There’s still a debate about Easter Island. Aside from the fact, it has as much to do with Passover as Easter; which is nothing other than the time yet another European claimed to have "discovered" it.
The island is famous for its statuary reflecting gigantic, rather emotionless, heads. But the causes of it’s being barren except for these statues is the real debate. The current en vogue theory is that the past civilization got on such a kick building the statues that they stripped the island of its forestry (used to move the statues) and had to abandon the island having completely destroyed its ecosystem.
If that was the case, then we haven’t learned much have we? For example, who could currently propose this and get a bump politically?
For all the griping about spiking gas prices, there’s no clamor for the return of the little-lamented 55 mph speed limit of the ’70s and ’80s — though most agree it reduces consumption and saves money.
"It’s not that people haven’t thought of it — just no one is even close to discussing implementing it," said Therese Langer, speaking for the American Council for an Energy Efficient Economy. "It’s not high on anyone’s list."
The U.S. Department of Energy estimates that the cost of driving rises faster above 60 mph — adding nearly 20 cents per gallon for each additional 5 mph. The Alliance to Save Energy, in Washington, estimates that restricting speeds to 55 mph could reduce the use of oil imported from the Persian Gulf by up to 20 percent a day.
Even so, "there doesn’t appear to be any eagerness on Capitol Hill to revisit the issue," said Ronnie Kweller of the alliance.
No, indeed. Paul Hesse, a spokesman for the U.S. Energy Information Administration, said his agency willingly would analyze the value of a 55 mph speed limit if asked by a congressman. None has asked.
But then again, are we even capable of thinking of saving ourselves? There isn’t exactly a demand for mass transit — no we have to spend that money on Iraq, the land of perpetual, never defined, declarations of victory – ask desperate war whore Fred Hiatt. And when we started building more efficient cars, people decided the best way to use the improved technology was by demanding we not build them:
Congress pressed automakers to increase fuel efficiency, and the average mileage nearly doubled, to 27.5 miles a gallon by 1987. Automakers also began to experiment with hybrids.
Even so, Americans fell in love with sport utility vehicles and big trucks — and fuel efficiency took a back seat again.
Howard Dickinson, a spokesman for Kansas Highway Patrol Troop A in Olathe, Kan., outside Kansas City, said troopers have not seen a whit of change in how fast people drive — nor in the number of tickets handed out.
"There’s no slow up there," Dickinson said, laughing.
"When cars started getting better gas mileage, we just built bigger cars," he said, adding, "People are still in a hurry — but the only reason they’d slow down again is if we lowered the speed limit again."
But if the speed limit was required to be lowered to 55 mph as it was in 1973 (by Nixon, not Carter as often claimed) we would hear howls of indignation similar to the NRA hearing about gun registration from all manner of people.
We’re just that foolish a people.
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Howard Dickinson, a spokesman for Kansas Highway Patrol Troop
“There’s no slow up there,” Dickinson said, laughing.
Sure if your driving a Prius!
We’re just that foolish a people.
We have achieved power which in small doses is great but quiting can be a bitch. Paradoxically those with the most power and wealth to buy SUVs and Humvees are the ones most hooked on power/gas.
They are like a Smoker’s Brain sure they know every dollar of gas is an other Dollar for Ossama. They know they can drive something else Volvo makes much safer cars than the big SUVs with better milage.
But like a Smoker’s Brain over rules the pain of lungs gasping for the self destructive pleasure of now.
Rich oil interests like Bush and the car makers over look the danger of Terrorism they over look the danger of high gas prices to the economy why because they are not effected.
They think that there lungs will always be there for them. Its a matter of personal discipline and every Empire’s ruling class before us has filed to control their appetite once they were sure they could never be replaced from within.
Most ruling classes get to be ruling classes conquering and by working hard, by being organized and disciplined.
But in a few generations wealth corrupts.
Howard Dickinson, a spokesman for Kansas Highway Patrol Troop A in Olathe, Kan., outside Kansas City, said troopers have not seen a whit of change in how fast people drive — nor in the number of tickets handed out.
Howard on the other hand is a servant he excuses the rich even though higher fuel costs by state vehicles directly affect state budgets like the Highway patrol.
