FITZ!!!

Tonight for the rest of the night I want to feel absolute happiness.

Digg!

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Eureka!

What happened earlier today? THe board was here, sorta, but AFU.

I LOVE that McClellan is spilling his guts.

‘allo ES!

ES!!!

Jus Cogens

Evening all.. pick a new galaxy, any galaxy you want!

I love it when you talk justice..)

((((MaryMcC))))
Hard week?
FunnyD

Does anyone remember the early days of MTV? The really cheesy vids and then the really cool highly produced ones? the difference in quality was staggering. and concepts, too.

Aloha, ES!

I save my best for you, dood!

FunnyD

I finally watched the interview/ rerun of KO and Scottie tonight. I hope he doesn’t soften the brutal truth for to many folks who still need a loud wake up call.

CT, Where have you been?

No. Pretty good week. Great beginning with youngest daughter’s birthday. 31. I am the mom of a 31 year old person. The rest of the week has been rewarding with the SMc book drama. Need to find work though. This has become so normal that it doesn’t bother me too much anymore.

I just saw Scottie on the Newshour and he didn’t seem to be backing off one iota… But, he was shocked, his words, shocked at the vitriol leveled at him by the WH…! ;-)

I hate that wingnuts are using the “thirty pieces of silver” phrase, in concert, to describe him like Judas as though W is the sweet baby jesus or something. Wingers really need to get over themselves. Someone should do a bit where all the wingnuts look different but talk in unison. “puzzled” “not the Scott we know” “thirty pieces of silver”. I swear they are pod people.

The internal power supply blew out and I was left jonesing…!

It’s really interesting to watch his facial expressions. He looks like a completely different person when he’s being honest.

They are the followers of hollow leaders. No imagination. They repeat exactly what they are told. Problem is the more they repeat something the more sheeple believe it. It has to be exact.

He doesn’t sweat.

And it is all well planned out and rehearsed. It turns out the White House got an advance copy of the book over a month ago. They had plenty of time to get over being “puzzled.” They did not even request any changes to the book, which they had an opportunity to do. What we are seeing now is all theater.

“Not the Scott we knew…”

If Scott McClellan had a hair on his balls, he would have said what he had to say while he was still in the White House.

Okay, smackdown time! Gimme an equally pithy one-line comeback. Game on.

Right. And get sent to Gitmo?

Can’t touch that. /s

a little fun song?

John Hiatt, Sonny Landreth:

Tennesee Plates

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx0qtJ7ZQH0

I’ve been wondering about this Beam Me Shut Scottie Dog and Pony Show. Seems fishy to me. Trying to connect some dots and watching how all the key players are playing it.

Not sure what to think yet…

The sheer irony is they can’t refute the facts… That’s why they’re left with pondering his betrayal and/or quibbling over minor details…! ;-)

Is Scott involved in the theatre or did the Bushies misjudge the big effect this book would have? You know, sort of like the 2006 Rove type math election?

Emptywheels post

George Bush Authorized the Leak of Valerie Wilson’s Identity

is up to 2183 diggs! wooohooo!

Just goes to show ya that if ya give ‘em enough time to plan ahead – well, they still got nothin’.

Golly! did someone really say that? was that in Bob Dole’s “open letter”?

Words to that effect by Bob Dole, Peggy Noonan and many, many others.

I keep reminding myself three points.. He lied with them all along (to long). He’s a PR man. He wrote that book a long time ago.. shortly after he left.

People advised Nicole Simpson to leave OJ since things were so bad. She did. Look what happened.

Eureka, do you still want a disc? Let me know, it’s been out a couple weeks…

2185 now, WTF is with that warning saying some readers question it’s accuracy…?

My first husband was from Knoxville, Tennessee. He and his brother used to drive their Ford Falcon (yellow) from K-town to New Orleans in very little time. I cannot figure out why they didn’t die doing it.

was that in Bob Dole’s “open letter”

heh. Bob “V*agra” Dole talking about having some balls?

Somebody tell me it’s true please…

Good one. “Look what happened to Nicole Simpson when she broke free.”

I am more than halfway convinced that Scotty has become an honest man. On the interviews I have seen, he comes across as much more articulate and self-confidant than he did in his days of standing at the podium in the White House press room and repeating his bosses’lies. He really may be “not the Scott we knew,” in that they didn’t imagine he was capable of standing up like this.

Nice. Hiatt’s amazingly talented, and one of the nicest guys in the music biz.

Look at as a badge of honor.. Some GOPer couldn’t take the truth!

“One does not speak truth to power in this White House. Look what happend to Mrs. Wilson.”

Yes I do.. Been meaning to reply to your email. Will do so this weekend.

Agreed.
He’s not letting everything out, but he’s on that course now.

Heh, if EW doesn’t have the facts straight on Plamegate, nobody does…! *g*

One does not denounce Caesar while still a member of the Praetorian Guard.

My first thought was that it was part of the Bush/Republicans separation program. I’ve been thinking for a while that they want to simply blame everything on a rouge Bush cabal, and this Fall they’ll run as “real” Repubes, and not connected to the Shrubinistas.

Still leaning this way, although I suppose Scottie’s having a come to Jesus time, but I really doubt that.

Hiatt’s amazingly talented, and one of the nicest guys in the music biz.

And from Indianapolis, original home of many great – wait, no we’re not.

You’re on a roll, wigwam… Don’t stop now! 8-)

Wigwam, Do you have a link to the Dole letter mentioned above?

Scott is obstinate and sees everything in black and white. My money says something pushed him over the edge and he aint backin off.

Has anyone asked him about the earpiece or gannon/guckert yet? He knows and I wanna know.

WTF is with that warning saying some readers question it’s accuracy…?

obviously, someone doesn’t know Marcy very well.

Or is a Republican.

In any event, he has great timing, in that the book and the PR splash it is making serve to remind the public of the vile nature of the regime that McBush aspires to inherit and perpetuate.

All clear in Indy, now?

Me too. I have mixed feelings about how he’s “coming out” so to speak. A John Dean would have testified first then written a book. I wonder if there is any smoking gun to be had and Marcy will help us figure that out.

Good for him for breaking free of this dysfunctional system. It is truly an abusive cult. I still cannot shake the image of Rumsfeld dressing down Army Major General Antonio Taguba for his truthful report about Abu Ghraib.

Both Bush and Cheney like the reputation of giving as much loyalty as they demand. Thing is, when they need a chump or a hit man or a fall guy, they have to pick from among the loyalists they’ve surrounded themselves with. What fine exemplars of character they are.

jayt – I found a fantastic Lightning Hopkins youtube today, from 1964. No embed code so I couldn’t post it up top.

I am more than halfway convinced that Scotty has become an honest man.

Which is still not quite the same as being able to say that he totally “gets it”, even now.

e.g., he still thinks Georgie is a pretty swell guy.

I hear you about the job thing. I raided the 401K this week for the umpteenth time. It’s feeling too normal to just putter around the house. Maybe we should have a support group…

FunnyD

I think it was more someone, than something… and I figure it was Turd Blossom, considering he seems to be target numero uno in Scottie’s book! Couldn’t be a more apropo target, I might add…! ;-)

yep. Was one kicker of a storm though.

