You might have missed it, but last week's Saturday night post caused some serious pearl-clutching over in Greater Wingnuttia. See, what happened is that I said "fuck": scented handkerchiefs were raised to trembling nostrils, fainting couches were fainted upon, panties were knotted. This fellow took the trouble to count the "fucks" and came up with 13; chez moi I remarked that this proved he blogs with his socks off, a joke he didn't get, unsurprisingly. He also missed why it's funny to shriek about how awful someone is when they say "fuck" and then call them an "F-Tard." Perhaps it will come to him in time. (Credit where it's due; James Joyner was able to respond to the substance of the post thoughtfully, and even more so to my rejoinder.) My very favorite response to my potty mouth, though, came from this fellow in comments at Whiskey Fire, though, who said, and I quote:
I suspect that Christy Hardin Smith, Digby, and others toes are curling at this man’s crudity.
I was able to confirm in an email exchange with Christy that she is indeed pretty fucking toe-curlingly appalled, and that I should cut that shit right the fuck out, for the love of fuck. I was duly fucking abashed.
(More good shit below the fold!)
Conservative bloggers have speculated that my use of "fuck" indicates that I possess an impoverished vocabulary, a thesis that I reject as pretty fucking stupid and in fact rather cromulent. Actually, I curse online as a conscious choice. Back in the early days of blogs I used to go into comments sections and try to, you know, persuade conservatives that, like, the proposed invasion of Iraq was perhaps not such a great idea. And what happened was, after a colloquy that sometimes lasted literally weeks at a time, what resulted was my interlocutor politely informing me that we would "agree to disagree" and that he (almost always "he") had quite enjoyed "breaking a lance" with me and that he fully expected me to join hands with him and sing a solemn hymn to Comity and then we'd go light a candle upon the altar of Civilized Discourse.
And, privately, I was thinking to myself, this is fucking insane. A lot of people are going to die for no rational reason, and here we are acting like we're all hot fucking shit because we don't say "fuck."
And you know what I did next?
I started to say "fuck" quite a lot, and I began to tell the people who were deliberately fucking up my country and causing a lot of fucking pointless carnage that they were a bunch of fucking horrible sociopaths and that I fucking hated them.
And it's been clear fucking sailing ever since.
I don't know where anyone ever got the idea that the Internet should be a place for the reasonable exchange of ideas between people of differing political beliefs, but such an idea is in my experience misguided at best and at worst actively dangerous. "Civility" is not a virtue in itself, but a mechanism, a way of facilitating discourse: when someone is determined to say any fucking shit they want as a way of getting whatever they want and to loudly insist that they are in the right just because the other side is mean and vulgar when they point out, accurately, that they are little more than a vicious gang of crazy-assed lying motherfuckers... well, fuck civility. Truth is a higher virtue by several orders of magnitude.
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Fuck! I should have said…
Thers! Aloha!
I was about to tell everyone to fucking come upstairs, but Lurking beat me to it.
Fuckity fuck, fuck…
I fucking can’t believe you had that fucking problem with those fucking people who have to tell you what the fuck to say all the fucking time..what the fuck is up with that? Fuck!
Love it!!! Great fucking post, Thers.
Fuckin’ is my default adjective. I don’t know that it’s jersey thing. Not everybody there says fuck quite so much as me. I think it’s a perfectly fine word. anyone who doesn’t can go fuck themselves, right? My vocabulary is OK. The fuckin’ Jesuits saw to that.
You need to track down the clip from this week’s “Daily Show”. Something along the lines of “If Bush hadn’t fucked everything up, would we LIKE him?”
Fucking masterpiece.
It’s fucking bullshit, ya know?
Fuckin’ A!
Ah what a fuckin’ mole hill Thers!
45 fucks already. A new record?
Anyone else say “Fuck Me!!!” when they make a mistake?
Fuckin A, Thers - great post.
You trollop.
I grew up in Bayside, Queens. So I was startled when I learned that there even were such things as curse words, because there everyone always said “prithee” and “doth” and shit like that.
Fuckin’ right the fuck on mofo!
Pizza.
“fuck”? I tuned in for the “crap” .
Shit.
So just what kind of fuckin’ fuckery is this fuckin’ shit anyway?
Fucking fine post, Thers.
Finally logged back in as myself, hurrah for RBG and the rest of the exemplary backstage crew! Many thanks.
*in honor of being able to log in again, ndfg does her chicken imiation* Fuck, Fuck-fuck-fuck fawwwwkkkk!
Hey Rove… Fuck you!
No. I say ‘fuck me running’
LOL
I am far more of a wench than a trollop.
