You’ve got to love how easily conservatives jerk their knees and point their fingers at liberals, labeling them appeasers and traitors, when the reality of historical fact paints quite the opposite picture. From the defenders of slavery who formed the Confederacy to Henry Ford, the America First Committee, and ever onward, the record of cultural conservatives who have readily dispensed with America’s interests — especially the preservation of its democratic institutions — in favor of their own (usually moneyed) interests is as long as it is disgraceful.
When Preznit Bush the other week attacked Barack Obama (and by extension, liberals generally) as being like the appeasers of the Nazis before World War II, there was of course no small irony, considering that Bush’s own grandfather had built a chunk of the family fortune out of business dealings with the Nazis, helping ship large sums of American capital to Germany as the Nazis built their war machine in the 1930s. But the larger irony, perhaps, lay in the fact that a number of notable Republicans, movement conservative icons, continue to argue that it was a mistake not to appease Nazi Germany — and that America’s participation in World War II was a mistake.
The most prominent of these, of course, is Pat Buchanan.
Buchanan has for some years promoted the theory that the U.S. and Britain should have just let Hitler have his way — essentially letting the far right wipe out leftist movements regardless of the criminal methods employed and with little concern about collateral civilian deaths — because he would have let white English speakers go unmolested.
Apparently Buchanan has a new book in the works along these lines titled Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War: How Britain Lost Its Empire and the West Lost the World, and he was on CNN last night promoting it. It was something to behold:
BLITZER: You make the case there would have been no Hitler, there would have been no World War II, there would have been no holocaust albeit in effect for Winston Churchill. What’s the point?
BUCHANAN: Well the point of this is obviously Hitler came out of World War I and the tearing apart of Germany but what I am saying is, had Britain not given an insane war guarantee to Poland and then go on the war on behalf of a Poland it could not save, I don’t think there would have been any war in Europe. I don’t think there would have been a war against the western democracy. At the very least, all the Jews of Western Europe would have survived. That’s basically one of the cases we make.
What’s that again? The Jews would have survived had not Britain taken up Poland’s side? Even though Kristallnacht — a systematic, state-approved series of violent pogroms in which — had already taken place, in 1938, well before the British announced their pact with Poland (which was signed in September 1939)?It’s useful, perhaps, to review some of the facts of that event:
The pogrom proved especially destructive in Berlin and Vienna, home to the two largest Jewish communities in the German Reich. Mobs of SA men roamed the streets, attacking Jews in their houses and forcing Jews they encountered to perform acts of public humiliation. Although murder did not figure in the central directives, Kristallnacht claimed the lives of at least 91 Jews between 9 and 10 November. Police records of the period document a high number of rapes and of suicides in the aftermath of the violence.
As the pogrom spread, units of the SS and Gestapo (Secret State Police), following Heydrich’s instructions, arrested up to 30,000 Jewish males, and transferred most of them from local prisons to Dachau, Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen, and other concentration camps. Significantly, Kristallnacht marks the first instance in which the Nazi regime incarcerated Jews on a massive scale simply on the basis of their ethnicity. Hundreds died in the camps as a result of the brutal treatment they endured; most obtained release over the next three months on the condition that they begin the process of emigration from Germany. Indeed, the effects of Kristallnacht would serve as a spur to the emigration of Jews from Germany in the months to come.
… The events of Kristallnacht represented one of the most important turning points in National Socialist antisemitic policy. Historians have noted that after the pogrom, anti-Jewish policy was concentrated more and more concretely into the hands of the SS. Moreover, the passivity with which most German civilians responded to the violence signaled to the Nazi regime that the German public was prepared for more radical measures. The Nazi regime expanded and radicalized measures aimed at removing Jews entirely from German economic and social life in the forthcoming years, moving eventually towards policies of forced emigration, and finally towards the realization of a Germany “free of Jews” (judenrein) by deportation of the Jewish population “to the East.”
