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	<title>Comments on: GRITtv: Who Is The Iraqi Resistance? Beyond the Pentagon Spin</title>
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		<title>By: LisaG</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/28/grittv-who-is-the-iraqi-resistance-beyond-the-pentagon-spin/#comment-1466504</link>
		<dc:creator>LisaG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 19:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here’s a chilling thought:&lt;br /&gt;
Someone who was 12 when the country was invaded is now ‘of age’ - joining up to fight in the resistance against US forces. The filmmakers talk to ordinary folks, not Al-Q, Baathists, “dead-enders” and Iran.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s a chilling thought:<br />
Someone who was 12 when the country was invaded is now ‘of age’ &#8211; joining up to fight in the resistance against US forces. The filmmakers talk to ordinary folks, not Al-Q, Baathists, “dead-enders” and Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: TheLurkingMod</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/28/grittv-who-is-the-iraqi-resistance-beyond-the-pentagon-spin/#comment-1466499</link>
		<dc:creator>TheLurkingMod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 19:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A hard-refresh will solve a few duplication problems. Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A hard-refresh will solve a few duplication problems. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesJoyce</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/28/grittv-who-is-the-iraqi-resistance-beyond-the-pentagon-spin/#comment-1466414</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesJoyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It is obvious the “fascist-neo-cons” have forgotten our own history of resistance against the British Colonial Empire.  These “fascist-neocons” are fucking abject losers who just like an alcohol addicted brainwashed dysfunctional individual, see no farther than the cost of a six pack and the gas they need to purchase, to get a six pack! Bush and his regressive fascist scumbag cohorts in colonial crime are aristo-corporate criminals who have usurped the constitution to protect status quo energy interests.  Once again the worst fears of our republic as expressed by Washington and Jefferson have been exposed and must be removed from power and identified as the treasonous traders/traitors to the “Republic” they are!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Natural Selection Corporate T(r)eason “Executive Oil” and the “Iraq Oil Plot?”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is obvious the “fascist-neo-cons” have forgotten our own history of resistance against the British Colonial Empire.  These “fascist-neocons” are fucking abject losers who just like an alcohol addicted brainwashed dysfunctional individual, see no farther than the cost of a six pack and the gas they need to purchase, to get a six pack! Bush and his regressive fascist scumbag cohorts in colonial crime are aristo-corporate criminals who have usurped the constitution to protect status quo energy interests.  Once again the worst fears of our republic as expressed by Washington and Jefferson have been exposed and must be removed from power and identified as the treasonous traders/traitors to the “Republic” they are!!!</p>
<p>Natural Selection Corporate T(r)eason “Executive Oil” and the “Iraq Oil Plot?”</p>
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		<title>By: JamesJoyce</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/28/grittv-who-is-the-iraqi-resistance-beyond-the-pentagon-spin/#comment-1466384</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesJoyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So now we do to Iraq what the English Empire did to the colonist:  “mercantile the Iraqi’s and rape them for ooooiiilll”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kings Dukes and corporate cohorts in colonial crime rape Americans and Iraqis  in kind. Under the pretense of protection, raped many a times in the interest of profit, corporate kind!  Human nature has not changed since Jefferson’s time!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now we do to Iraq what the English Empire did to the colonist:  “mercantile the Iraqi’s and rape them for ooooiiilll”</p>
<p>Kings Dukes and corporate cohorts in colonial crime rape Americans and Iraqis  in kind. Under the pretense of protection, raped many a times in the interest of profit, corporate kind!  Human nature has not changed since Jefferson’s time!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/28/grittv-who-is-the-iraqi-resistance-beyond-the-pentagon-spin/#comment-1466379</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You miss my point and you’re repeating yourself.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You miss my point and you’re repeating yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/28/grittv-who-is-the-iraqi-resistance-beyond-the-pentagon-spin/#comment-1466375</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;edit - I’ve &lt;strike&gt;since&lt;/strike&gt; heard this spin before.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sheesh, and I even used mah bes fren preview&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>edit &#8211; I’ve <strike>since</strike> heard this spin before.</p>
<p>Sheesh, and I even used mah bes fren preview</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/28/grittv-who-is-the-iraqi-resistance-beyond-the-pentagon-spin/#comment-1466369</link>
		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Petreaus and other members of the general staff are trying to convince themselves that they can prove to history that they can defeat a nationalist insurgency with occupation troops. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you cannot “win” an occupation, you MUST negotiate the peace or you must anialate those people&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;NOBODY wants another country running their government and stealing their treasure&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you negotiate a peace, you lose or you anialate&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;those are the options&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Petreaus and other members of the general staff are trying to convince themselves that they can prove to history that they can defeat a nationalist insurgency with occupation troops. </p>
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<p>you cannot “win” an occupation, you MUST negotiate the peace or you must anialate those people</p>
<p>NOBODY wants another country running their government and stealing their treasure</p>
<p>you negotiate a peace, you lose or you anialate</p>