Yep. I’m sure the GI Bill vote will go a long way to reassure folks back home they can still vote R. But I’d wait to see how it goes after the veto!

yep. We should.
House payment is due and no cash in sight. The trials of being self employed and not employable. Some how we always get the payment together.

There is talk of McClellan being called before a Congressional committee to testify as to what he knows. It would be interesting to see whether the WH would assert executive privilege in an attempt to silence him and whether that doctrine would stand up in court in a case where the witness, unlike Rove, Miers, Bolten, etc., is unwilling to be gagged. I guess it didn’t stop John Dean from testifying…

Could Scott testify in spite of the Gannonites not allowing him to?

thinking out loud…

perhaps scottie is surprised about the blowback because he was easy on Dubya and only going after Rove. Dangerous but maybe he thought he was helping Dubya’s rep by tearing into the rovester and holds him responsible for Dubya’s going ‘off course”. just a thought.

Whatever one thinks of Scottie, he’s extremely slippery and a bullshitter of the highest order.

A little follow up to the “Cheney tried to steal nukes and Louisiana caught him” story tonight.(from the newsbox)

Inspection of USAF unit blamed for nuclear missile foul-up comes up short

The US Air Force wing blamed for a foul-up in which a bomber mistakenly flew across America armed with nuclear missiles will have to be retested after coming up short in an inspection.

The Defense Threat Reduction Agency and the Air Force conducted a weeklong inspection of the Minot Air Force Base’s 5th Bomb Wing beginning May 16, said a base spokeswoman, Maj. Elizabeth Ortiz.
“It was a very thorough and important inspection that highlighted areas for improvement, especially in areas of training and discipline,” Ortiz said. “That’s what we’re working on and that’s where we’re focusing on.”

The Air Force said it would not release the inspection findings, saying the report was classified. The Air Force Times, citing a copy of the report, said the base received an unsatisfactory grade and inspectors found security breakdowns during mock attacks at the base.
SNIP

That’s one reason I’m ecstatic that Bob Barr won the Libertarian Ticket… Now, if only he could enlist Ron Paul as his Veep… 8-)

Essentially my question at 68, although you are more concise!

Good point. Yea, the Repubes in general don’t even seem to be trying to win the Fall. Can they really be that stoopid, or are they just screwing up a bunch? Hard to say at this point…

The one thing about the Gannon angle.. is if they attack Scottie, they admit to at least potentially knowing about it all along.

Sounds like he got some digs in at Libby and Cheney too. Although I haven’t read the book.

I called my public library and got on the list to check out the book (I am not willing to buy it). I’m No. 34 on the list.

I also thinks he looks much more relaxed and untroubled too….

He no longer has Darth and Chimpy sucking on his soul.

-G

A man at peace with himself…or at least on that road.

Go ahead. Buy it. Imagine how pissed Cheney is going to be if it sells and sells.

I found a fantastic Lightning Hopkins youtube today,

Excellent. Heck of a find.

Funny how that works, eh?

I imagine there are a whole lot more of American’s witnessing in real time the petty, bitter, vindictive, childish, angry, spiteful Bushista’s in action.

Some of us saw this long ago.

A pack of rabid Heather’s in mid character assassination.

-G

Sounds silly, but true nonetheless…the truth will set you free.

Number one on Amazon already!

rabid lambs vs. rabid Heathers.

To all those that ask “why didn’t Scottie say anything at the time?” I reference this morsel of truthtelling in the New Yorker article by Seymour Hersh:

Taguba told (hersh) that he understood when he began the inquiry that it could damage his career; early on, a senior general in Iraq had pointed out to him that the abused detainees were “only Iraqis.” Even so, he was not prepared for the greeting he received when he was finally ushered in.

“Here . . . comes . . . that famous General Taguba—of the Taguba report!” Rumsfeld declared, in a mocking voice. The meeting was attended by Paul Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld’s deputy; Stephen Cambone, the Under-Secretary of Defense for Intelligence; General Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (J.C.S.); and General Peter Schoomaker, the Army chief of staff, along with Craddock and other officials. Taguba, describing the moment nearly three years later, said, sadly, “I thought they wanted to know. I assumed they wanted to know. I was ignorant of the setting.”

It seems Scottie was not ignorant of the setting or the culture…

In his Countdown interview, he sounded like he was even considering voting for Obama! At least, that’s how Keith interpreted it tonight.

Sorry, I don’t have a link to the full letter, only to an article about it: http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/T…..ture/8267/

“There are miserable creatures like you in every administration who don’t have the guts to speak up or quit if there are disagreements with the boss or colleagues,” Dole wrote in the message sent Thursday. “No, your type soaks up the benefits of power, revels in the limelight for years, then quits and, spurred on by greed, cashes in with a scathing critique.”

One of my faves that’s almost as dreamy sounding as that song, ES. But more a train song in a way, since it’s got that feel of when i was on my way to Chicago a few weeks ago.

Chemical Brothers–Star Guitar

Watching the heads go ‘asplody while McClellan is making the rounds is amusing. Serves them right for doing what they’ve done. It’s probably too little too late, but the timing works regardless. It likely was timed to be THIS close to the wire of the election too. I somehow don’t doubt that.

the Repubes in general don’t even seem to be trying to win the Fall.

‘Tis possible. They’ve got things so monstrously screwed up that they’re all ready to settle in for at least the next four years for non-stop bitching?

They’re quite good at that, you know.

The lynchpin has been pulled. It happened in Watergate with J. Dean. It has happened now with Scotty. I feel confident. I feel hopeful. Strangely, I don’t feel that way I did when Libby was on trial. I was much more excited. This isn’t thrilling. It is a relief.

Scottie probably just thinks Barack is dreamy.

Perfect! I’d like to boil it all down to a bumper sticker. But what happened to Taguba is exactly the point!

Yes, bitching is like breathing for a Repube.

Probably it…hibernate for a while…lick wounds…and develop their next plans to rape and pillage the Earth.

So, Bob Dole (my former senator, er, let me rephrase that, formerly a senator from my state) declares Scott to be a “miserable creature” for telling the truth about his criminal former bosses.

Bob Dole, who as chairman of the Republican National Committee during Watergate, served as Richard Nixon’s brown-nosing lackey and faithful defender, putting out the White House talking points despite the mounting evidence of crime and corruption.

Oh, no, Bob was no “miserable creature.”

He was far beneath that.

Hahahahaha

Hmmmm…interesting. Could Scottie be the next Dean?

Sure hope Barack understands the stakes, and that he can’t let these Death-lovers slither away, only to return years later to destroy the world his daughters will inherit.

C’mon Barack! Think of you daughters….seriously.

and then the really cool highly produced ones?

I got one of those – Roxy Music – More Than This

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfgU4iQr8PU

Thanks. Checking it out now.

This is the man who wept at Nixon’s funeral, calling him “among the greatest men I have ever known.”

Judgment is key to being President. Yep.

I believe that he does.

Hey Bob Dole. Excuse me. BOB DOLE! Canyou hear me? didn’t think so.

