Ohthankgod. We’re finally in the home stretch of The Neverending Primary, and boy are my arms tired.
On tonight’s program, we have Montana with 16 pledged delegates, and South Dakota, with 15. According to CNN, Obama needs only 10 4 delegates to reach the new, post-MI-FL-seating-plan majority number of 2,118, so unless he gets totally skunked in both states and gets no more superdelegates (they’ve been trickling in all day), he will clinch tonight. ARG has him slightly ahead in MT, and way behind in SD, although FiveThirtyEight Nate disagrees, and believes Obama will actually win SD.
I think it’s all over but the shouting. And there has been a lot of shouting.



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gruntled.
ELIxxxxxxxxxxxooooooooooo heythere
Hey, sadly!
Dodd on KO now
I’m so very ready for the spotlight to be turned onto the general election campaign. It has been exciting, exasperating, shown the highs and lows of human nature, etc, etc, but I am glad that we are coming to the end.
Last Primary Ever?! I thought you were going to say that Bush had declared Martial Law. We’ve all been kind of waiting for that anyway, right? Don’t scare us!
We are watching history. I am so stoked…Its been an long, hard, frustrating road, many battles, big and little but tonight just Wow..
I can haz more primarez, plez.
Without all the commotion I’ll just have to read more books. Damn.
Oh, is there supposed to be another presidential election later? I haven’t been keeping up.
FINALLY!!!
who’s smiling through clinched teeth?
((( Eli )))
It’s been way more fun than our boring elections in Canada …
Finish it!
let the heaking begin now – its been way too much angst for this kid….. jus sayin
Dude, I would have given *anything* for boring.
Yeah, in four years!
And lets don’t forget there are down-ticket races that are just heating up.
Nadine, honey is that you?
Oh, nadine. honey, is that you?
Seems like every time I see you darling you got something else to do
I saw her from the corner when she turned and doubled back
And started walkin toward a coffee colored cadillac
I was pushin through the crowd to get to where shes at
And I was campaign shouting like a southern diplomat
d’uhh – healing it should read
Eli, you have done a great job taking us through these long primary nites.
What have you planned for next Tuesday?
Please, God, just let it end.
Didn’t know Dodd’s father brought civil rights cases in the South in the 30’s and 40’s, including against the Klan.
Have a heart … how’d the MSM survive without fresh blood nightly ?
I had heard rumors…
I’m, uh, going to Disneyland?
If there were a god it would be over.
Yep … needed police escort afterwards … now that is guts !
ELI!!!!11!!!
Whoo. You ain’t bloody kidding.
I’m thinking active de-escalation in comment threads will be my intention for awhile–by way of community service. Here’s hoping it won’t be needed.
Hi everyone.
FunnyDiva
hee hee
In the schadenfreude department, this rises pretty close to the top:
Hiya, FD!
Hahahahaha. I love that.
Eli,
you promise this is the last?
I think that’s partly why we’re all so happy this nomination race is winding the fork down finally.
FunnyD
More and Better Dems.
Nice to hear Chuck Todd talking about other Veep possibilities….
What is that old tubes expression? call the waaaaambulance!!
Yes, but Mr. Simian appears to have a dissenting opinion.
And won them.
God we need his professional successors in the DOJ to start cleaning up.
FunnyD
We’re there yet?
Eli: You’re not like David Brinkley where NBC would trot him out only on election/primary nights, are you?
You do post on other topics here, no? This isn’t…goodbye?
Let’s Digg it!
car wrecks and gunshots – same as it ever was…
eight more
milesdelegatesTypical politics. The race was over in March but the campaign didn’t end until June. Now that it is so close to being over, it feels like a great weight has been lifted.
Whine-one-one, I need a WAAAAAAHHH-mbulance.
Thanks for that tidbit, Teddy. Brings a smile to the face, no?
FunnyD
To steal from and paraphrase Booman:
I want to see a white flag and an acknowledgment that Barack Obama won this contest fair and square and according to the rules. I want to see Hillary Clinton stand up and admit that she lost and that Obama’s victory is 100% legitimate. And then, I hope, the Clinton supporters in the Blogosphere will stop peddling in hate and unsubstantiated innuendo.