Thus, Kristallnacht figures as an essential turning point in Nazi Germany’s persecution of Jews, which culminated in the attempt to annihilate the European Jews.
So how does Buchanan justify his bizarre theory? Blitzer tried to pin him down on this:
BLITZER: Let me get back to the book now because we’re almost out of time. I want you to explain the notion that you have that Hitler would have never come to power, there would have been anti-Semitism, to be sure, but there wouldn’t have been the extermination of 6 million Jews. Because that’s going to cause a lot of controversy, this notion you have that, in effect, Churchill was responsible for the chain of events that led to the Holocaust.
BUCHANAN: Churchill was not — Chamberlain made the decision to give the war guarantee to Poland.
Here’s my view, Wolf. I’ve read and studied Hitler. One thing he did not want was war with the British Empire. He admired it. He respected it. He never wanted war with it. He wanted to make an ally of it. Had Chamberlain at the goading of Churchill not given a war guarantee to Poland, Britain would not have had to go to war on behalf of Poland. It’s because Britain declared on Germany that Germany came west. That’s the reason Germany had basically hostages of everybody in Western Europe from the —
BLITZER: Hitler had plans of exterminating the Jews in the ’30s, a lot earlier.
BUCHANAN: Wolf, I have not seen any plans of extermination. Hitler went genocidal after the invasion of Russia was broken down in Russia, after he declared war on the United States, and he was looking to defeat in the face. It was at that point that the conference was held, Wolf. As you know, that was in January of 1942.
BLITZER: What about all the anti-Semitic laws, all those Jews who were rounded up starting in the 30s in Germany?
BUCHANAN: Look, there’s no doubt Hitler was anti-Semitic from the time even before he wrote camp. What we’re talking about, when you mention the Holocaust, for heaven sakes, is genocide. You’re not talking about anti-Semitism. It was anti-Semitism in Poland in those years. There’s no doubt that Nuremburg laws were in 1935. They were dreadful. As a consequence, half the Jews had left Germany before November 1938. Another half fled after that. They were outside Germany with the curtain fell.
What Hitler did was a monstrous crime, Wolf. It was a war crime. Had there been no war, there would have been no holocaust in my judgment.
So, according to Buchanan, Hitler’s treatment of the Jews did not turn murderous until the Wannsee Conference of 1942. The years of the Brownshirts’ murderous thuggery and Kristallnacht which well preceded this event, evidently, were just harmless meanie stuff.
Of course, Buchanan has been making essentially this case for some years. In a 1977 column, he wrote:
Though Hitler was indeed racist and anti-Semitic to the core, a man who without compunction could commit murder and genocide, he was also an individual of great courage, a soldier’s soldier in the Great War, a political organizer of the first rank, a leader steeped in the history of Europe, who possessed oratorical powers that could awe even those who despised him…Hitler’s success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood in his path.
He also has indulged in certain kinds of Holocaust denial:
Writing of "group fantasies of martyrdom," Buchanan challenged the historical record that thousands of Jews were gassed to death by diesel exhaust at Treblinka: "Diesel engines do not emit enough carbon monoxide to kill anybody." (New Republic, 10/22/90) Buchanan’s columns have run in the Liberty Lobby’s Spotlight, the German-American National PAC newsletter and other publications that claim Nazi death camps are a Zionist concoction.
[More on Buchanan's indulgence in Holocaust denial here.]
He made the biggest splash in this regard back in 1999, when he was gearing up to run for the presidency on the Reform Party ticket. His book A Republic, Not an Empire made essentially the same case. And at the time, historian Robert Dallek delivered what should have been the definitive spanking:
It’s a seductive but wholly unpersuasive fantasy. Among Buchanan’s many misjudgments on the events of World War II, none is as serious as his failure to understand the dynamic of the Hitler-Nazi regime. Had Hitler defeated Soviet Russia, it would have been an inducement to further expansion. Hitler’s Thousand Year Reich was built on fierce nationalism and militarism. His regime needed enemies and constant military challenges to survive and flourish.