From WaPo April 20, 2006

With endless patience, McClellan has absorbed months of battering at daily briefings over the president’s second-term problems. Although he never expressed it publicly, McClellan’s colleagues said he was frustrated that his credibility had been questioned after he relayed Rove’s assertion in 2003 that Bush’s top adviser had nothing to do with the leak of a CIA operative’s identity — a claim later discredited by grand jury testimony.

This seems consistent with what he is saying today. Plus…BOB?…he quit shortly thereafter. He quit when there were other staff “adjustments” being…loyal…and all and so as not to embarrass the “president”.

Vapid clams….

-G

heh. I called the cable company tonight to pay my bill; I’ve got the computer and teevee bundled – and by the time I got off the phone, they’d tripled the speed of my computer and I now have some movie channels.

And it only cost me $15 *less* than I was paying before.

I don’t know whether to be happy about the new deal, or kick my self in the ass for not figuring it out a long time ago.

I notice Amazon is offering it in a package deal with Richard Clarke’s new book

Wonder what Panama John’s Dole moment will be. Should be a doozy….

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hWib8GbrIlA

Hope you’re correct. The more I learn about Barack’s mother, the more I hope her influence is strong within him. You get the sense that she’d want the Killers out of positions of power for good.

I called the book store and they have four of his books left.

which cable company, I gotta pay my bill too…got one of those yellow letters.

Panama John has had an eight year run of Bob Dole moments in another sense…blind loyalty to a corrupt, dishonest evil master who probably laughs at him behind his back (I think Nixon made some belittling remarks about Dole on the Watergate tapes, all the while using him as a tool)

Obama sort of indicate that he’d follow up. And he is the only one who has. Even Chris Dodd, whose father (of whom he is immensely proud) was a Nuremberg prosecutor, said that were he elected, he’d not prosecute. (I was dismayed.)

ok, I’m gettin’ in that mood.

Mott the Hoople – All The Way From Memphis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rdh57VSlHI

Mine are red and I get them every two months.

I have always wondered…what is a Hoople?

company is called Brighthouse – I *think* they’re just local – but if you live in downtown Indy, that’s the only choice.

Sundays MTP appearance will sell a ton of books for Scottie.

I agree and Rove *is* the best candidate. Someone (not shrub) did or failed to do something specific that affected Scott personally. Probably tied to his departure, his love life? or scottymamma’s campaign.

Wish I could convince myself he saw the light in a broad general/policy way. But don’t see him looking past his self focus. I’d guess he’s a very angry person who has found relief through revenge — he’s always seemed wired too tight.

My opinion and $5 will get you a cuppa at Starbucks *g*

Here’s the Love Letter of Compassion and Concern by Big Bad Bob Dole:

Scott,

There are miserable creatures like you in every administration who don’t have the guts to speak up or quit if there are disagreements with the boss or colleagues. No, your type soaks up the benefits of power, revels in the limelight for years, then quits, and spurred on by greed, cashes in with a scathing critique.

In my nearly 36 years of public service I’ve known of a few like you. No doubt you will “clean up” as the liberal anti-Bush press will promote your belated concerns with wild enthusiasm. When the money starts rolling in you should donate it to a worthy cause, something like, “Biting The Hand That Fed Me.” Another thought is to weasel your way back into the White House if a Democrat is elected. That would provide a good set up for a second book deal in a few years.

I have no intention of reading your “exposé” because if all these awful things were happening, and perhaps some may have been, you should have spoken up publicly like a man, or quit your cushy, high profile job. That would have taken integrity and courage but then you would have had credibility and your complaints could have been aired objectively. You’re a hot ticket now but don’t you, deep down, feel like a total ingrate?

BOB DOLE

My bold. hhahahaha! Bob, what have you done for Maj. Gen. Taguba lately?

Hi Jayt. I think it’s a game they play. It happens every time I talk to them. But then the bills seem to go back to where they were before. I’ve got to start paying more attention.

I have always wondered…what is a Hoople?

ummm, I’ll get back to you as soon as I think of some kind of plausible lie…

Hi Sunny. At the time he left, I got the distinct feeling that he really felt used for having vouched for Rove and Libby. But, yes, there were probably other things too.

If you haven’t DUGG this post, now is the time!

Where was that posted?

Love a link for this, if you got…

See, that’s a strange letter from Dole to be so juvenile and taunting. The response has made me really wonder if this is elaborate Kabuki theater.

Sorry, i did try to link. I found it here but viligent firepups might want to cross check a site like politico.

This letter reminds me of… Bob Dole. A real smirking, condescending prick.

Their feeble brains are imploding…

When the money starts rolling in you should donate it to a worthy cause, something like, “Biting The Hand That Fed Me.”

Don’t forget Elizabeth.

That’s my take on it too. it’s so weird. And why from Bob Dole of all people?

Gwen Ifill just mentioned that it was an email Dole sent to Scottie… Bwhahaha…! ;-)

Dole has been around, and fallen off the block so many times, that he knows as well as anyone that writing a letter like that is only going to sell Scottie more books. Why inject himself into this when he could easily just keep quiet? Weird.

What’s on my mind?

US vs. Nixon

Maybe Dole’s prescription for hydraulic lifters got erroneously filled with anabolic steroids instead.

An ode to Dole:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related

crap. I went to politico where the bob dole email surfaced originally and my computer crashed!!! is our childrens learning? ugh.

Glad you’re with US! *s

I sense more than a touch of guilt and self-loathing in the former Nixon RNC Yes-Man’s attack on someone who hele a similar position but dared to rise above the slime that surrounded him and tell the truth for a change.

hehe….next thing you know, “On The” Dole is gonna be bench pressing Denny’s Hasturd in a show of manliness.

Gwen Ifill just mentioned that it was an email Dole sent to Scottie… Bwhahaha…! ;-)

BobDole – manly *and* on the cutting edge of technology!

Stevie Ray and The Fabulous T-Birds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig7OLce4Azk

Dole assures McClellan that he won’t read the book

Now that’s when GOPers are 1000 times funnier than a progressive could possibly be!

Because he is fundamentally stupid

I was at Stevie’s last show. Think I heard the crash as well since we hung around a long time afterward. Sad.

I love it! My fave Ray Charles song. great cover.

Heh, I tried to post O’Really’s implosion on Scottie and my ‘puter froze up… Cantankerous critters they can be, when we spoil them with all liberal /progressive blogs/sites and then thrust ‘em into the cruel harsh light of the Righties…! 8-)

Let’s send him one for Father’s Day. I think that’s why Scottie wanted to publish it now anyway.

the fact that Dole won’t read the book makes me all the more likely to read it

still, despite my gut feeling that Scotty is sincere, I can’t help wondering if this book and the bushco’s tsunami of scorn and criticism is not just some bright shiny object

to distract us from what…Iran?

I know! It’s like the blogs go all Jack “A Few Good Men” Nicholson on our poor ‘puters:
“you can’t handle the truth!”

707! I love it! Let’s send him a used copy, signed by Noam Chomsky.

Yep. And possible it was thought he hadn’t measured up in that regard.

