Joe Lieberman and Lindsey Graham appear to be in violation of the incredibly lax McCain Campaign "ethics" "rule," which states:
"No person with a McCain Campaign title or position may participate in a 527 or other independent entity that makes public communications that support or oppose any presidential candidate."
Lieberman co-chairs, with the odious Chris Shays, the Connecticut McCain committee. Graham chairs Closeted GOPs for McCain — just kidding, no, he is a general co-chair of the McCain Campaign. Those certainly sound like "McCain Campaign titles or positions."
Nico Pitney and Sam Stein at Huffington Post have discovered, though, that both Lieberman and Graham are on the Board of Advisers of Vets for Freedom, which advocates "victory" in Iraq. As is Max Boot, who advises McCain on foreign policy. You might remember this group because their leader made the unusual allusion to "Tiger Woods" when talking up McCain at an April rally addressed by all three of the War Musketeers:
“You can have your Tiger Woods,” David Bellavia, a former Army staff sergeant, told the crowd of pro-Iraq veterans. “We’ve got Senator McCain.”
That alone sounds like "a public communications that supports… any presidential candidate." But Vets for Freedom went farther on Friday.
In a commercial released on its website, the organization directly took on Obama over his willingness to negotiate with Iranian leadership.
"Obama wasn’t available to meet with us [combat veterans]," Sgt. Garrett Anderson (Ret.) of Illinois’ Army National Guard says to the camera. "But we weren’t surprised. Because he hasn’t once, sat down one-on-one with our in Iraq, Gen. Petraeus. Worse, he hasn’t been to Iraq in two-and-a-half years. He’s unwilling to get the facts on Iraq, yet he is willing to travel to Iran to meet with their leader or anyone else who hates our country… The question for America is, if Barack Obama won’t listen to us, who will he listen to?"
That sounds like "public communications that … oppose any presidential candidate" but the organization says no.
Pete Hegseth, the executive director for Vets for Freedom, said that far from being campaign-motivated, the advertisement was an issue-based criticism of Obama’s stance on the war.
See that? They aren’t criticizing Senator Obama because he’s a presidential candidate, they are criticizing him because of his stance on the war. It just appears to benefit Senator McCain, since McCain’s stance is VICTORY. And more war.
But shouldn’t Senator McCain’s two BFF ballwashers Lieberman and Graham, who travel everywhere with him, correct his misstatements of fact about the Iraq War and Iran’s involvement in it, and join the VeepRoast at Cindy’s ranch in Sedona this weekend — shouldn’t these two be held to the highest ethical standards?
Officials with the McCain campaign did not immediately return request for comment as to whether or not Lieberman and Graham’s positions violated the campaign’s new policy or, at the very least, the spirit of it.
Shouldn’t Lieberman and Graham either leave the board of Vets for Freedom or leave the McCain campaign? McCain’s own "ethics" "rule" says YES.
Calls to the offices of Lieberman and Graham, which are on recess schedule, were not answered
Enjoy the barbecue and ballwashing, boys. Sounds like your days on the Straight Talk Express might be coming to an end. We wouldn’t expect either of you to desert our Veterans for Freedom, after all.
UPDATE: Steven R has this story at DKos as well.
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Teddy!
…off to read
Come on now, Teddy. You know this is not a violation of McCain’s ethics standards, because he does not have any.
OT, but have you boys set a date now that the Cali Supremes have greenlighted you?
Teddy!
Don’t hold your breath Teddy. McCain’s so called ethics are extremely elastic.
Um … does the rule apply to people who have no ethics in the first place ? *g*
((( Teddy )))
Hi double-ell — as the first here you are also newly responsible for telling those downstairs that there’s a new post. Apparently the new-post-autobot-announcement did not survive Friday’s transition to the new servers.
Hello, Dr(pause)Dick, no we haven’t, as we’re waiting to see if the haters get an injunction. Having had our date snatched from us more than four years ago, we don’t want to be disappointed again. Of course, we recently celebrated our seventh year together, and you know what they say about the Itch! (kidding!)
((( DrD )))
Do I owe you a Dr. Pepper ?
Oh damn, sorry ’bout that Teddy. Taking care of it now!
i let em know ll :)
Well good luck to you. I really hope that this is the start of a sea change.
