How exactly does John McCain answer the question of what he’s doing handling Phil Gramm’s Enron and UBS baggage in exchange for highly dubious economic advice? Is this what we could expect McCain to foist on the rest of the country — a man who helped run energy and banking policy in the ground while he and his family pocketed millions?
Is this the ethical distance from lobbyists McCain trumpted while using the UBS lobbyist Gramm for banking and economic policy crafting advice? Using a lobbyist and officer of a troubled bank to craft banking policy in which it has an interest while, at the same time, using him to stump for you on the campaign trail? Does the word "self-dealing" come to mind for you, too?
Do you recall that UBS Bank — the bank for which former Sen. Phil Gramm works as a vice president and lobbyied for until April 18, 2008, while simultaneously serving as a senior economic adviser to John McCain — bought out Enron’s energy mess? (H/T to reader Again for the reminder.) Did you know that Phil Gramm’s wife Wendy was a director at Enron — and was responsible for overseeing "audits," if I may be so bold as to even call them that — while there? Cozy.
But wait, there’s more:
While former US Senator Phil Gramm’s wife, Wendy Gramm was a member of Enron’s audit committee, and also serving on the company’s of the Board of Directors, UBS was a consultant for the State of California in 2002 to help fix the State’s energy crisis.
The Foundation for Taxpayer and Consumer Rights (FTCR) wanted Governor Gray Davis to fire UBS, saying the company had a conflict of interest since they represented both the State of California and Enron. Read Article
Senator Gramm defended Enron, and basically told California that the state’s energy problems were of their own making.
Shortly after, Enron went bankrupt, and Gramm resigned taking a job with UBS Warburg as a Vice President.
After Enron went bankrupt, UBS Warburg bought Enron’s energy trading operations. UBS PaineWebber which is a subsidiary of UBS Warburg, was in charge of Enron’s employee stock option program.
And even more:
In 2000 those terms were known only to a small circle of investment bankers and brokers who created and traded the complex financial instruments they describe. They are familiar today because the unregulated trading of them had a great deal to do with the near-death experience of the Bear Stearns investment bank, which was only avoided when the Federal Reserve provided JPMorgan Chase with $30 billion in backing to acquire Bear Stearns and avoid the international financial disaster that would have followed the bankruptcy of a large investment bank.
The current economic crisis is not the first one made possible by Phil Gramm’s commodity futures act. Gramm’s wife, Wendy, served on the Commodity Futures Trading Commission from 1983 to 1993. As a commissioner, she helped develop many of the trading rules her husband turned into law in 2000. When Mrs. Gramm left the commission, she joined the corporate board of Enron, when the Texas-based gas-pipeline company was reinventing itself as a commodities trading combine, with its own "trading floor" in Houston. In his book Pipe Dreams, Robert Bryce describes Enron’s on-line commodities trading, which could not have developed as it did without a key provision in Senator Gramm’s commodities futures act.
The "Enron exception" that Senator Gramm included in the act protected all on-line derivatives from federal regulation, even when they were designed to defraud investors. It did seem like a conflict of interest that Senator Gramm was passing a law that would benefit his spouse, who was being paid by a corporation that would reap enormous benefits from its passage. And although the glaringly evident conflict was reported in some news outlets, the Gramms emerged unscathed from the situation.
Enron, on the other hand, didn’t do so well. Enron board chair Ken Lay is dead, even if conspiracy theorists claim he is living under an assumed name in Vail, Colorado. Jeff Skilling is in prison, appealing his Enron-related convictions. And tens of thousands of Enron employees and investors saw their pensions disappear when the company collapsed. Today, Bear Stearns shareholders have been put in a similar position; shares worth $145 two weeks before the company’s collapse were acquired by JPMorgan for $10. But the Gramms are all right. When he is not advising John McCain, Phil Gramm is ensconced in the New York offices of UBS, where he is a vice chairman of the Swiss investment banking giant. On April 2, UBS announced that it had sustained $19 billion in losses, which were doubtless exacerbated by the deregulation that Gramm had pushed through Congress eight years earlier.
