Well, we've been saying it here for awhile now, but recently, Barack Obama said it too:
At a fundraiser in Florida Thursday night, Barack Obama accused anti-immigrant crusaders Lou Dobbs and Rush Limbaugh of "ginning things up" to such an extent that there was a rise in hate crimes against Hispanics last year.
"A certain segment has basically been feeding a kind of xenophobia. There's a reason why hate crimes against Hispanic people doubled last year," Obama said. "If you have people like Lou Dobbs and Rush Limbaugh ginning things up, it's not surprising that would happen."
Politico's Jonathan Martin writes that Limbaugh addressed Obama's remarks on his radio show today and said that the remarks hurt his feelings.
"I actually don't believe this. Barack Obama, in my own state, raising money for his presidential campaign called me xenophobic at a fundraiser," Limbaugh said. "I thought this guy was the unity candidate? Calling me a Xenophobe? Responsible for hate crimes? My feelings are hurt here."
I'm sure we're all just very worried about poor Rush's hurt feelings here, since he's such a sensitive fellow himself who would never dream of hurting anyone else's feelings, let alone demonizing them so deeply and consistently that right-wing nutjobs in his audience set off bombs at federal buildings or commit hate crimes.
Now I wonder if Lou Dobbs will invite Obama onto his show to attempt to "refute" this charge. Or will he just bare his teeth again?
UPDATE: The normally clueless Joe Klein chimes in:
I've got to wonder why the network allows Lou Dobbs to continue spewing false, inflammatory nonsense under the guise of objective journalism.
Here is his latest confrontation with Paul Waldman of Media Matters about the fictional NAFTA superhighway. Indeed, the Washington Post's Fact Checker gave the NAFTA Superhighway myth four Pinocchios.
Now, I know that Dobbs brings in some serious ratings. And he is certainly entitled to his own opinion. But he is not entitled to his own facts--especially not on a network that makes a real effort to separate truth from falsehood and represent all sides of the political debate. Shouldn't someone be editing this swill? Doesn't CNN have a responsibility to tell its viewers that, in this case, one of their presenters is engaged in flat-out anti-immigrant fearmongering? Perhaps the network could employ a simple superimposed title--THIS IS NOT TRUE...or LOU HAS JUMPED THE SHARK ON THIS ONE--whenever Dobbs pretends that there is such a thing as the NAFTA Superhighway. This sort of thing diminishes the credibility and hard work of the other journalists on the network. (And no, I do not count the execrable Glenn Beck as a journalist.)
It's good to see that other journalists are finally recognizing that Dobbs' lack of accountability is a problem for all of us.
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Poke that fat bastard!
Good. Suck on it, blowhard boy.
Hey Rush! Boo-freakin’ hoo.
His feelings are hurt, but did he deny fanning the flames against immigrants?
My feelings are hurt here.”
Now how am I supposed to sleep tonight?
How could he? His nose might have hit the microphone as it grew.
“my feelings are hurt, I may have to take my Viagra and Oxycontin and go home…”
I suppose that’s why he takes those little blue pills now that he can’t get any more oxycontin.
Beat me to it! LOL
I would imagine he was saying it facetiously … but it would be interesting to get him to say so. He’d be more or less admitting he doesn’t care that his rhetoric inspires people to violence.
So let’s see. Rush has helped increase hate crimes on Hispanics. Now I’m a bit more concerned about his call for riots in Denver. Can he actually pull that off?
“(And no, I do not count the execrable Glenn Beck as a journalist.)
Excuse me, Joe, Beck is not a journalist? Do my eyes deceive me or is Joke Line actually making sense?
What’s going on here? Are there a few individuals in the MSM who have now decided the progressive blogs actually may be legit after all, that the Greenwalds, Hamshers, Digbys, Waldmans, and yes, Niewerts, may actually have something important to say? That the Dobbs and Limbaughs and Savages are just full of shit, and really have nothing of value to add to the political discourse in our country?
Time will tell.
There is a highway (Highway 69) that is being planned in Texas, and there are “corridors” planned. There is land that is being taken by eminent domain in Texas. When Noriega was here on FDL, I asked him about it in the comments, and he said that it was needed, because of new ports being built in Mexico and the increased traffic that will pose. It is not a myth. Just sayin’.
Other than that, Lou Dobbs is inciting anger, frustration, and hatred towards immigrants legal and illegal…meaning anybody that doesn’t look like him. Everyone becomes suspect.