I want him to reject her as veep, because to choose her is to deligitimize the extremely strong anti-war sentiments of his supporters. The Repubs are already making ads using Clinton’s spurious “CIC threshold” comments. Can you imagine a Presidential candidate with a veep whose own words are being used against him? Someone please reassure me that this WILL NOT happen!
LOL … so true …
if it flogs, he blogs
Oh, and John Edwards for AG!
Oh, no, the race and gender traitor Michele Bernard is now on my teevee.
“If we’ve lost
CronkiteEli, we’ve lost America”What a long strange trip it’s been.
I’m slightly younger than David Brinkley. Tuesdays just happen to be my one of my regular nights, and primaries are what’s going on, so…
i just want the damned thing over and lets move on to winning in Nov!
That’s exactly what happened in 1960. And JFK/LBJ won.
You mean like George H. W. Bush running with Ronald Reagan after calling Reagan’s economics plan “VooDoo economics?”
She, like Harold Ford, appear to be sucking up … hmmm, maybe it really is over …
At the rate they’ve been coming, he’ll have what he needs before the pols close!
*high fives* dakine01!
If it’s the same, it’s McCain.
Id that snarky? Me no get.
I don’t usually watch these people, so it’s been interesting to say “oh, there’s Timmeh. Oh, THAT’s Noron…”
Thanks god for KO and an occasional cameo from Rachael Maddow (even if I have to suffer PattyBuch).
FunnyD
gettin’ shown that light in the strangest of places …
I would like to propose a toast…
TOO OVER!!1!
I want to see the people of this country recognize this night for what it is. To see an African American become the nominee for president is something I never thought I would see. I cannot help but think of my brothers in the Army that were stuck in that shit because of their race and the associated economic and educational advantage that came with it. Does that mean all the problems about race, class and gender are solved? Hell no but in my pea brain it does represent progress in a country that I sometimes think is no capable of moving forward.
It’s sometimes a drag to get older and have a good memory isn’t it?
Although it does beat most all of the alternatives…
Howdy y’all! I want to see President Obama!
just talked to my youngest, Teh Pop Princess, a few minutes ago. She and my sister have been patiently standing in line at the St. Paul Civic Center along with thousands of other people (per WCCO). The police have been circulating and telling people that there has been a delay and they weren’t able to open the doors on time and to remain patient.
Shit.
TO OVER!!1!
Thought it was “If it leaves a stain, it’s McCain.”
oh, it’s a tuesday thing. good!
Hi Cassie! Should be a wild night.
Hi Cassie – me too!
Me too!
And hi to you!
stuck in chicago airport, so like fd2k2, i’m seeing the cable heads for once — usually don’t ever see them, just hear the bitching about ‘em…
but, cnn claiming obama w/in 6 delegates of majority, even w/o any election results today …
Ah, I get it. I’d wondered why Ford Jr hadn’t sounded as obnoxious as I’d expected.
Bread-buttering time!!
FunnyD
Oh fork. Wonder if it’s a security delay. I don’t like where my mind is taking me…
I never thought I would see it either and I am so proud of the Democratic Party and all those who were open to voting for an African American. Cheers to America.
Honestly, I didn’t even realize that I had become associated with primary coverage…
cassero! You get the bread together for that Cornell gig?
Be cool, it’s a good sign.
on Newshour Judy Woodruff was trying to say it was a tie and I believe it was Michael Beschloss (I was listening on radio) said “sorry, there is a winner and a loser in this primary (run)and Hillary lost” (words to that effect).
((( Raven )))
((((( Cassie )))))
Cas, how is it for you and your peers to see Barack where he is, and where he could very well be in a few months ?
you are the only primary coverage that matters ;)
we look forward to seeing you be the only coverage that matters on other topics real soon!
Hi Mr teddy!!!
Yes Raven. :)
Are there moral victories in politics? Hell, I’m not even sure there are morals.
Yep, he even had the Botox removed from his upper lip so he could kiss (ass) more effectively …
You’re my horse if you never win a race!
What Raven said.
That isn’t very buddhistic! :)
Aw, shucks. But now I have to actually come up with *two* topics every week…
Step back from the ledge -
Astrologically, the planet Mercury is “retrograde.” When mercury, as the ruling planet of things like schedules and communications, is retro, then schedules fall apart and things don’t happen as initially planned for is all.
yeah, i hear becoming a blogebrity can do that to a person. j/k.