And a whole lot more interesting tidbits floating around just waiting to be asked and answered. Would that more in the media were actually asking them — and demanding full and complete answers. I know we’ll be following up on this…
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I knew McBush was filthy with lobbyist ties, but this is exceeding my expectations. I wonder if the angry one still maintains the self-image of paladin?
Hi Christy, missed ya.
Ken Lay for McCain
Jeeze!
Graham is a real snot ball.
Ya can’t wipe him off.
Gramm, wev’.
K.. and what exactly was this thug doing as a Sr Vice President at UBS? UBS has subprime mortgage writedowns totalling $19 billion to date, and is widely believed to be concealing/obfuscating on much more. So not only is he conflicted in his capacity as a sleazeball lobbyist for corporate welfare with regards to subprime CMO underwriters but he’s an utter failure as a banker. That sure qualifies him to advise on economic policy at a time when people’s number one economic concern is losing their homes to… mortgage lenders. Yep. Makes complete sense to me. Arseholes.
McCain is sort of honest- sometimes- mostly on friday afternoons- while havin a beer- in Georgetown- where the hot lady lawyers drink.
sorry for the early OT – Scotty’s gonna be on Olbermann tomorrow night.
Congressman Wexler just sent out an email , he would like to talk to Scottie too.
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAAAA.
See, it’s kind of like the Keating Five scandal, but “new and improved”.
Missed you Christy – glad to see you back.
Scotty to the White House:
“Well yeah- I DID say all that stuff- cause it’s my opinion. If ya want a second opinion- yer ugly too!”
BTW the network news shows on NBC and ABC led with the Scott McClellan story and his criticism of the media. ABC’s Charlie Gibson used the line, well, if he didn’t like it why didn’t he resign. Pure assholery. NBC was infinitely worse. They had Brian Williams do a long sit down interview with Tom Brokaw. To the why didn’t he resign, they added about Iraq: We all thought blah, blah, blah, if we had known then what we know now, blah, blah, blah, we weren’t the only ones, where were the politicians, blah, blah, blah. If their chairs had been wired to give them a shock every time they lied, they would have been jumping like fleas on a hot skillet (channeling Dan Rather here, I think *g*).
I have been waiting for big headlines on the “Phil Gramm is yet another lobbyist McCain didn’t know was a lobbyist when he sold American homeowners down the river” story.
And waiting.
Perhaps if McCain would claim to have been in the Union Army in the Civil War…
The Gramms shouldn’t be advising the McCain campaign — they should be in jail.
Ken Lay is alive.
Yeah—Brian Williams et al are just talin heads that READ what they’re told to read anyway…..It is funny as hell that they get treated like people who actually KNOW something…other than the phonetic alphabet.
Welcome home, Christy!
Enron was a ponzi scheme by design. The trading of electricity by crooks strained the grid at public expense. The rolling blackouts in California were caused by such activity. Gov Davis was ousted b/c he was dangerous to the game. Schwarzenegger made the energy crooks problems go away. Private, secret energy meetings conducted by the Darth Vader, Enron and Big Oil were a bad idea America.
His kin was on the OTHER side- fightin fer slave—-er state’s rights.
seriously?
on behalf of which Committee?
He tells the ladies that he is single and a widower.
And that he borrowed the hair from his dad in order to look more mature.
tap! tap!
Is this thing on?
Are we live again?
YAY Mods!!!!
That was scary.
Now, what was I going to say? oh, yea.
What kind of fuckery is this? Thuggery fuckery.
Gramm was a professor of economics at Texas A&M.
So. There you have it.
Aggie economists for McCain
Why doesn’t Old Lord McCain work from the “short list” and save everybody time and trouble: raise yer hand if you weren’t a lobbyist. The rest of you crooks, off the bus.
NOW
Empty bus?
John McCain loves lobbyists.
John McCain needs lobbyists.
Without the help of lobbyists, John McCain would not be able to function.
John McCain cannot sever his ties with all lobbyists.
If he did that, he would die.
Your back it was sooo lonley with out the Lake!
And where do we put them? In the…
Thuggery fuckery dock.
And Gramm’s apparently the leading candidate to be Treasury Secretary if McCain wins. You can’t make this shit up…
Welcome back, Christy!
wow, I thought i was banned for using the word “shriek” earlier. thanks for your tolerance y’all!
