Ah yes. I remember the GOP and conservertives expressing their outrage, indignation and disdain for Linda Tripp who wore a wire and goaded her close friend into coming clean about a blowjob.

Nuck Foonan.

-G

lol @ Peggy Neener.

they are just self destructing right before our eyes

(((Quaker girl)))

I never knew a hallucinating (Raygun/Elian/Dolphins), post-menopausal gasbag could be so tuff tuff tuff tuff tuff.

call the waaammmulance. (old tubes saying, quaint ain’t it)

Bob Dole:

“There are miserable creatures like you in every administration who don’t have the guts to speak up or quit if there are disagreements with the boss or colleagues,” Dole wrote. “No, your type soaks up the benefits of power, revels in the limelight for years, then quits, and spurred on by greed, cashes in with a scathing critique.”

“No doubt you will ‘clean up’ as the liberal anti-Bush press will promote your belated concerns with wild enthusiasm,” Dole added. “When the money starts rolling in you should donate it to a worthy cause, something like, ‘Biting The Hand That Fed Me.’ Another thought is to weasel your way back into the White House if a Democrat is elected. That would provide a good set up for a second book deal in a few years”

Peggy Noonan On McClellan: Americans Hate A Snitch

only a traitor would call someone who exposes treason “a snitch”

these are maggots who make the claim

” . . . and spurred on by greed, cashes in with a scathing critique.”

The Viagra Grandpop of the GOP has gone commie.

Could we build a home for people who just need to go away somewhere - like Noonan, Carville, Buchanan etc. They could talk to each other about how wonderful the 50s were.

“There are miserable creatures like you in every administration who don’t have the guts to speak up or quit if there are disagreements with the boss or colleagues,” Dole wrote. “No, your type soaks up the benefits of power, revels in the limelight for years, then quits, and spurred on by greed, cashes in with a scathing critique.”

and there are maggots like dole who actually thiks it is some kind of snitch who exposes depraved lies that brought america into a rediculous war

revealers of this brand are hardly “snitches”, they are watchdogs idiot

All the V*agra ads aside, Dole was for years the Republicans’ hatchetman in the Senate. OTOH who knows maybe those blue pills help him keep up his sagging powers for nasty two faced vitriol.

Doug Feith? Are you kidding? You do have to give it to Feith on one thing - he sticks to his guns, he believes the unbelievable and he’s not going to change.

No doubt you will ‘clean up’ as the liberal anti-Bush press

there is no “liberal press” and there is no “anti-bush” press

there are however pro american people who are anti ANYONE who lies us into war

this dole is PISSING ME OFF

thanks for the laugh on Nooner.
I was truly surprised that David Gergen was completely offended that someone in the president’s inner circle would “betray a trust.”
Reminds me so much of the Rove deputy who testified to the Judiciary Committee that she took an oath to defend the president…
someone corrected her that the oath was to the US Constitution.

Dole talking about selling out for the silver??

I guess he did those Viagra adds for foree.

What’s needed now?

How about Peggy Noonan just STFU?

Where did FDL go??!! Whose brilliant ”new wave” idea was this new format??!!

I really dig the “Why didn’t he say anything while he was Press Secretary”?

Because the GOP, especially the Bush-Cheney GOP, operates with a Corporate Ethos.

Shut your friggin mouth if you wanna keep your job.

That would be Sara Taylor who was immediately corrected by Senator Patrick Leahy that the oath was to the constitution.

Of course, I have no doubt that Sara Taylor thought she was taking an oath to the President and who knows? She very well may have taken a private oath to him.

I was truly surprised that David Gergen was completely offended that someone in the president’s inner circle would “betray a trust.”

IT IS BIZARRE anyone would call exposing he lies that brought America into this ridiculous war “betraying a trust”

HEY, IDIOT, HE WOULD BE BETRAYING THE TRUST OF THIS COUNTRY IF HE DID NOT SPEAK OUT

where the hell ARE these maggots priorities?

don’t answer that question it is rhetorical

So many old dolphin worshipers, so little clue.

Bob, go try to get a boner staring at your marshmallow faced wife and get out of our collective minds.

Crusty old prick.

-G

The format hasn’t changed. Try refreshing the page. I have been having similar problems with fdl pages appearing weirdly formatted.

