Comments on: The Straight Talker-er http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/29/the-straight-talker-er/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:35:47 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: demi http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/29/the-straight-talker-er/#comment-1467893 demi Thu, 29 May 2008 15:42:07 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/29/the-straight-talker-er/#comment-1467893 <p>I still do and I’m 56. But, a very youthful 56, if there is such a thing.</p> I still do and I’m 56. But, a very youthful 56, if there is such a thing.

]]> By: mui1 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/29/the-straight-talker-er/#comment-1467892 mui1 Thu, 29 May 2008 15:40:22 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/29/the-straight-talker-er/#comment-1467892 <p>Oh Selise, in case you are around, a video might pop up on Ned Lamont’s site: <a href="http://nedlamont.com/" rel="nofollow">http://nedlamont.com/</a> . Can’t find any video for last night on you tube though.</p> Oh Selise, in case you are around, a video might pop up on Ned Lamont’s site: http://nedlamont.com/ . Can’t find any video for last night on you tube though.

]]> By: mui1 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/29/the-straight-talker-er/#comment-1467887 mui1 Thu, 29 May 2008 15:26:55 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/29/the-straight-talker-er/#comment-1467887 <p>Howdy Demi, rock on girl! (can we call ourselves girls?)</p> Howdy Demi, rock on girl! (can we call ourselves girls?)

]]> By: mui1 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/29/the-straight-talker-er/#comment-1467881 mui1 Thu, 29 May 2008 15:19:26 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/29/the-straight-talker-er/#comment-1467881 <p>Yes, I think my eyes glazed over and the brain went kapooey when Sirota repeated/paraphrased some Lou Dobbsian/Buchanen inflammatory statements about the Chinese . . . . *crickets* . . . and then went on to talk of the value of politically exploiting those messages for a good thing like fair trade. I would suggest that Sirota try and restate that in a way that doesn’t push the defensive reflex buttons, especially in front of an even more mixed crowd.<br /> But do try and see a Spazeboy video in a youtube theater near you, because whatever emotions I was having probably colored my perception, just a tad.</p> Yes, I think my eyes glazed over and the brain went kapooey when Sirota repeated/paraphrased some Lou Dobbsian/Buchanen inflammatory statements about the Chinese . . . . *crickets* . . . and then went on to talk of the value of politically exploiting those messages for a good thing like fair trade. I would suggest that Sirota try and restate that in a way that doesn’t push the defensive reflex buttons, especially in front of an even more mixed crowd.
But do try and see a Spazeboy video in a youtube theater near you, because whatever emotions I was having probably colored my perception, just a tad.

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/29/the-straight-talker-er/#comment-1467855 selise Thu, 29 May 2008 15:08:03 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/29/the-straight-talker-er/#comment-1467855 <p>thanks mui! i appreciate your perspective and will also look to see if spazeboy posts the vid. </p> <p>ah, those were the days - to have a semi-reasonable candidate running an insurgent anti-war campaign against one of the biggest warmongers. and a bunch of dfh and rapid local bloggers having a great time…. sigh.</p> thanks mui! i appreciate your perspective and will also look to see if spazeboy posts the vid.

ah, those were the days – to have a semi-reasonable candidate running an insurgent anti-war campaign against one of the biggest warmongers. and a bunch of dfh and rapid local bloggers having a great time…. sigh.

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/29/the-straight-talker-er/#comment-1467849 selise Thu, 29 May 2008 15:04:32 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/29/the-straight-talker-er/#comment-1467849 <p>i already watched (or listened to) alot of both hearings that day. iirc, clinton did pretty good in the morning armed services committee hearing, but i don’t remember obama - which makes me think i must have missed that bit.</p> i already watched (or listened to) alot of both hearings that day. iirc, clinton did pretty good in the morning armed services committee hearing, but i don’t remember obama – which makes me think i must have missed that bit.

]]> By: mui1 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/29/the-straight-talker-er/#comment-1467844 mui1 Thu, 29 May 2008 15:03:17 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/29/the-straight-talker-er/#comment-1467844 <p>Oh Selise, I think Spazeboy filmed the discussion. So if he uploads online. Maybe you can get a more accurate picture. Keeping in mind, we are all creatures of perception, myself included.</p> Oh Selise, I think Spazeboy filmed the discussion. So if he uploads online. Maybe you can get a more accurate picture. Keeping in mind, we are all creatures of perception, myself included.

