217; Barack Obama Speaks To SEIU</title>
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		<title>By: looseheadprop</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/04/live-from-puerto-rico-presumptive-nominee-barack-obama-speaks-to-seiu/#comment-1478786</link>
		<dc:creator>looseheadprop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m not suggesting that she should challenge the decision. What I was trying to point out to Paul, is that by asserting these positios pre-emptively before she has made HER decision, he ends up inadvertatnly disrespecting the personhe is trying to support.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rather tha following HER lead.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m not suggesting that she should challenge the decision. What I was trying to point out to Paul, is that by asserting these positios pre-emptively before she has made HER decision, he ends up inadvertatnly disrespecting the personhe is trying to support.</p>
<p>Rather tha following HER lead.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeBuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeBuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;looseheadprop: challenging the Michigan decision would be pointless, as the most Hillary could conceivably get would the shift of four delegates.  She’s lost.  Anyone who thinks that other scenarios are possible is ignoring the reality that the committee that hears the repeal has the same chairs as the committee that met Saturday, and that many of the members who’ve been Clinton supporters in the past are now urging Clinton to just stop (people like Tom Vilsack).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know that this is painful to her and to her supporters, but the task now is to beat John McCain.  Anything that detracts from the process of getting the party together to beat John McCain is harmful to the party and ultimately to Clinton herself.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looseheadprop: challenging the Michigan decision would be pointless, as the most Hillary could conceivably get would the shift of four delegates.  She’s lost.  Anyone who thinks that other scenarios are possible is ignoring the reality that the committee that hears the repeal has the same chairs as the committee that met Saturday, and that many of the members who’ve been Clinton supporters in the past are now urging Clinton to just stop (people like Tom Vilsack).</p>
<p>I know that this is painful to her and to her supporters, but the task now is to beat John McCain.  Anything that detracts from the process of getting the party together to beat John McCain is harmful to the party and ultimately to Clinton herself.</p>
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		<title>By: looseheadprop</title>
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		<dc:creator>looseheadprop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Paul,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Covering a major news story–and this speech is major news story–does nt equal being an apperachick.  Whether you agree with the Michigan decision or not, and meany do not, it is up to Hillary to decide whether to challenge it further, or not.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do Hillary the courtesy of allowing her to decide. She’s got skin in the game.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>Covering a major news story–and this speech is major news story–does nt equal being an apperachick.  Whether you agree with the Michigan decision or not, and meany do not, it is up to Hillary to decide whether to challenge it further, or not.</p>
<p>Do Hillary the courtesy of allowing her to decide. She’s got skin in the game.</p>
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		<title>By: looseheadprop</title>
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		<dc:creator>looseheadprop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Paul, it’s the Union’s feed. They decide what goes out on it, not FDL&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, it’s the Union’s feed. They decide what goes out on it, not FDL</p>
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		<title>By: looseheadprop</title>
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		<dc:creator>looseheadprop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Paul,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama is a politician. A Dem politician. Labor is our base. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When he was running against Edwards and Edwards had albor sewn up, he was natuerally going to say bad things about labor. Now, he needs to make amends with labor and get ready for the general election.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For those who see Obama as a prgamatic politican rather than a latter day messiah, what he is doing makes perfect sense. it’s the professional thing to do.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’s not the second coming of Christ, he’s a professional politician, doing what he is supposed to do.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>Obama is a politician. A Dem politician. Labor is our base. </p>
<p>When he was running against Edwards and Edwards had albor sewn up, he was natuerally going to say bad things about labor. Now, he needs to make amends with labor and get ready for the general election.</p>
<p>For those who see Obama as a prgamatic politican rather than a latter day messiah, what he is doing makes perfect sense. it’s the professional thing to do.</p>
<p>He’s not the second coming of Christ, he’s a professional politician, doing what he is supposed to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Funnydiva2002</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funnydiva2002</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;FYI Christy’s upstairs&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/04/campaign-optics-mccain-is-woefully-lacking/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bread and Circus Manipulation
&lt;/a&gt;apologies in advance if the linky doesn’t work.  I’ve lost the link button in the comments box and might not be remembering the html tags right.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;See ya upstairs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FunnyD&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI Christy’s upstairs<br /><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/04/campaign-optics-mccain-is-woefully-lacking/" rel="nofollow">Bread and Circus Manipulation<br />
</a>apologies in advance if the linky doesn’t work.  I’ve lost the link button in the comments box and might not be remembering the html tags right.