Is this for real?

yeah really.

takes one to know one, doesn’t it?

Dole Calls McClellan “Miserable Creature”

great link twolf

Exactly wobbly! And I for one have been working on that and waiting for it for YEARS now. For all the times I watched us loose another battle, all the cave ins in Congress, for Simpleton McAwol’s huge “F!U!” to the entire nation on the day before Independence Day, 2007 (the commutation of Libby’s sentence, RUINED a whole July 4th BBQ over here!!!), all those times I thought NOTHING we are doing is working….. WE GET THIS NOW, and it is a beauty to behold! Huge pats on the backs of all of us who have made the phone calls, faxed and tracked and demanded answers, and yelled and screamed jumping up and down and shining spotlights!, I believe this is the result of all of those efforts. The fast crash and burn in MSM of the fascists who hijacked our nation, and the open bust now going on of MSM’s handling of this misAdministration, and the irresponsible complicity served in spades all the way around! FINALLY!
I personally am sleeping better at night now. And i DO have a ray of hope for the “great American experiment”.
so…..

This is OT, sorry, but will FDL be live blogging that meeting tomorrow? I’m a huge meeting hater from way back, but of course, care about THIS one. I understand it’ll be a media circus, and some are live blogging it. I’m just wondering if FDL will be there or keeping an eye on CSpan. Thanks.

talk about selling out!!

Dole is a flaccid dickhead.

you know, the progressives and democrats need to be INCENSED there are people that think talking about the depravity that brought us to war is “snitching” or “abandoning loyalty”

they need to challenge these people and their patriotism and SHUT THEIR PIE HOLE UP

Sounds like he needs to stick Viagra up his nose.

yep.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2.....0258.shtml

My great hope is that McClellan is being counseled by John Dean, who wandered out of the valley of Watergatery into the light.

i had raised that question (rather the possibility or not of a post regarding the ‘meeting’) but haven’t heard a peep.

that is the worse type of dickhead to be

It seemed that way last night on KO.

McClellan’s editor in the WaPo: ”He also dismissed suggestions that McClellan is merely hoping to cash in. Unlike some larger publishing houses, he said, PublicAffairs almost never pays more than a five-figure advance. ’No one has ever done a book for PublicAffairs for the money,’ he said.

So that dog won’t hunt.

WOW, the first comment is EXCELLANT;

They”ve seemed to forget the “Administration” is not supposed to be a “Secret Society”! This is supposed to be AMERICA THE FREE GOVERNED FOR AND BY THE PEOPLE! HELLO????

bingo

You know if you read the Nooner column, it is a bit more equivocal on Scotty than these excerpts, though she certainly ends by praising that famous intellect and truth teller—————-D Feith.

Separatly,
The scott book reminds us of the Libby PARDON, which has fallen off the pages of discourse. that needs to be put back front and center and all the investigations that should proceed from it, as well.
There can be no FORGIVING; Moving ON, after November. You cannot kill goopula unless you put a stake through its heart with investigations revealing all that was done and done illegally–from torture, to gitmo illegal imprisonment, to habeaus, to warrantless wiretaps, to teleco complicty, gto tehft of billions in iraq.

there has to be accountability. and there can be impeachment AFTER Bush leaves office if there are high crimes.

Yet that’s one of their favorite talking points.

I’m thinkin’ it’s the “poo fling” issue, maybe FDL will just stay out of it for that reason. bummer. I kind of wanted to watch it WITH someone, and i’m the only activist in my house. (except for the dogs).
:)

Oh, for crying out loud!

Concludes Dole: “You’re a hot ticket now but don’t you, deep down, feel like a total ingrate?”

No, Bob, I don’t. I feel like someone who has just been sheep-dipped in order to remove the odious stench of BushCo. Next up: exorcism.

they dont need a dog that can hunt to insinuate and perpetuate a lie.
that is what they DO!

She’s just covering her bases. You can tell what she really thinks about him, especially the way she ends, “Well, we should find out if what he’s saying is true so we need more books by neocon crazies like Doug Feith.”

Well they got Dole off the bench. Who is next Oliver North.