No man can rule if he can’t see who butters his bread. Putting the wealthy and their desires above his own does make him a good servant.
People still live on Easter Island. The moai-building culture did collapse, but the remaining people didn’t abandon the island.
not with you on this one attaturk
when the speed limit was lowered to 55 there was no such thing as fifth gear or overdrive, there was no such thing as a low drag coefficient and most cars got exponentially better gas mileage going 55 and most cars got best mileage at 45
not so today
my car gets best gas mileage at 62 not 55 or 45 and even back then, truckers with overdrive got worse gas mileage at the lower speed
at 55 my engine labors in 5th gear and I have to go to 4th, I get about 32 mpg at 55 and 39 mpg at 62
even if I allowed my engine to labor in 5th gear at 55, it still gets worse gas mileage then at 62, so it ruins the drive train AND gets worse gas mileage
further, in todays cars most display instant and average gas mileage and if a person wanted to save gas they would go the speed that saved gas on their own
I know this to be a fact because most of my friends and family when on a drive experimented with best gas mileage speed
as far as I’m concerned, it’s a ridiculous position to take
sorry, not with you on all this time
I’d be pretty friggin pissed off if democrats lowered the speed limit as if we we are all irresponsible and need to be told what the best gas mileage speed would be
if you want to drive middle of the road voters back to the republican party, lowering the speed limit is just the way to do it
I am with perris on this one. I guess the real point is that we could be producing vehicles that did 60+ mpg and yet the automobile manufacturers, in cahoots with the oil barons no doubt, continue to make vehicles that do less than half that. In addition we should be upgrading the railway system and other methods of public transportation and subsidizing rail passenger service until such time as the number of passengers riding would reduce the need for subsidy. Then, and only if there is not a substantial reduction in automobile travel should, the foolishness of 55 mph be reintroduced.
The Feds offer fuel economy tips.
Sensibly, they suggest,
So perhaps 55 isn’t the right number, but pretty clearly the 75 limit we see on some routes is significantly suboptimal. If it’s really possible to reduce fuel consumption by 20% overall by revisiting speed limits, this ought to be done. I’m not holding my breath however. Attaturk is correct. We are a foolish people.
I had been getting 22 MPG with my Ford Ranger pickup (not a large pickup by any stretch) by driving 60 MPH on back highways and 65+ on I-255. Recently I imposed a 55 MPH speed limit on back roads and 60 MPH on I-255, and saw my MPG go from 22 to 25.7 MPG.
It helps that I live in the east metro area of St. Louis, which is relatively uncrowded, and that midwesterners aren’t the kind of speed demons they are in, say, Georgia. If I tried driving 60 on the major highways in Atlanta I would get killed!
Maybe a better way to go about it for now is to keep the speed limits where they are but emphasize that mileage will go up by driving slower. With $4/gallon gas (and rising) I really think many people will listen. They are, at least, getting the hint that big pickups/SUVs are a bad idea right now, and buying smaller cars.
I get 26+ mpg on my 1995 Ford Ranger (I have to know that as my gas gauge is kaput) and I just use it to go to the dump, supermarket and gardening chores. I have done about 8k miles in 3+ years I have had it and I was just the other day offered TWICE what I had payed for it.
I agree with perris in that fuel efficiency metering and display in the newer cars will help too. When Mrs. Bilbo got her new Prius, I found myself paying pretty close attention to the fuel economy gauges and adjusting my driving habits to optimize gas mileage. Of course, not everyone is going to do this, but enough may to make a difference. And anecdotally, while driving on the Interstates around here (a practice I try to make as rare as possible), it does seem to me that overall speeds are down.
Good morning, pups. It’s Monday, which means it’s Kristol, along with Cohen and Krugman. That fracking hypocrite Billy “I’m a yellow elephant” Kristol typed a piece of shite called “What Obama Left Out,” and whines that Barack Obama’s speech at Wesleyan University about public service tellingly failed to mention the military as an admirable form of service. What branch of service were you in, dipstick? Mr. Cohen says “The World Is Upside Down,” and that it’s time to invert our thinking, to see the developed world as depending on the developing world, rather than the other way around. Mr. Krugman asks us if it’s “A Return of That 70’s Show,” and says there’s no sign this time around of the wage-price spiral that, in the 1970s, turned a temporary shock from higher oil prices into a persistently high rate of inflation.