After all these years, i had just assumed Mr Limbaugh was without conscious or feelings. Seems like I was wrong on the feelings part.
FOUL: That means you consider Joe Klein a credible journalist; but, I share your amazement that Joe actually makes sense in this case; but; but, Joe’s statements are still only opinion and not actual journalism — even though I quite agree — so I’ll stubbornly persist in my original contention.
All very well and good guys. I agree and all but can you tell me what this means:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....a-otrauma/
I really, really have had enough of politicians who would be President who:
1) Have never been to Europe.
2) Don’t know the difference between Sunni and Shia’.
3) The fact the fact that Donnie McClurkin hates gays.
I mean what’s the point of hammering McSame about his racism, stupidity and fascist tendencies?
To put some guy in office who cannot be bothered to get his history right?
To put some guy who’s out telling lies about his family and can’t be bothered to find out that Auschwitz was liberated by the….
Fuking Commies!
Man this is one disgusting asshole we’ve got on ‘our’ side. I’m not reading any more posts about McSame. Schecter and others have covered the guy.
Time to take stock of just who we want on ‘our’ side.
Past time.
Don’t get too excited about Joe Klein. Klein’s faction (the media elites) think it’s just fine to push to let corporations write the rules of trade; they don’t object to Dobbs because of his racism, but because he’s inconvenient for the interests of money.
The issue isn’t globalization vs. isolation, it’s over what form globalization will take and who gets to write the rules. There are plenty of reasons other than Dobbs-style xenophobia to object to a “free trade” agreement with a country that murders labor organizers, and the EU has done a decent (though imperfect) job of combining decent standards for workers and the enviroment with the freedom to move money across borders. In particular, workers can move relatively freely across borders to follow the jobs.
Good for Obama. Way to stand up to bullies.
I was under the impression that Rush had “feelings” for Dominican boy-toys.
Scott McClellan throws Bush under the bus…used propaganda to sell the war. Keith.
Back to the article…
McCain said, “Akmamadinijad” right before the demonstrators yelled at him.
He meant to say Buchenwald. Not that it makes any difference in your mind I’m sure. The point is that it was a major concentration camp and he suffered from PTSD as a result of the experience.
Scott McClellan throws Bush under the bus
Raw Story has something on it:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/....._0527.html
For those interested, Laura Flanders is upstairs with
GRITtv Interview: Stop-Loss Killed Me
HB TM
HB WDD
Laura has a brand new video up entitled “GRITtv Interview: Stop-Loss Killed Me!”
I suspect that Obama is talking about Dachau or another camp that was liberated by US forces. You’re correct that Auschwitz was liberated by the Soviets, but Auschwitz also has the best name recognition of the Nazi extermination camps.
My father did psychological profiling work on the personnel of some of the camps, and it rendered him unfit for further armed service (Section 8 discharge). Obama is making a point in the referenced video that today’s soldiers deserve mental health care.
It’s a good thing Shrub has Barney - I’ll bet even Laura doesn’t like him any more.
Turns out it was Buchenwald. That was a really good find on your part. He didn’t say he was in Auschwitz under any kind of sniper fire or anything. He mistakenly said he had an uncle there. Still, if you actually do find anything meaningful, don’t hesitate to let us know.
I’ll bet even Laura doesn’t like him any more.
sucker bet - no thanks - lol.
Even more interesting is the way that Keith nailed McPaid on Phil Graham and his wife’s affiliation with UBS and his paid lobbyist position in regard to the very banks that are now needing bailout due to their risky mortgage slice and dice activities.
And up next on KO.
The rat has already left the sinking ship and now he’s throwing extra ballast back over the rail. I can only think of every made for TV lawyer show I’ve ever seen where the witness changes his/her mind and the prosecuting attorney says, “so were you lying then or are you lying now.” In Scotty’s case, I think he was simply butt stupid then, and only slightly more enlightened now…at least enough to get pissed and write a little book about it.
Guess the speaker!
“If anything, the national press corps was probably too deferential to the White House and to the administration in regard to the most important decision facing the nation during my years in Washington, the choice over whether to go to war in Iraq.”
(OK, Chimpy McMoonface)
http://www.politico.com/news/s.....10649.html
Chris Matthews said it was Birkenau?
Rats, I meant Puffy, not Chimpy…
at least enough to get pissed and write a little book about it.