LOL! good un’!

i wonder that as well but that is ignoring the 800lb gorilla in the room. We will be discussing it O/T anyway so why not have a thread with some background as to what is supposed to go on tomorrow. But then again, maybe they are going to do it and we will just have to wait and see.

ding! I’m sure he’ll be making an appearance in 5,4, 3…

Wow.

I bet the Loyal Bushies have secret handshakes and shit.

how does somebody who is such an obvious moron get ANYONE to be “loyal”?

he would be the dweeb in my school and I didn’t even live in a tough neighborhood

Well said perris!

O/T McCain Campaign Manager’s Firm Worked for Ukranian Billionaire with Ties to Iran

Before Rick Davis began serving as John McCain’s campaign manager, his lobbying firm had a pretty cosmopolitan set of clients.

For example, Ukranian billionaire Rinat Akhmetov, who has several business links to Iran.

To be sure, there’s a good crowd of lobbyists in Washington who work for international firms with ties to Iran.

But Davis isn’t just any lobbyist. He’s a lobbyist-turn-presidential campaign manager who just a couple weeks ago was drawing up rules on how to build a wall between lobbyists and McCain’s political operatives. And McCain has been more hawkish than most of his colleagues about confronting Iran.

The gifts just keep coming.

Because his daddy’s rich and he’ll let you ride in his big airplane and hang out at his cowboy place if you’re good.

It’s a guilt by association thing but if the republicans judge by it, let them chew on this one

Where’s Guido?
Omerta, rich stuff Magic Dolphin lady.

Nooner is pissed cuz her boss got outed for betraying a CIA Agent.

Oh and like anyone gives a rip what Bob Dole thinks.

The characterization of McClellan as a snitch is all part of the standard Republican playbooks, which is to seize control of the narrative. Tell the story that you want to tell using the labels that you want to see stick. This technique can be used to build up a candidate like McCain. He’s a maverick and straightshooter. He has expertise in national security, etc. Or it can be used negatively as here. The Republicans do not want anyone telling even self serving truths about this Administration so they have come out in a pack to denounce McClellan. Even if the snitch label doesn’t stick immediately, it legitimizes the discussion “Is Scott McClellan a snitch?” And so keeps the association out there, McClellan, snitch.

how does somebody who is such an obvious moron get ANYONE to be “loyal”?

Giving Bush the Presidency: Sugar on a Turd.

maybe. hopefully. i could be wrong, but it’s kind of getting time for EVERYONE to declare one way or the other or at least be out about and acknowledge that gorilla!
guess we’ll see……
pax

A snitch? As in, giving away the game? That’s rich! Whistleblower, actually.

the man is clearly the destruction of the republican party, clearly the end of the “concervative movement” that had managed to get middle class americans voting against themeselves and their children

he is the downfall of the movement and their seat of power

I am surprised they are still “loyal” to a man so inept and so clearly a traitor not only to their country but the ruin to their brand.

it is a situation that defies logic

And most of the younger people voting have never heard of him. I wish I never had.

well I unfortunately won’t be around. i’m registering voters in honor of the ‘meeting’ We need as many dems votung in the fall as possible

Are you done with your phoning? And thanks for all you do.

He’s probably all ready getting SNITCH tshirts in the mail from untraceable addresses.

So might one conclude that they’ve been promised _____ for sticking with Boy Wonder?

Or might one conclude that they’re afraid of what will happen to them if they fail to stick with Boy Wonder?

There is an air of something immensely sinister about this adminstration, rooted in the foul den of Cheney. I swear that man believes he has absolutely nothing to lose and will go out with his blazing guns clutched in his cold, dead hands.

Right On wobbly! You are amazing! I just signed up with a friend who’s running for County Commissioner here, and he’s way green oriented, lives off the grid and raises the beef we eat in our house. I HEAR the best way to impact on the national scene is to get active locally, so I’m doing that. It’ll be the first campaign I’ve ever worked for, and the guy’s progressive, another exhippie, and educated and aware. Should be at least interesting. We’re up against a whole nest of long time rethug good ol’ boys down here. I for one, intend to have some fun!

Nooners is right about one thing — there does need to be more testimony.

Lots of it. Under oath.

Per Ms. Noonan,

[McClellan’s] book can be seen as a grenade lobbed over the wall. Thus the explosive response. He is a traitor, turncoat, betrayer, sellout. If he’d had any guts he would have spoken up when he was in power.