I was just kidding around. I’ve only been to the Lake about a year (maybe longer) but not enough to get who posts when on a regular basis or schedule.
Hi Eli and pups:
Just got back in – did I hear that Hillary *wants* the V.P. slot?
help?
thx Raven
I wanted Kucinich at first, but I really like Obama too. He’ll be great for the whole country.
By the way, Grandma has never visited blogs or watched MSNBC before. Usually she watches CNN. But she’s reading this tonight.
So… you’re saying that Mercury is retrograde all the time?
I am not Buddhist ! *g*
What if Hillary pulls a Chee-knee and comes out tonight and announces she is Obama’s running mate?
Sorry, couldn’t resist *g*
Back to read comments in search of coming together to move forward for More and Better Democrats….
Rut roh!
Timmeh just talked about young people and _blacks_.
I thought it was African Americans?
Whew. Good thing he’s not a Democratic candidate or we’d have to parse this for the next 3 days (weeks).
Hi Cassie! Great to “see” you. How’s stuff. When do you get out of school? Summer plans?
FunnyD
Cheers, everyone. Congratulations, Eli on surviving all of this.
Did I miss something? Did Teddy change his handle (perhaps because of the nuptials?)
Tweety says let’s see what Harold Ford has to say.
Let’s not…
It’s how the cable gasbags are keeping our eyeballs tonite, and how the Clinton campaign may make tonite about her instead of Obama. But mainly I blame the cable gasbags.
Yeah, I thought that was odd. Regardless of whether it’s a good idea or not, I just can’t imagine it happening, and I’ve felt the same way ever since the “Dream Ticket” idea was first floated.
Me neither but I likes em!
No but it does go retro approx 3 times a year for a month or so each time, so it does seem that way sometimes.
Hiya Grandma !
Cassie has many fans here who will support her run for office, whenever she’s ready …
Mercury is my ruling planet, I will take this as a good thing.
Welcome Cassie’s grandma!
hear hear.
what’s weird is I don’t even think of obama as “black” but when i look at mccain I think Old White Person. I live in a pretty conservative neighborhood, and you wouldn’t believe how many Obama signs are on the front lawns. For me it’s been “what do you stand for?” and “can I stand beside you, too?”
I enjoyed Timmy saying that McCain is going to run on the American Dream. That dream would be to marry rich and cook really good BBQ so you can convince Timmy of anything you want..
I read the Dhammapada and tell some stories of Siddharta during my meditation classes … Buddha was da bomb !
Teddy changed his handle to his real name for book salon on Sunday; no nuptials yet!
I like the fact that Obama is biracial like I am, even if it is different races. But I like what he says about hope and about us ALL moving forward.
There are so many mixed signals for so long, I just wait to see what happens now…
Hi, Grandma! Welcome to the Lake!
They finally got some “Veterans For Obama” bumper stickers on his website do I can decorate my rides!
Ooops, we’ll have to clean the place up a bit. Can’t have Grandma thinkin’ we’re a bunch of DFH’s.
Thanks for the update, Teddy. And best of luck for getting everything to go just as you dream.
Actually, Ford is not sounding too Fordlike right now
Hi Snarky! You have the nicest family! :] Welcome, grandmother of snarky.
I just can’t imagine it happening, and I’ve felt the same way ever since the “Dream Ticket” idea was first floated.
Well, put me in the minority column who thinks it’s a good idea.
If nothing else, Obama *must* float the offer, or be willing to kiss a few million female voters good-bye.
Do y’all like Harold Ford? I like what he just said about Obama’s life and finances against McStupid marrying a beer fortune.
(((Raven))) I was just posting over at another place that like Barack, i do not share African lineage in this country (my lineage is through slaves in Brasil) but I know that after all the struggles, the ancestors (african american, african brasilian, etc.) are celebrating.
gtg pups. as our guvernator says “I’ll be bach”.
Do not forget that Barack is genetically half woman too …
Women: X X Chromosomes
Men: X Y Chromosomes *g*
Oh, goody. Might just put one of those on me twuck. And one on my Rethug boss’s car.
I remember worrying about that about a year ago. The casseroo was looking for a book references and I told her about “Dispatches”. When I found out that she was a pupster I became concerned. I was informed she could deal. . .remember cass? Did you read it?