Hello, Suzanne. How’s your weekend going?
Hi, mm — I think we should work to put Joe and Lindsey in a box: pick the Veterans or pick McCain, but you can’t have both.
Hello, Petro, yes, the no-ethics thing is hard for McCain, now newly ethical. It’s fun seeing influence-peddler Rick Davis and influence-peddler Charlie Black go on and on every day about the no-good week McCain’s had over influence-peddlers.
McCain’s thrown lobbyists under the Straight Talk Express, and he’s thrown the wacko pastors under there too. Who’s next, Cindy?
Make it something uncarbonated (unless it is one of those nice Canadian beers y’all have).
Just saw that Suz, thank you :-)
I’d gotten spoiled by the auto-notification.
so did backstage :(
Funny thing, I thought McCain got ethics after that messy Keating 5 scandal. Guess that was all for show…who could have imagined?!
It’s gonna be another “no one could have anticipated” Presidency unless Democrats win this fall!
Teddy, I’m not as eloquent or reasoned as so many other commenters here; all I can say is “great post”. McCain et al just make me seethe.
Passing you one of our finest …
Hey LL, any news on the barn cats?
I bet JoeLie will still be hard at work trying to bring da troops home ? /s
((((( LL )))))
There there, have a draft on me @ 18 …
Mmmmmmmmm. *smacks lips* That hits the spot. ;-)
I guess I’m not around here enough to know that you were waiting on a date, TSF. I’m happy for you that the CaliSupremes had some balls. Hope the yahoos don’t stop – or delay any loinger -you or anyone else from getting married. I think gay people can revolutionize marriage and make it better — lose the chicken dance, OK? Promise me.
Seriously, wedding days are one of the most special days in anyone’s life. Only rtight that you get to know that first hand and hope it happens for you asap.
BTW, great post. We can’t underestimate this “victory” shit. Americans are,in large part, kinda stooopid like that.
Why, thank you~!
How long is it until CT has the chance to send JoeLie into a well deserved retirement? Damn, he is such a wanker.
hey suze.
ll dugg ya teddy, and i seconded her
And to further show my appreciation, it’s been Dugg!
hey bfl… hey pups
Four more years unless he suddenly gets a conscience. NOT
Just finished watching HBO’s “Recount”, it will be shown again in a couple hrs at 1 am and tomorrow at 1 pm and 9 pm.
I also watched CNN’s Special Investigations “The First Patient: Health & the Presidency”. It’s on now at CNN. Good show, makes one think abount the mental health and age of a candiate. Good job CNN.
Ooooh, lovely! (((( Petro ))))
Well the momcat is preggers — my friend says she is due within a matter of days. I’ll go visit them a little while after they’re born :-)
Damn. It would really be a shame if the Dems picked up enough of a majority in the next election to boot him across the aisle. What a come down that would be for poor Joe. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy IMHO.
Bring home one for me!
Great post Teddy, thank you very much.;)
Should we agree to not bring our kitty litter talk to the Lake?
We also need to have Harry Reid grow a pair and strip him of all his committee assignments. He. Is. Not. A. Democrat. He does not get to play with the good kids, but has to sit in the corner and pick his nose. The Democratic leadership really needs to get over this false “commity” bullshit. That can only work if both sides play and the Rethugs do not.
hojo deserves a cubicle in the senate basement and no committee assignments
I know it’s OT, but if you missed “Recount”, watch the rerun.
Ok Margot ;-)
Sorry Gnome, I was just answering MM’s question.
And a really crappy parking spot. In a lot, far, far away.
who hojo?
Yep
hojo = lieberman
I was using reverse psychology, seeing if we can annoy the mods here, too! ;-) I was one of the worst offenders yesterday with my tales of kitty woe.
In Pittsburgh or maybe Gary, IN, perhaps.
There is the lobby then there is the cloakroom and Joe and Lindsey are in the cloakroom with Johnny.
I like the evil way your mind works!