After Russia, he would have turned his military machine back against the West. And it would have been a West even less able to meet the threat than in 1939-1940. The decision to guarantee Polish security had as much to do with stiffening British resolve to meet Hitler’s threat as with saving Poland from German conquest. A Britain assuming Hitler would confine himself to Eastern conquests would have been a nation as enthralled in 1939-1940 by the appeasement psychology as that which immobilized it in 1938.
As for the United States, Buchanan thinks that after Britain successfully resisted Hitler’s air assault in the fall of 1940, "Germany posed no strategic threat to the United States." Buchanan means by this that Hitler would not have been able to invade the United States: hardly a revelation to historians or to Franklin Roosevelt and his political and military chiefs in 1940.
The issue was not whether Hitler had the wherewithal to land forces in the United States, but the many other ways in which he directly threatened our national security. Roosevelt justifiably worried about the penetration of Nazi influence in Latin America and potential dangers to the Panama Canal. And what about Nazi challenges to dominance of the Atlantic sea lanes? Buchanan all too casually passes over the U-boat menace, which could not be contained until 1943.
Buchanan has forgotten FDR’s compelling June 1940 speech at Charlottesville, where he warned against the isolationist "delusion" of America as "a lone island in a world dominated by force." Roosevelt predicted that a Nazi-dominated Europe would create for America a "nightmare of a people lodged in prison, handcuffed, hungry, and fed through the bars from day to day by contemptuous unpitying masters of other continents."
Buchanan entirely overlooks how difficult it would have been to maintain our democratic institutions in a world of hostile totalitarian regimes.
And what about Hitler’s potential to build an atomic bomb? By 1940 Roosevelt had taken heed of Albert Einstein’s warning about Germany’s capacity to develop such a weapon and America’s need to launch a crash program to beat the Germans to the punch. Can anyone with the slightest familiarity with Hitler’s ruthless indifference to civilized standards of behavior doubt that a Nazi Germany armed with atomic weapons would have been ready — indeed, even eager — to use them against Britain and the United States? And would a president who strictly adhered to isolationism in response to the European conflict even have considered building a bomb?
Buchanan has nothing to say about what a Hitler victory over Soviet Russia might have meant to Britain and the United States in the Pacific, where Japan, Hitler’s ally, would hardly have given a passive response to German victories in Europe. And what about the Jews of Eastern Europe and Russia?
Ah, but in Buchanan’s view, that would have been a price worth paying just so Hitler and Stalin could have gone head-to-head and rubbed each other out. Collateral damage, you know, is a small price to pay for big ideological victories.
Buchanan did not slow down after 1999. He has continually spouted this nonsense, including in a 2005 column and more recently in a TownHall piece attacking Bush for misunderstanding poor Hitler.
The funny thing is that, in spite of all this — as well as his continuing demonstration of overt racism, both in talking about black people as well as in his discussions of immigration and what he calls the "invasion" of America by Latinos, complete with texts that use white supremacists as though they were credible sources, and his fretting about the "passing of the white race" — Buchanan continues to enjoy an honored spot on cable-news broadcasts around the dial: on CNN, on MSNBC, on Fox.
No one in the broadcasting business, or within the ranks of journalism generally, seems the least bit bothered by Pitchfork Pat’s increasingly overt racism, anti-Semitism, and downright kookery. They keep looking up to him as some kind of conservative sage, and they keep inviting him onto their shows (lately he’s been talking about Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama almost exclusively within the context of the "white vote") as though he were worthy of not just their airtime but their abiding respect.
That’s another kind of appeasement. But you won’t find anyone within the media, let alone in the ranks of movement conservatism, much bothered by it.