Yep, he felt used. See snippet at 102

hehe….next thing you know, “On The” Dole is gonna be bench pressing Denny’s Hasturd in a show of manliness.

I think he’s going for a Congressional Medal of Honor. And at the ceremony he’s going to do pushups like Jack Palance and tell bush he craps bigger than him.

These people are such unrepentant evil. When I read that shit by Dole, all I could think of was “yet another Republican comic villian.” Unrepentant evil!

Party discipline.. deterrence. scared of a snowball effect.

Why inject himself into this when he could easily just keep quiet? Weird.

One more time: unrepentant evil!

Since the White House got to review Scott McClellan’s book well in advance of its release, they may be coordinating planned responses from a number of voices to keep the distraction going for a couple of months or so.

I can’t wait for Dana Purinachow’s tell-all titled:

“Oh. My. Gawd: Working at the White House is SOOOOO Kewl!!!”

Alternate title:

“Pigs, Missles, and Apple Pie”

Ah yes. Bully tactics…it’s all they know.

Their whole game is on the line. They have to counter-attack. And they have no substance with which to counter-attack. It all has to be ad hominem. And even there, McClellan hasn’t done much so they’ll have to manufacture shit and wrap it around whatever little tidbits of dope smoking etc that they can find.

The old prick has done this before.
I have a glimmer of memory – Dole weighing in some years back about another “turncoat.”

And Dole has brought some shit into his own house on occasion – this is funny.

former Senator Bob Dole wrote a letter Monday to radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh, urging him to lay off his attacks on John McCain as not a true conservative and support the Republican nominee.

Asked about the letter on Fox News, Romney replied, “Well, it’s probably the last person I would have wanted to have write a letter for me. I think there a lot of folks who tend to think that maybe John McCain’s race is a bit like Bob Dole’s race. That it’s the guy who’s next in line, the inevitable choice.”

I’m not sure who will be more interesting to watch on MTP, Scottie or pumpkinhead. After Olbermann, Scottie probably has his sea legs back, fwiw.

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But having a bigger megaphone and lots of parrots has served them well in the past.
Not, they are a bit exposed.

Harriett Meyers could ghost if for her.

I am sure Russerts goal will be to talk about nothing.

God, how I’d love to see this whole nonsensical farce come crashing down! These people are so damn repugnant. They’re such lying sacks of shit. I resent the fact that they breath the same air as the rest of us.

they may be coordinating planned responses from a number of voices to keep the distraction going for a couple of months or so.

Gawd, I hope so. I want the treachery and treason out in public for as long as possible.

My take: Scottie-Boy was a shill then and is probably a shill now. I won’t pay for his book, but I will read other’s take on it. In what way does his chit-chat (really nothing new, as I hear) have to do with anything? Too late to this lady’s party.

Who’ll be the next in line

Foreward by Helen Thomas

I forgive Scottie just enough to designate him as Bush and Cheneys personal press secretary at the HAGUE.

Damn right. But they have only one meme so far:

If McClellan had any courage, he’d have spoken up sooner.

The implication being that we can therefore dismiss him. I’d like to have a comeback that dismisses them.

Eureka: I have to work in Bentonville in two weeks. Last time I was there, everyone was saying I should go to ES. Can’t remember how far that is. Have very little free time, but is it worth trying to make it happen?

Ya gotta think Scottie knows what they’re gonna say, and be ready with responses. He’s pretty good at this shit.

About 40 miles on a two lane highway for the most part.. Well worth it! Even just for a dinner and a stroll.

In what way does his chit-chat (really nothing new, as I hear) have to do with anything? Too late to this lady’s party.

Now WE, who knew this stuff was going on, have an eye-witness, first-person informant vouching to the whole world for what we’ve been claiming. That’s very, very big.

I’ll buy that one.

There is always that possibility.
And I have found that others often have better antennae than mine.

But…
I was listening to some White House reporters talk today, and the consensus seems to be that, of all 4 of Chimpy’s press secretaries, Scotty was the only one who had ‘walk-in’ access to the Oval, and was a Texas friend. I’m betting there’s meat here, and Scotty isn’t done.

Uhoh, do I smell a FDL meetup…? ;-)

seeing as how I’m firmly stuck in the past tonight, TRex, Telegram Sam

where’d I leave my go-go boots?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du7jfDYe5LI

Put him under oath, for petes sake! Oh, and ask some pointed questions!

Obama’s going to give his acceptance speech (likely after the “white working class” voters of MT give him the nom…brillant move to hold just enough supers to allow this to happen) at the same area in MN that the Repubes are holding their convention.

Day after day Team Obama does a move like this that amazes me. New ideas that are really effective. What a statement that sends to officially kick off the General Election. Barack’s coming right at ‘em! None of this Kerry/Bob Shrum mamby pamby wimpy BS.

Don’t let Scotty get into any small airplanes.

We’ll see. He’s still thinking he’s Bush’s good buddy. And, dontcha love it, he was “out of the loop.” I don’t know that this will go anywhere. They’ve spun everyone for years. He’s ‘disgruntled.” We’ll see. I just don’t see Scottie as a real power house. I can hope…..but not with much enthusiasm. Two weeks and he’s done, in my opinion.

Ya gotta think Scottie knows what they’re gonna say, and be ready with responses.

I kinda liked when he said that the attacks pretty much proved his point of the never-ending campaign.

wigwam @171: But they have only one meme so far:….I’d like to have a comeback that dismisses them.

I think there’s something to be said for sitting back and watching them thrash in impotency.

Thanks. Not sure it’ll be possible, but will have to keep in mind. I did like Fayetteville last time, so have a couple of options outside of WaltonWorld.

One can hope. I’d have preferred that he manned-up sooner. This just doesn’t pass the smell test for me.

I know. I’m a little worried about him. OTOH maybe he saw what happened to the DC Madam and thought he should come clean and hide in plain sight so to speak?

Just occurred to me.. compared to the likes of harold Ford and a lot of other losers, MSM hires a designates “expert” status.. Scottie might be a real good person to put on the commentator dole (pun intended) for the rest of the year.

Though I doubt many anchors want to look at him anymore than they have to.. so you are probably right.

I think there’s something to be said for sitting back and watching them thrash in impotency.

That’s exactly all they can do…!

I have 2 tests for this:
one – Do I believe him?
Yes.
two – will Chimpy attempt to exert Executive Privilege prevent his testimony?
Also yes.

Well we can ask a lurking mod to share our email addys.. and chat more if you like..)

well, it takes about a year to write and publish a book. Rove left the WH around August last year. Maybe this is when Scotty thought it was “fair game” to proceed. From what I am reading about this soap opera, most of Scotty’s bitterness stems from being used by Rove.

He only would’ve been shown the door… Look at Shinseki, O’Neill, Powell, etal…!

good gawd – it’s after 3:00 – gonna either have to go to bed or make coffee – coin flip.

Ray Charles – Night Time is The Right Time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad5KvCFJYsM

At your service, Eureka, if you like.

If it’s Kona Coffee, I’d opt for the java…! ;-)

I’d like to see Bushie claim exec priv on this point. I’d also like to believe that Scottie can step right up. But I wondered all those years while he obfuscated and then wondered during his time in the wilderness. I just don’t have a good feeling about him. He’s no one to me til he shows me that he is actually someone.