Oh what a crock o stupidness. Timmeh and Ford chewing over who can identify with BO and who might not be able to…
Feh. Couldn’t we do some celebrating before getting back to the the stupid horserace speculation 24/7.
Then again Ford is kicking the #@$# out of the “BO is elitist” meme.
Grrrrr.
FunnyD
i think we’re all behaving ourselves tonight (so far)
Welcome Grandma!
Oh, a half-breed.
Typical wishy-washy Democrat, trying to be all things to all people. John McCain had his X chromosome surgically removed.
dude, you missed the “love handles” set-up…
Ha! Grandma just laughed and said that she was a DFH in the 60’s. She thinks she is the same age as most of you.
Me too cassie (from one bi-racial pup to another)
ROFL
Cassie, Harold Ford is chairman of the “Democratic Leadership Council” (DLC) which many people here think is too conservative or too supportive of corporations rather than regular people.
I like what he said about Obama just now.
She’s proly younger.
It’s all about the winning. We can’t afford to lose!
That was great — it’s good to hear Harold move beyond the DLC corporate line. I hope he says more about McCain “marrying a beer fortune” because I think it offends on so many levels!
So, is she OK with Grandma being her screen name or does she have another preference?
Good to see you jayt! Love ya man, but…
Previous thread or the one before covered the VP thing. PLEASE.
FunnyD
John McCain, Elitist.
i know she is but not by that much. I’m mid twenties *g*
Shirley Golub, Nancy Pelosi’s primary opponent, is still running ads during MSNBC commercial breaks, and the primary is today! Way to reach engaged voters who may have forgotten to vote, Shirley!
Yep. I’ve read it a couple times. Sits right next to “A Bright Shining Lie” and “Fire in the Lake” in one of my bookshelves.
If you saw “Apocalypse Now,” Herr wrote the dialog for the sequences where Willard is reflecting, etc.
“Dispatches” is a great primer if one wants to study Viet Nam.
For those (like me) who want to watch this mess on C-Span – 1 & 2 are currently held by Goopers Joe Barton and Inhofe.
Cindy would probably rather be called a “beer fortune” than some of the things he has called her
I’m a bit skeptical of Ford’s comments … appears to be jockeying for position … Barack’s gonna need a bigger butt for all the *ss kissing that’s gonna start … sorry grandma ! *g*
*waving*
Hi, Cassie’s G’ma!!! Welcome to the Lake. We luuuurves us your Cassie around here, and are sorry she’s not able to be here more often. You must be sooooooo proud of her, she’s an amazing young lady.
FunnyD
About two more hours and we will close the polls here in Montana and put all of you (and us) out of your misery.
It’s all about the winning. We can’t afford to lose!
Yep. An unbeatable ticket – the down-ticket effect isn’t to be ignored either. That ticket brings pretty much the entire Democratic party to the polls on election day…
Oh, and Johnny Mac – PLEASE pick Bobby JindalWho? for your V.P. slot. Can you say landslide?
Grandma, has Cassie showed you how to post a comment on FDL?
bless you Dr. Dick
Wonder how “beer trollop” goes down?
Do you think the DLC is gearing up for a new boss and hopefully a new set of priorities. I don’t think Lieberman, Rahm or Mark Penn are going to be calling the shots on Democratic strategy anymore:)
Thank Jeebus !
My bad, I was wonderin if Cassie read it. I knew you did!
Hey Cassie! Are you totally psyched about your brother’s wedding?
Oh sure, then they’ll blame it on the Brown Guy ! *g*
This Bud’s for you.
endlich! Thank you montana and South Dakota.
McCrazy is giving a speech in NOLA tonight. Wonder which personality will show up tonight. Supposedly he is going to separate himself from shrub (the speech is addressed to dems and independents). Oh nevermind, the maverick is going to show up.
Need to prepare for this speech (where is my puke pail)
I’m not touching THAT comment!!!
: )
Not to mention that she said McBush would make a better pres than Mr. Obama…
Hi Cassie’s Grandma your daughter does write some good stuff!
Does BO pick the new leader ? He has supposedly chosen Dean’s successor …
LOL.
I left one title out if someone wants some further reading.
“The 10,000 Day War”
I must feed Mr. Doodle so he’ll let me play on the computer the rest of the night.
Just for fun…
Obama’s Horoscope
See y’all in a few.