Yep. there is no more fiduciary responsibility in corporate america or government. zero. start stuffing the money in your mattress.
Dear God, this man is a fucking lunatic.
-G
Shaking my head rapidly.
No, no, no, no!.
Cognitive dissonance squared.
Yep.
I was going to say, wow these folks really are in bed together, but that doesn’t come close to how tied up they are. Now, I’m thinking of a long snake swallowing its tail.
Huge, huge story. Won’t this be headlines? Ramifications?
I have the highest contempt times infinity for anyone associated with the Enron pack of thieves.
Make. it. stop.
W?T?F?
btw, I don’t know why, but the pix I used for this post just cracks me up with it’s right-pointing arrow. *g*
Good lordy, what a friggin’ loon.
define the word “weren’t”
Wondering whether that photo was taken before or after the tap-dance recital…
Why does the word “dignity” come to mind? Probably because of the glaring lack of it, I guess. What a maroon.
There’s no question McBush is carrying a lot of baggage…
Oh! and welcome back christy! really missed ya!
Thanks all for the howdy, btw — we had a lovely vacation — it was our 15th wedding anniversary, so we took advantage of a professional meeting and stayed a couple of extra days to relax a bit — but it is awfully good to be back home, I have to say.
Oh, Christy! Another tidbit for you. UBS now afraid US-bound employees will be arrested. Some USG investigation or other must be bearing fruit — echoes of the BAE arrests at the Dallas airport. Signs of life at DoJ?
Is Ted Stevens messing with the toobz again? We have had a rather strange day at the Lake.
He didn’t chest-bump the Saudis. Or, did he? Hmmm.
(always an embarrassment to look at that man.)
(whispering…I remember a long while back some of us gals came up withe GW Diet. Put a creepy pic of him on the front of the fridge and ya won’t want to go near it. This picture would work.)
Oh yeah — I hit that in this morning’s McCain/Gramm post. There was an indictment of a UBS management employee due to information turned up in a pending SEC investigation…I posted a series of links on that in the comments. Hold on a sec and I’ll post a link to them…
There’s been a few hiccups and we’re trying to figure out why. Tech folks are on it…but suffice it to say, we’ve all been dealing with this since early this morning.
Hard to keep up, eh wot?
707!
Yep, that there’s yer supportin’-the-troopsss “president” right there.
Here we go — he is the link to this morning’s McCain/Gramm post, for folks who missed it. And here’s the link to the comment with the string of WSJ links on the USB investigation, including one to a PDF of an indictment therein.
Christy, can I make my Phil Gramm comment again? Please? Especially if I warn you first?
Phil Gramm should wear a body condom. The only thing that would make him look more like a tool would be if he only had one eye.
fav comment over at wonkette: “I’m beginning to think he’s against gay marriage because it reduces his odds.”
Yuk. Super Yuk.
Does the phrase “arrested development” enter anyone else’s mind every freaking time they see a photo of him? Because I swear he stopped maturing at the age of 13.
Ah yes, the man who thought that golfing was oh so disrespectful to the soldiers and their families.
A bloodsoaked buffoon.
-G
Thank you ma’am! Juicy. BTW, this isn’t related to the dead rich Turkish family in CA, is it?
((((( Christy )))))
How’s everyone tonight ?
…and while you’re down there reading this morning’s McCain/Gramm post, why don’t you Digg it, too!
I told ya not to use them Gramm Crackers as your techies, Christy. They’ll repossess the toobz, steal the good silverware, and leave alla youse fine folks selling matches to afford gruel.
Bush Distorts World War II History In Speech To Air Force Graduates
that old?
fit and fiddle petro
don’t forget to order your McCain banner on the previous thread.
My contribution: Little Jerks for McCain.
Why in the wide world were they so coy about not naming “the Swiss bank”, I wonder?
My fave: Turn around George…he forgets everytime.
In the indictment, I mean.
I found that odd as well. It’s not as though keeping it out of the docs doesn’t tip off the bank, since the guy was an employee…weird.
You could but no one would belive it.
Bin-Ladin’s For McCain!