Betcha the Senate Democrats get to fifty-eight, and need Bernie Sanders and Lieberman to get to sixty. It’ll be the same whining from Harry Reid again, about how we can’t get anything done without sixty votes. And how important Joe is, and how “he’s with us on everything but the war,” which is far from true but still the song Harry sings about him.
fat chance
*sigh*
Kitties okay, sports not so much.
He’s also pretending to throw Bush under the StraitTalk Express. (It’s all a joke!)
ya hear that lurk – teddy said kittys are ok
*taking glare off stun*
Pick his nose?
Isn’t Obama talking “commity bullshit”? Don’t get me wrong. I support him. I think he will reach out to Republicans, get nothing in return from them and he’ll tell them to piss off — especially if there are more Dems in congress. Diference between Obama and Reid, I hope, is that Obama won’t come back for more if he gets shat on.
This is apparently the most awarded Beer in Toronto … and I nevvuh lie … *g*
Really? Oh jeez. Far away parking space? He should be made to ride the Metro. And pay for it.
I fear you are correct here. They simply refuse to see that he is a greater liability than an asset and has never been a reliable ally. It is this bullshit collegiality that infests so many of our leadership. Again that only works if both sides play.
You have to sympathize with McBush- he will either follow or break any rule and either say or not say anything in order to be president- so it’s NOT HIS FAULT- he’s just doin the hard work to get elected. If it happens to be illegal or immoral- well it ain’t as if he MEANS it.
It’s in the updated Mod handbook, page 453, 3rd paragraph.
Dugg it too. This is really cool, Teddy. Hadn’t thought about the Lindsay/Lieb connections to the lobbyists. Are both spouses lobbyists?
fork, i’m so behind in my reading… let’s just keep that between us, lurk, ok
Yes, but if (spaghetti monster willing) we get a Dem President and continue with a Dem majority in the House then it will only take a Senate leader with the cajones to call the GOP bluff if and when it occurs. The GOP members will whine and stomp and hold their breath of course, that’s what petulant toddlers do. Then the grownups will step in, time-outs will be given out and progress will be achieved.
Yeah, I have my moments of optomism, sue me :)
So, here’s me, all alone. Wife and kids away. And what happens/ I notice this morning that, jeez, I don’t think I’ve seen the cat for…… like, a day, maybe? It’s my daughter’s cat.
You guys have a Mod handbook?
I’m still waiting for my Liberal Agenda.
I bet I can get one from Rush Limpball but I don’t wanna be a bother.
… which Bush’s signing statement overrules …
*ducks under lead Bunker/Desk*
That is actually one of the things that irritates me about Obama, though I do support him. On the other hand I have seen signs of late, in his responses to BS from the McCain campaign, that he actually has a spine and is willing to call bullshit on them. Remains to be seen how this will develop.
I think Joe’s recent WSJ op-ed comparing Democrats to appeasing terrorist gay Mexicans, or whatever, got some of his caucus pretty upset, Biden for one. And I hope he gives a stemwinder keynote speech at the GOP St Paul party — and challenges Chris Matthews to a duel, like Zell did!~
Do you get a pony if you get 60 votes for dem leadership?
You can break a filibuster with 60 votes but that’s a different issue- and it takes 67 to overide a veto I think- so really- when it comes to the vote for leadership- you are either in control or not- no bonus points that I know of.
Liberman’s spouse is a lobbyist for BigPharma.
Lindsey’s spouse? There is no gay marriage in South Carolina.
maybe she heard about your attempt at hotdogs and mac salad and took over for a neighbors until its safe to come home? (trying to put positive spin on it)
Good night all, gotta work tomorrow. Thanks again Teddy.
Um … wasn’t it to have gay sex in the church while burning the flag and surrendering to the terrists ? *g*
i’m still waiting for my soros check
Only if Matthews takes him up on it. ;-)
Me too. After Reid, i just hope he doern’t do much of the same. I can’t imagine that. I mean, Obama couldn’t have been topo happy with Reid. Could he?
I think he is aware enough to see that it is very difficult to play nice wth those who refuse to do the same. Hopefully, he will make the effort, and if rebuffed, will play hardball. I hope.
BFL-you better find that kitty, and before the wife and daughter come home.
You forgot about the cheese.
I was thinking more like a broom closet in the basement … with the brooms still in it. And the mopbucket, with the mop and the mop water in it.
