Can you Digg it?

Zed!

Good gravy, I wish I’d have liveblogged that last bit, Cliff.

Picturing the old man shaking his fist at kids, sputtering, “Get off mah lawn, you urchins!”

I am confused. I thought I saw this post a while ago with a couple of comments on it. I thought I even left a comment.

*poof*

Aawww, Neuro, ya denied me once again…!

Cassie left a comment there, too

There seem to be a few more people at Obama’s speech than McCain’s.

First comment AND first Digg. Do we have a name for that?

I know it’s not “zed”…!

But I don’t think it was really the first comment. I think FDL just had a hiccup.

Couple, maybe…

this was the moment!

great speech, now, can we make it happen?

Power-couple.

Hmmm. Why are we on FDL now, and not on Cliff’s blog?

Nice!!!!! I am ready for change. We can do it. Yes we can.

Change is not a word that describes the McCain-Bush agenda, a war that “never should have been authorized and never should have been waged.”

Questions that have never been asked because the conclusions would lead to a Cognitive Dissonance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance describes this war.
Groupthink by the Press by the Army, by Congress describes this war.

” Groupthink is a type of thought exhibited by group members who try to minimize conflict and reach consensus without critically testing, analyzing, and evaluating ideas. During groupthink, members of the group avoid promoting viewpoints outside the comfort zone of consensus thinking. A variety of motives for this may exist such as a desire to avoid being seen as foolish, or a desire to avoid embarrassing or angering other members of the group. Groupthink may cause groups to make hasty, irrational decisions, where individual doubts are set aside, for fear of upsetting the group’s balance. The term is frequently used pejoratively, with hindsight.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink

This was the moment!

Wow.

In ancient Rome, when Cicero gave an oration, they said, ‘What a good speaker he is,’ ‘ Sorensen recounted. ‘When Demosthenes spoke, they said, ‘Let us march.’ ‘

I feel like marching.

Got nominee?

fdl switched to nonlinear time when it changed servers.

Evil parallel universes! Cliff has a post up at his place with the same headline as this one, but the text is different.

This war is a class in the group dynamics of social disfunction.:)

17,000 people inside the arena where Obama spoke, and another 15,000 outside

I’m back. Mr. Marion in Savannah and I are agreed. For almost the first time in our lives (I’m 62, he’s crowding 70) we have a candidate we can vote FOR, as opposed to voting against the opposition. We are both pleased. Very, very pleased.

So the question is, do we comment over there so we don’t have to comment over here, or do we comment here so we don’t have to comment over there?

Thanks for that profound insight.

Proverbial kool=aid drinking.

fdl switched to nonlinear time when it changed servers.

I think we’ve got pups all over the place - heh.

Yes, Jane posted a new piece not very long ago

This is our next President.

Now what city was he in lets divide the cities population by the total at the Obama rally and then do the same for the largest crowd McCain has ever gotten, or Bush for that matter.
Bwahahaha!

Timmeh compares Obama’s speech to McShame’s.

“McCain can’t compete with this”.

Obama’s speech was awesome and gave me hope for sure.

Super gracious to Hillary… and even to Bill at one point.. make up for that Reagan was a great president slight without Bill on his list.

Yes! Barack… you can do it!

She seems to talk rings around McCain’s attacks on him!

Jane was before this post, but apparently there’s another one somewhere after this. They’re coming too thick and fast for me to keep up with. I’m thinking that this evening, for election and political stuff, I’ll stick with Cliff.

Several of us were lost over there in another dimension. I really thought I was on this thread. Wobbly and I had a good time watching history together.

Another wrinkle in the space/time continuoum: when you go to Cliff’s blog and click on the site meter, you get the statistics for FDL, same as here.

correction:

HE (Obama) can talk rings around McCain!

great work on KPFA, Cliff - wish they had had you on longer.

I’m having a profound identity crisis: for the first time in my life, the next First Lady is going to be younger than me!

Timmeh made a point earlier of mentioning that at least in his childhood, his family was Democratic (for JFK–”he’s one of us”)

That was Timmeh who said that, wasn’t it?

Dang I forgot to tie it all in with Cool aid thanks! Libbyliberal. Must remember that Cool aid is the common denominator that ties in Everything!

McCain might be better off never getting within 100 yds of Obama. He sounded liked a diseased frog to Obamas Seraphim. Debates will not be kind to the codger.

Welcome to the club! Both Clintons are younger than I am, to say nothing of the Current Occupant.

Something tells me there won’t be a lot of them.

Cheer up. For the first time ever, I am older than the next president of the US - by 9 years.

To toss another wrinkle in the space-time continuum, Teddy has a new post up…! 8-)

It feels good, in a strange way!

I’ve been picking up little flares of humanity from Tweety too… Weird.

While doing research for Teddy’s “Things younger than Mccain” thread, I learned that Kool Aid was originally spelled Kool Ade, but they had to change it because of government regulations about what kinds of bevereges could be labeled as “ade”

And the front page posts are coming fast and furious! Teddy is upstairs with the latest from Iowa!

I mean, what Ctuttle said…

Trick question?

Yes we can!
Hard work and time involved, however, not to mention money. But so much easier to do that work with a leader who believes in us as human beings. Sounds hokey, maybe, but committing to be our “very best selves” will be no small thing–and it will mean everything to getting our country back on track.

FunnyD

707!

Tweety is a real mixed bag

NYT headline says: First Black to Lead a Major Party Ticket. Tweety says the black man. Whazzup with this? Whose scary black man fearmongering blast email are the BaseServile media reading from tonight?