Yeah…don’t forget Bush Boy told us again that the only way we’ll lose in Iraq is if we “lose our nerve”. I nearly puked in my car. The man is insane.
actually that could be alot of it.a school of thought,is that a child that suffers a bad childhood trauma,(his sisters secretive death) suffers arrested developement,at that very time…so he IS that young frightened child
I was laughing too hard to post my comment earlier … going now …
Keeping it murky to delay somebody inside the USG from realizing which bank it was, during the pre-unsealing phase?
young frightened children should not be allowed to play with dangerous weapons
Yale history major……..bwahahahahhaahahahhahaa
Yep — history of beer bongs…
he had HORRIBLE parents…we all suffer
watertiger has a couple more pics from the same presidential military manlove series.
http://www.dependablerenegade……_renegade/
The media don’t have time to ask the questions on this, they’re too busy doin’ CYA on their coddling and enabling of Team BushCo’s propaganda into Iraq.
Is there any evidence of UBS “playing” the oil (or food commodity) futures market lately? Maybe not all the old Enron trading schemes have been retired.
Indeed.
Brokaw on Nightly and Gregory on Hardball…two pathetic s-o-s’s. And no, I don’t mean “help.”
The vindication of Helen Thomas is the sorry spectacle of these bozos.
Oh lordy. First, it’s the Phil Gramm body condom. And now the “presidential military man love series.” Someone get me the brain bleach…stat. Because those are two men about which I do not want to think in any sexual way…evah…thank you very much. *g*
Keith is on this!
Keith Olbermann is doing a story on “John McCain’s Phil Gramm scandal” sometime during the next hour
leading with the Scott McClellan book, however
Maybe we should just call the McCain campaign – Phil Gramm cracker & the give me much much s’mores..
Gliewitz vs Iraq and Democratic Imperialism aka the “Iraq Oil Plot” Seems Scott M should submit and affidavit!!!
dirty dancing shrub style?
Brokaw on Nightly and Gregory on Hardball…two pathetic s-o-s’s
surely you’re not implying that they’re trying to weasel out of Scotty’s charges…
You’re back! I missed you people. ;-)
All the presidents men and women are “puzzled”.
LOL … KO showing Bush & his surrogates using the same words to denounce Scottie … of course, all will claim to be speaking off the cuff …
but but scott is disgruntled and possibly bitter?
I never suspected it, but perhaps he is an elitist
Not the scotty I knew
bitter, bitter, bitter.
All the presidents men and women are “puzzled”.
And have been for a long, long time. Nice to hear it publicly confirmed.
I haven’t seen as many press conferences as many of you but Scottie always seemed to be the one who was most uncomfortable with his role as Chief Prevaricator …
Raven, you still here?
How rare, how strange.
Time for Bifocals … I saw “Vitter, Vitter, Vitter” …
I think so, did you think I got 86d?
yet another book in the offing.
Larry Craig writes about the great attractions of the Minneapolis Airport
I used to call the former White House press secretary “Scotty McClueless.”
I no longer think that is appropriate. It turns out he had a lot of clues, he just wasn’t telling us about them…until he signed his book contract.
Spokesliar
lol.
The Bush Regime has destroyed hard drives, have told those around them that if they speak out against them they’ll make their lives a living hell, and have maintained the “executive privilege” stance on everything. Why? To protect themselves. Now why the hell would they want to make it so there is no evidence left to prove they’ve done anything or to keep those around them in fear of asking questions about what they’re doing? Because they’ve committed crimes. Crimes, crimes, crimes! Yep, crimes. They’re criminals, war criminals, criminals.
um,…
Anyway, are you the Raven @ Netroots who is redirecting NetRoots reservations to DFA for scholarships?
mercenaries. All of them.
Negative
sorry. *g*. i just can’t get over the look of intensity on his face as he, uhm, enthusiastically congratulates all the men in uniform.
Smedley Butler or Scott… Maybe Scott has greater respect for the Constitution, than his former employer or a simply cya???
Ok, thanks.
I’m going to give away my registration at NetRoots…don’t want to fly on airlines with attitude, and should probably save the carbon footprint.
Anyone want free registration?
maybe he wanted no part of shrub’s asscrack legacy
I have a room reserved but haven’t done anything else. Not sure I want to go this year.
I’d shoot for airlines with altitude if I were you.
wish i could but can’t *pout*
I lurves me some Wexler !