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speaking about appeasers, check this out from matlin when she’s asked about mcclellans expose that the president died us into war and revealed the name of our covert operation “brewster jennings and associates” including the names of operatives, she is one friggin tool, this qoute is gleamed from think progress
Mary Matalin: I don’t care, like Newt, I don’t really care to analyze this kind of betrayal.
take a look at my bold, this maggot actually thinks it’s “betrayal” to inform America there is a traitor in the white house
she calls mcclellan’s info the betrayal and not the president’s depravity!
we really need to jump down this womens throat for being a traitor herself with a statement like that
Isn’t their a retirement home for the likes of Pat.
Isn’t that what Paraguay is for?
Buchanan is stuck in the 1950s Ozzie and Harriet land
Of course the US and Britain DID pretty much let Hitler go after Stalin with everything he had- while supplying some arms but no troops. It was only when the Russians had Hitler on the run that Churchill and Roosevelt decided that they had better form a western front or Stalin would own the continent….
So- in a way- Buchanan is trackin with history- he just misremembers it.
Jeez! Pat has lost all hold on reality. F*cking insane! Dachau was before 1939, so Hilter was ramping up. Revisionismis not the word here.
From Wikipedia:
Goopers have trouble holding two beliefs together at the same time- like –McClellan is sayin all this shit now in order to make a quick buck (which is probably true) and what he is sayin is probably true….
In gooper land- one can’t both be a sellout and speak the truth- but in the real world it happens every day.
already left this link on orcinus, thx very much dave, but, speaking of right wing nut jobs…time to stop buying the donuts!
Yup and you’d better be ready for Bush and his pals on Radio Paraguay going on and on about how the Liberals are screwin’ Murkkka.
Look, Buchanan has finally lost his mind. I do believe he’ll find it a lot harder to suck up TeeBee appearances once he’s told America that….
‘Defeating Hitler was a Liberal Plot to Put Fluoride in Your Water!’
Yeah, right….I just don’t see Pat selling a lot of books with this approach. Ya know? I, as a Boome…like most male Boomers I’d bet, spent most of my pre-teen years killing Nazi’s to prevent them from taking us over and doing…..
Bad Things!
The old bastard has finally gone…
..the one step too far.
It is logically impossible for me to stop buying those donuts- I have never bought em in the first place.
In gooper land- one can’t both be a sellout and speak the truth- but in the real world it happens every day.
I’ve yet to hear anyone in the administration deny the substance of Scotty’s claims… – they’re justing attacking him personally. And so is the poor beleaguered media (who were trying, by god, they were doin’ their very best, honest!)
Buchanan continues to enjoy an honored spot on cable-news broadcasts around the dial: on CNN, on MSNBC, on Fox.
Anybody want to put 20 bucks that not a single one of those networks will can him based on this insanity?
Same here, but I’d sure like to get a Rachel Ray scarf!
What about the Cossacks, could Churchill have prevented their continued abuse, murder and persecution as well? because they were still happily rounding up Jews through 1945.
This is why you never try to understand Buchanan, you just point at his idiocy and let him slink back into his cave.
you just point at his idiocy and let him slink back into his cave.
you mean like Lawrence O’Donnell did last night on Abrams? He hammered home a couple of torpedoes below the water line – I was hoping for a full-out war, but Buchanan just laughed (being as how he’s nuts and all).
Digg this
True Believers will buy Pat’s book and take it as gospel. sigh.
I cannot stand the fact that the Loyal Bushies are taking one of the most egregious times in history and instead of learning from it and being informed by it, they use it to tar those who would be informed, who don’t forget, who do grasp the seriousness, gravity, and enormity of what Bush’s “grand legacy” would mean for thousands upon thousands of ######## people.
I really cannot stand the fact that we lazily let it all go by. Adding fuel to my fire are the cozy “journalists” who haven’t a care in the world what happens. Just give ‘em dirty laundry and keep ‘em on the air.
On top of being batshit crazy, Buchanan does not speak; he brays.
1. I believe the treaty with Poland was 50 years old at the start of WW II
2. There is no way Chamberlain did anything at Churchill’s urging, in the ’30s the Chamberlain Cabinet though Churchill was a loony.