Well, I’m hoping the Democrats won’t need to override vetoes, because I’m hoping for a Democratic President. But with 60 votes on cloture, Mitch McConnell will become irrelevant.
Teddy,
You got a date set yet? And are we going to see photos?
Jeez, you’d think the very least he could do is buy your little cabin in the redwoods. He’s throwing money all over the blogosphere, after all!
I’ve been spending some time on Silver State blogs urging the Majority Leader to step down from his national role in order to defend his Senate seat in 2010. We don’t want a repeat of Tom Daschle. We need a Majority Leader from a safe seat — and we need a pro-choice Majority Leader.
Yes, but having 60 dems seated- or even 60 seated senators who voted for dem leadership- doesn’t mean that they will have 60 cloture votes on any given issue- unless someone starts gettin all autocratic an threatening about it like the goopers did.
How are you doing, Beerfart? Chin up!
Hi Matt! — see my 6 regarding a date.
And of course there will be lotsa photos, when it happens.
I’m still waiting for my “stimulus check” with a social ending in 15….
well, it’s a he. and ya know what? the mac salad came out OK after all. Now the hot dogs……. They were OK for having been cooked on the stove. So i get my dogs, salad, watermellon and lemonade all ready to go sit down and watch Recount. Need one more, last thing…….. THERE’S NO MUSTARD!!!!! Aaaaaaagggghhhhh!!
The cat must have gotten out the back door last night when I was on the patio. I didn’t see him. Went back in. He was outside this morning. treated him nice – extra attention. The doxie got jealous.
i haven’t gotten mine either
He got locked out last night. he was out in the garden. I think he ate something because there was cat barf by the front door. The kid will never know.
Boil the dogs- that’s what they do at the ballpark an no one complains- in fact- they sometimes boil em once on friday an then boil em up again on saturday if they ain’t sold. No one minds.
Course they have BIG beers with them dogs.
The wife won’t know either.
dauschxie?
I was supposed to be in the first group, having filed electronically. Has anyone been stimulated?
What! No one ever told me that when I swore my allegiance to World Domination Through Democratic Victories. I mean, checked the little “Democratic” box on the voter registration form.
My mom told me once that, early in their marriage, my dad sat her down and explained that no-mustard was grounds for divorce. She laughed, and he said — no, really, there must always be mustard in the house.
My dad was very serious about very little. I suspect mustard was just one of those things he was very serious about.
i could NOT believe McConnell got re elected! OMG. i talk regularly with a friend in KY and she said NO ONE can stand him. She was incredulous.
WHAT a bummer! i had faith and HOPE for the “Ditch Mitch” campaign!
*sigh*
MAYBE he can be busted or something with his wife being in the Bu$h misAdministration…….
maybe?????
Yeah, but not that way.
hojo had a little part in Recount — in the role of a stupid, backstabbing asshole. anybody see that? was that true that he went on MTP and said something he hadn’t cleared with Gore about the absentee ballots?
Picked up my precinct supplies today- I’m the Precinct inspector for June, 3rd..
Forgot to leave town when they was askin fer volunteers.
This means three hours of work the night before followed by a 16 hour election day…
I’m gonna be toast.
I still haven’t received my vote-by-mail ballot. I suspect we got signed up wrong when we voted early during the February primary. Probably all the Edwards voters’ applications to vote-by-mail got thrown away.
Laugh-in’s Dick Martin dead at 86.
“Say goodnight, Dick….”
That’s all I got.
I filed electronically and got mine about a week ago. Already gone, sadly.
He is up for election this fall, against the faux-Democrat Bruce Lunsford.
He hasn’t been re-elected yet has he?
Yes.
LOL … ((((( Margot )))))
LOL. it’s true. And I will not — NOT — put ketchuip on a hot dog. I’m the only one in this house who eats mustard so if we run out, the weife won’t buy it unless I make a big deal about it. i thought she had a couple in the pantry.
Yep. In the second week. Immediately stuck it in the savings account.
When I get my bribe from the govt. I’m gonna use it to buy a barrel of tequila for the goodbye Bush party.
Well, I suppose you could just move out while she’s away. That’ll learn her.