Indeed, all truth-tellers are traitors to Republicanism and are denounced as such by those who remain on the side of untruth. It was only McClellan’s departure from the House of Lies that allowed him to finally see the light and report the truth. Good on him.

I’m going to be there for the Obama campaign; got one of the tickets. We haven’t heard definitely whether we’ll have wireless access or not in the meeting room. (That could be the same reason there hasn’t been mention of whether FDL is covering it, but I don’t know.)

I suppose they have invested their entire reputation on the validity of this president’s adminstration and he is the “brung” they have to dance with

but he is their ruin and they just don’t know how to climb of that horse or even if they can

so I guess they feel trapped into defending him

though I think I can explain it, their defense of this twit is still bizarre

I regret that Scotty didn’t get out of the WH and tell the truth sooner but maybe if he had people would not have been ready to listen. Now they are and I think it probably comes at a good time - for us Dems.

nope, I’m still calling (montana and South Dakota) I would try PR but i speak portuguese and well spanish ain’t portuguese *g*

right on!!!! you’ll get hooked *g*

if scotty had gotten out on his own terms and unleashed this info at the time, I believe the president would not have withstood the call for impeachment

now I believe the only thing preventing the outcry is the feeling that it would not be completed till he was out of office anyway

Having major trubbles with server here.

Is the FDL site server going whacko for anyone else?

Most info is visible, but barely readable because of wild problems in editing???

are we just popular, or are we being attacked?

please answer, SOMEONE???

- Adie

Soctty was at the WASHPO earlier answering questions. One interesting nugget…He claims Rove in a general way apologized to him personally. Link

Ms. Noonan and Ms. Dowd must be roommates and have the same Rolodex of lost loves. Their columns seethe with projection. Criticize a ReichWing politician breaking the law, dissent from the neocon world view, and acid drips from their columns as if from a wounded Alien.

Man, what is wrong with the FDL interface. Yuk. Unviewable.

wow. where will you be blogging? I’d love to have someone there pounding out on the laptop while i’m here watching CSpan. Thank you MUCHO Redshift!

Snitching implies criminal activity, doesn’t it? Tattle-tale would be the innocent hi-jinks related term. It’s hard to write about this stuff without giving yourself away, eh Pegs?

Scottie: “It was not the grave and gathering danger that we “portrayed” it as.”

And W just sent all of those young men and women who volunteered to put their lives in his hands, into harms way. More than 4,000 of them…dead. More than a million civilians…dead….tens of thousands with devastating wounds…

Dead is forever.

Whoever has the ability to impeach and does not, is a traitor to the United States of America.

I was having the same problem earlier. Especially when I would move from one article to the next. I went back and typed in www.firedoglake.com in my address bar and reconnected to the site and it seems to be ok now. I have not tried navigating through different articles yet.

numbers shown, but no names, & formatting minimal for my puny brain.

- Adie

Yes. It is almost unbearable.

I’ve had problems with FDL and EW loading for about a day and a half here. When I finally GET THERE, everything’s fine and seems to working as usual. Sorry you are having problems!
I don’t know more than that adie.

It seems to come and go. Seems ok right now….I think…

Thanks! Will try. I’d like to think the Pups are getting that much attention, but yikes. Not fun.

Good Afternoon Blue Texan and Firedogs -

Hey Nooner ! something else we don’t much like . . .Fair Weather Fans

“Americans have always been somewhat romantic about the meaning of our country, and the beacon it can be for the world, and what the Founders did. But they like the president to be the cool-eyed realist, the tough customer who understands harsh realities.

With Mr. Bush it is the people who are forced to be cool-eyed and realistic. He’s the one who goes off on the toots. This is extremely irritating, and also unnatural. Actually it’s weird.”

whatever Lil Miss Last to Join, First to Leave

sometimes people need to be shocked into reality.
In a wierd way,the whole Bush affair has been benificial for America.It,s shown everybody just how fucked up things can get and how much we take for granted all the things that make this country so special.And how dangerous complacency is.Had it not been for the internet,the msm would have been able to shove their their marketed rhetoric down our throats relentlessly.The internet has enabled everyone to sort through the bullshit,interact,participate and try to make sense of things. Thank God for the internet.IT may very well have saved this country.