3. The reason for Chamberlain’s trip to Germany and the partition of Checkslovakia was because the leaders in Britain feared a repeat of WW I.
4. The same reasoning lead to the Pétain surrender of France and Vichy France.
Scott McClellan and John Dean on KO? Someone was wishing for exactly this today. Who was it?
The tooth fairy.
Sorry for the early off topic, but google-bombs are fun!
Well I for one am shocked! I had no idea McCain did not support a woman’s right to choose.
Did you know McCain’s campaign is run almost entirely by lobbyists?
Even though McCain has enjoyed evil socialized medicine his entire life, he voted against expanding health care for poor kids.
McCain wants to stay in Iraq for a 100 years? Crazy piece – o – crap!
McCain supports the troops so much, he doesn’t want them to have any other options than the military. It is shameful that he was one of the few to vote against education benefits for out troops.
You had to use google to figure that out?
Dugg.
Just following Jane’s suggestion here is all.
The Einsatzgruppen were killing Jews from day one of Operation Barbarossa. And the reason why it took that long to get the machinery rolling was that they had to provide the careful psychological framework necessary for SS troops to kill massive numbers of people for no reason. (See Eichmann in Jerusalem by Arendt.) The war provided an opportunity to exterminate Jews; there is no doubt that exterminating Jews was the plan all along, and Germany would have found some other opportunity to exterminate Jews if Britain did not declare war on Germany.
Nice job, dakine. This should be fun.
Chris Bowers describes it really well.
By linking the name McCain with links to specific articles, it increases the google ranking of those articles, thus affecting the information people get when googling John McCain.
The Google Bomb – ain’t these tubez great!
Yeah, anything that can help overcome TradMed and let folks know the Real John McCain and not the PR construct, I’m all for it.
strategerie huh?
Oh, ok, now I get it. Genocide and anti-semitism are mutually exclusive.
Thus, if we target and kill people of other races, it’s not racism so long as we do it in large enough numbers. A simple quantitative distinction. I hope that nice Mr Buchanan has made arrangements to preserve his brain after death.
C’mon, you’re not up for something that fecks with TradMed and the Beltway insider wisdom?
I’m on it like a duck on a june bug.
Although I though ya’ll goofballs were talking about traditional medicine!
Traditional Media (my preferred name since the crap they spout is not Main Stream by any stretch)
You’re right. Here’s a useful reminder from Goldhagen’s Hitler’s Willing Executioners [p. 142]:
And of course, as we know now, it was Hitler who intended to provoke that war all along — and he essentially intended to annihilate the Jews by provoking that war.
no kidding! “Traditional” sums it up QUITE nicely and is far more on target than “mainstream”.
Completely OT, but hmmmm,
WASHINGTON – U.S. authorities are investigating whether Chinese officials secretly copied the contents of a government laptop computer during a visit to China by Commerce Secretary Carlos M. Gutierrez and used the information to try to hack into Commerce computers, officials and industry experts told The Associated Press.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..na_hacking
This is from may 15
‘A server problem at the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) has knocked the secretive intelligence agency off the Internet. The website nsa.gov was unreachable because of a problem with the NSA’s DNS servers which are used to translate things like the Web addresses typed into machine-readable IP addresses that computers use to find each other on the Internet. The website was unresponsive at 10 a.m. EDT Thursday and continued to be unavailable throughout the day for Internet users. The agency’s two authoritative DNS servers were unreachable also this morning.’
http://cyberinsecure.com/nsa-g…..ns-glitch/
Buchanan’s logic is the same one that led the Bush Administration to realize that if al Qaeda was in Afghanistan they needed to invade Iraq.
OT the NYMEX crude oil near future contract closed at $126.40/bbl and the Cushing spot at $126.62. Because of Memorial Day, the weekly EIA supply numbers came out today instead of Wednesday, its usual date. Anyway crude oil stocks declined by a whopping 8.9 million bbls. That makes a drop of 14.2 million bbls in the last 2 weeks. That is a huge decline. Gasoline inventories fell last week 3.3 million bbls, also a significant decrease.