Mustard is vital to a civilized existence. I use it all the time, and not that weak yelllow stuff, the good spicy brown mustard with some kick to it.
… we’ll be with you in spirit(s) … *g*
since you are the only one who uses it, why don’t you buy it – that way you are guaranteed to always have the brand you like at home in adequate amounts
McShame has no business telling anyone how to keep America safe. Because of the republics, Iran, is stronger. The Taliban is making a comeback because the cowboy and his ilk have been distracted in Iraq. North Korea, where the madman who had 1 to 2 nuclear weapons now has 8 to 11, The madman is stronger because of republican cowboy diplomacy.
Are people really going to be stupid enough to buy this sack of shit again?
Wow. i was thinking about that today and how things might have been different andf what would have happened to lieberman and what kind of VP would he have made, etc….. I was wondering when he became such an asshole. i figured he couldn’t have been too bad back then if Gore put him on thne ticket. Wrong, i guess.
oh, THANK GOD. so he’s NOT re-elected at this poing?! I’m thinkin’ maybe my friend was referring to his LAST election. She was mightelly disappointed in the primary show in KY, maybe she was just on a general roll with disgust. I can relate, i get that way. but thank God he’s not re seated at this point in time. there’s still hope. a really BAD dem couldn’t be worse than mitch!
You mean we are not alone here in Montana as last in the country?
A Pox on the houses of the self-rightous bigots!
or you can offer to buy all the feminine hygiene products for the house if she buys mustard
Wonder how big a barrel of Tequila you can get for $600?
Let’s say $40 per gallon–that’d be about 15 gallons- right? Course maybe I can get a volume discount—OK- I’m lookin for 25 gallons.
Mars, bitchez:
That sounds like you are disrupting the balance between gender roles, Suz!
I used to watch him on Laugh-in. That was a real gift to the Nation.
well, a few things….. 1) I’m not really picky abouty brands, although I like Kosciusko best; 2) i would have bought some if I knew we were out; and 3) it’s onhe of those things that the wife buys a few of at a time when it’s on sale. there’s usually some around.
Oh, no — California had our Presidential primary in February. In June, we have a local primary. It just isn’t California unless we have at least three elections per year!
Based on the nuymber of times she’s called, i don’t think she’ll notice.
sorry teddy
i’m still learning the boundaries since i no longer have to sit quietly with my eyes downcast and not speak until spoken to.
StraitJacket Express
see, you know how FL got all in trouble by having it’s primarty too early becaue that’s when the Republican legislature scheduled election day? so why didn’t they have just the primary on another day? I think everyone involved in that decision figured (correctly) that Floridians are too stoopid to handle more than one election.
ROFL
((((( Mary )))))
Good evening all. Teddy, did you expect to find anything ethical in that campaign?
thanks, TSF. some womens need to be learnt.
If you are celebrating the deBushment, you really need to spring for the good stuff. Goes for about $50 per 750l.
He was a brilliant part of a show that made me realize how powerful humor could be …
Jumping in here without reading beyond skimming — anyone see Recount?
baxck to Recount. Ya know the part in about the middle where they show the speaker of the FL house saying after 12/12 the Legislature would vote to give FL’s electoral votes to Bush? That sleezeball is now my congresscritter.
THIS was the MOST rockin’est news in the news today!!! To be sure.
Thank You, TeddySanFran!
:)
Yeah but is there a worm in it? *shudder*
On that somewhat icky thought I am off to bed.
Nope … revisiting that dark moment in history makes my stomach turn … how was it ?
g’nite madmommy
COUNTING THE VOTE: THE ABSENTEE BALLOTS; Military Ballots Merit a Review, Lieberman Says
By RICHARD PEREZ-PENA
Published: November 20, 2000
…
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/f…..A9669C8B63
You lucky boy, you. My congress critter is Denny Rehberg, an undistinguished Rethug tool of the lobbyists and all Bush all the time.
God. I learnt something about just how much an asshole Lieberperson is. Bigger than i thought.
Remember how quick Laugh-In seemed to be at the time? If you get a chance, watch it sometime. It really plods along. Makes me realize just how sloooooow teevee was then.
Nope and it is as smooth as a baby’s ass.