<p>those are the options</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/28/grittv-who-is-the-iraqi-resistance-beyond-the-pentagon-spin/#comment-1466365</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;the administration has decided to call all insurgents, no matter what the group, “al qaeda”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, by extension, calls every dead body an insurgent.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;dead = insurgent = al Qaida &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m tryin’ to think where I’ve since this spin before.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Petreaus and other members of the general staff are trying to convince themselves that they can prove to history that they can defeat a nationalist insurgency with occupation troops.  And like France in Algeria and the US in Viet Nam they are doomed to failure.  Ain’t gonna happen.  Was never gonna happen.  They don’t teach these subjects at military academies to kill time.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the administration has decided to call all insurgents, no matter what the group, “al qaeda”</p>
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<p>And, by extension, calls every dead body an insurgent.</p>
<p>dead = insurgent = al Qaida </p>
<p>I’m tryin’ to think where I’ve since this spin before.</p>
<p>Petreaus and other members of the general staff are trying to convince themselves that they can prove to history that they can defeat a nationalist insurgency with occupation troops.  And like France in Algeria and the US in Viet Nam they are doomed to failure.  Ain’t gonna happen.  Was never gonna happen.  They don’t teach these subjects at military academies to kill time.</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/28/grittv-who-is-the-iraqi-resistance-beyond-the-pentagon-spin/#comment-1466364</link>
		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;let me elaborate on this;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it is IMPOSSIBLE to win any “occupation” you either lose or you anialate those people, they do not want you there and they will continue to want their land and their assets back, there is no “winning”, you ALWAYS negotiate a truce or you lose or you anialate&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;now, that being obvious once told, let’s look at what the administration has done to show every single IRaqi he is NOT their benfactor and he has NO intention of “winning their hearts and minds”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you CANNOT POSSIBLY “win the hearts and minds of a land when you are KNOWN to torture their people, when you are KNOWN to hold innocents and give them no hope to prove that they are innocent&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and you CANNOT be considered their “benefactor” when you allow their infrastructure to be destroyed, when you encourage one group to overwhelm other groups of people&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the ONLY reason to use tactics that include torture is when you DO NOT WANT TO WIN THEIR HEARTS AND MINDS&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;becuase once you are known to endorse torture you have created far more enemies who will commit far more acts of terror then you make believe you have solved with “information from torture”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;not only do you get LESS information from torture, you also cause MORE acts against you&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;AND EVERYONE IN THE ADMINISTRATION KNOWS THIS&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and they are encouraging middle east unrest, they even bragged that’s what they wanted to do on the web site of the sick maniacal fraternity they are all a member, the PNAC&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;rant/over&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let me elaborate on this;</p>
<p>it is IMPOSSIBLE to win any “occupation” you either lose or you anialate those people, they do not want you there and they will continue to want their land and their assets back, there is no “winning”, you ALWAYS negotiate a truce or you lose or you anialate</p>
<p>now, that being obvious once told, let’s look at what the administration has done to show every single IRaqi he is NOT their benfactor and he has NO intention of “winning their hearts and minds”</p>
<p>you CANNOT POSSIBLY “win the hearts and minds of a land when you are KNOWN to torture their people, when you are KNOWN to hold innocents and give them no hope to prove that they are innocent</p>
<p>and you CANNOT be considered their “benefactor” when you allow their infrastructure to be destroyed, when you encourage one group to overwhelm other groups of people</p>
<p>the ONLY reason to use tactics that include torture is when you DO NOT WANT TO WIN THEIR HEARTS AND MINDS</p>
<p>becuase once you are known to endorse torture you have created far more enemies who will commit far more acts of terror then you make believe you have solved with “information from torture”</p>
<p>not only do you get LESS information from torture, you also cause MORE acts against you</p>
<p>AND EVERYONE IN THE ADMINISTRATION KNOWS THIS</p>
<p>and they are encouraging middle east unrest, they even bragged that’s what they wanted to do on the web site of the sick maniacal fraternity they are all a member, the PNAC</p>
<p>rant/over</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 17:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;BBC:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Himalayan nation of Nepal has become the world’s newest republic, ending 240 years of monarchy. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Royal rule was officially abolished by a new constituent assembly meeting in the capital, Kathmandu. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Maoists, who emerged as the largest party in last month’s elections, were committed to ousting King Gyanendra and creating a republic. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They entered politics in 2006, after signing a peace agreement that ended a decade-long insurgency. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Several thousand people have been celebrating in the streets of Kathmandu, anticipating the change. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“This is the people’s victory,” former Maoist Kamal Dahal, 22, told Reuters news agency.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BBC:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Himalayan nation of Nepal has become the world’s newest republic, ending 240 years of monarchy. </p>
<p>Royal rule was officially abolished by a new constituent assembly meeting in the capital, Kathmandu. </p>
<p>The Maoists, who emerged as the largest party in last month’s elections, were committed to ousting King Gyanendra and creating a republic. </p>
<p>They entered politics in 2006, after signing a peace agreement that ended a decade-long insurgency. </p>
<p>Several thousand people have been celebrating in the streets of Kathmandu, anticipating the change. </p>
<p>“This is the people’s victory,” former Maoist Kamal Dahal, 22, told Reuters news agency.
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