Republicans know that when people find out just how joined at the hip St. McCain is with George W. Bush, they’ve got no chance in November. So except to see a lot more of this kind of tripe, today courtesy of McBobo:
…the Obama people are too convinced that they can define McCain as Bush III. The case is just factually inaccurate. McCain will be able to pull out dozens of instances, from torture to global warming to spending, in which he broke with his party, as Rush Limbaugh will tell you.
Here’s a pretty good rule of thumb: if you’re using El Rushbo as a proof point, your thesis is probably total bullshit. And incidentally, McCain voted against the torture ban, siding with Bush. So scratch one of the three issues McBobo cherry-picked.
But as McBobo knows very well, this election isn’t going to be won or lost on torture or spending or even global warming. So let’s take a look what poll after poll indicates are the three most substantial issues that will be on voters’ minds in November:
- Iraq: St. McCain loves Bush’s Iraq war more than anyone but Bush
- The Economy: Roy Blunt admitted McCain is Bush III on the economy and McCain wants to make Bush’s tax cuts permanent
- Health Care: Just like Bush, Maverick Boy doesn’t think the gubmint has any role to play in health care, thinks tax cuts will solve the problem — and he even sided with Bush on S-CHIP
Want more?
- Social Security: St. McCain supports Bush’s privatize social security scheme
- Education: St. McCain backs Bush’s No Child Left Behind and counts Jeb Bush as an education adviser
- Bush: St. McCain the Maverick voted 100% with Bush in 2008
See, totally different! How could anyone possibly conflate them!?
Look, I don’t blame McBobo’s crowd for trying to create some space between St. McCain and Bush — they’ve got no choice, since Bush has been a total disaster and everyone hates him. But like the Bush-McCain war in Iraq, it’s a fool’s errand. On the biggest issues of the day and lots of smaller ones, St. McCain would be Bush III, and Obama will hammer this over and over again until November.
Sucks to be you, GOP.
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GOPs: Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?
omg — McCain is talking about this very thing right now! He says he ISN’T Bush’s Third Term! Wow, what an idiot — why would he actually say that?
Holy hell. Everybody watching MCSame’s speech?
I’m actually embarrassed watching him he’s so goddawful.
This jumping from blog to blog is fucking weird.
Seems like it would be possible for someone with editing skills to reverse that statement into the truth…
Heh, Obama will rip him a new one, in the debates…! Should be highly amusing to watch…! ;-)
yeah BT!
gah, McCain trying to put the electorate asleep.
Anyone for McCain dollars?
i just ran and got my vomit airsickness bag
Seems like it would be possible for someone with editing skills to reverse that statement into the truth…
Yeah, and someone with speaking skills might, at some point, get a teensy bit of reaction from his own crowd…
He *is* succeeding at drawing a few boo’s, very few cheers…
Hi
I just got lost at the lake. I lost the whole lake and ended up in an inlet somewhere and it was SCARY! But Marion gave me goggles, flippers and a raft and I found my way back. Why doesn’t the thingy at the bottom take you to the next thread anymore?
I be confuzeled!!!
truly, wtf are they chanting?
Hey!
At least he can read…
gah, McCain trying to put the electorate asleep.
Ha – I saw him coming. Coffee’s ready!
lol, wb
Remember that phony pic of Kerry in the mess hall in Iraq eating by himself? I’d like to a real shot of this hall in “New Orleans”.
Bah hahahahahaha! I’m sorry, but McTeleprompter’s speech tonight in front of his family and their friends (a total of 50 maybe?) is absolutely hysterical!
Lie and deceive much, McTeleprompter?
There is a certain Tim Calhoun quality to this completely useless “event”.
John McCain
John McCain
smart! think i’ll go grab a cuppa *g
Sad display, that McSame man…..blah, blah, blah.
And McTeleprompter wants to send our kids to Iran to fight in another illegal war that protects Israel…a country with 150 nukes (per Jimmy Carter).
oooh, we just hit the “delicious irony” portion of the speech. “We need a president who doesn’t pander to special interests” (or something real close to that).
Phil Gramm, Mr. McCain?
All right, enough of this bullshit. Get him outa here.
John McCain is fine with companies like Enron stealing investor’s life savings, loves the idea of American’s drowning in their attics, and thinks George Bush is just swell.
The Lake is growing all the time with new tributaries that sometimes cross each other.
But it is fairly easy to find your way back usually.
Sad, sad, sad, embarrassingly so. Cringeworthy watching.
