[Please welcome author Chris Myers Asch in our comments today. -- DN]
In most regards, the story that Chris Myers Asch details in the riveting and remarkable The Senator and the Sharecropper: The Freedom Struggles of James O. Eastland and Fannie Lou Hamer is a tale of the South. Populated largely with African Americans fighting for their civil rights and racist whites fighting to keep them under their collective thumbs, from the outside it has all the trappings of a classic civil-rights-era story set in Dixie.
But in Asch’s capable hands, it becomes much more. Even though it is focused on a particular patch of land — Sunflower County, Mississippi — there is a universal American quality to the cultural landscape he describes, one in which economics and race collide and collude to create an institutionalized divide that leaves a cloud over us all. Sunflower County is a distinctly Southern place — cotton fields and swamps and small towns — but its social landscape is awfully familiar to all Americans, one in which racism is rarely given public expression but it still maintains its awful, silent grip on the community. And as Asch explains, this is not a healthy thing.
The book, as its title suggests, is focused on the lives of two people: James O. Eastland, the U.S. Senator from Mississippi who was raised in Sunflower County and who was one of the most ardent and effective advocates of white supremacy, Jim Crow, and segregation in the nation for much of the first half of the last century and well into its second half too; and Fannie Lou Hamer, the celebrated civil-rights activist who fought for black voting rights and was perhaps most famous for uttering the immortal line that she was "sick and tired of being sick and tired" — which also is the epitaph on her tombstone.
Through the lens of these two people’s lives, Asch gives flesh and blood to a story most of us know only from its bare bones: the struggle of Southern blacks, through decades of oppression, to gain the most fundamental civil rights, and to overcome the noxious effects of Jim Crow, segregation, and the terroristic thread of lynching that hung over the heads of every one of them. Hamer, not surprisingly, comes off as the heroine she genuinely is, but Asch is careful to portray her as the complicated person, warts and all, every historical figure is.
Eastland is a tougher row to hoe; Asch attempts to humanize the senator and does a reasonably good job of it, but in the end it’s impossible to overlook his essential monstrousness. The scion of a well-to-do Sunflower family — his father, as Asch recounts, led a lynch mob that killed four innocent black people as though they were insects en route to the horrific public torture/immolation/lynching of the two blacks responsible for the murder of his brother (for whom the senator-to-be was named) — Eastland was a vicious and unapologetic racist, capable of spewing the kind of bigoted hatred that is now the stuff of Southern cliche. Yet he was more effective than most other ardent segregationists in that he learned how to move up in the halls of power until he became one of America’s most powerful men. His longstanding animus to black civil rights played a significant role in how he shaped the nation’s court system as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee beginning in 1956 and continuing all the way through 1977. His legacy, in many regards, remains with us today.
For that matter, so do the essential undercurrents of how the civil-rights struggle played out. Because, as Asch explains, Sunflower County is outwardly as unsegregated as anywhere else in America — but it doesn’t take long to discover that the racial divide there is as deep as it ever has been. Some of this he lays at the feet of the continuing efforts of the white majority to (in classic Southern lexicon) "keep the niggers down", but some of it can also be fairly laid at the failures of everyone else to keep fighting the way Fannie Lou Hamer fought. The civil-rights legislation of the 1960s was a good start, but little has been done to effectively follow up on it — particularly to dismantle the institutional and economic pressures that were always part of the foundations of white supremacy in the first place.
As Asch writes:
The struggles in Sunflower County had been intense, sustained, and often violent, and they had transformed the area in ways that I could not grasp when I first arrived. And yet the culture of segregation, among both blacks and whites, and the economic advantages that white supremacy had bestowed upon Sunflower County whites remained firmly entrenched even in the late twentieth century.
In that respect, Sunflower County is very much like the rest of America in terms of its racial landscape — perhaps in a more intensely crystallized form, but present nonetheless. We need only look at the residential segregation, job discrimination, and continuing impoverishment of minorities that persists in every quarter of the country to recognize it. If you take the time to read The Senator and the Sharecropper – and it is a compelling, fast-moving read — you’ll recognize it too.



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Chris, welcome to the Lake.
Thanks for the opportunity to talk about my book.
I probably didn’t explain to readers how superbly written it is. It’s all very compelling, and the last chapter in particular is very powerful. Nice work, Chris.
