One of its warning signs was that the feds showed up a week before and blackened out the windows of the Cattle Congress facility to prepare it for holding large numbers of detainees.
As one of the locals put it:
"What's that all about? You know, what does that sound like? That's just creepy, just things that seem really unAmerican, that seem on the down low," Howard says. "No one should be treated this way. These aren't drug runners. They're not terrorists." Howard calls the raid "political maneuvering" to show people the Bush Administration is doing something on illegal immigration.
As Joshua Holland at AlterNet suggests, the feds' behavior throughout, while "professional" enough, has raised the specter of law enforcement that is all about keeping workers in a state of fear, and leaving the employers who are manipulating them completely unscathed.
According to the Associated Press, an attorney who interviewed some of those swept up in the raid said that the company itself "obtained false identification for immigrant workers." But in the overwhelming majority of these raids -- 98 percent, according to the Washington Post -- the only people to pay any penalty are poor people trying to earn a substandard wage working in America's growing unregulated economy. Meanwhile, ICE charged many of the detained with "identity theft" for those faked papers, effectively giving immigration hard-liners what Congress hasn't granted them through the legislative process: serious criminal charges for what have always been misdemeanor immigration violations at most.
Most of all, it's clear that the plant's owners were in the business of seriously exploiting the illegal status of their workers -- abusing them, underpaying them, exposing them to hazardous working conditions -- and the raids actually had the effect of covering that up:
In this case, as in many others like it, many of the workers appear to have been seriously exploited. The AP reported that the plant's management "improperly withheld money from employees' paychecks for 'immigration fees,' didn't allow workers to use the restroom during 10-hour shifts, physically abused workers and didn't compensate them for overtime work."
According to MSNBC, workers at the plant were routinely started at $5 per hour for their first three or four months on the job and then raised to $6, still well below Iowa's minimum wage of $7.25. Iowa Labor Commissioner David Neil confirmed to the Des Moines Register that Agriprocessors was being investigated by the state on suspicion of wage violations, paying people off the books and hiring underage workers. A copy of the federal warrant obtained by the Register described an incident in which "a supervisor covered the eyes of an employee with duct tape and struck him with a meat hook."
It's unclear what the raids' impact will be on the ongoing investigations into the company's workplace violations. With hundreds of workers -- and potential witnesses -- carted away, Jill Cashen, a spokesperson for the United Food and Commercial Workers (UFCW), asked: "how can justice ever be served on these exploitation issues?" Agriprocessor's management must have been pleased with the timing of the raid. Not only did it put at least a crimp in the ongoing investigations of serious allegations of abuse by the company, it also derailed an effort by UFCW to organize the plants' workers and give them a shot at bargaining with management for better working conditions.
According to the Boston Herald, the fine folks at Agriprocessors in fact were helping illegal immigrants with their illegal paperwork:
A federal informant who worked at Agriprocessors told officials about workers who appeared to be undocumented having trouble getting paid. ... Other workers admitted to gaining employment using fraudulent documents. One worker claimed that he got a job without having any documents. When he received his first paycheck, the warrant application says, "it had another unknown person's name on it. This check was then taken to another portion of the plant where it was cashed."
This strongly suggests that company officials were systematically helping undocumented people work at the plant.
While the arrested workers, particularly those who used fake IDs (which is nearly all of them) are looking forward to prison time and then deportation, the plant's politically connected owners and managers are evidently facing no charges at all. But for ordinary folks in Postville, it isn't just illegal immigrants who are feeling the weight of this kind of law enforcement -- it has terrorized legal immigrants and longtime residents alike. And maybe that's the point:
Still, the impression among many non-Latinos in Postville is that the federal government targeted the wrong people for the wrong reasons. Any discussion of the subject often begins with the phrase, “The law is the law, but …”
“We got raped and we got plundered and we got pillaged Monday. Everybody in this town ought to be angry,” business owner Lyle Opheim said.
chools Superintendent David Strudthoff said the raid has been enormously disruptive for local children. When the helicopters appeared and word spread of what was happening, some students started crying in their classrooms. A third of the elementary school's 387 pupils were missing the day after, and about half of them were among the 400 women and children who sought sanctuary at St. Bridget's.