Holy snark, Batman!
The whole Enron debacle still pisses me off. Knowing that Phil Gramm and his wife are connected to those greedy Pigs is beyond disgusting.
Raven! too funny.
By all means.
Rev – have you heard if any good panels or such?
I’m so dense I had to go to the google figure out what DFA Netroots even was!
Nonplussed – would you like my registration? i could give you the hotel registration # too.
hmmmmm but turdblossom says mcclellan wasn’t privy to shit. he just you know blew shit at the rest of us
I live in Austin but the price is prohibitive. I live on disability.
Raven – Dirty F^ckin Americans?
Tender Vitters for McCain
During Watergate, I heard the slogan “Don’t buy books by crooks.” Haldeman, Ehrlichman, et al. tried to cash in on their criminal participation in the scandal. (I do not put John Dean in that category, because he went straight and helped the investigation substantially). The idea was that we should not reward them for their crimes and corruption by buying their books.
I am not going to buy Scotty’s book, either, even though to the best of my knowledge he has not (yet) been accused of any crime. The fact is he lied to the media and the American people for years, and facilitated the massive deceptions that he is now revealing. He’s not getting a cent of my nomey, even though it might be interesting to see what he has to say.
I’m for that!
I heard that Glenzilla decided not to go because they rejected a panel with him and John Dean and Dan Ellsberg and others.
Da noive!
Nonplussed – i’ll give it to you for free.
Boy they all got out in front of this book’s release didn’t they. Trying to make it out he said/he said. we’ll see.
Hooo, da noive, indeed! well, then fooy
Signing off for a while folks. Part 2 of Democracy for America’s night school on congressional campaigns. I’m trying hard to unseat my Gooper congressman.
I don’t know how to thank you! I really do appreciate it, you don’t know how much.
Damn, for that panel, i’d change my mind and go!
yep
Nonplussed – email me first name dot rifkin at comcast dot net
support your local library…
I’m sure most people hold Rove’s words to be inestimable truth … /s
Excellent! Good luck. ;-)
I think it’s great that you will get to go. You are a great American KinMA!
goodness! they turned down those headliners? really?
not netrooty enough?
That is so very nice of you!
**blushes** i’m content to go to eCAHNs meet-up in NY
anything that gets rover riled up is verrry interesting.
Oh and
I P Phreely
for
McCain
Now I want whoever it was that was whining that KO wasn’t hard enough on Bush to get front and center!
707
Raven, i’m a Dirty F*ckin’ American!
Well you just made my day.. and it’s been a grand day all along.
Yea for nonplussed!
now there is a thought
but I’m not going to request that they buy it, it would have to already be there
he not called turdblossom for nothing *g*
(Forgive my puerileness, but how about:)
I’m Queer
for
McCain
Glenn said so in a Book Salon thread that he was guesting. Jane chastised him for going off topic but he did show his displeasure.
Wish I could make that — we very much enjoyed our brief meeting with her when she came to Savannah. She’s a delight!
a rose by any other name……oh, wait….
thanks. it’s as dignified as our “president;s” belly bash.
Why???
Unfortunately, most of these problems relate to the cost of energy and the exorbitant profits derived thereof. First, we must demonstrate the right-wing mantra of supply and demand free-market forces are not at work here.
Supply is determined by a cartel, which in America is defined as collusion and is illegal. A subset of this point is that we operate under a regulated economy, since unregulated economies have been tried before–in Eastern Europe–a long time ago, and is referred to as the Dark Ages.
The “price” for oil is set by “speculators”, not cartels or oil companies, whom merely benefit from such unregulated speculation.
The area of speculation is the key arena for legislators to look for solutions in stopping rampant runaway price increases that have no basis in reality. It merely lines the pockets of those who claim innocence while flooding our political process with fundage to maintain exorbitant profits.
I wonder if Bush took a v*agra before going to the commencement.
Looks like he took something.
The area of speculation is the key arena for legislators to look for solutions
Howdy OFG you hit the nail on the head!
He didn’t say. I didn’t ask—would have been off topic, ya know.
Marion, put Raven and TRex in the car, some smokes, sunglasses, and you’ll be on a mission from God!
eCAHN’s not going to Netroots? I was so looking forward to meeting her.