OK, calling it a night. HOpe to see you all on the rules and bylaws wingding tomorrow a.m.

I love my SRV (saw him live twice in the 80’s in TX) but Chicago blues House mixer Mark Farina is also on my mind and will be in town tomorrow night. This is one funky dance tune he incorporated into his mushroom jazz series back when: dun da da ding

That’s cool. Gotta runn off at the moment but feel free share mine if you’re able. Thanks.

Perfecto.

The shameful one is Powell. He never stood up. O’Neill tried to state his case, I think. Shinseki got rolled. Scotty also never stood up…..he hugged and slunk away. Sorry, but he just doesn’t reek truth to me.

no Kona, but I’m leaning towards the coffee approach…

How come you’re down to one Exclamation point? Keyboard fatigue? Operator fatigue? I’m worried about you…. lol

I have a couple of CD’s from that series.

Aloha, dosido!

nite dosido

Heh, Suz and RBG told me to cease and desist on the exclamation marks…! So I did!

The shameful one is Powell.

yep. Always has been, in my opinion.

the noive of some people – takin’ away your signature sign-off!!! heh.

I agree that Powell was the biggest disappointment of the lot…

Bob Shrum is a brilliant campaign advisor. He writes the best concession speeches in the business.

I agree with your estimate of his “shelf life.” But his testimony could have far reaching impact. We’ll have to wait and see.

Yeah, sad. I might be up too late, but I think Powell actually went to work for the Carlyle Group. He sold out…..and we just don’t know exactly when that happened. What promises were made to him to get him to lie to The United States of America? Sorry day. But….I heard a new guy…one Barak Obama….speak at a convention and I remember calling my sister on the other coast and saying, “Wow, I just heard the next president speak!” We can still have hope. We’ll see. For me, well, I’m just trying to diversify and stay mobile-available…..while I also do all I can to change what’s wrong with my beloved country.

What’s Shrum’s track record these days, 0 for what?

ok – it’s time to fire up the coffee pot – hell, I enjoy the occasional all-nighter…

Tom Waits The Piano Has Been Drinking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91s9eUcFU7g

KO will get a million mile of replay out of this week, no matter what.

Did anyone catch his montage of Billo at the end of the show tonight.. I think KO shredded Billo like never before!

Can Chimpy decree that someone can’t answer the questions of an FBI agent?

Moyers and Donohue… what a mix…! ;-)

The phrase from the Watergate era was “twist slowly, slowly in the breeze.” I believe that was John Erlichmann.

Bob doesn’t count wins.
He counts sheckles.

The test will be whether or not he really has any substance. He didn’t seem to have much substance when he was chitty-chatting from the podium. It will be interesting to see who he really is and why he chose now to do his tell-all. I hope he’s got something inside….that he’s got a spine.

Spew! Zero-for-what indeed!

What’s Shrum’s track record these days, 0 for what?

0 for all-of-’em, I think.

He can try, and that’s my clue.
If Scotty’s really out of the loop, the only reason to constrain him is just to exert himself – I don’t see that.

the mushroom jazz series is as close to having universal appeal as any house music I’ve heard. good stuff. Whatever gets spun sat night won’t be that, but I’m a devotee and will get into it, whatever it is. I’m guessing I’ll oversleep MTP Sun morning. tough call ;)

I’ve seen marvelous turncoats, e.g., John Dean. He turned truth-teller during his Watergate testimony and was awesome. Scotty is certainly not a Dean level intellect, but he’s a very bright and articulate guy and can do a hell of a lot of damage to his former comrades if he has the right support structure around him. Olbermann got that process off to an excellent start. (Visibly I have higher hopes than you, but I’m not betting my house that he won’t snivel out.)

Gives Bobo and Kristol, amongst all the Pnac’ers, a run for their money, eh?

Darn, I missed Moyers…..forgot it was Friday…..what a joy to be semi-retired! But I saw Tavis and Donohue tonight and that was pretty energizing.

The Who–Eminence Front

I didn’t find this song until the late 90s when a fellow audiophile gave me an mp3 of it. But the song is utterly amazing and has a lot to say. It’s now my current ringtone. *grin* I was all of 5 when the song came out though. *rocks out to Pete’s voice and guitar* THAT is composing for the electronic age. It’s only now being matched in electronica in a totally different tone.

The lyrics are sneaky too. *grin* Who’s got the Put-On right now? *eyes the admin and waves at the NSA cheekily*

Shit! I missed them both. Fell asleep.

Can Chimpy decree that someone can’t answer the questions of an FBI agent?

Hi Margot – just gettin’ in? *g*

And no, he can’t – obstruction of justice is what that would be. Sadly, however, there is no one to prosecute him.

One thing about Mukasey (as opposed to Abu), he’ll look you right in the eye when he tells ya he’s not going to do his job.

Moyers was covering Donohue’s new film… Checkout the PBS website for a rerun…!

Spew… Sleep man, sleep! I cannot watch Russert at all.. I can barely make myself read about his Cheneynigans on blogs.

Let’s make a distinction between “being right” and “winning elections.”

I’m old enough to remember how the Republicans excoriated John Dean ….. I still get anxious about it and give him credit for sticking in. I think of him as a truth-teller who came late to the table….he, too, could have spoken up earlier and stopped the madness. But perhaps he knew that he wouldn’t be listened to. A la Shinseki, et al.
My twin brother is a neo-con and he still thinks that John Dean is worthy of …..well, you know. And, you are right, Scotty doesn’t seem to be the brightest tooth on this comb. We’ll see if he amounts to anything.

True, bad analogy, at least Shrum is not a neocon…!

Moyers was a repeat of a very good show.

Well fabulous firedogs.. it’s that time again in the Ozarks..

Nice to have you join in, Dearie..)

g’ nite all

Nite, ES.

Aloha, ES! Darn it, I got nailed again for a duplicate comment…! Maybe, Aloha is too versatile…

Hm. This is getting interesting.

nite eureka

Dearie – that was truly sad, what was done to Dean. Even now, they can’t let up.

In 2006 I believe, Dean testified at Feingold’s censure hearing, and the backhanded drivel from the Goopers on the committee was shocking and filthy, particularly BoxTurtle.

Dean is made of stern stuff.
Scotty – we’ll see.

I did enjoy watching Dean’s welcoming of Scottie to the fold…! “Don’t expect a X-mas card from the WH…” ;-)

The Reverend Al Green – Tired of Being Alone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqBdtB5KWgI

Oops, sorry! I shall bid ya’ll a fond adieu! Aloha Oe!!!

nite tuttle

Hey, Pups

My housemate really, really pissed me off tonight, and I’m still mad at her. She overheard something at the end of Colbert and said “well _I_ grew up with folks who thought the New Deal was a [crock o shit, basically]”
Oh, why’s that? “Because it negated all of their hard work.”
Really? Because it helped other people? “Yeah. Other people got stuff for free and they didn’t get nothin’”.
Oh. Do you subscribe to that view (me trying not to say “gee, what a bunch of self-centered selfish proto-neocons”)? “Well, I just think that the history we’re taught isn’t always the way it actually was.”
And, yes, I was getting heated at this point, but she really ratcheted it up when she said, “well if you’re going to be that way I don’t want to talk about it. Those stupid political shows just make you mad.”
Yes. I’m mad as hell. I want my fucking country back, and I want my fucking constitution back.
“then why aren’t you out protesting?”
(fair question, I guess, but not fairly asked, imo)
good idea, maybe I’ll get out on the weekends and do that. (BTW, how the #!@#$#! do you even know what I might or might not be doing to affect things politically?)