Thanks. In my 144, I said the program was God. It wasn’t THAT good. But it was good.
The answer is yes, see 142. I forgot to click reply after I signed in so it isn’t attached to your post.
We had to weigh how we might feel seeing this. I finally said that there was too much I did not know about the whole thing given my disgust at the time. It was really good, and my hatred for Joe Liberman now knows NO LIMITS.
they have a bunch of laugh-in stuff on the utubes. some pretty good stuff there – i particularly like the compilation videos of the quickies
Whaddya sayin’ BFL?
;~P
Is Suzanne still here? Or has she gone outside to howl at the moon?
I think BFL was kidding you, Suzanne.
First group was those who had direct deposit refunds. Means of filing had no bearing. I’m a 38 so mayhaps by New Year’s.
i filed electronically, paid electronically, and am a 35 – still nothing.
sorry, was filling a certain brain bleach personal sized container with a noxious substance
I am stimulated! Haven’t even spent it yet.
I think the NSA van must be sitting on your bank’s intertoobz.
Please pass any brain altering substance you may have on hand.
Chinese mustard is yellow and it’ll burn yer lips off.
I heart Kevin Spacey.
1) Floridians are dopes.
2) I live in gerrymandered district (FL-24)that was made special for Tom Feeney when he left the FL legislature.
girlfriend, you don’t want any of the special brew i was working on
Yep, the first time I saw Ben Hur, I thought it was incredible but last year, I started to watch it with my nephew and 15 minutes in, I wanted to pull my eyeballs out … *g*
Ah, another one for the one word answer man: Yes.
I think she knows.
Hi mary!
ok, then, never mind!
kinda like this stuff
Is it the kind I keep threatening to send to my ex?
Hi TSF! How are things cooking in The City?
i just wanted French’s. Winn-Dixie store brand. Anything. Know what? I was supposed to put mustard in the mac salad.
if she’s a *real* girlfriend, she oughta be makin’ her OWN decision bout that. I think.
:)
From the Cousins across the Pond: From The Guardian
John McCain’s version – draft thm for the endless wars.
since when have they called SF “The City”?? I remember when te Warriors had those call uniforms tghat said “The City” and had the guys’ numbers inside cable cars on the back.
He reminds me of Gregory Peck … doesn’t seem to try, which is the mark of an exceptional actor.
Did you look for DRY mustard in the cupboard- mix it with a little oil and yer in business.
I might be able to help you out there….
As teenagers we used to go drink and lay down on Marie LaVeau’s tomb. Swary. fun. stupid.
Ever since I can remember.
He said that he learned a great deal about politics during this taping. And I just love him.
We always call it The City — I think Herb Caen started it. It must bug San Jose no end, since they are now way bigger.
didn’t mean to bring sports into it, TSF. That was more a SF question tan a sports question. i thought.
Snotty folks called it the city. Eddie Izzard makes fun of the term.
Then on Windowpane or Orange Sunshine, now on…
But Teddy isn’t snotty. He just doesn’t know any better.
I get like that about mustard. Even left a restaurant because they didn’t have mustard–didn’t have mustard?!
Shared an office once with a guy from “the city”. If you wanted to push him over the edge- just say “Frisco”..
Don’t say that in front of RonD!
He lives in London now, he told Keith.
I hope he’s found some happiness there, away from TMZ and prying eyes. Although I’d like him to come out, he seems incapable of it for some reason.
Twue. Twue.
Rumour has it you fall in my group, supposedly being mailed out 6 June.
Coolest jersy in the history of sports, maybe. basketball, at least.
There’s a town on the Outer Banks of North Carolina named Frisco — I used to mail postcards to all my SF friends from there when we visited, just to bug them.
http://www.onlinesports.com/pa…..6H-24.html
Teddy, I agree. Sigh.
There’s also a town near Dallas, Tx. named “Frisco”…
You could send the mail there- but they don’t read much.
I’ve heard they don’t like that. I grew up seeing it in the sports pages in NY all the time in the headlines. Didn’t know it was offensive.
Everything in its own time…… as long as he is happy and at peace….
Hi Chris!
No, didn’t see Recount because I don’t get HBO, but you liked it? We will look for it to come out on DVD.
we don’t have HBO either. hoping to catch it some other way.