Hey, Raven, gave you a shoutout this morning. Were you in Alb for A Co, 1st Bn, 7th Marine Reg reunion?
Hiya, Cassie.
Phony smile; nonsense talk; anyone who falls for this is lame. McSame and the Lames.
My mom just called me and told me my Grandma just passed away…! 8-(
And tabbed-browsing is very helpful.
I guess it’s
Go John Mc Cain
Please don’t conjure up false hopes.
He is Walking Irony. When he was in front of AIPAC shaking his fingers at the enemies he said the enemy talks in front of a frenzied crowd to rally them to another war….which is exactly what McCain was doing in front of AIPAC. Even McTeleprompter cringed when he made the remark!
clap? boo? audience sooo confused.
It isn’t gonna be pretty watching McCain’s decrepitude as the General heats up.
KO calls is, AMF Hillary.
Obama called the nominee msnbc
All right, enough of this bullshit. Get him outa here.
The longer he’s up there, the more pissed off 80% of the country is getting.
Brilliant tactic.
I’m so sorry CTuttle. Sad news.
(((C)))
heh. We inturrupt this boring creepy old guy to show the DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank God or whatever goodness there is. Barak Obama called the ‘presumptive nominee’ by KO. About damned time…..and nice to have that old guy McBlame quiet for a moment!
MSNBC calls the race for Obama
My most sincere condolences.
Sorry bro.
PRESUMPTIVE!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Woohoo! Obama is the presumptive nominee! Let me guess, Hillary will call him and say, “I’m packing my bags now to be your VP!”.
I hope he hangs up on her.
(((tuttle)))
Go hug your wife. So sorry.
slightly OT, but for those who are following my daughter and my sister’s progress in the line waiting to hear Obama speak at St. Paul Civic Center, there’s an update:
Still blocks away, but the line is moving now, the doors have finally opened, and here’s their place in line at about 7:45 pm CDT. When i spoke to her on phone, background crowd noise was loud and enthusiastic.
((((CTUTTLE))))
So sorry.
Mahalo! For the kind thoughts… Wild as Obama crosses the threshold….
Jeez, didn’t “flip-flopper” used to be a term of approbation? McCain does the Flip-Flop so often that he should be called Flipper. Or maybe Flopper.
Maybe we should start a new dance: The Flip-Flop. Maybe Donita Sparks can write a new song to celebrate the McCain Flip-Flop.
Maybe a campaign poster showing a pair of Flip-Flops: the Right one marked for his Republican position, the Left one marked for his “Maverick” position. Let’s make the Flip-Flop McCain’s Symbol. The Right and Left can have a blank inside with room to write whatever polarity he’s currently flipping over.
Bob in HI
{{{{{CTuttle}}}}}
then we’re finally there yet!?
If there was ever a time for a new thread is should be now.
((((((CTuttle and family))))))) Sorry about your grandmother.
McCain’s speech — the Ambien of the evening. Coffee, anyone?
echo {{{{{CTuttle}}}}}
Memorable on so many levels. Peace.
Yet.
Really Sorry, Tut.
HISTORY!!!
and screw this crap.
And he will WIN.
Condolences, CTuttle. No matter the age, it’s still an important loss.
Aloha,
Bob in HI
MSNBC must have realized that McCain’s speech was doing him no good, especially with that awful, awful makeup running down his face.
Woo Hoo, tell her to represent for the FDL MN contingency. I was thinking about heading across the river but the traffic in downtown Minneapolis was already crappy at 5:30. It’s like there’s a major bridge out down there, or somethin…
MSNBC covers it
CNN covers it
and FOX does not. FOX are traitors.
So sorry for your loss…
McCain’s speech — the Ambien of the evening. Coffee, anyone?
Way ahead of ya.
Sorry Tuttle,
Lookin’ right now at a pic on my worktable of my 5 yr old grandson grinnin’ at the rope line and talkin’ to Obama back in April in GF. We’re doin’ this for you, me grand one.
Image in head: FRANKENSTEIN WHO SPEAKS WITH A TELEPROMPTER
Scary.
The GREATEST upset in the history of American politics.
Contratulations. DING.
Remind me not to watch McCain whilst eating dinner.
Where’s the Pepto?
I keep this up I’m gonna have a dozen tabs open. Makes my eyes do weird shit.