]]> By: wangdangdoodle http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/29/the-straight-talker-er/#comment-1467830 wangdangdoodle Thu, 29 May 2008 14:53:25 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/29/the-straight-talker-er/#comment-1467830 <p>Thanks, selise!</p> Thanks, selise!

]]> By: mui1 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/29/the-straight-talker-er/#comment-1467820 mui1 Thu, 29 May 2008 14:48:24 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/29/the-straight-talker-er/#comment-1467820 <p>Ned Lamont sees pretty relaxed, down to earth and peppy. Actually more so than during the campaign. He’s involved with a central ct political project, and other things that escape me for the moment. It’s weird because I think David Sirota seems more going toward insiderishness than Lamont. The crowd, you can guess, you know them I am sure, even if you don’t know them personally: Tom Swan was there, citizens action group, old supporters. Sirota was politely >well-received. I think he made some glib jokes about the primary, that made some of us roll our eyes, rather than laugh on cue. That stuff gets tired. I don’t know how used to speaking Sirota is though. I like his work, so I am on his side. So I feel the need to be critical. I think the crowd was also taken aback when he compared popular uprisings (was it minutemen? Also Lou Dobbs lovers) on the right to popular uprisings on the progressive side. He needs to hash that out better in speaking like I noticed he does in his book (as I am browsingbefore cutting my teeth). Sirota said (my paraphrase, which may not be completely accurate): it wasn’t bad for progressives to try and speak the same language as the Lou Dobbs and the Pat Buchanan crowd, er. . . not being xenophobic persay, but putting up with or using xenophobic anger as Bernie Sanders did in an appearance with Pat Buchanen(who called Chinese dirty dogs), to push the idea of fair trade, or something like that. You can imagine how appalled I was when Sirota paraphrased Buchanens comments about the Chinese. I have issues with that to say the least. I have issues with Lou Dobbs.<br /> I noticed the style of the book is more mainstreamy journalistic than Hostile Takeover. I am trying not to be put off by that. All and all I recommend the book, because it promises to be good.<br /> I had David Sirota sign a copy for my mother: it said ” (my mother’s name), join the uprising.” I think she’ll be tickled, since she’s a secret Dennis Kucinich fan.</p> Ned Lamont sees pretty relaxed, down to earth and peppy. Actually more so than during the campaign. He’s involved with a central ct political project, and other things that escape me for the moment. It’s weird because I think David Sirota seems more going toward insiderishness than Lamont. The crowd, you can guess, you know them I am sure, even if you don’t know them personally: Tom Swan was there, citizens action group, old supporters. Sirota was politely >well-received. I think he made some glib jokes about the primary, that made some of us roll our eyes, rather than laugh on cue. That stuff gets tired. I don’t know how used to speaking Sirota is though. I like his work, so I am on his side. So I feel the need to be critical. I think the crowd was also taken aback when he compared popular uprisings (was it minutemen? Also Lou Dobbs lovers) on the right to popular uprisings on the progressive side. He needs to hash that out better in speaking like I noticed he does in his book (as I am browsingbefore cutting my teeth). Sirota said (my paraphrase, which may not be completely accurate): it wasn’t bad for progressives to try and speak the same language as the Lou Dobbs and the Pat Buchanan crowd, er. . . not being xenophobic persay, but putting up with or using xenophobic anger as Bernie Sanders did in an appearance with Pat Buchanen(who called Chinese dirty dogs), to push the idea of fair trade, or something like that. You can imagine how appalled I was when Sirota paraphrased Buchanens comments about the Chinese. I have issues with that to say the least. I have issues with Lou Dobbs.
I noticed the style of the book is more mainstreamy journalistic than Hostile Takeover. I am trying not to be put off by that. All and all I recommend the book, because it promises to be good.
I had David Sirota sign a copy for my mother: it said ” (my mother’s name), join the uprising.” I think she’ll be tickled, since she’s a secret Dennis Kucinich fan.

]]> By: Petrocelli http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/29/the-straight-talker-er/#comment-1467818 Petrocelli Thu, 29 May 2008 14:47:07 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/29/the-straight-talker-er/#comment-1467818 <p>It’s the one where Barack is on the committee … sorry, hands doing 3 things at once, so am unable to look for it …</p> It’s the one where Barack is on the committee … sorry, hands doing 3 things at once, so am unable to look for it …

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