Now what does this mean? Well if supply and demand factors were driving the market, these big declines today should have sent prices through the roof today but in fact the reverse happened. Why? Because the markets are being driven by speculative plays not supply and demand.
Little Chinese demonstration perhaps?
wtf?????
And here I was finding Buchanan sounding almost sensible lately — how naive of me to think he could have changed.
As it happens, I just finished reading a book on the Nuremberg trial; lots of verbatim quotes from documents and testimony that make it perfectly clear Hitler always intended to get rid of the Jews, and the decision to kill them, not deport them, was made quite early.
And even more clearly he intended to start wars to take over Europe and throw out the “inferior race” inhabitants to make more room for the German people, FROM THE BEGINNING!
If I thought it was necessary to persuade folks here the cites are easy to get. Obviously, Buchanan is more self-deluded than I thought. There are MILLIONS of pages of documents that refute every damn thing PB says.
He’s a bad man, but I hadn’t known he was a holocaust denier, too. Diesel can’t kill anyone.
Would Pat like to demonstrate that by being locked in a diesel truck and driven 20 or 30 miles, with the exhaust turned inside for him to breathe?
I say again…WTF!!!!!
Buchanan has been off his rocker for a long time! People tolerate an affable lunatic in a controlled setting, especially when he is positioned to look like he is actually authoritative. But I must agree with you, the man is obviously a dipshit.
I can’t disagree with this.
New PW
What do you expect from someone who speaks more highly of Hitler than he does of FDR.
Mr. Buchanan is all dust jacket and no book. His ignorance approaches Jonah Goldberg levels, his claims about Churchill are defamatory.
Scapegoating Jews was a principal attribute of Hitler’s regime from its inception. He implemented anti-Jewish laws immediately on coming to power. Had other European countries continued to give Hitler what he wanted, he would have understood that as a license to demand more. He would have. At some point, he would have exterminated the Jews regardless, and then found another “other” against which to defined and unify die Volk.
Buchanan contends that Hitler went “ballistic” regarding the Jews, intended to exterminate them, only after his invasion of Russia bogged down. He is incorrect, so much so that he risks being deemed a Holocaust denier.
Special units had already been formed and had accompanied the Wehrmacht’s invasion of Poland in 1939. Hitler didn’t go ballistic after 1942; his methods of extermination became more efficient. The Wannsee Conference didn’t mention “exterminating Jews”, a phrase Buchanan seems to have been looking for but couldn’t find. The Conference minutes did mention “solutions” to the “Jewish problem”. I can only presume that such bureaucratic euphemisms were too nuanced for Buchanan to comprehend, an odd limitation for someone so adept at using Bush administration euphemisms for “success” in Iraq.
The historical parlor game of “Could we have stopped Hitler had we done X?” is never ending. It’s usually about whether forcibly resisting Hitler earlier would have prevented all out war and ultimately, the Holocaust. When Hitler re-militarized the Rhineland in 1936? When he demanded the Sudetenland from the Czechs in 1938?
Buchanan turns that on its head and argues that continuing to give in to Hitler would have prevented his excesses. That may be music to Bush’s ears, but it’s a historically and psychologically empty argument. Why is Buchanan making it? One has to wonder if he’s not tilling the soil to make it easier for the GOP to plant its own revisionist histories about Bush’s “success” in the Middle East. “Histories” that claim the Democrats’ snatched defeat from the jaws of that success, and which explain our continuing troubles, including why we may soon pay $10/gallon for gasoline.
If one views the extermination of the Jews as their primary goal, then by that measure they WON. Of course, they destroyed themselves to achieve that “victory”.
I think Buchanan admires that kind of purity of ideology and that was one reason he admired Nixon and the “Southern Strategy”.