I noticed that James Loewen, who authored Sundown Towns, wrote a nice blurb for the book. You can certainly see the crosscurrent in your themes, especially when you talk about the kinds of forces that keep white supremacy institutionalized in America and keep blacks at an economic and cultural disadvantage.
Thanks, David. One of the reasons that I chose The New Press, rather than an academic press, was because I wanted the book to reach a general audience — smart, thoughtful people who do not have any interest in jargon and academic squabbles. As a teacher, I always valued books that could explain complex ideas in down-to-earth language.
Loewen wrote that wonderful book I wish I had written — Lies My Teacher Told Me. He’s a great example of someone who can tackles difficult issues without succumbing to jargon-laden prose.
Well, your book is very much the same. You tackle the subject with a great deal of forthrightness, and you don’t shy away from nuance and complexity, which is what makes it flesh out so beautifully.
Welcome to FDL, Mr. Asch. Sorry for the quiet. Looks like everyone is still arguing downstairs.
Since Dave mentioned that you try to humanize Senator Eastland, what do you think were his redeeming features, if any? Or did you humanize him by making his motivations more understandable?
Chris – Thank you so much for coming by to talk about your book. Is there anyone still on the bench that is a holdover from Sen. Eastland’s period on the Judiciary Committee?
Mr Asch, welcome to FDL.
I have not had the chance to read your book but based on Dave’s write-up, why do you think the AAs in Sunflower County are not continuing Ms Hamer’s fight?
Some combination of fear or just worn out by beating their heads against the wall?
I remember Senator Eastland very well and can’t think if a single redeeming feature. In my opinion he was truly a monster. But I am glad you have written the book and I’ll read it. Thanks.
This looks like a fabulous book, David.
Welcome Mr. Asch.
Since I have not had the opportunity to read your book, can you gave us some background on Fannie Lou Hamer, she sounds like a remarkable person.
The picture that most folks have of Eastland is a caricature, a two-dimensional image that sees him only as the embodiment of racist evil. He certainly was racist — proudly and profoundly so — and I have no interest in discounting that. But to understand him we also have to see him as more than just a racist. He was fundamentally a planter, and the economic perspective that came from being a planter helps explain his vehement anti-Communism — which was not simply a facade for racism. He also was the father of four children (three girls) and a family man who lived with and across the street from both his parents and his in-laws. His passion to protect his family from the perceived evils of segregation helps explain why he took the Brown decision so personally.
He also was prescient on a number of issues, most notably school segregation. From the beginning, he insisted that no white Americans, Northern or Southern, would accept what he and the white folks of Sunflower County were being forced to accept, i.e, being a minority in the public school system. Northerners would respond in the same way, he argued, by fleeing to private schools. The last quarter of the twentieth century proved him right. Whites, North or South, have abandoned the public school systems everywhere that blacks constitute a significant portion of the population.
Welcome to FDL, Mr. Asch,
How does Eastland compare to the most famous cartoon-like racist of the 20th century in the Senate, Mississippi’s own Theodore Bilbo?
So many comments!
Why don’t blacks keep up the fight in Sunflower County? Many do, but it is difficult. The civil rights movement opened up many opportunities for talented, ambitious blacks, and many of them have left places like Sunflower County to pursue those opportunities. That leaves a void, particularly in small towns like Sunflower and Ruleville. There also is a “plantation mentality” that lingers from the plantation experience. Among whites, this mentality encourages a sense of superiority and control. Among blacks, it discourages personal initiative in favor of deference and dependence. Effecting change is hard.
Bilbo and Eastland hated each other — they were on opposite sides of the Great Divide in MS politics: Hills vs. Delta. All white politicians agreed on race, so they both were white supremacists, but they had different economic perspectives. Bilbo was a man of the Hills, an economic liberal, a fan of the New Deal. Eastland was a planter, an economic conservative, an avowed opponent of what he considered socialistic government programs such as the New Deal. Eastland also learned to tame his racism in public.
He also was prescient on a number of issues, most notably school segregation.
To misquote McGyver, I hate it when this guy’s right.
Mrs. Hamer was indeed a remarkable person. The last of 20 children, she grew up on a plantation near Ruleville, about 5 miles from the Eastland plantation. For most of her life, she was a sharecropper who worked from “sunup to sundown” six days a week, just as her parents had. Her only outlet was church — she was a fundamentalist Christian who identified with the Israelites of the Old Testament. She became well known in her community for her singing voice, which she used to great effect after she became involved in the civil rights movement in 1962.