Loo Hoo, i don’t know one way or other. her meet-up is earlier.
Petro don’t miss the military man love at 36
Straight Jackets
for McCain
hehehe
stinks, don’t it?
Oh, don’t tempt me!!!
That’s pretty funny, we live about 5 blocks apart and I haven’t seen him in 2 years. Different orbits.
Bong Hits
for
McCain
OK OK I’ll stop! but it’s so addicting.
gtg feed my troops.
Marion, are you going to Netroots? (Everyone will expect breakfast!) *g*
Also, I’d be afraid of spilling the water out of Ned the Fighting Koi’s fishbowl…
I am THE worlds greatest designated driver.
“connected to?”
They are, both of them, responsible for Enron, and its attendant griefs.
It’s only because of a friendly DoJ that they are both not in prison.
Gitmo
for
McCain
Saw that … had a hard time keeping dinner down …
We’ll need you, Raven.
Keith on Christy’s post now.
I haven’t decided to go to Netroots or not this year. I pre-paid a ticket to last years in Chicago, and could not get away. I have not been sold on this event.
UBS that is.
Hey pretty baby are you ready for me
It’s your good rockin’ daddy down from Tennessee
I’m just out of Austin bound for San Antone
With the radio blastin’ and the bird dog on
There’s a speed trap up ahead in Selma Town
But no local yokel gonna shut me down
‘Cause me and my boys got this rig unwound
And we’ve come a thousand miles from a Guitar Town
Nothin’ ever happened ’round my hometown
And I ain’t the kind to just hang around
But I heard someone callin’ my name one day
And I followed that voice down the lost highway
Everybody told me you can’t get far
On thirty-seven dollars and a jap guitar
Now I’m smokin’ into Texas with the hammer down
And a rockin’ little combo from the Guitar Town
Hey pretty baby don’t you know it ain’t my fault
I love to hear the steel belts hummin’ on the asphalt
Wake up in the middle of the night in a truck stop
Stumble in the restaurant wonderin’ why I don’t stop
Gotta keep rockin’ why I still can
I gotta two pack habit and a motel tan
But when my boots hit the boards I’m a brand new man
With my back to the riser I make my stand
And hey pretty baby won’t you hold me tight
We’re loadin’ up and rollin’ out of here tonight
One of these days I’m gonna settle down
And take you back with me to the Guitar Town
McCain says Senator Graham has one of the most honorable reputations in the Senate, and of course he’s not lobbying him.
Well, it’s NETroots, so I’d be delighted to cyberfeed folks there too… I’m also willing to come up with a bunch of recipes for ROOTS… Cooked or raw…
And to think we knew her way back when…
I heard Rush Limbaugh say today on his program that Exxon is the smallest oil company on the planet. *rolling eyes*
Hey, OFG! i saw you at the first one. haven’t (obviously) been sold enough to go so very far. Wish i could see everyone and Austin sounds great.
I’m amazed at how many of these pundits and Bush White House supporters have apparently read the full book in less than a day! Amazing…one would think that they’d have more important things to do than read some book by a “disgruntled” former Press Secretary.
And now they are saying that Scotty is only doing this because he was “forced out” before he wanted to leave. Really? What evidence do they proffer for THAT?
Scotty says he decided to come clean because he reconnected to his Christian faith. Woooooo! That’s interesting. Does that mewan that the folks in the WH were all compelled to worship Bush rather than the Lord? That lying, propagandizing, the quest for power, the destruction of the Constitution and theft of the Federal Treasury as well as sending 4000 young men and women to their deaths for an “unnecessary” war was the price to becoming part of the inner circle. And that required a scarifice of ones Christian morality as well?
I wonder if Bush took a v*agra before going to the commencement.
eewwwww….
Orthopedic Shoes
for
McCain
Come!
Bad wording on my part! *slapping my forehead* ;-)
yeah because everybody knows you spell McCain V-E-R-A-C-I-T-Y
Anger Management
for
McCain
OMG, “jap guitar” I’ll get banned!
Werther’s Originals for McCain
revdeb – any chance you could make it to eCAHN’s meetup? it would be great to catch up with you.
And John McKeating knows about honorable reputations.