Most have now returned to school, but 10 or so have already left permanently, and with the end of the school year looming, dozens of children whose parents face deportation are set to return to their native countries, including those who are U.S. citizens by virtue of being born here.
“These people have been here 15 years and they're entwined in our families and in our community,” Mr. Strudthoff said. “When 10 per cent of the population is imprisoned, it brings a community to its knees.”
And there have been questions as well about how the detainees have been given their due process:
The hearings drew renewed criticism from advocates who contend that the federal government was rushing the immigrants through mass hearings. The setup suggests "that the government is more interested in getting people deported without hearings than in achieving justice," said Ben Stone, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Iowa.
A local nun probably voiced the outrage best:
"I am also a United States citizen who grew up believing that this is a democratic country in which the dignity of all people is respected and their rights protected," she said Tuesday at a news conference here, surrounded by members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus.
"This is not the country I experienced this past week."
Thill, several times choking up with emotion, told of the shock and distress of immigrants who gathered at St. Bridget's Catholic Church the day of the raid.
"Hundreds of families were torn apart by this raid," she said.
The mother in one family was released, while her husband was still detained, said Thill. Her children are upset and frightened. The mother has no income and cannot work or provide for her children, she said.
"The humanitarian impact of this raid is obvious to anyone in Postville," Thill said. "The economic impact will soon be evident."
Indeed. But this is what happens when we do what the right-wingers want us to do, to "enforce the laws that are on the books." The problem is that, as we've explained previously, these laws are so misbegotten and unworkable in the first place that travesties like this -- installing a virtual police state in small-town America, terrorizing and suppressing workers in a way that lets employers exploit them without consequence -- are inevitable.
And then, perhaps, we should contemplate what happens when these scenes are repeated in town after town, city after city, plant after plant.
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jus cogens!
Harbinger? It’s already on order from China.… Allow six to eight weeks for delivery.
This raid was pure BS.
have to protect amurica from the brown folks
Black paint?
Black helicopters?
Maybe my crackpot gunhuggging friends aren’t crazy after all.
Dobble must be so pleased. *sigh*
Bush is an idiot Mexicans who are legal are not going to be afraid of INS but with the antiimmigrant climate Lou Dobbs, Glen Beck and these raids are spreading everyone who is sorta tan and or speaks with a slight accent is getting hassled.
Pissed off people vote especially when there is no penalty or punishment to stop us.
Wait do you think Bush will have the cops stopping brown people from voting on election day? Because that is the only way you could stop people who are pissed off from voting.
40 years in America working speaking English and some church lady asks if my mom could stop doing the readings at church because she couldn’t understand her because of the accent.
The church by keeping a racist lost my mom that day. I’m thinking the GOP is going to lose the Cubans in Florida.
The plant owners and managers should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. If they are not ultimately incarcerated, it will be a gross injustice.
That being said, I think well informed people operating in good faith could reach different conclusions in assessing this Postville situation.
How do we get the INS and the Federal DA in trouble for not arresting the owners of this plant? By not arresting them the GOP shows that this was the pure Karl Rove politics of getting various federal agencies to work together to get Bush/McCain elected.
Guess what We do not differentiate between Bush and McCain, McCain can claim all he wants to be not as bad as the rest of the GOP on immigration but if Bush raids us yes McCain will get the blame in November.
Isn’t the use of federal military resources a violation of Posse Comitatus?
(((QuakerGirl)))
But this is what happens when we do what the right-wingers want us to do, to “enforce the laws that are on the books.”
This is a selective application of laws on the books. The Agriprocessors Corporation has broken many laws. Minimum wage requirements, excessive work hours, no overtime pay, no breaks, mistreatment of workers by supervisors, and more. How and when will the application of laws on the books affect these criminal corporate masters? They are essentially engaged in the practice of modern-day slavery.
Can we arrest the INS and the DA for letting the
plant ownerscrooks go free? I mean crooked cops and DAs get arrested all the time right and any cop or DA who lets a criminal like the plant owners who KNOWINGLY HIRED hundreds of illegal immigrants over the YEARS must be dirty!(((Quaker girl)))
Sending you plenty of positive energy, peace and love
Seconded.