And FWIW, I didn’t mean to imply that African Americans in Sunflower aren’t still active in standing up for their rights — witness the unrest related to having a black school superintendent — but it’s clear that they’re also arrayed against entrenched beliefs regarding race that seem only to have hardened over time. And that has to be difficult.
It sounds as though things there have reached a sad state of equilibrium.
Yeah, I hate it too. Unfortunately, when you look around the country you see that wealthy people (of all colors) use their money to do what white supremacy did for folks like Eastland: protect their privileged positions in society by protecting them from the lower (and inferior) classes — hence the proliferation of private schools, gated communities, separate municipal districts, etc.
“A sad state of equilibrium” is an apt way to describe current conditions, though I will say that life in Sunflower County is not all hardship and drudgery. I lived there for 8+ years, and I loved it — the people are friendly and welcoming, the kids are rambunctious and fun, the food is fantastic.
Chris, may I ask where you’re living now? And how does it compare, in terms of the racial landscape, to Sunflower?
Welcome, Chris, so good to have you here today.
It’s quite a remarkable environment to be releasing this book in — can you tell us how the current political environment has affected the way the book is being perceived, if indeed it has?
I now live back in my hometown of Washington, DC, where I attended public schools back in the day. In Sunflower, there was a grassy strip (where the railroad used to run) that separated the “white folks’ part” from the “black folks’ part.” In DC, we call that strip Rock Creek Park. Things have changed a great deal since I was growing up, however — there are more and more whites living east of the park and blacks living west — but the divide is still there. The key place to look is in the schools. Most whites and upper-class blacks send their kids to private schools, while the public schools are overwhelmingly black. Mayor Fenty and his school superintendent are working to improve the schools to make them attractive to all families, but that is a long and difficult project. I tip my hat to them for their efforts thus far — we need that kind of leadership.
Chris, do you think someone like Fannie Mae Hamer would be able to affect change in this nation today?
Sorry I’m coming late to this discussion. You said:
This certainly couldn’t be more true in Savannah. There were never riots here, and “desegregation” proceeded probably more calmly than most places in the deep South. However, there was an explosion of both secular and religious private schools, which vacuumed the whites and their support out of the public school system. It has never recovered. Earlier today we had as a guest State Sen. Regina Thomas who is passionate about improving public education. It’s tragic that it’s still such an uphill battle.
The book was just released a couple of weeks ago, so there hasn’t been too much comment yet. What I have noticed, not surprisingly perhaps, is that people tend to try to use it to score political points in whatever arguments they are having. At one recent talk in DC, for example, the first question was about reparations — an issue that has little resonance in a place like Sunflower County. Part of my point in writing the book is that it can be very difficult to make black-and-white judgments, even about someone as clearly racist as Eastland. To try to pin all that is wrong in Sunflower County today on the Eastlands of the world misses a big part of the picture — namely, economics.
Many people are interested in how Hamer and Eastland would respond to Barack Obama’s candidacy — something that Hamer could scarcely have envisioned being possible.
Could Fannie Lou Hamer effect change today? She was extraordinary and would have been so in any context, but I think she would have difficulty in being heard in today’s environment. For one thing, since the civil rights movement we as a culture have become accustomed to seeing marches and protests and sit-ins, so those kinds of demonstrations have lost much of their “shock” value. For another thing, the costs of participation in the political process have skyrocketed. It can be very difficult to get media attention and legislators’ attention without money to fund a PR campaign, lobbyists, and the like. I have found this to be frustratingly true in my current work to build a U.S. Public Service Academy.
Speaking of Sen. Obama, I was very impressed with his speech following the Jeremiah Wright revelations. He displayed an understanding of what it’s like to be both white and black in the US – not terribly surprising given his background. Do you think his candidacy and the discussions about race it’s engendered will have an effect on the white folks in places like Sunflower?
The difficulty with the rise of the religious and secular private schools is that the schools now have become community institutions. Most of them, even in Sunflower County, have token integration, and now they can claim to have no racial animus. That makes them more difficult to uproot. There was a window of opportunity back in the early 1970s — an opportunity for community leaders to work together to fashion a strong, integrated school system. Sadly, too many leaders (such as Eastland) chose to appeal to the lesser angels of our nature. Now we’re stuck with that legacy.
Hi Chris,
Do you mention the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party in the book? And what they went through?