Yup! Big love for Christie. What a heroine!
Sanka for McCain
I’m not sold either. As much as I’d love to see everyone, last year was too much Gina’s party and the venue was awful. Turning down Glenn and that panel was a real turn off for me.
And Limbaugh is the smallest gasbag,…short of the Van de Graff Zeppelin, that is.
*sigh* oh for the carefree days of a road trip. Might be possible again with solar cars?
nice choice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytHMQyJfVfg
Carrot muffins come to mind.
don’t know about it. Details?
I thought that was more of a Mittens beverage… Oh, sorry… that was Postum. Never mind…
Sounds like McClellan went to Bush Administration Rehab!
we’ll just have to have extra fun at eCAHN’s to try to make up for not going to austin.
Hearing Aids
for
McCain
Plausible Deniability
for
McCain
Beware what you seek! If I do come it will be in my gas-guzzling Chevy quad-cab, serving as a taxi to all fdlers who fly in at the mercy of what-the-heck-ever transportation offered locally.
Yeah, Chicago was disappointing. Maybe we all should go and celebrate Teddy and Pat’s wedding!! Road trip!!
Check this version. . .maybe you have. Didn’t we talk about our chevy panel trucks?
Crooks Work
for
McCain
“Honorable” is McCain’s safe word.
He says it when he’s really pissed off, to get himself to calm down. You can tell by the clip Keith played that McCain did not like being asked about Gramm lobbying him.
Lobbying him isn’t really the issue — trust the reporters covering McCain to get the question wrong. The issue is that Gramm wrote McCain’s mortgage bailout campaign policy. That’s the question that needs asking: “Did former Senator and UBS Vice-Chairman and lobbyist Phil Gramm write your campaign’s mortgage bailout plan while lobbying Congress on the same subject, Senator McCain?”
Because the answer is YES.
selise, most def
she’s made an open invite – but the discussion has been mostly during the early morning threads. hudson valley somewhere – it’s supposed to be about 3 hours from me and kathryn and i are planning to car pool down for it. june 22.
i’ll go find a linky to one of the threads where eCAHN discusses it.
There are bongs for beer, too??
Can’t do June 22. We are leaving for GA on June 23. Can’t do everything.
We’ll chip in for the gas, but it’s billed as a spot within walking distance of restaurants and a special walk.
Liquid goes in bongs.
Is there a better kind ? *g*
Bah hahahaha! Touche!
I wonder what Ken Lay is doing right now? I bet Phil Gramm knows. Spit.
Not going to Austin. Non-union venue.
Also, gotta save up for a marital party!
See? I wish you had press credentials, Teddy.
Umm.. He’s dead.
Where ya goin? T-Rex’s brother’s band “Music Hates You” us playing free at Athfest. I have this crazy idea that might no be your cup of tea.
My idea of a great “Netroots event” is little friendly sessions explaining precinct level activism. Writing letters to the editor and even how to approach editors for regular columns.
How to get local folks elected using canvassing, advertising, and messaging contrasting rich protectionists from working people advocates.
How can you get invited on a local talk-radio show or teevee program? How can you build an audience at your blog, where you will become a local market force?
It’s all about the movement, and if it is all about the greatness of the few on the panel and not the strength in the numbers attending, then we have become the enemy.
This is all kinda continuing a long shrub tradition of hiring the least qualified people possible to run Federal agencies… run an Arabian horse association into the ground after embezzling its funds = head FEMA, bankrupt the Enron ponzi scheme and then pillage your employee’s pensions = advise Cheney on energy policy, manage (impossibly) to lose money drilling for oil in an up-market = become shrub, president of the United States, and now lose $20 billion as banker resulting in lost homes for thousands and an economy in the toilet = become McSame’s treasury secretary. This is a true kakistocracy (rule of the worst).
Anybody keeping track of Mrs Ken Lay?
Are we all invited?
Will you be near Savannah?
That doesn’t tell us where he is :)
Maybe.
Going to our church’s annual conference at the end of June in Ft. Lauderdale. Just as bad as Austin in August.
bummer. GA is good too though.
Hugs to you, what a nice thing you did!
GA= General Assembly. Not Georgia. Sorry.
Oh, I think we all know where he is…!