Unitary Executive need not be concerned with such plebian process matters.
I hope Obama speaks to this.
Yep.
They call it “strict construction.”
Yeah we need to raise your points as an election issue the Minute Men can’t support McCain if we point out that you can arrest all the immigrants today but if you don’t arrest the people who hire them then tomorrow not a single American will have been hired for a job.
Why because Bush, McCain and the plant owners spent all night hiring an other bunch of illegals.
Quaker girl hands on the screen good vibes, prayer hope it works we do miss you.
Exactly, but it is precisely like Alice In Wonderland. When they say strict constructionist it means exactly what they say it means and nothing more. Which is to say that they intend that the law is what they say it is and nothing more.
Obama: Rush Limbaugh, Lou Dobbs Responsible For Rise In Hate Crimes Against Hispanics
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....03315.html
Sounds like a core constituency within the Republican base.
8 months.
Let’s just get through the next 8 months.
Then AG Edwards can prosecute the lot of them.
(A boy can dream, can’t he?)
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Didn’t that get negated in the Protect America Act??? Seems to me that “evil twin” of the Patriot Act undid any Posse Comitatus laws, iir.
This is a very kewl take on the next 7 months. It’s not really TOOOO OT, and it’s funny, I thought you might enjoy reading it. It’s a quick read.
Maybe we could have a list of everyone who is sick, broke needs a job whatever and we could voluntarily if we wish offer them good vibes, prayer whatever if they volunteered their name for the list, just an idea.
Obama is addressing this very well. He is correct and it is astute politically in this case to speak the unvarnished truth. Its a good move.
Will Lou Dobbs, Glen Beck and Michelle Malkin mention that the plant owners got away scott free? Will the racist crusade stay on message and not look behind the curtain at the
Great OZKarl Rove pulling the strings.Good memory.
According to the link, that change has been repealed.
I would think the INS and other federal authorities would have had to have permission from the state of Iowa for the operation. If they didn’t have it, it sounds to me as though they were in violation. IANAL
They will stay on message. Its very easy for them to do so when everyone in the MSM will be on message with them. There will be no mention (in the MSM) of the plant’s role in the lawbreaking, blatent opportunism and the futherance of modern slavery.
Maricopa County - the county that Phoenix and suburbs reside have turned into an immigration hot bed….. Sheriff Joe has used country funds to divert his deputies from CRIME to rounding up brown people and literally emptying the country of Hispanics….. when this started my Hispanic neighbors across the street sold their home and left the state even though all the families were AMERICANS…..
The Gov has cut the Sheriff’s funding but now he set up a donation process for people across the country to fund his continual targeting anyone breathing, walking or driving while brown…
Other than the Phoenix New Times there is very little coverage other than Rah Rah rah for his actions as Sheriff Joe’s cousin is a top reporter at the AZ Repug newspaper…
That’s the sheriff with the tank(s). He has hurt people, damaged property and killed a dog. The rednecks think its cool.
We need to link Lou Dobbs and Glen Beck to the Nazi losers who blamed all of Germany’s problems after WW 1 on the Jews.
Is it our fault that Bush lost the Iraq war?
Is it our fault that gas prices are so high?
Is it our fault that under Bush’s rule employers are hiring immigrants and NOT GETTING ARRESTED.
Is it our fault that 30%er sheep are being led by their emotions and Lou’s 60 minutes? of hate to blame their problems not on the cause the people who WON’T HIRE THEM, but rather the poor powerless people driven to take such jobs.
True they will stay on message but the message didn’t help them the last election :)
So report his actions here at the Lake the GOP plan is to appeal to their 30%er base with red meat, while keeping the moderate voters ignorant of what the extreme things that they do and say to rile up the 30%ers.
Every extreme thing the GOP does that we can get moderate voters to pay attention to costs the GOP votes especially if the MSM picks up the story.
That plus pictures of a deranged cop running around like Tank Girl (god that movie sucked) can only help us.
Can’t comment. Still prostrate with grief we haven’t passed a free trade deal with Colombia.