Given her intelligence and tenacity I would assume that if Ms. Hamer were starting out today she would find the “internets toobz” a powerful tool.
Please tell us a bit more about your work on a US Public Service Academy. Am I correct in assuming it would be a place where folks could go and learn how to be an effective (non-partisan?) public servant? Man — do we ever need one!
I too was impressed with Sen. Obama’s speech on race, and I think it can and does have an appeal to a younger generation of whites in Sunflower County and elsewhere. You have to remember that people growing up in the 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s grew up in a culture of white supremacy that was all consuming. Those folks didn’t disappear — they are in their 50s, 60s, and 70s today. They are voters and community leaders. A good many of them have changed, and some may even welcome the opportunity to vote for a talented black man who does not make racial victimization central to his message. It may be harder for others to take that step.
Mrs. Hamer was heavily involved in the founding of the MFDP, so I do discuss it in the book. The MFDP helped upend the traditional one-party state of MS — now the Democratic Party there is fully integrated and has elected more black officials than any other state. Of course, it also revived the Republican party, which now dominates state politics.
The U.S. Public Service Academy would be the civilian counterpart to the military academies — a federally-funded, four-year college where students would get a free education in return for a mandatory commitment to serve for five years in the civilian public sector. We have a bill in Congress with 19 senators and 96 representatives signed on as co-sponsors, and we are working to get Sen. Obama and Sen. McCain to embrace the idea. You may learn more here:
http://www.uspublicserviceacademy.org
Absolutely. At this point it’s an economic/social bright line here. And those in power seem to do everything that they can to maintain what is effectively an underclass of any and all races.
Someone asked earlier about members of the Supreme Court who were nominated during Eastland’s time on the Judiciary Committee. Only one member remains: John Paul Stevens, who has turned out to be a fair bit more liberal that either Eastland or President Ford expected. Upon retiring, Eastland claimed that undoing the Warren Court, particularly by helping to get Rehnquist appointed, was his most lasting achievement.
Oh, wow! What a terrific idea. This would appear to be something that the folks at FDL would get behind and push with all our strength. What a wonderful opportunity that would be for young people who want to serve the country (I REFUSE to use that other word, you know, the “H” word) but who don’t want to join the military. Folks, we’ve got to spread the word on this.
We certainly need all the help we can get! We’ve come pretty far despite having no money, no PR firm, and no lobbyists — all of which the “experts” said we needed. If folks are interested in getting involved, contact me.
Mr. Asch, this book is now at the top of my wish list – I am looking forward to reading it even more now. Thank you for coming here today to share what you have learned writing the book with us readers.
I appreciate that, Suzanne. This is my first online book chat, and it’s fun! The questions are great!
I’m glad that you enjoyed living in Mississippi. Haven’t lived there since the 50s but I do miss the food. I think things are changing there – very slowly but hopefully for the the better. Thanks for being here today with us.
Times are changing, indeed. People interact in small-town Mississippi in ways that are more personal and genuine than much of what happens in urban areas. There are problems, no doubt, but there also is hope.
You seem like a natural here, sir. The interaction FDL provides between author and reader makes the Book Salons wreck havoc on my book budget – and I’m sure I’m not the only one who buys books based on the author’s interactions here in the comments.
Do you think racism will always be with us or will we as a nation be able to overcome?
That is an excellent idea. Can you let us know when it’s time to lean on our congresscritters to get it passed?
May I second that motion, Chris. FDL is great at getting the public to speak up at critical times, especially when legislation is either in need of support or in need of being blocked. Let us know when and how we can help.
Will we ever be able to overcome racism? I’m not a philosopher or a psychologist, so I don’t really know about how we get rid of it internally, but I do think we can limit its societal effects and create conditions that make racism harder for children to learn. One thing that white folks in the pre-civil rights South understood (though they never said it): keeping one race subordinate is hard work because it runs against our instincts as human beings and our professed values as a nation. Eastland and his ilk had to vigilantly maintain their segregated institutions because they feared that any kind of integration and egalitarian interaction would lead people, based on their experience, to reject racism. So I think we can and must work to create integrated institutions and offer fully equal opportunities.
At what stage is your academy planning now?
I certainly can let folks know when we need to lean on Congress. Right now, we have a 2009 strategy — we won’t move on it this year because we want the next president to take it up early in the first term. What the Peace Corps was to JFK, the Public Service Academy can be for the next president — a national institution that appeals the the idealism of a younger generation and channels that energy into civilian public service.