“anyone who believes in a classless society is delusional.”
I don’t believe in that, but I don’t believe the govt should be actively making the inequities worse.
“well, govt can’t do any of the things people think it should.”
???!!! we shouldn’t have one?
“no, we just shouldn’t expect them to do anything for us. people shouldn’t wait around for studies to show that poor people in urban areas don’t have access to fresh fruit or veg.”
(WTF did that come from?) OK, so what are YOU doing?
“working my ass off to make my life better. trying to focus on what’s good and to make things better in my corner of the universe.”
Oh, and nobody else who’s doing that is in government?
“no.”
(and, no, she didn’t just mean Federal, I asked).
Her bottom line is that “people” are just complaining too much (about what’s wrong with the country/world, I guess) and not doing anything about it, and we should all quit worrying about anything outside our own communities.

I really felt attacked, which is what made and makes me so angry. Who the HELL is she to judge? This is someone I ordinarily respect. Had no idea she had this cranky weird selfish libertarian-ish streak. And I guess I’m willing to accept that some people benefitted less than others from the New Deal, but to judge it based on your own family seems kind of myopic to me. Weird coming from someone who thinks a more generous GI bill is a good idea.

Thanks for letting me vent. I think it’s going to be uncomfortable around here for awhile. I’m really mad and I’m not backing down. I don’t need her judging me. She’s tired of living here, she’s welcome to find somewhere else. I’m that mad, and it’s a friendship I value.

So…any comiseration or constructive input is appreciated. and any other historical perspective on the new deal would be good, too. Though I could ask my mom and my aunt–their parents lived through the depths of the depression. And my Dad paid for his college degree on the GI bill after the Korean War.

FunnyDiva

okay, i know i’ve been away awhile but….looks like you’ve had the decorators in again…am not sure about this : ((( Am i in the right place?

Dean is made of stern stuff. Scotty – we’ll see.

He’s held up pretty darned well so far, imo. But I also remember the many times it looked like he might just break down and cry at the podium at the WH. I’m not expecting Scotty to ever be John Dean – he’ll do the book tour, and probably testify, and that may well be the last we ever see of him…

nite, CT!!!

You should be able to see it at the PBS website.

Hi Alias, any news on the job?

FunnyD

Goopers are slime.

Am i in the right place?

Absolutely – nice to see ya.

I was a relatively young man, as was he, when Dean testified before the Watergate commission. What an intellect. I’m not saying he was or is the wisest guy ever — he still calls himself a conservative — but damn how that guy could recall and explain details!

No word yet. I had the interview this tuesday, but they’re doing more of that through all next week too. So i’d expect the earliest i hear a yay or nay from HR is going to be next friday. But the whole thing went rather well overall. A lot more positives than negatives in the whole thing.

I agree – Scotty has taken some punches and kept running the company line out there, day after day.

And it’s not fair to compare Dean and McClelland, but Dean has been on the outside for 34 years. That’s what Scotty has to look forward to.

Hi, Spidey
Nice to see you!
FunnyD

Good for you. And at least you’re out there in the game and in the running. More than I can say for myself lo these many months.
FunnyD

why does everything look so strange? there are no ads anymore? and lots of question marks everywhere…

IMHO, we should make room here in our tent for those who finally see the light albeit late.

Yep. His books are treasures. All of them.
And if Dean is a Conservative, and we have to have Conservatives at all, let them all be of similar caliber.

If that were so, we’d have us a fair fight.

strange. sounds like a server or a browser thing, Spidey.
I still see mas plenty ads around here. But I try to remember to click through, since they’re paying some of the bills.
FunnyD

There was some kind of server breakdown this afternoon. What we have now is way better than then, but not everything is back to normal.

but Dean has been on the outside for 34 years. That’s what Scotty has to look forward to.

John Dean strikes as a man very comfortable in his own skin – I hope Scott can pull that off too.

I also hopes he keeps on ‘reflecting’, because he still doesn’t get it all – some of it, but not all.

Hi Spidey! I’m fine now.
The place was bit bedraggled today. Maybe clearing caches…

…this is so wrong

My family goes back German/Danish/Irish. I’m not sure what the connection is, but i didn’t learn generosity until I met two women who came to America as legal (shameful to have to say that, I think….but gotta be clear) immigrants from Mexico. I feel that my upbringing was tight and scrimpy. My Mexican friends grew up with much less but have such a sense of generosity. Perhaps your roommate grew up stingy like I did. I’ve spent years learning how to be a person. Teacher, social worker, lawyer…..I was well into my 50’s before I learned to be a less stingy person. What trails we wander. Be kind.

Completely agree*. It’s no wonder that Dean is so welcomed here. His Salons are the stuff of legends.

*Except that shithead Byron York – if they let him in, I’m going Green.
Oh, and Freidman. And Cohen. And…

Well, if this doesn’t go through i’ve still got lots of retail pharmacies to chose from to apply and reapply at too. Any one of them will pay better for a fully certified and experienced pharm tech that they only have to give minimal training to.

Oh, and my only major negative was the pain medications i’m on for my endometriosis. It may prevent me from going into the Chemotherapy Compounding team, but otherwise i think i’m good for nearly anything else. All depends on the regulations setup for the job. They really appreciated my honesty in bringing up the issue, which i thought it was unprofessional to hide it from them. I have the health problem–but i still work a full 8 hour day on my feet the entire time with it. It’s managed and with the way i run around? I still do at least 3 to 4 miles a day or more during cold/flu season. If i can do that? I can work with a hospital.

man, I hope that tomorrow is not Gay Pride Day here in Indy if I’m pulling an all-nighter here tonight. That was the most fun I had all last summer. Met *ilson46201 for the first time too.

I’m clearly going to have to get some of his books.
And you’re right, if all conservatives were of his caliber not only would we have a fair fight, I think the US Constitution would not be fighting for its life at the moment.
And if politicians of all stripes could make a commitment to working in good faith for the good of all the people, well, “what a wonderful world this could be.” Screw the phony bipartisanship.

FunnyD

I’m enjoying your comments. Are you new around these here parts?

FunnyD,
We talked about this the other day in here, about the GI Bill that is. Amazing amount of wealth it created, by investing in millions of GIs’ educations.I think a figure I heard was for every $1 put in, we got $7 back.
Try explaining to your housemate that investing in the country is what taxes go for. Even for poor people, because we all benefit.
We have all used services that other people paid taxes for and govt. helped deliver…like the electrical grid, highway system, postal service, public schools, water and meat inspectors etc. etc. The CDC, military, fire, police, on and on.
No one can say, “I get off here, I don’t have to pay.”
Not unless it’s 1880, and you are homesteading, and you have to improve your land or lose it. But then you do manual labor and die young. Ah, the good old days.