(((Quaker Girl)))
David, thank you so much for this. I work with immigrants and refugees in a local school system and I know that they are terrified about raids like this.
In my private life, I am a somewhat observant Jew who keeps a kosher home. The Postville Agricorp plant provides a huge percentage of the kosher chicken and lunch meat available in most of the country, and I am arranging a boycott within the Jewish community, based on how the company treats its employees. We’ve begun with my house.
Please allow me a moment to show off my wordsmithing capabilities:
I hate these motherfuckers.
thank you.
Sheriff Joe would have a grand time here:
Think of the havoc he could wreak! He’d get a major chubbie at the prospect.
this probably goes without saying but,these are just trial runs for dealing with any social problems that might occur.Kent State on steroids.Any groups or organizations that expose or disrupt the “system” will be dealt with accordingly.Anyone can say anything they want,but as soon as you gain enough recognition to have an effect then your screwed.Any forms of civil disobedience will be targeted.
What if there was undeniable proof that the 2008 election was rigged and everybody flipped out? bingo, marshall law.
these are people trying to feed their family, the criminals as others have said are the owners of these facilities who hired their labor force
I wonder what would happen if we put the real criminals into that “holding facility”
A couple of weeks ago Bill Moyers did a show on the privatization of prisons. There are 2 or 3 huge companies in this prison business. Just like the other lobbyists they often write the crime bills. He noted that their next area of business interest is illegal immigrants. It is most profitable to keep their prisons full. Do you think this is a sign that they’ve moved into the phase of imprisoning immigrants?
Punish the rich and entitled? Not gonna happen. This is all for the benefit of the wingers anyway. Hope we can stop it after the election.
The Rove plan asserts that immigrants have taken all the good jobs. The Republican tax incentives and policy that outsourced the best jobs to India, China and elsewhere has nothing to do with our current employment problems. Its the Latinos!
Indeed. We need to shut up and start picking ag crops - our new service economy jobs.
These raids are practice for the Bush police state. If Bush can convince the army that the government should be overthrown in favor of Bush/McCain.
If the Army is dumb enough to support a coup well then we lost.
Not we the Left have lost but rather America as an idea will have lost.
Historians will mark America’s decline as starting on that day.
But on the bright side after the Coup Bush will jail all the Minute Men who complain about illegal workers after all Hitler had Jews working in his factories.
I think then that Mexicans will be trying to escape back to Mexico because under Bush working conditions will get worse.
The government (taxpayers) pay the prison corporation for every inmate. Its a great business - another Republican Privatization ponzi scheme. They get their money for nothing and their chicks for free. (Neil Bush, Pope Ratso’s pal, had Asi*n pr*stitutes just show up in his hotel room.)
I thought that you were a vegan?
I agree with your entire post except for tha line, historians will mark the decline of america on the day that the supreme court overturned the voters in this country and intiated their coup of our government
OT: Private Psychiatrists Offer Free Service To the Troops
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....tal_health
Bushco refuses to support the troops.
Neil Bush
As of October 2006, over 13 U.S. school districts (out of over 14,000 school districts nation-wide[7]) have used federal funds made available through the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 in order to buy Ignite’s products at $3,800 apiece. [8]
A December 2003 Style section article in the Washington Post reported that Bush’s salary from Ignite! was $180,000 per year.[3]
July 1999, Bush made at least $798,000 on three stock trades in a single day of a company where he had been employed as a consultant. The company, Kopin Corporation of Taunton, Massachusetts, announced good news about a new Asian client that sent its stock value soaring. Bush stated that he had no inside knowledge and that his financial advisor had recommended the trades. He said, “any increase in the price of the stock on that day was purely coincidental, meaning that I did not have any improper information.”
When asked in January 2004 about the stock trades, Bush contrasted the capital gains he reported in 1999 and 2000 with the capital losses on Kopin stock he reported ($287,722 in all) in 2001. In 2001 Kopin joined a broad decline in high-tech stock valuations.[16]
Asian Whores come to his door Asian stocks go up the day he buys they don’t say how much he bought just the profit?
The man sure is lucky?