(Sniffs delicately into scented lace hankie)
I know excatly what you mean. i moved to FL a few years ago and have heard fewer fucks in three years than i’d hear in 3 months in NJ. No exaggeration. Maybe even 3 weeks. NJ & NYC are good fuck places.
Where the Fuck do you get off …
Pul…that’s Norwegian for fuck!!!
The fuckin dude abides…
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gU2ZgaQ_H-Y
Gracias to you & others being nice about this pile of shit.
I remember when being a wench was a compliment….OMG…
Watch yer fuckin language, there’s ladies present.
Dang, Thers err… F*cktard, Macranger just can’t grasp the uberleft, eh? Nor, Shrub for that matter…
where? who?
ROFL … ((((( NDFG )))))
(Sniffs delicately into scented lace hankie)
Hey - I want that back!
And that’s the last time I loan *you* anything.
well fuck.
You all need soe cannon fodder:From the Tacoma News Tribune
Don’t hold back! *g*
My 9 yr old son, eating an ice cream in the back seat, dropped it. He said, rather quietly, “Oh, fuck me.” Wonder where he learned that shit?
I like to think of myself as a tart.
Hey, fellow Virgo! I’ve a new ‘puter can you give me AK’s link again… Por Favor…! ;-)
Anybody remember Ball Four by Jim Bouton? The manager, Joe Schultz? “Ol’ Shitfuck”??
Well, often needs a wench to help unscrew something. Or vice-versa.
for shame you married woman!
Yeah, I wonder…
They do?
I have no shame, vixen!
Excellent fucking post, Thers. Sometimes you’ve just got to swear. It’s crude, but it gets the point across very well. A hell of a lot better than “civil discourse” does, especially when our young men and women are being forever damaged and destroyed every day.
I used to know him. Years ago.
Yah, referenced it in one of my earlier posts. “His favorite word was ’shitfuck.’ His second favorite word was ‘fuckshit.’”
yeah there are ladies fuckin present in the fuckin thread. Fucking behave your(fuckin)self
Hey! Just who the fuck are you callin’ ladies, fucker?!!!
Fuckin’FunnyDiva
707
Fucking right on! Fuck civility! Fuck comity! Fuck the GOP sideways with a syphilitic elephant’s dick! Fucking great post and a fucking improvement in our national discourse over everything ever said by any conservative, ever, combined.
Macranger is, well, challenged in several ways.
I laughed myself at the socks joke, so I *know* it was funny…
Hey, Republican Bitch Lady, I worry about what your fucking candidate is doing at 3 fuckin P.M. ’cause if gran’pa is takin’ a fuckin’ nap in the middle of every fuckin’ day, I think that’s pretty fuckin’ scary for the leader of the free fuckin’ world to be doin’ that.
An’ that’s what I think.
Oh right, laugh LS!
i just gotta say, what the effitty-F does Greater Wingnuttia expect from a foul-mouthed fem blog? “Oh Sugar,” “Drat,” or “Oopsie” don’t have quite the same healing power as a vigorously screamed FUCK!!! when ya slam your finger with a hammer while aiming at a nail. And the average wingnut is about as clueless as a box of nails.
ROLMFO
Fucking A
Because, heaven knows, the right is famous for their civil discourse.
Fuck a duck :)
I’m a tellin Mr Doodle!
My maternal grandfather was an Ozark hillbilly whose every third word was “sonofabitch” (an yes, for him, it really was all one word). Pretty fast and loose with the damns, hells, and shits, as well.
Sorry I missed that post. What a guy. Except for Zimmer and maybe a few others, they don’t make ‘em like that anymore.
What chew talkin’ about…
Who me???
Oh fuck, you 707′d! Watch out, you’ll lose your chair!
We used to call someone so prissy they wouldn’t say “fuck” if they had a mouthful….
…..and this was before I understood that “gay apparel” wasn’t a christmas song….
I self realize as a pastry….with extremely flaky crusts and marzipam filling.
Stop it!!! 707, 707, 707…
Get out of my chair….707…NO!!!
I always thought it was shit, not fuck.
He taught me everything I know.
His selection of sites atop his website spoke volumes; Drudge, Breitbart and Faux Spew…
{{{ PETRO! }}}
CTuttle here ya go … Teh Spook Shack
Barney?
That, and you owe me a fucking monitor.
How’s Dad ?
And I most especially do not approve of this “F-bomb” nonsense. the word is fuck. F. U. C. K. FUCK.