I’ll be here if I can get a connection. I just hope the committee will be able to hear over the clatter of laptop keyboards. *g*

Yup, everything looks weird, but, I’m still able to read.
(This is a test to see if my comment loads.)
Hang in there everyone. They’ll figure it out. :)
Oh, and if people could stay away from the over the hormones type comments, I for one, would appreciate it. :)
It might make me bitchy sometimes, but it hasn’t made me stupid. Yet.

OT: Breaking http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....971/523811

In today’s conference call, the Clinton campaign conceded any rules-based or fairness-based argument for the full seating of the Florida and Michigan delegations. The Clinton campaign declared that, unlike Iowa, NH and South Carolina, Florida and Michigan did indeed break the DNC rules and without justification. The Clinton campaign expressly disagreed with the Michigan Democratic Party’s contention that the DNC had selectively enforced its rules by allowing New Hampshire and South Carolina to break the sanctioned primary schedule, that Florida was not entitled to a safe harbor or waiver, and that the DNC had acted properly and within the rules when it stripped Florida and Michigan of its delegates.

Irish Jim and everyone else. Thanks for attempts to help.

Just no go today. Dang!

Try a hard refresh (shift-F5, if you’re on a PC.) Sounds like the intermittent connection caused the CSS formatting to get lost.

I haven’t had any problems today, so it may be clogged toobz between you guys and FDL, rather than FDL itself. (Watch, it’ll probably happen to me right after I post this. *g*)

I also firmly believe that. I have often wondered why it was allowed to continue. Perhaps Bushco didn’t understand the threat until it was too late. Thank God for Hubris.

In a wierd way,the whole Bush affair has been benificial for America.

it will be a benefit if we can ever undo the damage, both demestic and international

not a likely scenario, not to mention lives that cannot be regained.

however there might be light at the end of this tunnel and that light might be turned on because of bush

Hey demi!

”(This is a test to see if my comment loads.)
Hang in there everyone. They’ll figure it out. :)
Oh, and if people could stay away from the over the hormones type comments, I for one, would appreciate it. :)
It might make me bitchy sometimes, but it hasn’t made me stupid. Yet.”

You speak with great wisdom, dear.

They may smite us, but we will NOT give up or give in. heh.

Stubborn’s good, but don’t bother trying the auto-quote command, sigh.

may also help to empty the browser’s cache.

o/t

crikey firedogs - turning in to one heckuva news dump -

AQ Khan recants his confession

and Gitmo presiding judge dismissed - no explanation

TPM

was away from toobz for a few hours so forgive me if previously posted

It’s all messed up for me right now, but at least I can type in the comment box.

From Raw:

Lawyers working for the House Judiciary Committee are meeting with former White House spokesman Scott McClellan regarding the explosive revelations contained in his new tell-all memoir…

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/....._0530.html

hey. mebbe this is a test-run for olympics coverage. cool. i need to get the garden in anyway…

yeah — i’ve also been having lots of trouble over the last cople days. 50/50 if a comment will actually get posted or not. And of course, lots of trouble loading pages.

OT
SF Chronicle says Hillary now behind Obama in the California polls and that she is losing women. Interesting, huh?

I agree.It’s been a horribly painful lesson for me

LOUD AND CLEAR!

OVER AND OUT!

hey. anyone still have the Navajo-inspired code available?

Hey Adie!
Wanted to let you know that I finally got to watch my son’s Award-Winning IMovie. I’m having trouble setting up a YouTube account, but as soon as I can, I’ll be posting his Biodiesal Movie here. I’m so impressed that I’m going to find the Windows version of IMovie software so that he can spend the summer making more!

I was thinking that would happen. If the cali primary election was held today Obama would win.

that was meant for Raw.

reply hiccups also, as well as i.d.

I said last night that I thought she was going to start losing people who had supported her because of this continued mess she is creating. Seems it’s happening and I believe the Supers will blossom next week for Obama.

Lordy. I hope so. I am so tired of it.

Dang this is wild. Just got yer facebk profile easy as pie, marymcc, but nothin’ else is as twas, & i don’t belong to fb.
hmmmm

mebbe we’re in the process of burning a hole in tellycom’s BIGBRAIN in his basement hidey-hole.

sing hearty, me-lads & lassies.