Funny to watch the MSNBC krewe trying to make an equivalency between the McCain and Obama speeches. Really, really sad for McCain tonight.

the talking heads needs to tan their eye sockets too

I’m drooling, and getting out the BIG bowls for popcorn, waiting for the presidential debates. Let’s figure out the over/under on how many McSame will allow. I say 1, and no more than 1. More than 1 and he’s just totally scrod.

I find it VERY refreshing!

Well, apparently Harold Ford is capable of praising Obama as effusively as he praises McBush

HE (Obama) can talk rings around McCain!

Obama can speechify rings around Hillary. That’s not the issue. The issue is whether Obama can handle a debate — he failed miserably against Clinton, and then ran away from any further debates

(and yeah, the last debate he participated in was unfair — politics ain’t beanbag, and he desperately needs practice in handling those kinds of situations — and as the “presumptive nominee” should have take full advantage of the opportunity. But he ran away.

so don’t be so certain that he’s going to wipe up McCain…..

Pop Princess at the St. Paul Civic Center Update:

received two more pix from my daughter at 9:15 pm CDT … Obama speaking finally (the last 2 pics of the 5 in the album are the updates). As Da Spook snarkily remarked, look at the hordes of dark-skinned folk getting ready to take over amerika! Mostly i see fish-belly white minnesotans, but what do i know? I must be color blind or something /s

Well, if they were to stare directly into the sun for about 8 hours, they would be no more blind than they are now.

Don’t you think they would have said “first woman to lead…” It’s a fact.

Why black instead of African-American?

And Bob Herbert has a reality check up at the NYT.

Perhaps Luccabrazzi can take a moment out from the taunting to read it.

Goodnight, folks. Our country made real progress today.

Really, really sad for McCain tonight.

Yeah… [snort] I really felt for him… [giggle] It’s too bad he couldn’t rent a larger venue for his speech… [ROAR!!! and 707!!!] Poor old thang…

Poor old thang…

LOL!

McLame is punchy, incoherent, robotic, and counter to the wishes of the people on every issue. Obama will destroy him.

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Thanks to Jim Jones’ groupthink …shudder.

But I need to be reminded of the psychology behind the cliche!

Eckhardt Tolle writes in A New Earth about the dangerousness of the “collective ego” … of an administration… a country, etc. He said the Viet Nam protestors and hippies challenged the social egotism in the 60s!

good point marion.

the Obama supporters are already in trouble in the “race-boating” category thanks to the malicious and false attacks against the Clinton. Seeing bias and “coded messages” where there are none makes it that much harder to make the claim when they do exist. (And don’t think that everytime that a false accusation is made, that white votes aren’t lost. They ARE lost — and its the race-boating, not racism, that has created such problems for Obama among white rank and file democratic voters.

Why black instead of African-American?

Forgive me. As an old white broad I’m not qualified to comment on the niceties of current terminology. The folks I work with call themselves black, but what the hell do I know? [Sorry for the tantrum. I’m heading to bed now before I have another.]

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care for some pie?

G’night Jim W.

Our country has culminated a lot of progress from the last many moons tonight (if I can even use that verb that way). Just to say it’s been a process and tonight is “the end of the beginning”. Well, I hope so!

FunnyD

First results just in from the Montana primary and with 9% reporting Obama leads by 20 points (59%:39%). This is well above the already lopsided early estimates. It looks like I am going to see something I never expected to see in my lifetime, a black President.

That’s right…
Play right into the hands of…
It’s a party folks - we got ourselves a NOMINEE!!!

Jeez, what a load of %$#@.

I think Obama outspeaks Hillary.

But I did also think tonight… all THREE speakers have integrated some of the populism of Edwards…. so I felt some gratitude to him, too….

So, where do all y’all think the FirePup party has scampered off to?

FunnyD

All of Montana’s superdelegates have also come out for Obama.

Tester from MT talking now to Tweety. Hey, didn’t I support Tester through this site? Yes, I did. Go Montana!

Hillary is fired up and ready to go!

Do y’all realize that you almost can’t find a black person in Montana (I don’t know the stats, but I do know I was pretty surprised.) I love, love, love that Montana understands that it’s time for change. God love ya, MT. You give the rest of us hope.

We like him. He is also one of the most popular politicians in the state (Gov. Schweitzer and Sen. Baucus are also at the top). Unfortunately, Rep. Denny “I am a tool for the lobbyists” Rehberg (R-Shitheel) is also extremely popular and unlikely to lose this election, though a boy can always hope.

We have exactly 0.4% African Americans her in Montana and even fewer Hispanics. Our largest minority group is Native Americans at about 6%. We are in the top ten whitest places in America.

It’s amusing watching the talking heads screw their brains in to the New Reality.

When my daughter moved back to Montana, I was thrilled. Because there is so much hope there. She’s in Bozeman….and one only has to be there a day to understand “Big Sky” — and I’m so proud that Montana is so fresh, inspired, diversified, interesting and forging new paths. Just wonderful!

Oh, no one will get that. When I wrote ‘diversified’ I wasn’t seeing color. Silly me. I mean, of course, diversity of thought. You’ve got the academics, the farmers, the ranchers, the Native Americans, the shopkeepers, et al. It’s just like how I used to feel about California back in the day. We were all just folks getting along. I kind of miss that. I actually miss that alot.

Good evening all.

Did someone mention that South Dakota is a closed primary? In other words the greater support from moderate and conservative Democrats for HRC has continued until the last day.

Er, Cliff, Romney won Montana all the way back in February. Don’t see how it’s relevant.