Geez, who’d have ever thought that Scotty had a pair?
why would any president care what Donnie McClurkin thinks about gays? Never been to Europe? Is that some sort of litmus test? Would that include backpacking through, sleeping in youth hostels and sampling every ’spirit’ said country has to offer? Seems like that could end up being a negative for a presidential candidate (guess that leaves me out)
Not enough of a pair to take personal responsibility for anything.
• McClellan charges that Bush relied on “propaganda” to sell the war.
• He says the White House press corps was too easy on the administration during the run-up to the war….McClellan repeatedly embraces the rhetoric of Bush’s liberal critics and even charges: “If anything, the national press corps was probably too deferential to the White House and to the administration in regard to the most important decision facing the nation during my years in Washington, the choice over whether to go to war in Iraq.
“The collapse of the administration’s rationales for war, which became apparent months after our invasion, should never have come as such a surprise. … In this case, the ‘liberal media’ didn’t live up to its reputation. If it had, the country would have been better served.”
• He admits that some of his own assertions from the briefing room podium turned out to be “badly misguided.”
• The longtime Bush loyalist also suggests that two top aides held a secret West Wing meeting to get their story straight about the CIA leak case at a time when federal prosecutors were after them — and McClellan was continuing to defend them despite mounting evidence they had not given him all the facts.
• McClellan asserts that the aides — Karl Rove, the president’s senior adviser, and I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, the vice president’s chief of staff — “had at best misled” him about their role in the disclosure of former CIA operative Valerie Plame’s identity.
* [A]fter Hurricane Katrina, the White House “spent most of the first week in a state of denial,” and he blames Rove for suggesting the photo of the president comfortably observing the disaster during an Air Force One flyover. McClellan says he and counselor to the president Dan Bartlett had opposed the idea and thought it had been scrapped.
didn’t Booshy say, on Scotty’s retirement day, that they’d get together on a porch swing in Texas after this administration was put to bed?
I’m seeing two vacancies on a porch swing somewhere in Texas…
Honestly, I would be surprised if Ass Limbo had ONE little feeling. Seriously.
Unless you consider Bush’s porch swing is a custom made, glider waterboarding table. It brings a whole new rhythm to the process.
well they ain’t sittin’ on MY porch!
Yup, you betcha.
But, he confirmed the Scooter-Turdblossom-Darth link. Shock of the century.
Scotty know that the only way to sell his piece of shit book is to put a few critical passages in it. When you buy the fuckin thing, you’ll learn that those passages are the only critical lines in the entire piece of shit.
Don’t be a sucker!
Scottie claims that Clusterfuck didn’t know the truth either- he was decieved by Cheney and Rove- somehow Scottie doesn’t explain how a president could be lied to on the most important issue of the day- by his closest advisors- and still keep em around….too much thinkin fer ya Scottie? Still lyin after all these years?
And our last ‘President’ did not know that Iraq is not an Arab country. Nice try on missing my point though.
Scottie is so funny. It’s the “liberal media”’s fault? Uh, hello Scottie, but it was Ari Fleischer who said to the
warmongering right wing media“liberal media”, “….careful what you say”. Remember that? It was the SCARED USELESS media (right wing, obviously) that said in response, “Okay! We’ll report whatever you want us to report, just don’t forget who we are when you have those snazzy DC parties!!!”.Yep….
Folks with their head in the sand should not be POTUS.
Oh…yeah, don’t forget Hillary lied about the sniper fire!
well they ain’t sittin’ on MY porch!
maybe you need to dial up your diabolical index a bit. Think of the havoc you could “accidentally” cause.
Oh, the possibilities….
Not too worry the plan now is to fly off to sunny Paraguay where they can’t be held to account.
jayt, i leave diabolical to the teens in my life.
Not traveling to europe does not equate with having your head in the sand. No more than folks not traveling to the far east or south america. I find that patently ridiculous.
Have fun folks and if Barry gets da gold ring and starts fukin’ everything in sight up….
Well, don’t say I didn’t warn ya.
Uncle Vanya…..
Ri-ight!
Iraq is not an arab country?
Is that true?
IRAN is not an arab country.
Suit yerself pal.
Auschwitz..hahah……Bet the Germans and the Austrians just loooooooooove that!
To each his/her own.
We’re talking about politicians here.
Thanks for your concern, though.