I don’t think that was makeup, I think he just has old guy skin. I’ll hold a lot of things against him, but the fact that he has a death mask for a face isn’t really his fault…unless he’s gotten that look from a lifetime of unseemly, Dorian Grey, activities…if that’s the case then that really bad tie has to be called out as well.
Guess it doesn’t do any good to express a concern about this.
yes we can
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY
I have to wonder if Harold Ford thought he would be the first African American on a major party ticket…
has anyone figured out who speaks first – Hillary or Obama?
Attack Obama
*toothy grin*
Attack Obama
*toothy grin*
Attack Obama
*toothy grin*
Attack Obama
*toothy grin*
He’s trying real hard to fight the “angry” meme.
Ya’ll are the bestest…! I truly appreciate all your kind condolences! She will be cremated and my mom will have a ceremony here in the near future… Mahalo again! *g*
McChange
What is Harold talking about? Best McCain speech? It’s crazy.
Harold Ford must have hit his head on the lamp post before joining KO tonight. Wow. McTeleprompter’s speech was his best ever? Bah hahahahahaha! I guess the AIPAC whores stick together through thick and thin. Huh.
It ain’t those tabs, man! You were warned about this kind of thing when you were a youngster!
I am sorry CT.
OT, but something I’ve wondered about. Y’all had put up a new post and 70+ comments and some of us were still over at Cliff’s blog, unaware. What happened to the “new post” notification? Or do we just keep checking?
Ford calling McCain speech powerful? lol!
He had lots of voice coaching for tonite, knowing many Americans would tune in for the result on the Democratic side. I don’t think the coaching will stick, but McCain’s voice had a noticeably different quality.
I’m sorry CT. Bummer. Grammas are the best.
Harold Ford thought McCain’s speech was the “best he’s given so far”. “A powerful speech”.
Maybe I need Surround-Sound or something.
Or maybe Harold Ford is an idiot.
It’s the capsules
harold ford dumcb bastard and teh JEALOUS
Harold Ford is a nut.
He’s blathering on and on about how ‘powerful’ McCain’s snoozefest of a speech was.
Fox didn’t say that Obama won?
That’s why I kept getting lost! Thanks for the goggles.
Cliff’s upstairs saying that all of the MSM agree.
Obama is the Democratic Nominee.
Harold Ford is giving some good stuff on how to look at McSame. I hope we are all gonna stay on top of this. Timmeh just referred to a ‘young, 46 year old’ (wow, I wish I’d been referred to as young at that age — reminds me of repub philanderers who tried to pass off their philandering as a fault of their ‘youth’) Get over it, guys. But let’s all stay alert and vigilant and stand up for truth. Courage.
Knowing Hillary, she’ll want to have the last word and I bet she had Karl Rove today draw up two speeches in case she’s after Barack tonight. It will be interesting when she goes and what she says.
Either that, or he was medicated…
I’m sorry for your loss, CT.
It has been tough keeping up with everything today.
I think he needs a new coach.
Then again, maybe it’s not the teacher…
LET ME JUST SAY…if chimpy could be prezledent for 8 years my tortie Jolie could do it with her eyes closed
I’ve got nose clips if you need them… I just HATE getting water up my nose!
Yes, McCain did young tonight……..a young sloth maybe.
The new post thingy seems to still be broken, if you do a refresh, the new post is tagged at the top and bottom right of the screen.
Upstairs? That implies this thing is linear.
Harold Ford is pathetic too. My god. Who are these people?!?!?
I gotta admit, I’ve cut way back on my cable news during this primary season – and I’m now shocked by how ridiculous all this conversation is. I guess I forgot.
Fox didn’t say that Obama won?
Has Fox acknowledged that there is a such a thing as the Democratic Party?
P.S. I’m becoming convinced that there must be a several second lag in my cable feed – I keep seeing comments already posted about what I *just* saw.
sloths are cute…McGiggolo ,not so much
I’m so sorry.
You just blew my mind.
The “new post” notification has been totally buggy for several weeks now. I miss it.
Bob in HI
CT
So sorry about the loss of your grandmother. Grannys are so special – at least mine was and I’m sure yours was, too. Hugs for all your family.
it is a giant zig zag!
I only just started knowing my grandmother a year ago, and we spend the whole day together today.
I don’t blame Obama and Clinton for wanting to talk in person.
Little phones have big ears.
why does obama need to speak to aipac?
Maybe a young brown recluse spider? ;-)
I’ve decided to try keeping two windows open, one on the “main” page, and one to follow the chat on the post I’m following. That way I can check the main page and to a refresh and see if there’s a new post… It’s clumsy, but it may work.