Ok I amend my comment it ALL SCALIA’S FAULT:)
What the hell does the election have to do with it?
The corps are so deeply rooted in gov that the gov can’t function without them.Even if Obama is elected he won’t be able to do much to change things.The corps run things now!!
From blackwater to ICE to homeland security to intelligence to torture and more.Even SCOTUS is bought and sold.I better stop there
Well maybe not so lucky what is wealth if you don’t have your health?
From a deposition of Neil Bush in which he is grilled about his extramarital affairs by the attorney for his former wife Sharon–from New York Daily News :
Bush: “I had sexual intercourse with perhaps three or four, I don’t remember the exact number, women, at different times. In Thailand once, I have a pretty clear recollection that there was one time in Thailand and in Hong Kong.”
Brown: “And you were married to Mrs. Bush?”
Bush: “Yes.”
Brown: “Is that where you caught the venereal diseases?”
Bush: “No.”
Brown: “Where did you catch those?”
Bush: “Diseases plural? I didn’t catch…”
Brown: “Well, I’m sorry. How … how many venereal diseases do you suffer from?”
Bush: “I’ve had one venereal disease.”
Brown: “Which was?”
Bush: “Herpes.”
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2004/01/04/808/50069
Forgot the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Bush
He probably has a problem filling his dance card now with that little tidbit being made public.
But his messy divorce has produced some eye-opening disclosures. Among them: He had sex with women who showed up uninvited at his hotel rooms in Asia; he had an affair and may have fathered a child out of wedlock; and he stands to make millions from businesses in which he has little expertise — including a computer-chip company managed in part by the son of former Chinese president Jiang Zemin.
It seems certain opportunities tend to present themselves when your name is Neil Bush.
My bold
http://www.democraticundergrou.....15;1059320
This is real suspicious
Neil has already remarried I guess its treatable but the new wife must sure be trusting.
FYI - on my HBO lineup - Hacking the Vote will be on in 30 minutes… and Recount will be on for the first time tonight..
This is a very important point.
The Federal beauracracy is now absolutely riddled with bottom-feeding Republican hackfucks, and not only are they incompetent, but they are vicious and hateful, and they won’t be easily rooted out. If a Democrat takes over the executive branch in January 2009, it ain’t gonna be unicorns and fucking rainbows. It is going to be a difficult, drawn-out, nasty process of identifying these viciously incompetent America-hating right-wing follower moles, getting rid of them, and replacing them with competent experts who actually give a shit about America and the well-being of its citizens.
http://physioprof.wordpress.co.....ng-fucked/
{{{{Quaker Girl}}}}
Hiya Katy… was out PHX way last week, sorry I did not have a chance to get together. Hope all is well. Leaving for the Med soon?
No background but Neil gets a job as a consultant that sounds like bribery by paying the children? Is that legal do you have to show quid pro quo?
Or does the free money, hookers, inside information trip any bells?
Bush has gone on to reap profits from other ventures. In the deposition, he said he hoped to receive an estimated $2 million for acting as a consultant to Grace Semiconductor Manufacturing Corp., co-founded by Jiang Zemin’s eldest son.
“Now, you have absolutely no educational background in semiconductors, do you Mr. Bush?” Brown asked.
“That’s correct,” said Bush, who holds an MBA from Tulane University.
Still, said Rice University political science professor Bob Stein, “there is a family pattern here where the Bush sons — Jeb, Neil and George — have benefited tremendously by their connections through their father.”
Currying favor with a relative of the president can “start to smell bad,” said Steven Weiss, communications director for the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan group that tracks money in politics.
forgot the link again thats it time for a break
http://dir.salon.com/story/new.....index.html
The best way to root out the rotten republican apples will be to find the career employees they have walked over and ask them for help in identifying them. I’m sure that there is more than one or two dedicated federal employees out there willing to drop a dime Jan 21, 2009 on the hacks in their departments/agencies/divisions.
Heh, mebbe we ought to fund an 800 number for them to call…save them the dime … :-)
Very good idea!
June 26th…
Hey Dr.Kirk is upstairs ….
That gets real close doesn’t it.