Ford hasn’t been there very long, but maybe he’s starting to maneuver tonight to keep his spot…
I would be happy to see the DLC adopt a set of policies more in line with the mainstream (or even the progressive stream) of the Democratic Party…
Oh dear he is going to go after the media for annointing Obama (even though it was the numbers that got Obama the nominations)
He is going after Hillary’s supporters.
Amazing, Mccrazy is turning on the media.
Is Tweety drunk tonight?
McCain speaking from NOLA tonight? that’s an obscenity.
Matthews asking what McCain’s beef is with the media — reading McCain’s statement about how “pundits and party leaders have decided Barack Obama will be my opponent.”
Now a major MSNBC laughfest among millionaires about their lack of influence on the process. These clowns are incredibly self-absorbed and unself-aware at the same time!
mostly
Is he making sense?
Is he sober any night ?
Before it’s over McShitForBrains will be biting his own butt.
They Marched Into Sunlight: War and Peace in Vietnam and America, October 1967
By David Maraniss
In Pharaoh’s Army: Memories of the Lost War (Paperback)by Tobias Wolff (starts on the drive from Dong Tam to My Tho)
Late Thoughts on an Old War: The Legacy of Vietnam (Hardcover)by Philip D. Beidler
They baked him a cake.
Maybe he is going to talk about all the things he has done to help NOLA since Katrina.
Now, let’s see, what would that include?
… and smacking the media … he should ask Edwards how that worked out …
A “suburb” of NOLA, per David Shuster earlier….
Wow, Tweety *is* taking some pretty good shots at the Republicans.
New Cliff liveblog
How come those places sound so familiar? /s
He provided an endless supply of fresh water, carefully stored in Budweiser bottles …
Tweety was laughing so hard…the idea that McCain could call the media the enemy.
Why does McCain hate America?
Oh. Dear. God. The Montana primary just made the BBC news. I think the end of the world is nigh.
Amen!
Yep. But he is going to make a play for Hillary supporters. Can’t say I blame him for trying but the NOLA setting is stomach turning. I just keep picturing the birthday cake in the Arizona hangar with chimpy
He did say, “We’re having some fun here tonight,” and asked a U.S. Senator if it was true Larry Craig was going to start his book tour at the Minneapolis airport
I am shocked, shocked one could find any base meaning in my wholesome comment
He also wrote “A Boys Life” that was a pretty good flick with De Niro, Ellen Barkin and Di Caprio.
Are you sure maybe McCain is going to announce how he plans to for the war I hear his economic advisers former Texas Sen Gramm sold Death Bonds on Texas Teachers for UBS bank.
Gramm helped lobby Texas officials, including Gov. Rick Perry, to sign on to a UBS proposal in which revenue would be generated for a state teachers’ retirement fund by selling bonds, whose proceeds would in turn be used to buy annuities and life-insurance policies on retired teachers. UBS would advance money to the retirement fund, then repay itself, compensate bondholders and pocket profits when insurance companies paid off on retirees who died.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/139443
No wonder McCain and the GOP are so against National Healthcare Americans
living longer than expected by the life insurance companies would sooo cut into their profits.
hope you’re meaning all the implications of that …. ;)
McCain making a prime-time speech during the night when all of America tuning in for the Democratic drama -> stoopid.
“Hey, McCain, get off my teevee!”
*crickets* oh yeah, he did suggest they level the city.
Kevin Phillips Bong is not doing well at all.
Take me down little Susie take me down
I know you think you’re the queen of the underground
Pat Buchanan may be a bastard, but his analysis of McCain’s strategy is spot-on.
nice cut from Shuster!
I’m sure. they were reading from the prepared speech.
Dang, Ya’ll have been busy while I was busy on my new post…
Howdy Cass!!!
Welcome to the Lake, Grandma, jump right in, the waterz fine!
I can’t believe we finally won one. I’ve never voted for a wi nning candidate!
Yep. A gift, for what it’s worth.
I missed some implications when I first read that
If the cover the Yellowstone buffalo kill, I’ll get off the road quick: imminent Rapture.
I miss Alistair Cooke’s letter from America at 4 in the morning the BBC and old 70’s music was the only thing on. I wonder how he would have covered a Montana Primary giving Obama the nomination.?
She gave up. We move to fast. She’s making dinner.
moi?