Just to clarify- It ain’t that they CAIN’T read- it’s just that they got better things ta do.
I’m gonna go have some Wheaties and go to bed. I have a big day of cleaning up tomorrow. If you remember Oscar Madison’s apartment. Before Feliox moved in. I don’t think wifey wants to come homw to that. Although, I did make macaroni salad and bought watermellon.
It’s sacriligious among other things- a hacked up shortenin of the name of a blessed Saint.
Barf Alert…… local news in a tizzy because Bush is coming to Phoenix…BBQ at the Kept Man’s place is over…… protesters are meeting daily getting their signs ready…. carpooling to the protest…. and the Defense contractor is QUITE proud to host Mr 23% and is mini-me…
Think I will toddle off to bed. Went out to hear some friends play last night and stayed up way past my bedtime, which is now catching up to me.
Hi Margot! Yes we did. The actors were wonderful, and Laura Dern as Catherine Harris was fab. Love Kevin Spacey and really, everyone. Found out that the real threat to democracy is Joe Lieberman.
I liked it. very good. That was Laura Dern underneath all that makeup?
night BFL. night Dr D
And made a shopping list!
g’nite dr dick
Got a replica right here. Worked really hard at it.
g’nite bfl
Will the protesters be permitted close to the private homes where they’ll be scooping up the ill-gotten gains?
Ever try mustard on Wheaties?
I’m turning in, too. Nite Dr.D. Night veryone. Thanks for keeping me company today guys. Hope you get the marriage you deserve soon, Teddy.
It was good to remind every one about that stolen election, since many think the repugs didn’t gain all that presidential power just to hand it over to the Dems. I made my teenager watch it because in the next election we’ll have another voter. And there are many GOPers and Independents now so disillusioned with bush that they may open up their minds and listen and maybe understand how we/they were duped.
Thanks, I’m keeping the barf bowl handy.
LOL
LOL. You guys are carckin’ me up here.
I don’t think I can watch Recount. It seems so masochistic to relive those days. Even seeing the ads for it makes me crazy.
Did I tell ya the cat barfed?
They found out it will be head at Silverado Cable which magically is a Defense Contractor which has really BRAGS how much he has benefited by Mr 23%… The protest will be right across the street…… 2-4 pm on Tuesday… Film at 5 & 6pm is expected..
All you Padre fans out there- the Padres won a game- took em 18 innings- a major victory for the worst team in baseball.
But I agree that those who have repented, or don’t remember those times, should probably watch it. Including remorseful GOPs.
And the young. Especially the young.
I have, many times. It’s best with milk and sugar. Mmm Mmmm, Mmmmm. Wheaties with mustard.
Barf bowl handy.
teddy has requested that sports talk be saved for the late late nite thread and not chatted about on this one
I kinda missed all that the first time. Was right after I became disabled and I was trying to juggle way too much. I voted, but didn’t pay careful enough attention to all that followed.
“you can have yer Tiger Woods”
Well gee- thanks but who the fuck are you ta be makin a gift of the world’s most succussful athlete you chicken crotch?
Oh great. Better have that cleaned up before the wife returns, BF.
next sports talk will be moderated, rw.
oops
Not only that Tiger was an honor student at Standford University with a promising academic career and quit to go pro before he graduated…… That he maneuvered it into a million dollar career …. in a predominantly White sport is not relevant….. NOT
Actually, that was in the post.
I would respond to that if I could.
my apologies. you are correct loohoo
my apologies for the tiger woods, rw, but baseball is a no-no
“Career Opportunitie”s by The Clash/a>
BUT but but…. it was IN the post?
please see my retraction at 235
Tiger Woods’ cookies wouldn’t get me in trouble, would they?? *** she asks innocently ***
I guess talk about the wiffle ball play offs is out.
Over and over again someone working for McBush has done some intro that has been pretty racist and/or using “code” words that imply it…
Too pretty to eat, almost.
I didn’t understand that comment. By it does he imply that Obama is a superhero? I can’t see anyone thinking McCaint is anything better than a toad. (My apologies to the toads in the audience.)