Aha, you’ll be by Marion then.
Margot – hugs right back!
Some say once you’re gone you’re gone forever, and some say you’re gonna come back.
Some say you rest in the arms of the Saviour if in sinful ways you lack.
Some say that they’re comin’ back in a garden, bunch of carrots and little sweet peas.
I think I’ll just let the mystery be.
Okay, but we’d love it if you came to our GA too!
Methinks we need to do our own FDL annual event.
I was actually thinking of a climate that would preclude gardening… flames, you know…
Umm.. He’s dead.
Not sure I’m buying. Wherever he is, I bet it’s hot. Either on small island or, well, somewhere *really* hot…
Sorry, non-believer over here.
Build in the regional stuff OFG was talking about.
Oh, now there’s a lovely idea! I’d even take some time off work to meet teh folks I “know” so well. My only request(s) would be to not schedule it in a place like Savannah in August or Minneapolis in February…
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Teddy! No shit! You getting hitched? My loudest salutations are directed at you. Congratulations, sincerely and righteously. You served as my wing-man at the first bloggy-thing, and I’ll never forget what an excellent guide you were.
Teddy knows everyone by sight and nothing escapes his sight. When he points, by gosh, you look.
Best wishes Teddy, where are you registered for gifts and such. I think you might need a really crappy toaster or something.
Oh, I think that’s an excellent idea.
But most of my little disposable income goes into Blue America this year.
Perhaps we should get together in DeeCee for their swearing-in next January? (Which is, I believe, earlier than the Presidential inauguration.)
Reasonable requests both.
Nahhhhh, he’s alive.
Speaking of “dead”, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz thinks arresting Karl Rove is feasible and should be done:
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/…..-it-takes/
I’m not sure it exists, but if it does that’s where he belongs…!
also it’d be great if it could be somewhere where there’s camping for those of us who don’t want to spend an arm and a leg to go.
I agree, not matter what kind of stupid shit I say Teddy is always nice to me.
He might just be in Waycross!
Oh, I’m sure she’s telling the family before she leaves the country to visit Ken, “I’m going overseas to spend some time in those fabulous spas!”. Spit.
Bah hahahahaha! Check this out…
http://www.brokennewz.com/disp…..2llayphoto
Hi, OFG!
No registration or date yet; the haters might still get a stay of the Supreme’s ruling. We won’t know until 6/17, when marriages are set to start, whether the court will allow them to go forward.
Having been burned before, we’re not willing to set ourselves up for another disappointment.
But a crappy toaster sounds just swell!
fab idea! Start with New Year’s Eve in my back yard—2 hours to DeeCee—then take the show on the road to Jane’s.
here’s hoping that on june 17 the lovers win and the haters learn to love!
Laurence O’Donnell is redeeming himself (a little) by giving Buchanan HELL on Abrams’ wee programme.
can’t watch. He sold out long ago. thinks he’s so smart.
Watching the Cubs game. Will catch the KO rerun at 10.
And for those who don’t care about Daily Show spoilers and want to live blog it, I’ve started doing a gabbly chat parallel to the regular late night threads.
refreshing – and yeah, he’s on fire.
We shouldn’t have our “base” huddling like refugees in some tent city somewhere. Those who are active locally and want to do more, mainly because they are tired of being “trickled on” by republican economics, should get a stipend offset.
This would be hard to manage, who gets what and stuff, but we have plenty of people on the left who are more than willing to give a hand up.
Dr Kirk taking on Corporations for us once again a couple of flights up.
Hunted with dogs
All I need to remember about Phil Gramm was that classic comment of his about how soon they would be hunting Democrats with dogs in his home state. A charming sentiment from a thoroughly charming statesman. I won’t wish the same fate on him, though more out of concern for the dogs. Hate to have perfectly good hunting dogs needing to be put down because they were exposed to rabies.
i think that’s a great idea – but i kinda like camping (if the weather is fine) and there is so much more that could be done… it’s hard to prioritize a hotel room. but however the details are worked out – i’m all for any fdl meet ups that are fun, useful and as inclusive as possible.
That would be great!
Will President McCain be carrying the ball for them on Social Security privatization as well?
life liberty and pursuit of happiness in the hands of speculators!!
RETARDATION………….