Sorry Diva. Don’t know what to say, except:

Though I could ask my mom and my aunt–their parents lived through the depths of the depression. And my Dad paid for his college degree on the GI bill after the Korean War.

Pretty well spells out how the middle class was built – what we’re watching now is it’s dismemberment.

I’ve lurked for years….don’t recall how far back FDL goes, but I’m pretty sure I was here. I was lawyering and stuff. Finally got time to check in. I’m still getting used to speaking up…..shy by nature. But, wow, it’s nice to be out.

Sarah McLachlan: Angel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CbAjj80NIM

Did I just blow my rep and show myself as a softie?

Good reminder on the kindness, thanks.
My parents and my aunt also display that lack of generosity to a significant degree, though it’s a stinginess of spirit as much as anything. And they’re not bad or mean people, really.
Lots of shades of gray. But you’re right–the Depression was very hard on her grandparents. One grandmother was beaten as a girl for not scraping ALL of the cake batter out of the bowl.

That Northern European rugged self-sufficiency has a significant downside–and I say that as someone of that background myself.

FunnyD

Fair to wonder about his future. The book is a one-shot deal and even if a blockbuster, hardly an annuity.

I’ve seen her live.
You should be forgiven for this departure from your head-banger self.

Classic! May I quote you?

Spidey,
If you have Firefox, go to the top of the page where it says View, and from there click Character Encoding.
It needs to be set on Unicode (at least that’s what mine is on and I see no question marks). If it’s on another kind it may have question marks where apostrophes are supposed to be.
I hope that helps.

“What we’re watching now is its dismemberment”
Cheerfully enabled by those who benefited (whether they admit it or not) but now resent having anyone else get a helping hand.
I can’t believe that any of the housemate’s family or family friends never benefited from a New Deal project or never drove on an interstate or that their poor, rural community (Eastern WA) never got anything from higher up in all that time.

FunnyD

But, wow, it’s nice to be out.

And it’s nice to have you here.

Always good to have another lawyer around – I’m still trying to get my practice to the point where I’m not here quite so much.

Hey, Dearie
I didn’t lurk nearly as long as you did. Glad you’re “out” now, and that we all have Late and LateLate night to just kind of hang out and build relationships.
FunnyD

Without Big Government and those eevil taxes, there wouldn’t have been a Rural Electrification program. link

You should be forgiven for this departure from your head-banger self.

Phew!! I was afraid I was gonna have to break out some Social D or something.

Maybe something more middle of the road – Concrete Blonde, Joey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIIlUHBNkEc

Obama may believe it but I don’t. Modern Republicans are scum, and there’s no rational way to deal with them. (Yes, of course, there are a very few exceptions here and therer.)

Nah. Variety is the spice and all that.
Moderation in all things…
including abstinence, as my high-school biology teacher used to say
including head-banging

FunnyD
Who prefers the classics, and, unlike Spock, does know “row, row, row your boat”.

I wish my own parents had said to me now and than, “Be kind.” We did have lots of truth. Which is why I can get so annoyed with Scotty and the gang. You know how you say your folks weren’t mean….well I’m not convinced my folks were not. And I kind of think that there is a meanness in Bush/Cheney/Rice/Rummy et al.
Else why so trash the lovely country we inhabit? I’m looking for someone who wants to be kind to our country – to revive our spirits, rejuvenate our love of who we are when we are at our best.

Every modern nation has a “big government.” Our problem is that we’ve been electing people who don’t believe in big governments to run ours. The results have been quite predictable.

Of course. I come here to be open and clear. I do love the Lake!

Let’s hope that, when Senator Obama ascends to the Big Chair, he staffs as well as he has his campaign.
More importantly IMO, is this – he must do a bit of bare-knuckled brawling with Congress.
Johnson-style.

yeah, we’re on the same page. they’re scum because they don’t even pretend to act in good faith (or barely pretend to do so) and have chosen to get very good at marketing their swill instead of improving their product.
Thus my emphasis on people working in good faith. But, yeah, when a powerful group doesn’t even believe in serving any interests but their own, things get awfully ugly.
FunnyD

Particularly when their MO is to manipulate base emotions. They have coarsened society.

But, yeah, when a powerful group doesn’t even believe in serving any interests but their own, things get awfully ugly.

Exactly! Their morality boils down to “Good is when I get an advantage on you; evil is when you try to get parity with me.” And the same goes for their friends in the middle east.

And I kind of think that there is a absolutely nothing but meanness in Bush/Cheney/Rice/Rummy et al.

There – fixed. Just tryin’ to help, ya know.

Damn, Obama has put together a classy campaign, at least compared to the other two left in the race.

Oh, and I just remembered one of housemate’s objections to the New Deal: it relied on the War and the war machine, etc.
Which I actually don’t believe. I think the post-war boom really accelerated things, but the investments of the New Deal in infrastructure and in putting the jobless to work building it were just not a function of the war.
And my point at the time was, yes, and look at how the last 8 years of revving up the war machine has helped things.
As in: NOT!!! This time the war is about benefiting the already obscenely wealthy and powerful and breaking the backs of everyone else to finance it. Sure, lots of rich people got richer off of WWII, but a lot of not-rich people became a lot better off as well. That it’s different this time is not a function of “government” but of THIS (piss-poor excuse for a) government. And I’m not supposed to express anger in my own home? Well excuuuuuuuuuse me!

FunnyD

Oh, and I just remembered one of housemate’s objections to the New Deal: it relied on the War and the war machine, etc.

Funny, since the New Deal started in ‘33…
Oh well, so much for talking points.

Good edit. Thanks.

They have coarsened society.

Nicely put. But, I would say, not irreversibly. If you ever get the chance to go to an Obama event, you’ll see one heck of a lot of people with the hope of a better country and world on their faces. It’s quite an experience.

According to economists and old-timers, there was lots of slack in the economy from say 1930 to 1942. Too much slack! But that meant that government spending would fix the problem without plunging us into a “wage/price sprial” i.e., inflation. And, indeed, the remedy worked.

Yeah, or in the case of housemate’s family/family friends
if you get something for (what I think is) nothing and I don’t (think I get anything), then everything I’ve worked for/achieved is de-valued. IOW, what I have isn’t enough unless it’s a lot more than what someone else has–especially if they’re less worthy.

Sounds a bit like “eeeeek! if homos can marry, it’ll ruin my hetero marriage! eeeeek!”

Grrrrrrr.

FunnyD

Damn, Obama has put together a classy campaign, at least compared to the other two left in the race.

Yes he has indeed. Which worries the hell out of me. I hope that, the day after he secures the nomination, he can sit down with John Kerry for a couple of hours to learn what a classy campaign might end up costing him in the General.

IMHO, he already has his eye on the General. His staff are very professional in those ways.

I hope this is the only time I share this at the Lake….but one of the finest feelings I had when my divorce was finally final was to say quietly but clearly to my Ex…..”I didn’t vote for Nixon.” I’m not sure whether he was more hurt that I left him or that I didn’t vote the way he told me to. Sometimes one just has to stand up.
And sometimes one just has to tuck in. Night all. Talk to you soon.