I guess it’s not so much surprising perceptiveness as surprising honesty.
trying to eclipse the dems. he knows (well his campaign knows) that many folks will be tuned in tonight to see the dem primary end so he times his speech to capture some of the dems (Hillary voters who feel wronged) and independents. It would be great if in the middle of his speech, Hillary went on.
or imminent rupture.
I must share this with you guys. Ron just came in and said, “John McCain is truly the agent of change. Depends.”
You probably don’t want to take her to Eschaton, then…
Heh, hard to keep up on a primary thread! Aloha, Missie! ;-)
When life hands you whipped cream…
McCain is about to run out of running room, head-to-head battle soon. Security-Moms, etc.
it was certainly a good line …
Excellent … there are prolly two thousand firepups present … what’s cooking ? *g*
He’s the agent in charge of changing the Depends.
Well, he probably *does* change himself, so that would technically be true.
what does Pat say mcsame is up to?
(out in the concourse of chaos and away from tv’s)
Hi CT!
“John McCain thinks you’re stupid.”
NBC Nightly reporter on energy costs took a real shot at BushCo with a comment during his report about going begging to the Saudis. Maybe the gloves are off at GE/NBC?
Tuna casserole and salad.
Truss McCain to bring out the best in people…
What’s for din-din? I’m hungry.
That McCain will take advantage of Hillary’s supporters grief. Woman scorned, etc.
LOL !!! Give him a hug and kiss from me, please …
He’s trying to appeal to alienated Hillary supporters by saying that pundits & political insiders delivered the nomination to Obama.
“You’ve all been disenfranchised by your party! Vote for me, vote for me!”
mmmm … grandma’s cooking is the best in the world !
When are you headed to Cornell? I hope ya keep us up to date on your adventures there…! *g*
lmao
yeah — that seems about right. thx.
Nothing is gonna make them run to Obama faster … Thanks John ! *g*
gah, chuck tod breaking out the red team/blue team maps
:0===|
Yeah McCain has never given any answer on how he intends to pay for the war. Current political advice is not to announce your ideas so the other side can’t attack them.
I say if you won’t tell us then I will fill in the blank myself and my imagination is worse than your nightmares.
Because voters are paying attention this election candidates can’t hang back and play it safe.
The hard core activists of both parties are not going to decide this election nope the 70%ers are believe it or not Pups this time we are the Moderates.
And we want answers!
Going to New York in a few weeks! Cornell is a month after that.
His voting record wrt women’s issues has been appalling. He is no friend of women and to play on their emotions like that (because they are disappointed is just gross). But then again, so is John McCain
Oh, I hope McCain picks Tom Ridge, implementer of the foolish color-coded alert system. The Bush stink is still on him….
Yah, didn’t learn much from Scotty’s reception after _he_ bashed the media.
Maybe the pushback will derail the FreeRide Express!
FunnyD
right on!!!
Chuck Todd: McCain has trouble exciting Evangelicals … who writes that stuff ?
Chuck Todd drops RGJoe’s name as a possible VP nominee on McCain’s ticket
ugh
Kewl! For somebody that never left Texas, you’re gonna rack up some serious mileage, eh? 8-)
Out of that lot, Ridge seems the best choice … McCain is in Trouble …
Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease….
I’ve been to New Mexico a few times now.
guess that means no more costco ribs?
why would mcsame think he needs to pay for the war? worked our pretty well for chimpy not to even try paying for it …
gawd, this election ought to be so easy to win. I’m predicting some personal turmoil as it rolls out and mcsame is actually taken seriously by some percentage of the people.
I like this “show text” thingy!
i think that’s where the beer trollop comes in, no?
just talked to my daughter, Teh Pop Princess, at 7:25. The line waiting to hear Obama speak has started to move into the Civic Center, she and my sister have progressed one block, four to go before they’re inside. She sent me a picture of their place in line, i’ve given a link to my picasa page where i uploaded it.
Chuck Todd drops RGJoe’s name as a possible VP nominee on McCain’s ticket
Maybe he can repeat his “can’t deliver Florida” strategy for Johnny Mac this year.
And Harry Reid will probably still say that he’s a good and loyal Democrat, with whom he has only a few minor quibbles.
Like actually being a Republican, for example.