I was born (1943) and raised in DC. I went to integrated public schools, lived in an integrated apartment building and played with white and black kids. Lived on Columbia Road, just down the street from the Ontario Theatre. My stepfather owned a deli across the street where JFK and/or Jackie often came. Moved to Alexandria after the 3rd grade. Totally different world.
We have developed a Draft Blueprint that can be downloaded on our website (http://www.uspublicserviceacademy.org — click on the Blueprint tab on the left menu). This outlines the basic structure of the Academy, its approach to recruitment and admissions, its plans for curriculum and placement, and so forth. We are now working on a more detailed Blueprint.
I love the Columbia Road/Mount Pleasant area — I used to play for a community baseball team called the Mount Pleasant Braves. I wonder if kids growing up in your old neighborhood today would have the same integrated experience that you have.
Man, this discussion has raised memories. I attended an integrated elementary school where we literally grew up together from kindergarten to 6th grade, with no sense of any racial divide. The Junior High however was having money problems and after 6th grade all the middle class white kids got yanked out and put into private schools.
Two years later we were all reunited at the public High School, and it was like our destinies were set. The white kids were put in AP classes, the black kids in remedial. After the first few weeks of saying “hi” to each other, we ended up drifting off to separate areas, separate life tracks. It still brings a pit to my stomach.
I blame the Book Salon for the pile of books that seems to grow of its own volition every time I turn around.
I will have to live to be 100 in order to catch up. Just can’t seem to get ahead.
Look at it this way – you have something else to live for.
I keep telling myself the stack will quit growing if I quit buying. Can’t seem to break the habit. Must. Buy. This. Book. Arrrrggggh.
Ahem, just be sure to put The Senator and the Sharecropper at the top of the pile… : )
I hope this happens! Thank you so much for your book, and for taking time here with us to discuss it.
If we can show that the Public Service Academy is a political winner, then we can get the politicians on board. Most of them won’t sign on unless they think it’s in their political interest. Our job, of course, is to make the case that they’ll be committing political suicide to oppose it.
I’m thankful that I can read 4 or 5 at a time. Takes longer to get each one read but it’s like doing the reading assignments for class. And if there’s a particularly good book I don’t finish it too fast. And I have a habit of waiting a while and then rereading them. Always miss something the first time through.
You are precisely the kind of reader that I hope will pick up this book!
I’m always amazed at how much I learn whenever I re-read a good book.
Chris, I have to go tend family duties now, but feel free to hang out and answer questions as long as you like. (Another post is going up shortly.) We’ve really enjoyed having you here today. It’s been a genuinely worthwhile discussion.
From the Four Years At A Glance table:
I hope the lack of specifics in the last bullet point isn’t an indication that there’s been no thought put into this. Public officials have displayed a distressing lack of knowledge in this area. Hopefully, a PSA will try to correct that.
My local indy bookseller knows me by name. “And what would you like to order today?” Mostly used books and their “new” current affairs section is nothing like B&N or Borders but I’d rather wait a few days than give the chains my money. They’re closed until Tuesday but I’m not goin’ anywhere.
Chris, thanks so much for joining us today – I can’t wait to read your book!
(and David, YGM)
You’re right — it can be scary how many public officials manifest their basic ignorance and “innumeracy.” You read the original proposal, as opposed to our Blueprint (I know, it’s confusing). The Blueprint is about 55 pages long and can be downloaded by clicking on the “Draft Blueprint” tab on the left. We still have a long way to go in terms of fleshing out the curriculum.
Thank you, David, and the rest of the FDL readers. This has been great! If you want to contact me directly about the book or about the Public Service Academy, my email is: asch “at” uspublicserviceacademy.org
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Thank you, Chris. It’s always a pleasure to interact with those who have a heartfelt desire to make change on our flawed little rock. Peace.
Ian’s upstairs
Yes, it is confusing. The PDF I’m reading is named “USPSA_BlueprintDraft0507.pdf”. I’ll look around for the new one.
No, on second thought, that is the PDF you’re referring to. I’m not using Adobe to read it. Perhaps it’s a formatting or font issue…
“Our flawed little rock” — I may have to steal that line.
I’d be honoured.
I have to run. Thanks everyone!
Chris
Thanks for stopping by and chatting, Chris.