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<p>See ya upstairs.</p>
<p>FunnyD</p>
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		<title>By: cbl2</title>
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		<dc:creator>cbl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;MORT KONDRACKE: Well, John McCain had better start working on his speechmaking and learn how to use a teleprompter. I mean, the gap, the rhetorical gap between this speech and…Oratorical gap between this speech and John McCain’s was vast. John McCain sounded old. This sounded fresh and new and exciting and visionary. And he was enlisting the country to join him in a great cause. This is our moment, all of that.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the paste eaters weigh in -&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;McCain’s Speech    [Amy Holmes/NRO]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;McCain’s speech was creaky, ungracious, and unnecessary. I never understand why politicians don’t take the opportunity, when so easily presented, to simply be gracious and hold their fire. Watching McCain, I couldn’t help but think of the astonishing contrast Barack’s triumphant speech to a massive and adoring crowd will be. It was not a comparison McCain should have invited.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It would have been more statesmanlike ‹ precisely the profile McCain is attempting to craft ‹ to acknowledge this historic moment in American politics. A major party is on the cusp of selecting an African American to be their nominee for President of the United States. It’s a tribute to America that we’ve come this far. It would have been magnanimous to leave it at that, and wait until tomorrow to declare with enthusiasm and relish, “It’s on!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;can’t . . .stop. . .giggling&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>MORT KONDRACKE: Well, John McCain had better start working on his speechmaking and learn how to use a teleprompter. I mean, the gap, the rhetorical gap between this speech and…Oratorical gap between this speech and John McCain’s was vast. John McCain sounded old. This sounded fresh and new and exciting and visionary. And he was enlisting the country to join him in a great cause. This is our moment, all of that.</p>
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<p>the paste eaters weigh in -</p>
<blockquote><p>McCain’s Speech    [Amy Holmes/NRO]</p>
<p>McCain’s speech was creaky, ungracious, and unnecessary. I never understand why politicians don’t take the opportunity, when so easily presented, to simply be gracious and hold their fire. Watching McCain, I couldn’t help but think of the astonishing contrast Barack’s triumphant speech to a massive and adoring crowd will be. It was not a comparison McCain should have invited.</p>
<p>It would have been more statesmanlike ‹ precisely the profile McCain is attempting to craft ‹ to acknowledge this historic moment in American politics. A major party is on the cusp of selecting an African American to be their nominee for President of the United States. It’s a tribute to America that we’ve come this far. It would have been magnanimous to leave it at that, and wait until tomorrow to declare with enthusiasm and relish, “It’s on!</p>
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<p><em>can’t . . .stop. . .giggling</em></p>
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		<title>By: BobbyG</title>
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		<dc:creator>BobbyG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Funny “green screen” stuff from HuffPo:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is not to distract from McCain’s address; that too was poorly reviewed. The most biting of the criticisms came from CNN’s Jeffrey Toobin, who intoned, moments after its conclusion: “That was awful! That was pathetic!”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Josh Marshall, over at TPM, noted: “Here’s how bad it is. All the Fox commentators are giving competing explanation for why McCain’s speech sucked.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But if you think this was strictly a liberal prerogative, here is a sampling of the Republican response to McCain’s general election launch.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s Mark Levin over at National Review’s The Corner: “Not to offend those who might be offended, but this speech is a mash and tough to digest. You have to get through the self-congratulatory praise of independence and commander-in-chief pose from the Senate, then you have to try to follow the inconsistency of some of his big-government ideas vs. his anti-big-government rhetoric, and his inconsistency even on his supposed strength — the surge in Iraq vs. closing GITMO and conferring additional rights on the detainees.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Summing up GOP sentiment was prominent Republican media consultant, Alex Castellanos, speaking on CNN: “Last I checked this was not a speech-making contest, thank God.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny “green screen” stuff from HuffPo:</p>
<blockquote><p>This is not to distract from McCain’s address; that too was poorly reviewed. The most biting of the criticisms came from CNN’s Jeffrey Toobin, who intoned, moments after its conclusion: “That was awful! That was pathetic!”</p>
<p>Josh Marshall, over at TPM, noted: “Here’s how bad it is. All the Fox commentators are giving competing explanation for why McCain’s speech sucked.”</p>
<p>But if you think this was strictly a liberal prerogative, here is a sampling of the Republican response to McCain’s general election launch.</p>
<p>Here’s Mark Levin over at National Review’s The Corner: “Not to offend those who might be offended, but this speech is a mash and tough to digest. You have to get through the self-congratulatory praise of independence and commander-in-chief pose from the Senate, then you have to try to follow the inconsistency of some of his big-government ideas vs. his anti-big-government rhetoric, and his inconsistency even on his supposed strength — the surge in Iraq vs. closing GITMO and conferring additional rights on the detainees.”</p>
<p>Summing up GOP sentiment was prominent Republican media consultant, Alex Castellanos, speaking on CNN: “Last I checked this was not a speech-making contest, thank God.”</p>
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		<title>By: twolf1</title>
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		<dc:creator>twolf1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He’s was about to take questions he said, but now is babbling on.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He’s was about to take questions he said, but now is babbling on.</p>
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		<title>By: Smgumby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smgumby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I like how they have old people lining the green background…  …while McCain still looks sickly in front of it, he is not the only sickly old person on screen.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how they have old people lining the green background…  …while McCain still looks sickly in front of it, he is not the only sickly old person on screen.</p>
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