OK, bye.
(((CT)))
(((CT’s mom)))
(((CT’s family)))
so sorry for the sad news, CT
Only when they can mis-tag a Republican in trouble as a Democrat
omg.
Andrea Mitchell doesnt want to admit shes being used.
She’s sooooooo intrepid!
He’s been pretty honest with them so far. I hope he doesn’t do what Johnny McTeleprompter did and fan the flames of war.
Enjoy her. There’s no one like them. Mine thought I was perfect :) and only Grannys do that
To try to bring a voice of reason into the howling void.
He won’t. Very doubtful.
seriously, hope there is a transcript.
So sorry to hear the news, take care, and God bless you.
David Gregory says they are wretched to be stepping on Obama’s night by talking about the “Unity Ticket”–but by gawd they’re gonna talk about it.
Cue Buchanan.
MSNBC are asses.
Three threads were running full tilt this afternoon and it was frantic trying to keep up with them.
I thought aipac only spoke and did not listen :)
Mercifully Mr. S. changes back to the Time Bandit. No, not McCain…the crab fishermen.
Many think that Obama would show weakness by caving to the naked coveting by the Clintonistas of the veep slot…a young Republican of my acquaintance who would vote for Obama would have pause if she were on the ticket. His wife as well.
Sorry CTutt!
Enjoy the time together, Cass! They are priceless! Mine was always a source of inspiration, and, she never minced her words! A true Lady that raised her kin to be strong independent thinkers! 8-)
This grandma wasn’t ever my dad’s mother. She married my grandpa when I was little.
But they’re nearly the best asses on the big boob tube. At least they’ve got Rachel.
I was watching CSPAN2 earlier with Bernie Sanders talking frankly on global warming issues…that was a weird reality…then you flop over to this horrorshow and watch the clowns…wyrd. Usually the clowns are on teh Senate floor.
So very sorry C.
I get that!
That flip takes some adjustment.
Mcauliffe at the podium.
You should still savor the relationship, Missie! ;-)
condolences to CTuttle and family {{{ CT }}}
Pop Princess Update: She and my sister are now inside the St. Paul Civic Center, the place is packed! They are looking for a place to sit and will post more pix when they are seated. They were able to see outside thru different windows, and they cannot see any end to the line of people waiting to get in. My daughter was shrieking with excitement about it being “totally a historic moment!” *ndfg massages sore eardrum*
They gotta concede and endorse before any discussions are possible. Any discussions of any kind.
I wonder if it will be as packed when they hold the Repug convention…? I’m sure the MSM will cover it…! ;-)
Lovin’ the reports…a friend from the Cities was going to try to get in tonight also, her second event if she gets in.
I agree. First off, I could not trust her as his VP. She would undermine him every chance he got. Second of all, I could not trust her to not hurt him in some way. She’s a power hungry elitist.
Oh wow. She’s wearing blue tonight. What is that like….the 2nd time this campaign season? LOL
She looks great.
get to see the reaction of the media blackout crowd.
Whoa! What have you got against Frankenstein?
It certainly doesn’t sound like a concession speech to me… How many times can she reiterate the ’stronger candidate’ and the ‘received the most popular votes in history’ memes…? Hmmm…?
I’m quite unfond of it myself.
Come on, Evita, spit it out!
Another Pop Princess Update:
They’re inside and have seats! My daughter is very excited.
Trust her not.
My little blind tortie Min could do it snoozing in the evening sunbeams.
yessir.
My gramma used to send me 5 bucks for my birthday well into her 80’s.
And don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.
Wow, what a crowd!
After these two demonstrations of total fantasy, a dose of hopeful reality is most needed.
and where will that come from, lol.
Yo GW, how’s the new digs? You getting settled in yet?
Obama should not even contact her. She can beg for a sitdown for weeks and then be granted one.
St. Paul.
The Great Orange Satan is not pleased.
Has anyone else noticed that Hillary’s happy face has grown somewhat surreal over the past 3 weeks? or am I projecting? Its like she’s going through the motions, putting on a brave happy face, campaigning like crazy, but knowing that the game is over, and she lost.
I remember the feeling. Its like the brave front I put on several decades ago after I had just been dumped by the lady of my affections. Who, me? Down in the dumps? Depressed? No way! Heh.
Bob in HI
Bob
I thought she looked remarkably like