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
The coffee, tea and hot chocolate are ready, and the biscuits are out of the oven. Yesterday’s experimental raised waffles were a great success, crispy on the outside and tender on the inside. That recipe is a keeper. Have a great day.
everyone I know who has fuel monitoring on the car knows what the best speed is for gas mileage of their car
a national average lowering the speed limit is going to cost truckers and drivers of some cars like mine some gas mileage AND it’s going to drive swing voters from our candidate, and yes, people will vote against us because of this issue alone
as far as I am concerned this is one issue the democrats need to stay away from
I think we need to treat the voters like adults, post for them what best fuel efficiency is as an average, ask them to check for themselves without exceeding the speed limit and bing, we have an adult based platform rather then a child based platform
I predicted this spiral a long long time ago, right when the president stopped reporting the m3 index
the 70’s inflation was due to the war and printing paper to pay bills as is today’s inflation
end the war and the spiral will not get out of hand, continue the war and the spiral bets worse exponentially
Later for this shit. I’m moving to the greater Highbury-Hartfield area. I’d prefer to talk with Emma Woodhouse than Jenna Bush and I’d rather walk, anyway.
750 billion dollars for the warring budget does all the damage. This country spends more that the rest of the world combined to create wars. Cut the 750 billion by 80% and there would still be more than enough to fund a defense department more than adequately.
It shouldn’t be a partisan issue at all. Unfortunately that doesn’t mean it won’t be made into one, so I understand what you’re saying. And I’m certainly not suggesting that this be made into a progressive issue during this campaign cycle. But, I also have to observe that it only makes sense to treat voters like rational human beings if they act like rational human beings.
but lowering the speed limit to the nixon era when cars were less aero dynamic and had no overdrive is to me counter productive
I think I would simply mandate all cars made have the display to show instant and average gas mileage and I bet gas consumption goes down automatically
as I said, my car gets best mileage at 62 not 55 and there are plenty of cars like mine
truckers are already struggling with their bills, they get btter mileage at higher speeds as well AND they wouldn’t get as much work done with the lower speed limit
this 55 speed limit thing is to me a counter productive position
I’m not promoting 55 as I’ve already stated. See number nine, which reflects my position.
OT. AP reports Sen. Edward Kennedy undergoing brain surgery today at Duke University Medical Center.
Well, we can reduce our use of gasoline and other oil products and we should. Shame on us.
Good morning Attaturk and everybody
btw very glad to hear about the waffle success, Marion.
Here’s what’s on Washington Journal
7:30-8:00 GERRY BELL
National Weather Service
Lead Seasonal Hurricane Forecaster http://www.weather.gov
Topic: The hurricane season, which started yesterday, and how the government forecasts hurricanes. (FYI, The National Weather Service is part of NOAA, the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration.)
8:00 Roll Call hit (Goldman)
8:00-8:30 ARIF LALANI (uh-REEF luh-LAH-knee) (male)
Canadian Ambassador to Afghanistan
http://www.canada-afghanistan.gc.ca
Topic: Guest will discuss Canada’s military and diplomatic efforts in bring stability to Afghanistan.
8:30-9:30 RICHARD CLARKE
Author, “Your Government Failed You”
RICHARD CLARKE
Former Counterterrorism Coordinator
National Security Council, 1998-2003
Link to Book: http://www.harpercollins.com/books/97…..index.aspx
Topic: In his book, “Your Government Failed You: Breaking the Cycle of National Security Disasters,” our guest discusses among other topics, the current failing in Iraq to our government’s failure to address the growing risk of energy shortages and cyberspace threats.
9:30-10:00 Newspaper Articles/Phones
Good thoughts and good wishes to Mr Ted. Damn, we cannot lose him from the Senate he has, forever it seems, been the voice for the downtrodden and abused.
When I get home, or tomorrow morning, I’ll let y’all know the recipe. The best part of the experiment is still to continue — reportedly the batter keeps for a day or two in the fridge. Mr. Marion in Savannah is planning on testing that later this morning. Report to follow…
I have my fork ready and the maple syrup warming……
Yesterday we had them with some fresh local strawberries (from Metter, GA). I cut them up and added just enough sugar to let them release some of their juice. YUMMY!!!