Damn, it’s gotten past my bedtime.

G’nite, all.

Yes he has indeed. Which worries the hell out of me. I hope that, the day after he secures the nomination, he can sit down with John Kerry for a couple of hours to learn what a classy campaign might end up costing him in the General.

At the risk of pissing-off Kerry fans and New Englanders everywhere-
The Kerry Campaign was startling in it’s blithering ineptitude, slow-footedness and pandering (anyone wanna go goose hunting), and sealed its own fate in October.

Obama has the right horses. He should ride them for all they’re worth.

I get what you mean, I’m just having trouble defining “slack” to myself.
But, yeah, seems to me there was a huge pool of labor that needed something to do and a way to feed their families and themselves, and a large vacuum of infrastructure development waiting/needing to happen on a scale that made the Federal gov’t at the time the most logical source of funds and direction.
Nice to know I’m not actually pig ig’nant about the New Deal. I agree with housemate about taking the history we learn with a grain of salt, but I don’t think the story of the New Deal is a major concern in that regard. I really think it’s still one of the best big gov’t success stories in our history.

FunnyD

G’nite Dearie and wigwam – sleep well.

nite dearie. glad you keep coming back

The Kerry Campaign was startling in it’s blithering ineptitude, slow-footedness and pandering

IMO, the ineptitude and slow-footedness came in the form of failing to counter-attack, or at least counter, quickly and efficiently, the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, the charges of flip-flopping and tax-raising.

Eventually, he put the lie to each and every one, but not until those things were burned into the public consciousness and became his public image.

Obama had better be ready to move quickly, and not shy from firing right back when the Republican attack machine kicks into high gear (and you know that it will). From time to time, he’s gonna have to be ready to take the gloves off.

Except that as far as I can tell, he and his campaign are being classy by basically ignoring the nomination fight and just cutting to the chase and acting like the nominee–IOW he’s actively engaging McCain and his apologists and their talking points. Maybe it’s just the media coverage, but HRC now seems to be spending all her time justifying her continued presence in the race, which sounds to me more and more like all hat and no cattle the longer it goes on.

And I’m someone who deeply mistrusted Obama’s popularity and charisma at first. Not any more. I think he’s appealing to our better selves as individuals and as a nation and I’m ready to try working from that perspective.

Goodnight to all sleepy pups. And thanks for the perspective on the housemate front. I’m probably on my way to bed pretty soon, too.

FunnyD

I agree that Kerry failed to rebuff the initial salvos, and it cost him. But once they realized it, they were on the defensive for the rest of the campaign.

They were completely reactive, symbolized by the catastrophic goose hunt photo-op. Even after scalping Chimpy in the debates, they couldn’t find their offensive game.

time to sleep
nite jayt
nite pups

yo

Nite newton and FunnyD.

Mornin’ Raven. Guess I’m working the swing shift here…

I underestimated Obama and his approach. Almost daily more competence and good judgment are revealed. And good people are enthusiastic. It’s downright hope inspiring.

Hey, Raven
Night everyone, have the wall now. See all y’all tomorrow later today.

FunnyD

Don’t know if you’re still here or not, but – I got the chance to spend an hour or two with the Obama legal team on Primary Night. I don’t know about the rest of the Obama staff, but those were, well, just kids – *very* young.

I hope he’s got some older war-dogs in there somewhere, because eventually, it will get ugly.

Not back in a no-sleep gig I hope?

What a nasty piece of work Dole is. He’s talking about ’snitches’ as if the repugs were a crime culture, like the mafia…oh wait, they are.

He’s got this old war-dog

It’s downright hope inspiring.

You should have been here May 6. The line of people waiting to get into a park that was already 2/3 full, stretched, with people standing, 2,3,4 abreast, 6 1/2 blocks long.

I think the reported estimate of attendance was around 15,000, but heck, there were probably nine or ten thousand still on the sidewalks just trying to get in.

nah, doing this one on purpose. I’ll probably grab a few hours here shortly.

cool

Hey Citizen Raven and Firepups, you folks still up? I’m workin again. Raven I still wanna get some folks tagether and put a front page proposal tagether with a few folks…a collective kinda effort we ken run by Hamsher and Hardin Smith. I’ll try and stop by late this afternoon (I gotta mow the damned lawn before I get ta sleep taday er the Boss will turn me out).

Geez I been really disappointed around here lately with a lotta really
dumb stuff with regard to vets and military service comein from folks who should know better.

He’s got this old war-dog

yeah, me too. Which is funny, because almost exactly a year ago, there was a thing in one of the parks across the street, and Obama had people there passing out literature and stuff and I wanted no part of it – didn’t like his “reach across the aisle” rhetoric.

I figure that, as President, he’ll try to reach across the aisle a few times, and get punched right in the mouth each time. But he is a brilliant man – shouldn’t take him too long to learn.

Hiya Norske – I’m betting that they wouldn’t have a problem with that, and I hope you get to do it.

I’m headed for a hs graduation in Virginia, won’t be around til Tuesday. Drive on mofo’s

when you heading out?

I’ll dig around and try and run it by some a the other “war dogs” and give a warnin’ shot ta Hamsher…we can’t do this withcha though Bro…

“…withOUTcha though…”

you wanna contribute…ya jest gotta be old enough ta have been over 18 in 1964-65 (or there abouts)?

I came around because of the young people. I’m in now because of the competence. Betcha revisiting HAVA will appear on the table.

wish I could, but I don’t fit the profile. Turned 18 in November of ‘74. Missed the draft, and the military wasn’t a real popular destination at that point.

I’ll look forward to your piece though.

My youngest daughter tipped me over ta Obama…I was still holdin on ta Edwards then but she called home from the University one night…she’d been at an Obama rally with 15,000 other students and I was hooked, line and sinker.

I’m in now because of the competence.

yep. I don’t know who gets the credit, maybe David Axelrod, but they’ve sure been smooth. They’ve only gotten hurt by things from outside, like Reverend Wright – the campaign itself hasn’t put a foot wrong yet.

This contrasts sharply with the Clinton campaign, which has shot itself in the foot so many times I’m surprised it’s still moving. I read somewhere (Time magazine?) that Mark Penn actually thought, right up until the primaries started, that the Dem’s had a winner-take-all system like the Repub’s do. But, to the Clintonians, it’s all about sexism. Makes me wanna throw something.

Hey, it’s after 6:00 – time for some cheery morning music.

Alabama 3 Woke up This Morning

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgoyXJiZqLk

I’m off to the farmers market – my favorite event of the week.

Great night at FDL.. Loved kicking around the scotty affair – can’t get enough of it.

see ya Sunny – enjoy the day.

Mornin’ all!

Mornin’ twolf1. Coffee’s on.

It’s Morningtime and there’s wangdangdoodle! I’ll put a silver quarter in the juke:
A Little Bit of Soul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WEPSaaXwHM

heya jayt, twolf

Mornin’ Ellie! I’ve got the volume down so as not to wake anyone.

Christy is upstairs…