Scottie claims that Clusterfuck didn’t know the truth either
There is, of course, always the possibility that Mister Dim-Bulb *still* doesn’t know….
Yeah- still rootin round fer them WMDs.
Please.Do.Not.Feed. …
Nah, Bush knew.. He was ready to attack Iraq as soon as he took office. He always thought his father wimped out…
actually the germans love them (ich habe viele freunden, die Obama tshirts haben moechten)
Clusterfuck:
“Hey where’s my WMD report- anyone seen mah damn WMD report? Ah was sposed ta get it YEARS ago.”
You are, of course, correct.
My bad.
LOL … ((( newt )))
Come to think of it, Paul O’Neil *did* say that Iraq was topic #1 at Meeting #1 of the new Bush administration back in January of 2001, didn’t he?
Guess I’ll watch Keith- unless he mentions Hillary- in which case I’ll go clean toilets or somethin instead.
Whoops….
Iraq is not a Muslim country…what the fuck difference does it make.
Bush was a whackjob fool of a tool for the uber-rich from the Reich.
Barry will be the same from the uber-rich of the Left.
Prognosis: 100 years of war in the Middle East, economic collapse in the West and East.
Flip a coin and take your chances.
There’s no real difference in how the country will be ‘led’ by either McSame or Barry. They’re both egomaniacs whose reach far exceeds their grasp.
You do understand what many are feeling from Barry’s ‘lil’ gaffe don’t you?
Pain that someone would care so little as to use the suffering of those destroyed by the Nazis to make political points and further pain that the fool was so clumsy as to….
GET IT FUKIN’ WRONG!
You do understand that…
Do you not.
If Obama gets elected and does not get Richard Clarke back into the game, and at a very high level, he’ll be missing the boat.
And what about this business of Limbaugh trying to upset the applecart in Denver? How can this be legal, David?
O’Neill has to be a key witness in the BushCo trials …
RIP Sydney Pollock … your work is immortal !
All Presidents prepare their troops for war against potential enemies but Bush was preparing for Iraq since taking office or so I heard..
But it was a genuine Hawken.
Iraq is not a muslim country?
Perhaps you should read a book er somethin
Re: Iraq
Bush was ready on Day 1 to go after them.
Yep,
I was right the first time.
Just like McCain will be ready on day 1 to go after Iran, I suppose..
These b*stards can control a Mars lander from millions of miles but my remote won’t work from my dining table …
How much did it cost to build?
It would if it were a Hawken.
ROFL … ((((( Betsy & Raven )))))
LOL Don’t feel bad. I just had to give my computer mouse an extensive cleaning after it stopped working from being clogged up with goop. ;-)
Try a bank shot. I’m not kidding.
6 in the corner
His little head is attached to it.
((( Kay )))
Batteries?
Let me guess….Hillary will say tomorrow, “Oh yea? My Daddy is a Jew and lived in a concentration camp for years during WWII! He had to eat his sneakers to survive!!!! How do you like that, Obama!!!! I’m better than you! I am, I am, I am!!!!*Hillary sticking tongue out*”?
I’ve tried yoga postures too, including standing on my head …
(((((HUGGING YOU BACK)))))
I think we have the same humor and we see the world through similar lenses. Something tells me this. ;-)
Eli’s up-upstairs with VA Secretary To Vets: Suck It Up And Deal
22+ years in yoga/meditation … life’s too precious to be serious …
Join Eli upstairs …
What does it matter the damn thing worked. Which is a lot more than you can say about anything, anything at all, associated with the MIC. And yes, I know the Mars lander has it’s military component.
Everything in America does.
My old man always wanted me to stand on my head and stack bb’s. namaste
Exactly. If we can’t laugh, be sarcastic, and understand irony, then we’re neocons. Ewwww. ;-)
Namaste Raven … off to read to the kids …
Jeebus, I thought F*cker Carlson was permanently barred from MSNBC …
You are just making yourself look like a ‘believer’. Stop. Put down the Kool-Aid and realize that The One is just a small time Chicago pol who got offered a lot of money to throw the election to McSame and said, or maybe it was his wifey, Hell Yeah, Give me the Money…
Give me the Power!
Give me the Power!
Give me the Power!
See….the Obama movie already got made. What you are seeing is a makeover. A shitty one too.
I was asking how much Petro’s TV remote costs. Click “show text” before you blast, please.