Fuck their civil discourse when it serves to conceal the massive barbarity of their actions. As someone much wiser than I once observed, “By their actions you shall know them.” When they start acting like civilized human beings, I will worry about my language.
AK, is that really you…? Not , you channeling through NDFG…? ;-)
Exactly. I can’t exactly swear at work, but i tend to fall back onto the british expletives out of habit. There’s only a few brit immigrants in my area, so it’s enough to get away with it without sounding too bad. But when i’m really pissed off? A well used ‘fuck it!’ works quite well.
I just fall back on ‘bloody hell!’ or ‘buggar and blast.’ among others. *grin*
This is F’in Cool!
From teh SF Chronicle
Oh, Fuck me….so fucking funny….
No! Fuck you!!!
Pronounced as two syllables, yes?
Steve Gilliard would be proud of this thread.
Here’s a Joe Schultz quote I like:
Pitcher John Gelnar during a Shultz mound visit: “Any particular way you want me to pitch him, Joe?”
Schultz: “Nah, fuck him. Give him some low smoke and we’ll go in and pound some Budweiser.”
I may re-read Ball Four.
Oh, ’tis a beautiful expression. Van Halen perhaps continued a mistaken notion that For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge was a medieval crime of some serious nature. The OED makes a etomological attribution to a old Germanic derivative of ficken, focken, fukka…etc. But even so, the hard ‘eff’ and the necessary pursing of the lips that it require…the gutteral ‘ewe’ and then ending with the crescendo of the brilliand ‘ck’ as hard and direct as a matchstick cathing fire…’tis a beautiful expression, indeed.
And to fuck, well, there’s really nothing in life better because there certainly is no more life without; but, I’m frequently drawn to the irony that the word for this most necessary and fabulous of life’s requirements should be used so forcefully as a derogative, pejoritive or insult. But the continuation of life as we know it can hardly be the negative aspect of the utterance; otherwise, we would find the same sort of joy in the expression, “Pollinate you!”
I have noticed that several comments have been posted excluding the word fuck. Where are the mods?
Hey, everyone! Hey, Thers!
Fuckin’ awesome antidote for all the fuck-i-licious folderol over the DNC RBC meeting.
Hey, NDFG, my housemate said some really weird things about the New Deal last night. Do you have any favorite reliable online historical sources I could use to bone up on it? Though I suspect it’s just a matter of “well, gramps and gramma used to say awful things about the ND, and I love ‘em, so it must be gospel truth…”
I still would like to further eddimicate myself about that period of history.
Thanks,
FunnyD
“Sod off” & “Flop off” sound so nice & polite … co- workers never catch on … *g*
FTFY!
What the fuck? I mean, really, people. WTF? Explicky?
Generally, though he could stretch it out to about twelve for emphasis.
Bouton is where I get my illustration for the idea that cursing is about social distinctions about who’s in and who’s out than anything else. “Motherfucker” was the “magic word” in baseball that would get you thrown out of the game.
That’s all curses are — magic words that can exclude or include you, depending on what game you’re playing.
Wingnuts can’t grasp this elementary principle, evidently.
LOL … I Fucking Love you … *g* … is jacqrat around ? *g*
Fuck that! Where?
sumbitch is how it’ pronounced… and I’m from Arkansas, so you know that’s right…
LOL.
They might be all worn out from moderating a few Hillary supportters vs. the world pissing contests in earlier posts.
Shut the Fuck up!
THAT tells a story. He’s heard you criticize yourself and knows that he’s going to make mistakes.
BEST Mommybrain!
Bone up.
That’s made me laugh. Hee hee.
Not a guffaw. Maybe a titter.
Hee, hee. Titter made me laugh, too.
summamufuckinbeeeeeeeitch
Hey, I don’t get paid to fucking moderate.
PoppaSpook is undergoing evaluation at St. Luke’s in San Antonio for a possible low grade infection and will most likely go to a nursing home for a month to get stablized under the care of a geriatric specialist and nutritionist. Fortunately Mercury Retrograde uncovered thru several mishaps that the medical advice we were receiving was less than optimal, and it looks like we’re all on the right track now. Thanks to all for well wishes, prayers, and good energy!
Go pollinate yourself.
thanks for filling us in
Fuck you, eh! Whanger! (=wanker in Australian)
FunnyFuckin’Diva
Freshly DUGG…
They must be so proud.
Again? Oh alright.
((((((da spook))))))
(((PoppaSpook)))
I’ve been sending it ever since but it’s you and Al who’ve been doing yeoman work for him … Dad is happy to know you care …
Busy fucking bee?
I hope they don’t try to flag this post as inaccurate. That would fucking suck balls.