Viewed in terms of the Bush administration one can only expect Buchanan to admire Bush for using whatever means he needed (like Hitler starting WWII Bush started the war on Iraq) to achieve whatever the primary goal is. Of course, we don’t really know there is only one primary goal for Bush.
The fact Buchanan remains on t.v. after all his craziness just shows how depraved the commercial media have become and how far they’ll go to manipulate (or brainwash if you like) the public.
It’s getting harder for the media to tell lies under the guise of the ‘evening news’ and it’s getting harder for politicians like Bush to continue their crap without the public (at least those of us who want to know what’s going on) knowing and responding.
It’s hard to read Buchanan’s ahistorical history as anything but an allegory for George Bush. It certainly doesn’t describe Hitler, the figure Buchanan claims to have researched. It doesn’t describe the probable consequences of continuing to appease him after he blitzkrieged his way over Poland.
Indulging him for a moment, Buchanan’s is a recipe for German domination of all of Europe. Is that what he still wishes had happened after Bush’s needless invasion of Iraq? A US dominated Middle East, with all comers as supplicants for “our” oil? That would have required the improbable alignment of many more dominoes than just the competent occupation of Iraq, a single domino beyond the talent of this and probably any administration.
Buchanan’s recipe of not responding to Hitler except by appeasing him may be a neocon’s whet dream of responses to the Bush administration’s wars of aggression. It’s as unlikely as not responding to Hitler other than for all to have given in. Hitler would not have been satiated with Poland, any more than he was satiated with the Rhineland or the Sudetenland. If allowed to consolidate his old over western Europe, the UK included, Hitler would still have attacked Russia. Under those circumstances, he might have defeated Stalin. What then? Whatever. It’s all unprovable, as Buchanan knows.
Why does Buchanan engage in this pseudo-academic exercise? Is he gratifying his famously large ego? Is this a distraction from a critical examination of Bush’s failures? Or is it to demonstrate that “history” is as malleable in the hands of the Right as the reality this White House once thought it could invent and bend to its will?
This partial description of the accumulation of authority by Hitler’s SS, by the US Holocaust Memorial Museum, seems applicable to more than one government:
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/artic…..d=10007400
It’s what the neocons do best – rewrite history.
David Gregory said the other day re reporting on lead up to the war, “Were we supposed to debate the administration?”
Of course not, you were supposed to do, for starters, minimal investigative journalism, analyze it and comment on it in your articles.
I don’t know what they’re teaching in college journalism classes anymore, but Pat Buchanan seems to be an example of what can happen when Jesuits teach history.
David Niewert:
Your first error in this post is calling Buchanan a “conservative” and lumping him in with the rest of the neocon Republican party. Call him something like a “paleo” and an isolationist and recognize that he opposed the war in word and deed as much as anyone in 2002-2003.
This enough should make his historical apostasy forgiveable.
There’s another thing that makes his contrarian softness on fascists tolerable to me on an emotional level. Given the neocon and the establishment version of WWII generally you’d think the U.S. had successfully brought a halt to the holocaust, whereas the holocaust was effectively successful; our involvement in WWII is trotted out as a proof of our martial prowess (rather than our industrial and economic prowess) and selflessness, a model for other liberations we’re all familiar with by now. There’s a legitimate argument to be made (better by historians than paleopundits, admittedly) that a two-front war in Europe was a necessary condition for the holocaust, as it closed off avenues for merely ethnically cleansing European Jews from Reich territory. (I suspect Buchanan cribs from esteemed contrarian A.J.P. Taylor in the way he views the start of WWII). Meanwhile, the notion that Hitler would have left the British Empire intact is not merely not a contrarian belief, but probably the prevailing one.
Buchanan may be a bigot, but his paleocon isolationism is far less of a threat to our country than the decorous warmongering of others, even ostensible liberals, who still rule our discourse. There’s a tradeoff between his bigotry and an anti-war voice, even a tainted one. I’ll defend him for opposing the war before I ever condemn him for his prejudices and amateur forays into history.
Keep your eye on the ball: the war is the only issue.