Heh, I hear ya! But, New Mexico is only a couple of miles from El Paso…! 8-P
yup, a great way for McCain to distance himself from Bush’s third term.
I wonder whether the Democratic Party would have legal grounds for prohibiting Lieberman from calling himself a “Democrat” on the ballot
Or even an “Independent Democrat”
For President: John Sidney McCain III (Republican)
For Vice President: Joseph Lieberman (Connecticut for Lieberman)
If President Obama doesn’t get Reid turfed …
A five block line to get in?! Wow.
BTW, Petro, my local liquor store is now carrying Chimay… I thought, hmmm… I should try a some… I grabbed a bottle and then I about dropped it… $10.99 a bottle…!!!
It was at least that bad to get tickets to see Obama when he came here to Missoula earlier this spring. The man definitely has charisma.
Nooo … a brown guy on the Neocon/Repug platform … Ponnuru and D’Lousa must be in ecstasy …
What’s “turfed”?
How big is that bottle ? It costs about 3 Bucks in socialist Canada … *g*
Try the White Cap, Red and Blue are darker Beers …
turfed??
“tossed”
I saw Bill Clinton in El Paso, but didn’t get a chance to see Obama. :( :(
A five block line to get in?! Wow.
May 5, in Indianapolis, the line was six and a half-blocks when I finally found the end of it. The man does draw a crowd. The police were forced to wind those in line up one block, across, then down the other side of the block – like the velvet rope thing at the post office…
1.5 liter bottle, and I’d grabbed the blue cap, but, they had all three there… But, $10.99…???
I did not get to see anybody. That is the problem with working. ;-p
McCain on MSNBC now.
Ew! McStupid is speaking.
Tweety says the vice president (i.e. possibly Hillary Clinton) has “no authority whatsoever”
I wish somebody would have told Darth that about seven years ago
McCain speaking now…
Hey McCain – get off my
lawnteevee!!yeah, dollar to euro doesn’t help. but it is awfully good … we vote for the trippel / white …
The Clinton thing was on a Saturday.
Oh, okay we get the 330 ml size for 3 bucks a bottle … trust me, you’ll love it. Most times, I only have one bottle, it’s that satisfying …
I wish somebody would have told Darth that about seven years ago…
Post-Darth, the V.P. slot may never be the same. Darth showed that there *can* be power in the office. If used for the right purposes, I’m all for it. It’s gonna take more than one person to fix this mess.
McCain says no matter who wins, the direction of the country is going to change tremendously–the quesstion is, forward, or backward?
The latter, I’m sure, for McSame…
Actually, we had Hillary and Obama both here the same weekend. You had to get a free ticket to get into the Obama rally which sold out before I could go get one. The Clinton fund raiser was for high dollar donors only (which does not include me).
So totally full of crap. Stiff and stilted. Obama will wipe him off the map.
I’m gonna work on the better half to get a couple of bottles for my B’day… Or wait till Petro gets his much awaited Publishing deal…! I’m banking on my B’day, tho…! ;-)
theres another thread: http://firedoglake.com/2008/06…..e-edition/
I don’t like dark beers, so I find the WhiteCap to be the best …
Speaking of
BoobsBeers, heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere’s Johnny !!!Oh ye of little faith … *g*
they showed up a little after 5:15 and got at the end of a five block line, people were just starting to flood into the area.
Old man yells at cloud
Luv that energetic spontaneous demonstration. Wow. Hope no one gets hurt.
There are, what? — about eighty people in that room?
Is he *supposed* to look pained?
with “satisfying” standing for both tasty *and* strong ;)
watching McCain, it occurs to me – I need coffee.
I’m sure that it’s just a coincidence of timing…
Jeebus, has anyone told Grandpa’s crowd that the speech has started? “Restrained” might be a kind word for the response thus far…
404 error..! 8-(
Then I am REALLY lost cause I went to a different upstairs.
So pithy and snappy. Granpa’s gonna sit sonny down and straighten him out about a few things. OOOOOO, scary evil chuckle.
You’re not lost…! Ya went to Cliff’s site!
Purely robotic, both the speaker and the audience. He better stop soon before everyone needs their nap.
new thread:
http://firedoglake.com/2008/06…..ant-stuff/
Sounds more like a Rolling Stones gig, fer cryin’ out loud.
Or today, a Dixie Chicks gig.