I think this 527 is showing us the way the game will be played even if there is an FEC to complain to: “But officer, I was advertising about my issue, not about the presidential campaign!” I thought there was a rule about mentioning candidate names, but I guess the Vets for Freedom guy broke that rule when he mentioned Tiger and McStain at the rally.
You won’t see VoteVets or IAWV make any explicit ads for the Democrats, but the GOP side will play nasty, that’s for sure.
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HEY! I found all the f’s that are missing. Will they be back?
The good thing is that the people who respond to those racist code words are dying off or being ignored. Lots of young, enthusiastic voters to replace them.
try these.
I really don’t think that The Village understands how completely done most of the country is with their tin ears and hollow bullshit. McBush is history. Screw the old bastard and his racist mumblings. Fuckery. Boring, dated fuckery.
OT: During a Friday interview, Hillary Clinton expressed bewilderment at calls for her to drop out:
In today’s NYT, Hillary objects that she was quoted out of context:
And according to Terry McAuliffe on Fox News Sunday:
But, the context is that Hillary has announced that if she cannot win a majority of delegates under the current rules, she will stay in the race and fight for a rule change at the Convention in August. So, there’s no point to her talking about June timelines. They are completely irrelevant. The only relevant point in her comment was that misfortune has previously befallen the leading candidate late in a Democratic campaign. The implication being that it might happen again this year.
Here’s some further context:
– The 1992 campaign began with the New Hampshire primary in mid-February (six weeks later than this year’s campaign), and per the Wikipedia: “[Bill] Clinton effectively won the Democratic Party’s nomination after winning the New York Primary in early April.”
– The 1968 campaign started in mid-March (ten weeks later than this year’s campaign), and Kennedy was assassinated less than three months later.
– In neither case did any candidate suggest an intention to fight on the floor of the convention for a rule change, if there were no other way for them to amass a majority of delegates.
And FWIW:
– Currently, there are 287 uncommitted delegates. Obama needs 49 more to reach a majority. Clinton needs more than five times that many, specifically 246.
– Most of the 110 delegates from PR, SD, and MT will will be allocated by primaries within the next week and a half, i.e., before June 4.
huh? is that a riff off the rumor that w started that 42 stole all the w’s off the keyboard when leaving office?
It was a racist statement. Tiger is a successful, good looking, accomplished black man, and so is Obama. That’s the only connection I can figure out.
Hey, but he’s got MCCANE! Whoo hoo!
Jeff Toobin on Moyer’s Friday night discussed McCain’s use of code words to inform the base that he supported overturning Roe v Wade, Affirmative Action, etc. The war and the Supreme Court. Those are the stakes. Interesting discussion.
If that was a dog whistle, then these folks are even lamer than I thought.
I think BIRACIAL is what they were aiming at.
I think, specifically, it was a dog-whistle about both Tiger and Obama being of mixed-race heritage.
Even multinational
Coke!
you owe me one? i’ll take a diet coke some time during netroots nation, if that’s ok.
No, all of the Facebook Fs are missing fdler’s names
light bulg glowing
duh! you are correct. i’ll add it to the list for the tech guys. guess the f’s didn’t transfer over when we did the server thingie fri night
thanks
Mine’s still there. Now I feel stupid. Was I supposed to delist myself?
prolly shoulda said ‘missing from fdler’s names’
I see f’s!
Mine’s still there.
some f’s but tex’s is missing. looks like maybe only some of them transferred over. if you are missing an f, check your profile to make sure it is there.
Your f is showing, Suzanne.
Linky works as well.
Maybe it is a browser issue. or non issue of f’s.
I ran mine off back in December.
I don’t see Fs on anyone’s name
i think that is possible mary mc
what browser are you using skeptic?
In FF and have my F…
Who hte hell’s on Late Late night? I wanna talk about cookin! I did my best racks of spare ribs EVAH today!
unclaimed zed upstairs
Once a f always a f.
Syze, I’m on IE
No it isnt… :)
I also neeeeeed preview. Ok, I should at least look it over before I submit!
My fav part of HBO’s “Recount” was the bit about (paraphrasing) the stains of Clinton will be gone and honor and dignity will be back”. How wrong they were. “Recount” is on now on HBO.