Totally OT for those who do not know about The Great Turtle Race 2008 is about to begin. This is great fun, most especially young folks (Peanut that means you) and those that act like young folks!!!
My strawberries will be ready in a day or two…….now if only I can get to them before the darn birds……
Not those turtles, but… I’ve seen 4 turtles on my property this spring, having seen none for over a decade.
Last year Stephen Colbert sponsored a turtle, Stephanie, that, if I remember correctly should have come in second but close to the finish line she got distracted. That cost me a dinner.
Was Stephanie painted red, white & blue?
Morning all :)
This is from 1934.. Amazingly relevant considering the economic ‘mess’ today…
“Some people who think that the Federal Reserve Banks United States Government institutions. They are private monopolies which prey upon the people of these United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lender. In that dark crew of financial pirates there are those who would cut a man’s throat to get a dollar out of his pocket; there are those who send money into states to buy votes to control our legislatures; there are those who maintain International propaganda for the purpose of deceiving us into granting of new concessions which will permit them to cover up their past misdeeds and set again in motion their gigantic train of crime.”
http://www.uhuh.com/worthy/mcfad.htm
I believe she was in a Yves St Laurent shell
Scarecrow’s up: McCain Has Bought Bush’s “Return on Success” Propaganda
this is a more disturbing story then most realize
greenspan eliminated the mandates of documentation and they answer to nobody
they loan foreign government money without approval of congress among other activities
we need to decertify the fed and as far as I am concerned we need to consider allowing states to issue their own currency which will pretty much eliminate the national debt immediately
now I now there are repurcussions and I am not saying that is an actual course of action but I am saying we need to either federalize the fed or take some other action such as allowing states to issue their own currency but not necessarily that particular course of action
the fed must be reigned in, they must keep records, their assets must not be held by people they must be held by THE people
CATA (Capital Area Transportation Authority) had a record 10 million riders in 2006, and another record in April even with increased fares. My fellow students and I, who are driving all over the state for our “externships” talk about “what if we had a nice train system.” I’m wondering where the politicians are in this. Oh yeah, it’s Michigan.
CATA is the bus system here.
I don’t think it’s the drivers doing 75 mph that are the problem, it’s the drivers doing 5 and 10 mph every rush hour. We need to improve our infrastructure to deal with this, and not start tilting at windmills by fiddling around with speed limits.
It comes down to a lack of forward thinking among most people. Watching them speed to work every morning, having no capacity to plan an earlier start so as night to endanger themselves and others, is a reliable indicator of this fact. Thinking about budgets is apparently a rare occurrence among Americans. Their ability to think globally about mid- to long-range consequences of their actions is completely out of the question.
For some reason, I remember the implementation of the federal speed limit taking place during the Carter administration. It’s interesting that he’s blamed for creation of the law and that Clinton is blamed for eliminating the final vestiges of it. Neither of these assertions is true, apparently.
“my car gets best gas mileage at 62 not 55 or 45 and even back then, truckers with overdrive got worse gas mileage at the lower speed”
Please tell me what car gets better mileage at 62 than 45 mph.
ps. Attaturk – “Moai” is a plural, proper noun
I have on thing to say.
Mass Transit
But someone told me recently that Americans will never give up their cars. I said then they will die a slow death.
it’s the solstice gxp, I just went to foxwoods and on the road averaged 39.4 mpg, if I went down to 55 that would have dropped precipitately
although my car has a 5 speed, I assume any car with a 6 speed transmission might get better mileage at higher speeds then 55 as well
Ah, so you have no actual data; just an assumption. Now I understand.
ps. I’ve looked and there is no car that gets better gas mileage at X rpm in it’s top gear than it gets at (the same) X rpm in any lower gear. As long as you hold engine-speed-related issues constant, slower is always better because (a) drag goes up with the square of speed and (b) post-tranny drive-train losses go up (linearly) with speed. The one exception is for cars with a true, old-fashioned, straight-through, 1:1 gear; these can get better mph in this gear than some others due to lower tranny-related losses. But there are almost no such manuals still being made. And the Solstice isn’t one of them. So your assumption will almost definitely trun out to be false.