Where in the hell would you begin?
Well, it is treatable but not curable. Like they say, love may die but Herpes is forever.
1,852 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Neiwert and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Thank you for the post…may I have another, it doesn’t hurt enough! I have appreciated your very important work on the definition and identification of authoritarian political movements in our country. You have developed for us a very workable definition of fascism that in my mind properly tracks this modern form of the political disease back to slavery and the American South and the end of reconstruction and the rise of political terrorism and it’s institution as a governing structure in the South.
The institutional machinery for the implementation of a fascist police state has existed for a long time and we have dodged that bullet several times in the last 75-80 years only by the skin of our teeth and the a division in the ruling oligarchy that had allowed for a semi-free press. There aren’t any divisions anymore in the ruling group of families who control the political economy and the media through the corporate structure. The ideological solidification of the domestic police forces, the disintegration of the state militias, the collapse of a productive employment economy and, of course, the buying of the Congress and courts have led us to the precipice on which we teeter right now.
The fascism we confront now is a political movement that has no intellectual foundation and no organized philosophy of governance…it is a political movement based on fear and physical power and it’s existence within the constitutional framework of government these last 8 years has allowed for the destruction or the complete corruption of all of the institutions, federal and local, that were designed to preserve the safety of the individual and mitigate against the consolidation of power by any faction. The immigration raids, then, are not a “harbinger” of a coming police state but the announcement of it’s arrival.
Now can we start callin’ the Republican party fascist and it’s followers and fellow travelers fascists? It seems to me that our only way out is to establish a political movement within the remainin political party that offers itself as an anti-fascist front and extends its arms to all those disenfranchised by the current authoritarian regime…and if ya look carefully enough, I think you will recognize that effort in Obama’s work to date. I am NOT optimistic about the success of this anti- fascist movement with out violent confrontations in the streets and some kind of organized resistance inside what is left of the public military. Remember, billions our tax dollars have gone to establishing and equipping a corporate mercenary army of over 100,000 while at the same time the government has been hollowing out the federal militia.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, FEAR IS JEST A WORD!!
the DOJ is a great example.If you spent years in law school and beleived in the rule of law and the constitution and devoted your life to it and then you run into someone like Monica Goodling,and your job is on the ropes because you won’t kiss her ass,I’d think you would might want to get even.
Love it!
The link from phisio prof@60 makes a great point that it ain’t gonna be “unicorns and rainbows”.
When you talk about violence you had better “know your song well before you start singin”.Words are cheap.
Your going to be asking people to beleive completely in your philosophy,die for it.Maybe that’s what it’s gonna take.
I fought in Viet Nam and beleive me war is fucked.
Citizen Strider:
I too participated in the Vietnam adventure in empire. My grampa Ole won a Purple Heart in the Ardennes Forest and my old man brought home a Purple Heart, Bronze and Silver Stars and a life of constant pain and emotional hell from the War in Europe. Trust me, I understand the “song of violence” and the dance of death it brings, I was up to my bloody neck in it for 12 months. I also know that people don’t have a choice when confronted by violent tyranny…you won’t hear me trumpeting the romance and heroism of the fight I am only warning of it’s inevitability.
Please identify your target before ya shoot yer mouth off!!
KEEP THE FAITH AND DON’T SHOOT THE MESSENGER!!
I’m not going to get into a pissing contest with you.
I agree with alot of what your saying. Your suggestion about “defining” Fascsim seems to be a very effective way to approach the problem.I mean, by defining fascism you expose it and can destroy it,maybe.
OK…I did not take the time to go through each and every comment, so if someone pointed this out, forgive me. Another thing about this raid in Iowa that really worries me is that this sort of stuff is another blow of the Administration that inures us to behaviors and unlawful and immoral uses of the law AND it also inures people in law enforcement bodies to performing these acts. People who usually should and do understand the concept of “we don’t do that” and “we can’t do that” all of a sudden ‘do’ and ‘can do’ stuff like this..and not only get away with it, but also get ‘attaboy’ for doing it. So, this deserves striking back in a big and powerful way at all levels so that everyone knows from the ground up that this is not acceptable and not lawful.